: Clucking door hinges



2000ForrestGrnCatty
10-22-06, 08:41 PM
I have a 2000 Catera and my problems lie with the door hinges. Every time
I open and close the door, it sounds like someone getting shot. Is this a known problem with these cars, and it it covered under warranty? My car is way out of warranty, but just wondering. The driver's side is worse than the passenger side btw. Thx.

2000ForrestGrnCatty
10-23-06, 04:08 AM
Anyone? Please?

Resilient
10-23-06, 12:27 PM
Discussed previously... see

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-catera-cimarron-forum/67301-door-hinge-2.html?highlight=door+hinge

Warez
10-23-06, 05:09 PM
You need new door hinge bushings. Very simple fix and they each cost about ~$2 per side from the dealer.

I did this fix a few months ago, it only took ~5-10 min per door.

Warez
10-23-06, 05:23 PM
Discussed previously... see

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-catera-cimarron-forum/67301-door-hinge-2.html?highlight=door+hinge

That link is not very useful, you only need the bushings, not the whole door spring assembly.

guardian
10-23-06, 09:43 PM
. . . . Is this a known problem with these cars, and is it covered under warranty? . . . . . .

Yes and yes. Many owners experience this problem. Mostly it expresses itself after warranty expiration.

You know, like the problem with the ignition switch.

In my opinion both these issues should have been addressed by a recall. Or at least Cadillac should have taken responsibility in some manner.

It never happened.

Resilient
10-24-06, 06:05 PM
That link is not very useful, you only need the bushings, not the whole door spring assembly.Nope the bushings MAY help... but if the welds ahve started to break... no plastic bushing will fix it.

You may not have found the link useful but for the rest of us who where in it... it was.... since it actually had all the information on a GM known problem, fix, TSB number, kit and details... I don't recall seeing your 2$ bushing solution??? then again I don't see a 2$ bushing fixing the cracked weld and weak steel plate, oh well.

Warez
10-24-06, 07:44 PM
I assumed if broken welds were the issue it would have been clearly visible to the poster and he would have mentioned it.

As I said, I as well a my friend who also owns a Catera both had the very same issue, a very loud snaping noise on both doors. Replacing the bushings completely fixed the issue and even the door movement is much smoother now.

I will post the part number and a picture of the bushing.

Warez
10-24-06, 08:01 PM
This is what you need. I can't find the invoice with the part number but the dealer will be able to locate if for you no problem.

Warez
10-24-06, 08:14 PM
You may not have found the link useful but for the rest of us who where in it... it was.... since it actually had all the information on a GM known problem, fix, TSB number, kit and details... I don't recall seeing your 2$ bushing solution??? then again I don't see a 2$ bushing fixing the cracked weld and weak steel plate, oh well.

This bushing wearing is the source of the whole problem.

The inner bushing hole gradually wears and thus the spring-arm to door bolt clearance becomes too loose (this is the loud noise you hear) thus causing deflection on the bracket that is welded to the door jam each time the door is opened and closed.

If not replaced the hole will wear more and more which only exacerbates the deflection on the welded bracket and eventually it will break off causing what was initially a $2 and 10 min fix to become a huge headache!

Resilient
10-25-06, 07:13 AM
Broken welds is the description and details from the TSB... BTW the broken weld are not visible it's inside the door itself, the T bracket holding the door arm, anyway... you can argue and 'discuss' this with someone else...

The link was to the previous discussion on the topic...

and Like I said:
2$ bushing is worth a shot... before getting the door hinge kit from GM...

Warez
10-25-06, 03:43 PM
Unfortunately I don't think that there ever was a TSB or Recall for this issue. I searched several sites and found nothing.

http://www.edmunds.com/maintenance/recalltsb.do?step=tsb&year=2000&make=Cadillac&model=Catera&style=4+Dr+STD+Sedan&zip=90210&synpartner=edmunds#16

Did your spring assembly also break off?

guardian
10-26-06, 06:02 PM
. . . . . I don't think that there ever was a . . . . . Recall for this issue. I searched several sites and found nothing.

Take it to the bank. There NEVER was a recall on this issue; should have been. It did not happen.:stirpot:

Re a TSB: am not sure.:confused:

Resilient
10-26-06, 06:33 PM
well Warez had the best link way back actually...

http://www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread.php?t=83255

Covers both the repair kit approach (for metal plates) and the bushings...

This thread did (and several of us saw) the tech bul.
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-catera-cimarron-forum/67301-door-hinge.html?highlight=door+hinge

A-Ha found it:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-catera-cimarron-forum/42204-door-catch-broke-should-i-say.html?highlight=door+hinge

Resilient
10-26-06, 06:42 PM
Also found this:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I2E812E0E

(redirected the link, for some reason if I link directly to it it doesn't go where it says it's supposed to go)

Warez
10-26-06, 07:56 PM
Also found this:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/recalls-and-tsbs/browse.htm

I see it reads TSB's and recalls in the hyperlink but when I click on it nothing is displayed.

guardian
10-27-06, 03:06 PM
Also found this:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I2E812E0E

(redirected the link, for some reason if I link directly to it it doesn't go where it says it's supposed to go)

Thanks.

That one works and does lead to a long list of ALL the Caddy recalls.

But strangely, no recalls at all are listed for the Catera. At least I am unable to find one. I know Catera had a recall. But I do not see that one mentioned.

Is it possible Cadillac has decided to disavow the Catera? Perhaps they now wish it never had existed.

Or have they, after due consideration of course, concluded Opel should take back ownership of the marque?

guardian
10-27-06, 03:19 PM
Oh, OK, sorry. I got it now. Earlier post was me suffering from brain fade:

Only the SAFETY-RELATED Caddy recalls are listed.

Catera never had a _safety-related_ recall.

Right.

When you're shooting down the freeway at 70 mph in traffic and your timing belt breaks and you lose the engine and all power without warning . . . . . relax . . . . . you are safe as a baby at home in his cradle.

kwavruk
12-02-06, 06:53 PM
I have seen the replys to this hinge problem. My question is, has anyone priced the repair to the ripped metal. And should this repair be done at a dealer or any garage? Any reply would be appreciated.

Resilient
12-05-06, 11:32 AM
Caddy dealership body shop (2 here in the area)... both quote around 800$ CAD... for one door... can you say "crooks"...

Use a reputable body shop, it ain't that hard to do.