: D3 Pics



lagier
08-30-06, 06:53 PM
Okay Mr. Moderator. No he said she said here. Just pics.

Let's see if this post gets closed or deleted and if cadillac owners has a hidden agenda with their vendor.

IMO... your customers deserve this info.

http://home.comcast.net/~lagier/D3_Cadillac_2.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~lagier/Cadillac_D3_001.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~lagier/Cadillac_D3_004.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~lagier/Cadillac_D3_005.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~lagier/Cadillac_D3_010.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~lagier/Cadillac_D3_011.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~lagier/invoice_from_D3.jpg

Lord Cadillac
08-30-06, 06:59 PM
No agenda. I'm just not crazy about people posting things that the "vendor said on the phone" (especially when we're talking about threats) when we really have no proof that the vendor said them. Same goes vise verse. Just the facts, please. The bottom line is, I want what's fair for everyone. I think those who've been here long enough know that I have no trouble paying for this place out of my own pocket. If a vendor doesn't deserve to be here, no price is going to change my mind. I'm not going to risk the integrity of this forum, it's future and my reputation for any amount of money...

lagier
08-30-06, 07:01 PM
Okay, sounds fair to me.

CadillacSTS42005
08-30-06, 07:27 PM
wow... i could of made better with playdough...

Dr. Design
08-30-06, 07:30 PM
Hello,
Here are images of side skirts once they are completed. We had ours prepped and painted at a local Cadillac Dealership.
http://www.autoshoplinks.com/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_06641.jpg
http://www.autoshoplinks.com/gallery/data/500/medium/STS_Side_Profile.jpg
http://www.autoshoplinks.com/gallery/data/500/medium/STS_Vents_1.jpg
http://www.autoshoplinks.com/gallery/data/500/STS_Side_Skirt_small1.jpg

Thank you,

Dr. Design
08-30-06, 08:13 PM
Hello,
Just as an example I had one of the guys pull a fresh set off the shelves and snap some pictures.
http://www.autoshoplinks.com/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_0670.jpg
http://www.autoshoplinks.com/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_0671.jpg
http://www.autoshoplinks.com/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_0673.jpg
http://www.autoshoplinks.com/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_0674.jpg
We have to conform to Cadillac Dealership Bodyshops. They typically require or put aside 2 hours per part in prep time, regardless of where the part is coming from (including the factory). This is standard procedure for them. Our parts are well within that time frame. As with any finished product the prep time is the most important. We even had to explain to a few body shops in the past to take it easy on the sanding of the hard edges to ensure they don't remove the line accents. These images show the condition of the parts prior to shipping. Please let us know if there are any further questions.
Thank you,

Barak
08-30-06, 08:43 PM
Forums that are uninhibited by overzealous admins and moderators allow the free market to work its magic, and on a much faster scale. Vendors can quickly make a fortune or just as quickly go out of business with the aid of internet forums. Few other, if any, forms of advertising have this kind of power. A good internet forum allows its patrons to engage in open debate even if it is as petty as "he said, she said." Certainly, we should encourage that hard facts and evidence be brought to the table before making any decision, but by no means mandate it by threatening to close a thread in its absence.

I do not believe it is fair to the patrons of this forum that substandard vendors continue to survive thanks to censorship and artificial cease of debate. Arbiters of speech do little more than allow good vendors to maintain mediocrity and bad vendors maintain survival. In the end, the only one who wins are the bad vendors.

lagier
08-31-06, 12:45 AM
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-sts-forum-2005-beyond/82440-my-d3-experience-nut-shell.html

http://home.comcast.net/~lagier/D3_Cadillac_2.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~lagier/Cadillac_D3_001.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~lagier/Cadillac_D3_004.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~lagier/Cadillac_D3_005.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~lagier/Cadillac_D3_010.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~lagier/Cadillac_D3_011.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~lagier/invoice_from_D3.jpg

onephatguy
08-31-06, 06:11 AM
You were right, it looks like poor craftmanship. Oh, and that price is egg normous!!!

lagier
08-31-06, 11:38 AM
Here's my offer to D3.

A full refund on everything or...

I want to return and get a refund for the Giovanna wheels and the grill. As you can see, the wheels are still not right.

A 15% discount to apply towards my additional body shop fees.

I will then post a retraction and publicly let everyone know that D3 has made it right. I will not go to Cadillac Corporate.

I will post high quality pics of the final build for everyone to see.

Sound fair?

Time is running out because soon I will sign on the dotted line and take them to court.

Lord Cadillac
08-31-06, 12:21 PM
I do not believe it is fair to the patrons of this forum that substandard vendors continue to survive thanks to censorship and artificial cease of debate. Arbiters of speech do little more than allow good vendors to maintain mediocrity and bad vendors maintain survival. In the end, the only one who wins are the bad vendors.

Please send me a PM with a list of the vendors you feel are "substandard" and where they've been allowed to survive "thanks to censorship and artificial cease of debate". If you're insinuating that this particular debate has been ceased, than you've lost me because it's ongoing right now... I don't want to change the subject of this discussion so please PM me with your feelings in regards.

Thank you...

Jesda
08-31-06, 12:54 PM
Back on topic... those pictures are fantastic. This is the hotness that Bob Lutz took out of the STS!

lagier
09-01-06, 01:52 AM
Back on topic... those pictures are fantastic. This is the hotness that Bob Lutz took out of the STS!

Jesda, are you talking about mine or the "fresh set off the D3 shelves"?

I've been wondering why the hell mine are white. Is it a different material, primed or what? :confused:

I emailed James telling him to overnight the "fresh set"... no reply.

Oh, and D3's insinuating my body shop screwed up my side skirts by sanding them. They're insulting their audience's intelligence with that one.

3 1/2 months. I'm really starting to lose my patience now! :mad:

lagier
09-09-06, 09:07 PM
No agenda. I'm just not crazy about people posting things that the "vendor said on the phone" (especially when we're talking about threats) when we really have no proof that the vendor said them. Same goes vise verse. Just the facts, please. The bottom line is, I want what's fair for everyone. I think those who've been here long enough know that I have no trouble paying for this place out of my own pocket. If a vendor doesn't deserve to be here, no price is going to change my mind. I'm not going to risk the integrity of this forum, it's future and my reputation for any amount of money...

I really don't care if you ban me now. You are way off. There is NO reason you should have closed that "nut shell" thread. Now, it will just flow down the pages and pretty soon it will be unseen and forgotten getting mixed in a bunch of pages. Yeah... that's censorship alright!

You also deleted the "caddie girl" post about D3 when I called her bluff. I don't think she could have done it herself. I don't see a delete feature!

Correct me if I'm wrong... these supporting vendors pay you money for advertisements?

Let's see if you ban this.

No hidden agenda my ASS!

This is the last week and D3 should be getting my wheels back to me by Wednesday. Can't wait to see if I can actually drive my car out of the body shop this week!

Lord Cadillac
09-10-06, 11:42 AM
You are being temporarily banned for being disrespectful to me. I didn't personally delete or close any of the threads you're talking about. I'm not the only one who takes care of things around here. You can cool off for a week, take care of your issues with D3, and then come back here with a little more respect for me and my team.

Jesda
09-10-06, 01:24 PM
You also deleted the "caddie girl" post about D3 when called her bluff. I don't think she could have done it herself. I don't see a delete feature!

Correct me if I'm wrong... these supporting vendors pay you money for advertisements?

Let's see if you ban this.

No hidden agenda my ASS!

This is the last week and D3 should be getting my wheels back to me by Wednesday. Can't wait to see if I can actually drive my car out of the body shop this week!

She called you a liar and I thought that was inappropriate, so I removed the thread. I thought I was doing YOU a favor.

Take a valium.