: 2008 Imperial



Sandy
07-02-06, 03:15 PM
Sadly I have been told of an initial decession to not bring the Imperial to market. I am not sure as to whether the decession pertains to the design shown, or to the nameplate. I think my understanding is to the design shown.

caddydaddy
07-02-06, 10:02 PM
That's too bad! That was an awesome looking car!

Destroyer
07-02-06, 11:40 PM
Yeah but look on the bright side Sandy, they were probably gonna fill it up with German parts anyway. Who needs that?:eek:

thebigjimsho
07-03-06, 12:02 AM
I think the Imperial looks like the Chinese copy of a Rolls Royce. BUT, if it could do what the Town Car could do with some improvements, it could succeed somewhat. But then again, maybe they see what Ford is doing in possibly getting rid of the Town Car and are thinking the market is going away.

When replacing the Town Car this winter, I may be going with a DTS. I just wish it was RWD.

Sandy
07-03-06, 09:27 AM
Certainly Ford's dismal sales of the Town Car, since 2004 have caught their eye in Auburn Hills.
The concept's styling drew many many appreciative comments, but it also drew way more criticisim than expected. Myself, I didn't like the P.T. Cruiser hood and grille, which I found that I was the ONLY one who pickedup on that !! The taillamps made the car's back end look like the front end of a car, causing many to commented about that. The back end was indeed "a Mess" and needed to be cleaned up. The only really good part was the roof and body sides. Front & back were waaaay too busy. The wheels were terrific as was the "dutch doors" and the interior. That's alot more "good" than "bad" ~ to build upon. They need to "relax" on the front end and simplify it and deep six that 1980s Dodge Diplomat COUPE trunk lid, in favor of a simplified unit, and then they've got something. Price it with all options made standard. Only choices customer has to make:- paint color & interior and price it AT $49,000, no more. While filling the thing with IPOD, MP3, 12 Disc CD Changer, 4 Cup Holders, Integrated Cell Phone are nice, don't do so at the expense of forgetting the things that the 1975 Imperial had that were convenience FOR DRIVING! Do not forget that it is, in the end, A CAR!! !!
So, to that end, lets have:-
Twilight Sentinel Lighting
Automatic Beam Changer
Automatic 10MPH Door Locking
Rain Sencing Windshield Wipers
One Touch Down FRONT door windows
One Touch Open Moonroof
Dual Exhausts
and other driving conveniences !!
Colors ?
They need to review their own 1967 Imperial Color Offerings and forget about today's common choice of 9 to 11 colors. (11 on Caddy & 9 on Lincoln :eek: :thepan:

For those of you not yet over 55, here's the color selection for the 1967 Imperial:-
Silver Mist / Formal Black / Aegean Blue / Wedgewood Blue / Regal Blue / Haze Green / Forest Green / Sepia Brown / Aqua Turquoise / Twilight Turquoise / Turbine Bronze / Flame Red / Plum Red / Daffodil Yellow / Ivory / Persian White / Sandalwood Beige / Desert Fawn / Cinnamon Gold / Charcoal Gray / Dusty Mauve-Pink / Ruby Red. 22 Choices and 12 interior leather colors !!

thebigjimsho
07-03-06, 02:32 PM
Ahhh, you are the same Sandy that frequents the lincolntowncar.org forums, are you not?

When I read Twilight Sentinel Lighting, I knew that was you! You're obsessed with that feature! j/k

Jesda
07-03-06, 05:38 PM
"Imperial" is a name that should be on something classy, not garish.

noahsdad
07-03-06, 06:45 PM
Sandy - I know you were really looking forward to the proposed Imperial, but I must say I think the marque is better off - at least without that one. That design was so burdened with sales limiting mistakes. Chrysler as you know has often tried and failed to incorporate 'classic' style cues into contemporary design, and the photos I saw looked like a comic collage of them. The Imperial needs to stand out and stand alone; create trends rather than follow them.

I've always been curious Sandy, of your impressions of what was probably the least popular of the Imperials, the 1990-1992 stretched "K" version.

http://www.hillsedge.com/images/vehicles/92%20Imperial%20Gray%203067_resized.jpg

Sandy
07-03-06, 09:18 PM
I think the Imperial looks like the Chinese copy of a Rolls Royce. BUT, if it could do what the Town Car could do with some improvements, it could succeed somewhat. But then again, maybe they see what Ford is doing in possibly getting rid of the Town Car and are thinking the market is going away.

When replacing the Town Car this winter, I may be going with a DTS. I just wish it was RWD.

THERE IS A 2007 TOWN CAR ! They are in production NOW, and will continue thru & including April of 2007. I read like 35,000 will be made.

Sandy
07-03-06, 09:22 PM
Ahhh, you are the same Sandy that frequents the lincolntowncar.org forums, are you not?

When I read Twilight Sentinel Lighting, I knew that was you! You're obsessed with that feature! j/k

YES, same Sandy

Sandy
07-03-06, 09:26 PM
Sandy - I know you were really looking forward to the proposed Imperial, but I must say I think the marque is better off - at least without that one. That design was so burdened with sales limiting mistakes. Chrysler as you know has often tried and failed to incorporate 'classic' style cues into contemporary design, and the photos I saw looked like a comic collage of them. The Imperial needs to stand out and stand alone; create trends rather than follow them.

I've always been curious Sandy, of your impressions of what was probably the least popular of the Imperials, the 1990-1992 stretched "K" version.

http://www.hillsedge.com/images/vehicles/92%20Imperial%20Gray%203067_resized.jpg

I thought that it was "okay". Not really worthy of the nameplate, but also not an offensive car. It was like your very favorite soup (or coffee ~ your pick) ...... served a little cold.

What more can I say? Well, I guess I could add that was about the time (1993) I switched over to Cadillac.....and then to Lincoln.....and next time, probably back to Cadillac, now that the garish Imperial is dead.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
07-04-06, 12:33 AM
I've always been curious Sandy, of your impressions of what was probably the least popular of the Imperials, the 1990-1992 stretched "K" version.

http://www.hillsedge.com/images/vehicles/92%20Imperial%20Gray%203067_resized.jpg


Personally, I think they're kinda neat cars. Designed to compete with a deVille or a Continental, but priced and built closer to a Park Avenue. They were a pretty reliable car right, but none too powerful or quick.

I'd take one, but not as a "prized car".

Sandy
07-04-06, 01:43 PM
I know where there is a triple black example, with Air Suspension with 7,200 miles on it, as new throughout. $14,000 will make it yours. It's in New England. No it's NOT mine! I never had a 1990-1993 Imperial. I did have a Gold 1982 bustleback coupe. That was my last Imp. IMO the last "REAL" Imp; built with real Imperial quality and to time honored Imperial levels was the 1975.

http://mclellansautomotive.com/photos/B26705.jpg

thebigjimsho
07-05-06, 01:55 AM
THERE IS A 2007 TOWN CAR ! They are in production NOW, and will continue thru & including April of 2007. I read like 35,000 will be made.Oh, I know. But since my fleet will most likely to be expanding with possibly an '07 Escalade or Yukon XL, the next sedan will be in the stable for 5 years, instead of 3. I just don't want to own a car that no longer is being made for the last 2 years.

Sandy
07-05-06, 09:47 AM
That would therefore be ruling out a Pierce Arrow, correct ?

(Just making my point)......

I may order a 2007 Town Car, but THAT is based solely upon my desires for a big car. Big not only on the inside, bit on the outside, too. Big in length and width, not wanting "big" in height, as in a SUV. Our son is an EMS Tech and on-duty Thursdays + Fridays 6PM to 1AM and not a week goes by that he's not dealing with a SUV roll-over. Ths past Friday one was "tapped" at 20 MPH as it flew down an interestate at an estimated 63-66 MPH and was tapped or "kissed" in the passenger SIDE rear of the wheel cutout, ahead of the taillamp, and it swearved a bit, and the driver could not regain her stabliity and over she went! 3 busted ribs, one broken arm, and one head trauma, shared between 2 people!

If it's ILLEAGLE to load anything above the Bottom of a window (due to obliterating vision) why dear God do they make these things 74 inches tall ?? ?? ??

Think twice about that Empire State Building on wheels.
The kids been on the force for a year, and has never been called to a passenger car roll over. Weekly on an SUV. A roll over usually means a 70% probability of serious injury.

Town Cars don't roll.......have a 23 Cu Ft trunk, too.

70eldo
07-06-06, 03:59 AM
If it's ILLEAGLE to load anything above the Bottom of a window (due to obliterating vision) why dear God do they make these things 74 inches tall ?? ?? ??

For anything light and tall? And to sit comfortably upright?



Think twice about that Empire State Building on wheels.
The kids been on the force for a year, and has never been called to a passenger car roll over. Weekly on an SUV. A roll over usually means a 70% probability of serious injury.

Town Cars don't roll.......have a 23 Cu Ft trunk, too.

Makes me think of Dodges claim "wider is better" :D

Sandy
07-07-06, 04:25 PM
That was PONTIAC, in 1960 ! W-I-D-E- * T-R-A-C-K * P-O-N-T-I-A-C !
wider IS better !

We were informed of this 60 times a day in Radio & T.V. ! I was 14 years old and it's still embedded in my bones.

Pete Benson
07-08-06, 07:08 PM
That was PONTIAC, in 1960 ! W-I-D-E- * T-R-A-C-K * P-O-N-T-I-A-C !
wider IS better !

We were informed of this 60 times a day in Radio & T.V. ! I was 14 years old and it's still embedded in my bones.

My folks bought a '60 Bonneville convertible: black, with a white top, and 3-tone red leather bucket seats. You could not get my mother out of it - she loved to drive fast and furious, kept the top down in all but the worst weather, and was craaaaaaaazy about that car. After only one year, they had to sell it because my dad got stationed to Korea and we couldn't take it with us, and mom was wrecked over the loss of that big black Bonneville.

CVP33
07-09-06, 12:06 AM
The Imperial was going to be a hard sell. The 300C already stickers at $40K+, so to move the Imperial upmarket means a $50K+ sticker. That's pretty rarified air for our pedestrian domestic car makers. Only Caddy dares enter that arena with the STS and that's even slowing in the sales department. Sandy have you read up on the new LongWheelBase 300C? The car mags say that the livery business demand will all but strip out production. But this may be the vehicle you're looking for if you want the size of a Town Car, a V8 and plenty and I do mean plenty of leg room.

thebigjimsho
07-09-06, 12:22 AM
The Imperial was going to be a hard sell. The 300C already stickers at $40K+, so to move the Imperial upmarket means a $50K+ sticker. That's pretty rarified air for our pedestrian domestic car makers. Only Caddy dares enter that arena with the STS and that's even slowing in the sales department. Sandy have you read up on the new LongWheelBase 300C? The car mags say that the livery business demand will all but strip out production. But this may be the vehicle you're looking for if you want the size of a Town Car, a V8 and plenty and I do mean plenty of leg room.I'm sure a number of companies will get the 300CL, or is that 300C L? But unless they give us extra amenities, rear seat controls and a softer ride, I can tell you that my company won't be getting them and many of the other upper echelon companies will refrain as well. Personally, I think it would be great to drive. But my clients won't care what I think. Only what their ass feels.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
07-09-06, 02:30 AM
I don't think a 300 would ride smooth enough to be a limo. You would need the T/C for that.

Pete Benson
07-09-06, 04:09 PM
It seems to me that for a limousine you'd want something distinctive to start with, and I think the 300's are becoming less so all the time, because they are EVERYWHERE. Up here in northern California there are billions of them, and I'd bet money the novelty will wear off. Yes, I know I'm off topic again - so shoot me.