View Full Version : My first track night is over (results)


Flyin-Ryan
08-08-06, 08:23 PM
Ok so I know there are things to consider:
Temp
Humidity
Barometer...

Im only talking about my track times here (although it was 91 out).

I ran 7 times, all pretty much the same. However they were better times than I thought. (my 3.6 is stock fyi)

I'll post my worst, best and middle runs...

1 run: worst
60' = 2.426
1/8 = 9.952
1/4 = 15.345 @ 90.14 mph

1 run: middle
60' = 2.230
1/8 = 9.807
1/4 = 15.223 @ 89.78 mph

1 run: Best
60' = 2.210
1/8 = 9.733
1/4 = 15.112 @ 90.55 mph

I am very happy with those times. I cant believe how close I was to 14.999. I think Robert can easily be in the mid to low 14's. I had major wheel hop on a couple of runs. Then i figured to not try to launch to hard. That helped alot. I beat my friends GTO every time in the 60'. I beat in the 1/4 a new style must GT (it was on the best run too). I beat GTIs and a civic vtec, it was tons of fun.

I cant wait to do some mods and go back. I know with an intake I would be in the 14's. I think I ran real well. Either way it was a blast. A couple of guys in some major cars came up to me and said congrats on the win against the stang. man that was a good moment. Im sure I have more to say but im starved and just wanted to get this post out there. :bouncy: :bouncy:

ChicagoCTS32
08-08-06, 08:25 PM
sweeeet. Post your times up on that dragtimes.com?

Flyin-Ryan
08-08-06, 08:32 PM
Good idea, i'll do that after fooood

05CTS
08-08-06, 09:36 PM
Not to bad. Do you have an auto or manual? What were you bringing the revs to? 15's are bad either for a heavier car. Looks like you 60 FT times got better. Keep it up and ou can put that car in the 14's.

Flyin-Ryan
08-08-06, 10:18 PM
Auto with sport mode on and traction off. I think you meant not bad for a heavy car.

Here is my full time slip for my best run.

R/T = .455
60' = 2.210
330 = 6.342
1/8 = 9.733
MPH = 73.02
1000 = 12.650
1/4 = 15.112
MPH = 90.55

05CTS
08-08-06, 10:34 PM
Yes not bad for a heavy car. At the light, hold the brake to the floor, bring your RPM's up to about the point to where your tires will break loose and hold it as the lights on the tree drop. When green drops release the brake and put it all the way down to the floor. Have fun.:thumbsup:

dkozloski
08-08-06, 11:23 PM
Get a line lock on that car. It ought to be good for a couple tenths by itself just from the clean starts.

Flyin-Ryan
08-08-06, 11:23 PM
Yeah thats what I thought too but thats when I had the most wheel hop. If the wheel hop coul dbe solved that would make a huge diff

2004CTS
08-09-06, 07:43 AM
Congrats, you represented us well. I just love that you beat a new body Buttstain/Rustang GT!! :bouncy: :bouncy:

Flyin-Ryan
08-09-06, 07:59 AM
Whats a line lock? And yeah that mustang race way funny. I was next to it the whole way thinking "is this going to happen?"

or and here is a picture...Racing Perspectives : GIR 2006-08-08 TUESDAY : BKD6-08-08_010 (http://www.racingperspectives.com/cgi-bin/store/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Bret_Kepner_Photos/Domestic_Body_Styles/GIR_2006-08-08_Tuesday&image=BKD6-08-08_010.jpg&img=&tt=&tfile=tn_BKD6-08-08_010.jpg)

RobertCTS
08-09-06, 08:04 AM
Yeah thats what I thought too but thats when I had the most wheel hop. If the wheel hop coul dbe solved that would make a huge diff

Raven,
Do a search on "Wheel Hop". I think the V guys came up with some solutions. One was a shock package from GM as I recall.

When you do the CAI think about installing it at the track and get before and after times. Thanks for the feedback!

AznPrydeRegalRyde
08-09-06, 08:14 AM
Whats a line lock? And yeah that mustang race way funny. I was next to it the whole way thinking "is this going to happen?"

or and here is a picture...Racing Perspectives : GIR 2006-08-08 TUESDAY : BKD6-08-08_010 (http://www.racingperspectives.com/cgi-bin/store/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Bret_Kepner_Photos/Domestic_Body_Styles/GIR_2006-08-08_Tuesday&image=BKD6-08-08_010.jpg&img=&tt=&tfile=tn_BKD6-08-08_010.jpg)A line lock really is just another name for a front brake. It allows you to lock the front brake and heat up the rear tires. It should help ya launch better too.

Flyin-Ryan
08-09-06, 08:17 AM
Installing the intake at the track is a good idea. I could run a couple of times, make the swap and then run a couple of more. shouldnt take more than an hour to install right?

ChicagoCTS32
08-09-06, 08:28 AM
Shouldn't take you more than 20 minutes to install/uninstall after you do it the first time.

Flyin-Ryan
08-09-06, 09:08 AM
does the computer need to learn the system? Or is it ready to go as soon as I start it up

ChicagoCTS32
08-09-06, 09:15 AM
should be ready to go. The computer adjusts itself every 50-100 miles... so you would have to drive around for an hour or more to see that benefit.

When ody and others did the great intake challenge, they dyno'ed before and after to measure immediate change in hp/tq.

jteolis
08-09-06, 09:28 AM
The wheelhop solution for the V was a replacement factory bushing in the rear end. It still didn't "fix" it, just lessen it. Remember the wheelhop comes cause these cars are designed to give us some perfromance while still giving good ride. The wheel hops cause there is a suspension on your CTS designed to absorb bad bumps, etc. If you were to remove wheel hop competely you'd have a very stiff, unforgiving ride in your car.

Its a give and take thing. Bushing and stiffer shocks would lessen your wheel hop.

nickc50310
08-09-06, 09:54 AM
Ive never encountered wheel hop even with my hardest launches. Do you have the sport package? Great job reppin us! Nice job beating the Rustang! I need to find a drag-strip around here. Anyone have any ideas of where I could look one up?

Caddy Man
08-09-06, 12:50 PM
I beat in the 1/4 a new style must GT (it was on the best run too).

The mustang driver probably did not know how to shift or you were racing a v6. The 05 Mustang GT does the 1/4 in 13.5 @ 103 mph. Thats cool how your CTS performed...but our cars are NOT fast by any means. Im not doubting you beat it...but there was probably more to it than that. No way our cars will beat a ligher car rated 300hp and 320 ft lbs or torque.

jteolis
08-09-06, 12:56 PM
The mustang driver probably did not know how to shift or you were racing a v6. The 05 Mustang GT does the 1/4 in 13.5 @ 103 mph. Thats cool how your CTS performed...but our cars are NOT fast by any means. Im not doubting you beat it...but there was probably more to it than that. No way our cars will beat a ligher car rated 300hp and 320 ft lbs or torque.

I've kept up with the OLDER GTs like pre 2000 stangs, but the newer ones should cook our v6 cars.

Flyin-Ryan
08-09-06, 01:01 PM
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Flyin-Ryan
08-09-06, 01:02 PM
The mustang driver probably did not know how to shift or you were racing a v6. The 05 Mustang GT does the 1/4 in 13.5 @ 103 mph. Thats cool how your CTS performed...but our cars are NOT fast by any means. Im not doubting you beat it...but there was probably more to it than that. No way our cars will beat a ligher car rated 300hp and 320 ft lbs or torque.

"I dont care if its by an inch or a mile winnings winning" Vin Diesel (fast and the furious).

Since when did 257 hp not become "fast by any means"? Fast is in the eye of the beholder anyway?

2004CTS
08-09-06, 01:10 PM
The mustang driver probably did not know how to shift or you were racing a v6. The 05 Mustang GT does the 1/4 in 13.5 @ 103 mph. Thats cool how your CTS performed...but our cars are NOT fast by any means. Im not doubting you beat it...but there was probably more to it than that. No way our cars will beat a ligher car rated 300hp and 320 ft lbs or torque.
The driver is key in drags and autocross. This is a win regardless, but does not suggest that a CTS will consistenly or always beat a new Buttstain GT. They are obviously faster than our cars (having V8 with more power and torque). It's not an equitable comparison, but still cool that it happened and people saw it!

Flyin-Ryan
08-09-06, 01:18 PM
Ohh Im not at all saying that my car is faster. I would have beat my cts if I was in the GT. I agree LOTs of cars are faster. I was just happy I won. More than that it was just a lot of fun. Plus it got all that "I want to race someone, anyone" out of my system.

nickc50310
08-09-06, 01:47 PM
I dont care what people say- our cars ARE fast. I came from a 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee so this car is fast to me. Our cars will beat 80 to 90% of the cars on the road.

I agree on the stang- either it was a 6 or the guy screwed up big time. I raced a pre 2004 stang (260hp, 300ft.lbs) and lost. We started from about 45 and I was beating him but once my car hit 5th gear at about 90mph he smoked me. I dont know what mods (if any) he had. I would put my money on our cars from a light though- especially with a good launch. Unless your name is SDMarine or RobertCTS youre not going to consistantly beat a 2005 and up Rustang.

nickc50310
08-09-06, 01:50 PM
BTW- a 2004 Stock Mustang gt has a 0 to 60 of 6.3 and a 1/4 mile time of 14.8

A 3.6 CTS is 0 to 60 in 6.4 and a 1/4 mile time of 14.9

Specs that close come down to all driver/launch.

Flyin-Ryan
08-09-06, 02:15 PM
Thats what I thought. I never heard a stock GT doing mid 13's

Flyin-Ryan
08-09-06, 02:16 PM
But I do think they messed up the launch. Cause i had a great start. He was catching up fast at the end

TagApl4
08-09-06, 02:26 PM
Hey it is always fun to beat a rustang despite driver and model. My roomate has a mustang, not a GT, but whenever we both go somewhere and take both cars i make sure i dust him and he plays catch up the whole way. he thought his mustang was fast till i got my blac lac.

Now when we go somewhere ill be like we should hurry up lets take your car and laugh, then he gets in my car cus we are in a hurry and i ask him if he is comfotable, feel free to adjust the dual climet control. :thepan:

AznPrydeRegalRyde
08-10-06, 03:29 PM
Thats what I thought. I never heard a stock GT doing mid 13's The new GT's (coupe + manual especially) hit mid 13's all the time. There are a couple videos on streetfire of a stock one hitting 13.6.

Flyin-Ryan
08-10-06, 03:31 PM
Stock tires??