View Full Version : eBay SCAM again.....


jrs05caddyext
05-19-06, 11:48 AM
Damn these guyz keep on doing this. First they were using the 26" DUB Big Homie wheels and now my old 26" TIS04s.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TIS-04-s-Style-26-inch-Chrome-Rims-Wheels-Tires_W0QQitemZ8067153217QQcategoryZ66486QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

vietfob714
05-19-06, 12:03 PM
popular guy... i remember when they did this to u b4

cadnathan
05-19-06, 01:01 PM
he may get someone. he has 100% feedback and there is no way to contact the potential buyer. someone may want to contact ebay to try and end the auction. but, didn't you sell those wheels? are you sure its not the guy that bought them from you?

jrs05caddyext
05-19-06, 01:12 PM
he may get someone. he has 100% feedback and there is no way to contact the potential buyer. someone may want to contact ebay to try and end the auction. but, didn't you sell those wheels? are you sure its not the guy that bought them from you?

I contacted eBay several times on the other wheels but it’s always a different username, since then I have gotten tired of contacting eBay. I'm sure it’s not the same guy that I sold them too. This guy claim that they are on his EXT.

Rolex
05-19-06, 02:04 PM
It would seem that Ebay has practically been plagued by scammers the past few months. Scammers are hijacking other people's accounts [with good feedback] and selling ghost merchandise. Usually someone catches these things and Ebay shuts down the auction....but not always. Buyer beware.

cadnathan
05-19-06, 02:48 PM
I contacted eBay several times on the other wheels but it’s always a different username, since then I have gotten tired of contacting eBay. I'm sure it’s not the same guy that I sold them too. This guy claim that they are on his EXT.

That alone is really cool of you, but to have 0 feedback and no history and trying to sell rims is one thing, while having 100 percent and decent feedback is another. It's not your job or anything, but if you have time to find the ad, post about it here, comment about it, etc, why not just contact ebay and copy and paste what you sent them last time to stop the auction?

cadnathan
05-19-06, 02:52 PM
holy shit, i just looked at the dudes feedback and all his feedback is from other scammers! i guess it's buyer beware and if someone spends over $4k after looking at his feedback circle, then oh well.

integline
05-19-06, 03:52 PM
his feedback is scammer because all sales are private?
man that would suck to be out 4K on rims.

TaTownBacker
05-19-06, 04:05 PM
Out of curiosity how do you know they are scammers? I believe you I am just wondering what formed your belief.


Ta TownBacker

chuckdobbins
05-19-06, 04:09 PM
im curious as well. im not discounting your knowledge or anything, id just like to know what youre seeing that im not.

id never drop that much money on ebay, but still the auction looks legit to me.

DLE
05-19-06, 04:11 PM
Beware guys. I bought a cell phone on ebay a while back for $250. Turns out it was a scammer, because it was set to private like this one, and I notified paypal. Well, paypal did their thing, and can only recover back $180 for me. That was the best they can do. Plus it took about 1 or 2 months for me to get that money! So beware what you buy!

I also started selling a few small items on ebay, then the mother f'ers (scammers) are trying to log into my account. I am getting a bunch of emails stating that somebody from a foreign address are attempting to log into my account! I made my password VERY difficult so they cannot figure it out. Make sure your password contains letters AND numbers.

jrs05caddyext
05-19-06, 04:27 PM
Check the feedback of these 13 people. Most have feedback for items under 1 dollar ot they are private.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=larrysmithfield&iid=8067153217&frm=284

jrs05caddyext
05-19-06, 04:31 PM
im curious as well. im not discounting your knowledge or anything, id just like to know what youre seeing that im not.

id never drop that much money on ebay, but still the auction looks legit to me.

Looks legit but its not. Most of these guys even throw a phone # but never answer to the calls. They do this to make you think its legit. This is what he has on his auction "Check these wheels out on my Escalade EXT" when infact these are my pictures.

and he only takes wire transfer.

chuckdobbins
05-19-06, 05:01 PM
ok i just went through all the feedback and everything. long story short, this kinda thing makes me sick.

this is a really good find that youve made! i cant imagine that ebay wouldnt listen to you on something like this. youve got all the proof there is!

to reiterate, this makes me sick.

AWF_AXIS
05-19-06, 05:03 PM
EBay does have it's share of scammers. I've done some 400 (buyer) transactions over the years, and only got burned once. Sad thing was, I even talked to the guy on the phone, regarding some painting I was getting for my wife.

Buyer's can be scammers too.

I sell TAG Heuer watches (that I repaired), an occasional Rolex, Omega, Maurice Lacroix, etc., and have maintained 100% rating. (I'm a watch collector). (Buy with one ID, sell with another. I look for the guy who doesn't know what he has (value wise), or is in a hurry).

Anyway, there was one transaction where I sold an old Rolex for $2500, and 3 days later, I get a "certified" check from a bank in Maryland. I happen to get some water on my fingers, and the ink on the magnetic numbers get's blotchy.

I'm now trying to find the check issuer (bank) on the internet, and its a real bank. Even though I promise to ship my items on the same day payment is received, I wait to call the next morning (bank closed already in East, and I'm west). In any event, I call the bank, and they tell me they are getting numerous people depositing these bogus "cashier's" checks.

I start looking through the guy's purchases, and this dude went on a $500,000spending spree over 4 days. Watches, plasmas, computers, anything that's in the thousands. The delivery address turns out to be a "Mail-Box Etc" type of place. And he's already getting POSITIVE feedback from victims.

I get a call from the US Postal Inspector, since this is considered mail fraud. Long story short, I had kept the check (didn't deposit it), and so they figured besides my fingerprints, it would be easier to get something since the check did not go through the banking system.

It took them 1 year, but they finally caught the guy doing it under different names over the year. He got away with about 20% of the transactions, because people consider the "cashier's check" as cash, and ship their items before getting notice back from their bank.

He's now doing time....

Dave

chuckdobbins
05-19-06, 05:10 PM
im sure all this BS comes around to bite these people in the backside, but right now im ready to punch the next person that walks into my room...im so heated!

lol what would happen if i were to make a bid of like 50 grand for these rims...thus winning the auction, and then of course i dont pay a dime?

jrs05caddyext
05-19-06, 05:12 PM
Just reported this guy to ebay.

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jrs05caddyext
05-19-06, 05:15 PM
im sure all this BS comes around to bite these people in the backside, but right now im ready to punch the next person that walks into my room...im so heated!

lol what would happen if i were to make a bid of like 50 grand for these rims...thus winning the auction, and then of course i dont pay a dime?

I have thought about that as well. Being the highest bidder and not pay. I have also contacted the bidder in the past but some auctions are private not allowing me to do so.

cadnathan
05-19-06, 05:16 PM
Just reported this guy to ebay.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

integline
05-19-06, 05:27 PM
i got a fake check for 1800 or something a few years back and almost shipped some rims. Luckily i was smart and went to the bank and they were able to catch it. I always try to take the check to the bank stated on it or cashiers check. sometimes its a local bank, but you got to be careful.
Half million dollar scam thats some craziness!!

chuckdobbins
05-19-06, 05:38 PM
he ended the auction early...we'll never know what happens

AWF_AXIS
05-19-06, 05:50 PM
It may have gotten pulled by eBay. I used to report fake TAG and Rolex watches, and these listings would simply end or dissappear in a day's time.

Dave

07slade
05-19-06, 06:42 PM
you know what I would do..ask the guy if you can come and check out the wheels..heheh and see what he says..and if he says ok, go there with YOUR ext and kick his a**. I'm so mad about this right now. some people are such scum.

update: I sent that scumbag a nice message to get him sweating.. hmm mabye i should send a message to the winner?

fast66
05-19-06, 10:51 PM
he may get someone. he has 100% feedback and there is no way to contact the potential buyer. someone may want to contact ebay to try and end the auction. but, didn't you sell those wheels? are you sure its not the guy that bought them from you?


he has a 100% feedback because the bastard signs up with other accounts and leaves himself positive's. I hate those scammers, because paypal and ebay try as hard as they can not to help out when you get scammed.

fast66
05-19-06, 10:52 PM
It may have gotten pulled by eBay. I used to report fake TAG and Rolex watches, and these listings would simply end or dissappear in a day's time.

Dave


I thought you could sell fake watches just as long as you dont claim that they are real?

AWF_AXIS
05-20-06, 02:10 AM
It's actually Federal trademark issue, but difficult to prosecute. You may not infringe on business trademarks with the intent to defraud a buyer into believing something is a genuine article. Rolex sued eBay many years ago when all the fakes started showing up, and eBay has agreed to remove any listings where authenticity could not be proved. It's one thing to sell these things on the street corner in NYC or LA, because a buyer knows its fake. But some sellers were trying to pass fakes off as genuine.

I traded TAG Heuer's because I could get parts to fix them up, and turn them around for a little profit. However, I found that there were several chinese suppliers selling fakes to scammers. I could spot them, and I turned them in. I needed to keep the pricing reasonably high when selling off my collections.

TAG's were kind of the status watch for high-schoolers and college kids, and I never took a loss. Not enough to make any real profit, but it allowed me to have some nice TAG's for a while, then sell them off.

It was hobby in which I never spent much money in the end, and ended up with a few nice time-pieces.

Dave

fast66
05-20-06, 02:22 AM
It's actually Federal trademark issue, but difficult to prosecute. You may not infringe on business trademarks with the intent to defraud a buyer into believing something is a genuine article. Rolex sued eBay many years ago when all the fakes started showing up, and eBay has agreed to remove any listings where authenticity could not be proved. It's one thing to sell these things on the street corner in NYC or LA, because a buyer knows its fake. But some sellers were trying to pass fakes off as genuine.

I traded TAG Heuer's because I could get parts to fix them up, and turn them around for a little profit. However, I found that there were several chinese suppliers selling fakes to scammers. I could spot them, and I turned them in. I needed to keep the pricing reasonably high when selling off my collections.

TAG's were kind of the status watch for high-schoolers and college kids, and I never took a loss. Not enough to make any real profit, but it allowed me to have some nice TAG's for a while, then sell them off.

It was hobby in which I never spent much money in the end, and ended up with a few nice time-pieces.

Dave

Do you fix tag's that have the motion battery?
So you fix any other type of watch?
thanks

AWF_AXIS
05-20-06, 10:44 AM
The secret about TAG's, is that the movements (both mechanical and battery) are off the shelf. A Swiss company called ETA makes movements for most all watch low to midrange watch companies, except a few, like Patek Philippe, Rolex, IWC, which actually design and build their own movements. ETA sells their movements through jewellery/watch-maker distributors.

Anyway, the Chopard watches seem to use other movements, but I doubt it is an ETA movement. The ETA movements cost no more than $100 at the most (mechanical-chronograph), and the Chopard line has many pieces on the very high-end. There is one model that uses a Patek Phillipe movement, which puts it up there with the 5 and 6 figure price column.

Your best bet is to find an authorized Chopard dealer, and have them send it in for rebuilding. All mechanical watches (winds via movement) are supposed to be rebuilt every 5-6 years. They completey take apart the movement, clean all the parts, reassemble, oil, calibrate and replace anything that is worn. An OMEGA and ROLEX typically charge around $500 for this service, so I can't image Chopard is out of this range.

When you have an expensive time piece, it's worth this service to keep its value.

Dave

fast66
05-20-06, 10:50 AM
The secret about TAG's, is that the movements (both mechanical and battery) are off the shelf. A Swiss company called ETA makes movements for most all watch low to midrange watch companies, except a few, like Patek Philippe, Rolex, IWC, which actually design and build their own movements. ETA sells their movements through jewellery/watch-maker distributors.

Anyway, the Chopard watches seem to use other movements, but I doubt it is an ETA movement. The ETA movements cost no more than $100 at the most (mechanical-chronograph), and the Chopard line has many pieces on the very high-end. There is one model that uses a Patek Phillipe movement, which puts it up there with the 5 and 6 figure price column.

Your best bet is to find an authorized Chopard dealer, and have them send it in for rebuilding. All mechanical watches (winds via movement) are supposed to be rebuilt every 5-6 years. They completey take apart the movement, clean all the parts, reassemble, oil, calibrate and replace anything that is worn. An OMEGA and ROLEX typically charge around $500 for this service, so I can't image Chopard is out of this range.

When you have an expensive time piece, it's worth this service to keep its value.


Dave
thanks Dave,
You obviously know a lot about watches.
I thought all watches were the same once you get to the omega or breitling value price.
It is still under warranty which i think lasts 5 years and its been sent to geneva about 4 times total now. I will contact them again though and this time I hope it works out.
It may infact be what you are saying, about them needing to rebuild it because it is about 5 years old now maybe 4. I just hate having to shake my arm so much, so I bought a battery fossil watch in the mean time.
thanks again for the advice

Nawaf

BG 03 ESV
05-20-06, 11:27 PM
Check out this f*cken dirt bag. I thinking of bidding 10k so he can wet his pants. What an a-hole. Notice how he only accepts wire transfer, and his feedback all private.:want: :mad:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Asanti-AF-128-Lexani-24-INCH-Chrome-Rims-Wheels-Tires_W0QQitemZ8067827446QQcategoryZ66486QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

fast66
05-21-06, 05:39 AM
Check out this f*cken dirt bag. I thinking of bidding 10k so he can wet his pants. What an anal cavity. Notice how he only accepts wire transfer, and his feedback all private.:want: :mad:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Asanti-AF-128-Lexani-24-INCH-Chrome-Rims-Wheels-Tires_W0QQitemZ8067827446QQcategoryZ66486QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

you think the wheels are stolen or its a total scam alltogether?

BG 03 ESV
05-21-06, 11:16 AM
you think the wheels are stolen or its a total scam alltogether?


I think it's a total scam. I found a few others. Just look at it. Wire transfer, bogus feedback, free ship. Too good to be true, IMO.

99escalademan
05-21-06, 11:36 AM
This is why i only use craiglist.org. Everything you buy is local so you can pick it up. Its also free to list:)

fast66
05-21-06, 11:47 AM
I think it's a total scam. I found a few others. Just look at it. Wire transfer, bogus feedback, free ship. Too good to be true, IMO.

I see what you mean, reminds of this one guy that had some 24" davin spinners for sale, for 1,500, and he wanted me to Western Union him the money only. It was too shady to be true.