This word Doc shows my wiring I used to hook up the XM Direct Box in my 2002 Seville.

I'm going to stick this one for a while.

Thanks for posting! Looks good!

I spliced into these wires so that I could use the CD Changer as an AUX input. However, I did not cut the wires, I only tapped into them.

As a result, the CD in the changer plays as well as my AUX input. Is the only way to get this to work is to actually cut these wires?

Thanks,
Todd

Hey Todd, what wires did you tap into to get it to recognize an CD-changer? Did you leave the CD changer plugged in? I bought the P.I.E GM10-AUX and they say it won't work on an '01 STS but obviously there is a way. I tried to mess around with it but ended up blowing the radio fuse.

To Clarify The wiring on the PDF it is as follows.

The kleft side is the factory 10 pin plug and the right side is the XM direct Plug.

Pin #
1->10
2->4
3->5
7->3
9->1

Then connect the XM Direct box power in pin 1 to a switched source in the car.

where is the factory xm tuner located. im trying to install ipod intagation made by peripheral.it says in manual that on 2003 - 2005 seville and other caddys you have to disable factory a/v devices or it wont work.i have a 2003 sts no nav .its a pxdp.it connects to the factory cd changer plug.any help please

I've got an 02 and I see the button on my radio for satalite. Can I use the SIRIUS SIR-GM1? Crutchfield says it is for 2003 and newer only but I am hoping they are wrong.

I'm using the SIR-GM1 in my 2001 Seville with the 2002 factory Navigation head unit and it works fine. The XM1/2 button automatically showed up once everything was connected.

I ended up getting it working in my non-nav head unit. I am going to make an install how-to some time soon.

Yeah, basically every wire that is needed is in the CD Changer connector. That is, if you have a 2002-2004 Seville...

Hi, I posted in the seville area but I guesss this is a better place. I just bought a 2002 STS and it has non-navigation HU with cd, cassette, and changer. The band button gives me FM1, FM2, AM, and weather options. I would like to ad XM but only if I can do it "stock". I don't want to add any extra displays. Is this reasonably simple? Also I want to add a bluetooth phone adaptor. What sucess has anyone had with it.

there should be a button on the lower right i forget what it says right now to be honest and when you push it it will say no satellite radio. you can buy a tuner online that will be plug and play thought unlike what this guy did, it says for deville but will work for a seville also

http://cgi.ebay.com/XM-DIRECT-CADILLAC-DEVILLE-2003-2006_W0QQitemZ170102791506QQihZ007QQcategoryZ71534 QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

a tad expensive imho but it is the ONLY way other then the way listed in here previously to install XM and use it on the factory radio...

Yeamish, you sent me a PM but I cannot reply until I have a bunch of posts, so I will reply here and hopefully you will see it.

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Does the station selection button on your steering wheel work with the SIR-GM1? My programming buttons do but the wheel does not. I only used Pin 9 (data) in the car to interface with the unit but I'm not sure if I need to be using 10 as well to make it work.
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The station selection button on my wheel (SEL up / down) half works right. When I push it up, it goes through the presets. When I push it down, it does nothing.

Hi, I posted in the seville area but I guess this is a better place. I just bought a 2002 STS and it has non-navigation HU with cd, cassette, and changer. The band button gives me FM1, FM2, AM, and weather options. I would like to ad XM but only if I can do it "stock". I don't want to add any extra displays. Is this reasonably simple? Also I want to add a bluetooth phone adapter. What success has anyone had with it.

I swapped my non-nav head unit back in to test out the SIR-GM1 Sirius factory compatible receiver I had just installed. Before the SIR-GM1 was installed, I would cycle through all bands and get the same results you got (AM/FM/WX). I was never able to get the "no satellite radio" message CadillacSTS2003 and others spoke about to show up. But, once I installed the SIR-GM1 the additional SAT band automatically showed up when cycling through the available bands. The same thing happened with my nav head unit...no SAT band or mention of it until the unit was installed.

As for adding factory XM, the only option at this point was previously mentioned (XM Direct unit). The cheapest I could find that box was like $150 shipped on Ebay. Another option is to buy a factory new XM receiver from GM and install that, but from what I understand those can be hard to obtain. The used factory XM receivers are coded to the car and once that is done, they CANNOT be moved to any other car. I bought a used one on Ebay for $1 to throughly test this theory out...and I'm going to see if there is some way to "clear" the used receiver of this coding. We will see...

Personally, I think the security measures GM has taken with these XM receivers are completely out of line. I would imagine that from a theft standpoint, the factory head units are easier to remove, easier to re-program and easier to sell than the factory XM receiver. On top of it all, you still need to pay a subscription fee to XM if you did happen to get a "hot" one. And as soon as you gave XM the radio code, they would know it's stolen. Maybe there are other reasons to make these factory XM receivers "one time use" only, but I can't seem to think of one.

I'm pissed, the select button doesn't do a damn this with the SIR-GM1. I guess I will try and change the pins around a bit, I may be using the wrong data pins.

From what I could tell, the SIR-GM1 has a data pin in, and a data pin out. If you can control the SIR-GM1 from your radio, you've got the data pin(s) right. All that unit needs is 12V, GND, DATA, AUDIO LEFT, AUDIO RIGHT, and AUDIO GND.

Besides, it's not like you are missing much. The SEL button only scrolls through the presets on my car...just like it does with the AM and FM bands. All I really lost was the up/down method of going through presets (I can only go up through the presets now).

Does it function differently on other cars?

Do you have the data in and the data out both connected? I only have one data pin connected, the other didn't do anything. Maybe the other did something but I just need to change where they are going.

No, I am only using one. They are both connected internally, so there is no need to connect both of them. I figure that their intended use is for when you are using the pass-through cable (that little 12-pin Y-harness). That way, they don't have to splice two wires together.

Per the Specs of the SIR-GM1 it only supports the Up function on the steering whhel.

Also I had the TERK XM Direct unit and switched it out to the SIR GM1. Funny thing is both boxes are made from a different manufactor but the wiring and plug are the same.

Just as an FYI the SIR-GM1 functions and sounds better than the Terk XM unit.

eclipse, thanks to going to all that trouble, but it sure is nice to know. I'm bidding on a sirus gm-1 unit on ebay. If I get out bid, I'll just bid on the next one. Eventually I'll get one for what I want to pay. Sounds like the sirus is prefered by most people for programing also.

Just won the sirus unit on ebay and should have in a few days. I gues I'm a little confused because I have been reading so many different ideas about this. Just to confirm before I get into the install, the unit plugs in where the CD changer plugs in. I am assuming there are enough empty pin locations in the connector to have the sirus and the changer both pluged in. That's where all the directions have me confused. Does anyone have a diagram or directions for where all the wires go from both the sirus and the cd changer.

Just won the sirus unit on ebay and should have in a few days. I gues I'm a little confused because I have been reading so many different ideas about this. Just to confirm before I get into the install, the unit plugs in where the CD changer plugs in. I am assuming there are enough empty pin locations in the connector to have the sirus and the changer both pluged in. That's where all the directions have me confused. Does anyone have a diagram or directions for where all the wires go from both the sirus and the cd changer.

Actually, you will be "tapping into" the wiring that goes to the changer. I suggest solidering and taping the connections. What year and model car Seville do you have? If it's 2002 and up all of the wires you need are in that harness.

its a 2002 sts. I guess that is where I'm confused. The cd player and the siruse unit conect to the same wires in the car harness and it still recognises which one you want to play?

Both units tie in on the same wires. The sound is controlled through the source selector.

so just leave the changer as is and attach the sirus to the apprpriate wires as described in the original post, wireing diagram.

Just won the sirus unit on ebay and should have in a few days. I gues I'm a little confused because I have been reading so many different ideas about this. Just to confirm before I get into the install, the unit plugs in where the CD changer plugs in. I am assuming there are enough empty pin locations in the connector to have the sirus and the changer both pluged in. That's where all the directions have me confused. Does anyone have a diagram or directions for where all the wires go from both the sirus and the cd changer.

If you look in the Video and Security section of this site, I did a post on how to install it.

Thanks, i've seen your install. I'm just not sure because your install does not include the changer. I have one in my car.

Did you ever solve the switched power issue you were having?? I read you asking about it in your PDF file.

If not, here's the answer: Fuse #2 in the Underhood fusebox, is marked Accessory.(at least on my 2000 SLS) your mileage may vary, but there should be one there.. It behaves the exact way the radio does. I.e. turns on off with the key etc, plus stays on until you open a door to exit etc.

If you use a fuse tap, and run a wire into the car, you now have a source for accessory switched power, so whenever the radio is on, your xm will be on as well.

Take care,

George

FYI, I bought a T harness from Radiosandmore.com that plugs right in to the changer harness and has the SIR-GM1 plug on it. It should work with or without a changer.

I tried it without the changer and it doesn't work.

Aw crap. I didn'r do my install yet. Guess I'll tap in like you did.

Yaemish, I installed my nav with harness from Jason and used the T harness that I got from radiosandmore.com and it worked perfectly. Being that I have an 01 DTS, I had to run a Class 2 data line to pin 10 of the changer harness.

So its time for me to take on this upgrade/mod since i havent done one ina while i thought id give it a go.
However, ive searched for the XM GM100 on ebay and cant get anything.
I search for it online and i get this-
http://store.xmfanstore.com/xmdirect.html
or
http://www.autotoys.com/x/product.php?productid=6105
Is this what i need to add factory xm to my 02 dev with cd changer and nav?

On ebay, i type in xm deville and this one pops up. It looks like the two form above but theres TOO much price DIFF. Is it the same?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=370023352573

I also searched for Gm xm into ebay and this came up. Is it one of these i need instead?
I saw various of these on ebay for diff years of gm and models but they look the same. Dont know if this is what i need.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=330259116856 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&viewitem=&item=330259116856)

Thanks for the help.

need the terk box regardless of anything

thanks just saw your 1st pm.
ill contact you on pm

post is better that way others can learn...

post is better that way others can learn...


Youre right. Here it is.

-Are these the same to the one on ebay but without the changer harness?
The price is what i like about them.
http://store.xmfanstore.com/xmdirect.html
or
http://www.autotoys.com/x/product.php?productid=6105

Do i REALLY NEED to keep the changer for the xm mod to work?
I can do w/out it.
I dont really use the changer since i use the zune to aux mod.
I would hate to pay $155 extra for the CD changer harness if i dont really need it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/XM-DIRECT-CADILL...2em118Q2el1247 (http://cgi.ebay.com/XM-DIRECT-CADILLAC-DEVILLE-2003-2005_W0QQitemZ370023352573QQihZ024QQcategoryZ71534 QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp16 38Q2em118Q2el1247)[/i]

has a specially modified cable to plug inline with the stock cd changer to get xm and keep the changer



Hay bro what is up?
been a while since i asked you for help/advice but its that time again.

Is this what i need to add factory xm to my 02 dev with cd changer and nav?
http://store.xmfanstore.com/xmdirect.html
or
http://www.autotoys.com/x/product.php?productid=6105

This one looks like the two form above but TOO much price DIFF. Is it the same?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=370023352573 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=370023352573)

If not, which one of these?
I saw various of these on ebay for diff years of gm and models but they look the same. Dont know if this is what i need.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=330259116856 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&viewitem=&item=330259116856)

Thanks for the help.

no
you splice into the changer at the harness for the data class wires to recognize the xm unit on the radio and the audio wires to the radio

So its a must to buy the ebay $255 unit huh.
Only for that harness?
Cant i just do my own tapping/splicing w/out needing the plug n' play harness?
Sure it might be a bit more work but the instructions on the thread dont seem difficult and i can save myself some money.
Unless theyre totally diff and seperate products then i pay the 300 bills.

you could make the harness
but idk whats included with the terk box your buying if it can be made to splice into the changer harness or not
i dont have xm and have no desire to pay 240 bucks a year so i can listen to the radio

I dont wanna pay anything for radio....just like sat/cable tv, either. "Commercial free"? Ya right!
But i do gotta say that having some sort of sat radio may increase and broaden my taste for music and maybe expose me to something that i would have never listened to otherwise.
Since xm & sirius have now combined forces and channels....what they offer has definitley increased.
Plus, it can be un upgrade that i can use as a selling point when the car leaves me for another owner.
That coupled with rbd's bluetooth, sts2003's aux input and other mods can definitely return me something.
No?

it could
but only if the buyer is interested...
if you want to do a mod to do a mod do something worth while like a corsa or volant or jl9 brake upgrade

ya i know...
Corsa- Is a coming attraction, for sure.
Volant- i heard CAI is a hit or miss and not worth it. True?
ive heard alot on here and other places about it. What exactly does cai do anyway?
JL9- Ive been wanting to do this upgrade. Is this the one from the lucerne? Ive been looking for that thread. if you have it can you supply the thread.

If you look in the Video and Security section of this site, I did a post on how to install it.

New to the site as I recently purchased an 02 SLS. Been reading all of these posts, including the separate install thread from Yaemish (which is very informative). Before I buy the SIR-GM1 and harness adapter and attempt to begin the install, I have a few questions that hopefully someone more knowledgeable than I will be kind enough to answer:

1) My 02 SLS stock radio has the AM/FM/WX bands. I am unable to get the "no satellite radio" message--when I push the 'PTY' button, nothing happens. Does this mean my stock radio did not come sat-ready? My owner's manual references XM, although with the discalimer "If Equipped." (Edmunds says provisions for sat radio for SLS/STS were made late in 2002 and my vehicle was produced Dec 01.)

Assuming my SLS is sat-ready:
2) I have a CD changer. To confirm, must the CD changer be permanently removed in order to install the SIR-GM1 and harness adapter?

3) I have an existing Sirius subscription. What are the logistics of transferring the subscription from my old unit (Sportster 4) to this 'new' one? Does the SIR-GM1 come with its own unit number that must be provided to Sirius in order to activate service? (I believe the subscription is specific to the unit?)

4) If install is successful, is radio capable of displaying artist, song title, information?


Any information is much appreciated.

1- I dunno
2- changer must stay pluged in and functional.
3-Just call sirius/xm and give them the serial number etc... of the new receiver and theyll hook you up + service charge for adding extra/new unit
4-If your stock radio already has rds...then you will b eable to see station info....etc...

Will this work with a 2001 stock head unit?

it should if have a stock cd changer and radio with rds...

Yes, it is the Bose head unit with RDS.

no
wont work
upgrade to an 02+ unit and run a purple data class wire down from the radio to the changer port and it will

To clairfy, I am looking to tie a Sirius unit into my 2001 Bose head unit. Will that work? If not, how can I hard wire into the diversity antenna?

If I have no options for the 2001 radio, what is a good going rate for the 2002 unit and where is the best place to find them?