: So, all STS-V owners, any problems yet?



Kadonny
05-15-06, 08:37 AM
So I figure many of you have put some pretty decent miles on your cars. Anyone have any problems yet?

Just curious how they are holding up compared to the CTS-V.

SRT8/BMW
05-15-06, 08:57 AM
So I figure many of you have put some pretty decent miles on your cars. Anyone have any problems yet?

Just curious how they are holding up compared to the CTS-V.


3000 miles...no problems so far.......

Bartlett_2
05-16-06, 10:10 AM
6700 miles, and occasionally the transmission downshifts very hard, as if the line pressure was extremely high, or the TC is locking or unlocking improperly. It will do it continually until I turn it off and restart it a few times. It has probably done it about 15 different times. I am planning on taking it in the next time it does it.

dslivingston
05-19-06, 07:16 PM
3600 miles and just perfect.

ssstealth
05-23-06, 05:36 AM
Nothing mechanical... There was a screw loose inside the framework of the trunklid that would roll around when lifted and the strut brace across the engine had a huge scratch in it. This part is on indefinate backorder... I guess they need them for production.

The only other problem is just keeping the wheels clean... those massive brakes create a lot of dust. I hope this is just a break-in condition.

Kadonny
05-23-06, 08:31 AM
Good info so far. This may be my next car if GM ever puts in the paddle shift for the auto trans.

On the brake dust, there is the Hawk pads for the CTS-V that supposedly cuts way down on brake dust, they probably make them for the STS-V. Maybe contact James @ Lindsay Cadillac for info.

wesleyb200
03-01-07, 10:43 PM
I have 12,000 miles and have a high whine in the rear end starting at 55 to 65 MPH. Dealer will not replace the rear end and says its common for high performance Cad rear ends. May be even worse with a new rear end. Also, I have a thumping tire noise on my front run flat tires. Dealer says its typical for runflat tires. Not very good for the image of American Cars when you pay $80,000 for one.

Davidstan
03-02-07, 08:06 AM
I really believe my blown head gasket was isolated. Get the replacement car saturday. Have been driving the rebuilt V in the meantime and no other probs.

thefred
03-02-07, 08:54 AM
This may be my next car if GM ever puts in the paddle shift for the auto trans.


I guess you went for it any way even without the paddle shift.....:D

bobs-sts-v
03-02-07, 12:52 PM
Over 13,000 miles and the only problem was a bad seal in the rear transaxle (saw a nasty leak on the garage floor!). Happened almost immediately (less than 2 weeks old). Dealer replaced the seals, fluid, installed new sensors and it has been flawless ever since. Brake dust is NOT a break-in condition - it doesn't get any better. I have a set of Hawk pads on the way. My neighbor builds and races cars, so this will probably be a weekend project in his shop. Also have a second set of rims for some snowtires on the way as well. Local Discount Tire dealer said he will match anything from TireRack, so as soon as I get them, he will pop on a set of the Advan S.4's or the Blizzak R22's. (Any feedback on winter performance of these two tires would be appreciated!)

Bob

P.S. As soon as the weather clears up a bit and I can get it cleaned up, I will post some photos.

JayS
03-02-07, 04:07 PM
6500 care free and enjoyable miles.Much more fun as a daily driver than the BMW M5 I owned and much better than my wifes BMW 740i.Quality of paint and fit of body panels is excellent

Kadonny
03-02-07, 04:21 PM
I guess you went for it any way even without the paddle shift.....:D


Yeah, I had a change of mind :bouncy:

WillySTS
03-02-07, 09:01 PM
We had the right front seat passenger presence module go bad at about 1500 miles, the air bag would remain off even when an adult was sitting in the seat. Had the nav radio software upgraded last week and also had the HVAC afterblow turned on.

No other trobles but, last week I did the lube oil and filter and switched to Amsoil 0w-30, also drained the power steering fluid and put in Redline power steering fluid and lastly replaced the differential gear oil with Amsoil's new 75w-110 gear oil.

ssstealth
03-02-07, 09:02 PM
Just turned 20,000 miles and all is well. Tire wear is not what I'm used to but I guess that is to be expected on these Pirelli's. I think i will go with the Goodyear Eagle F1's next time as they are reported to be fantastic in the rain.

I am still concerned about the long term reliability of such a complex engine. I bought the LT1 Fleetwood in 94 because it was a fairly simple engine design and it is sitting outside right now with 340,000 miles on it... yes original motor.

I will have to get the same service from this ride to justify the cost!!!

The interior of this car is really becoming one of my favorite parts. It is really cool NOT to have a completely plastic interior.

thefred
03-03-07, 07:41 AM
Had the nav radio software upgraded last week
What is the upgrade supposed to do? And is it only for 2007s?

XLRvman
03-03-07, 02:55 PM
15,000 miles and only issue has been squeaky brakes

WillySTS
03-03-07, 08:50 PM
The Nav radio upgrade is for, screens that lock up occationally, voice recognition problems,low out going volume of the Bluetooth phone, memorization issues and a few other things that I can't remember. It's a software upgrade just like for a PC. It seemed to help a little bit.

...oh, and it is for 2005 and up STS nav radios.

WillySTS
03-03-07, 09:11 PM
Here is the Nav Radio update

Document ID# 1889058
2007 Cadillac STS

________________________________________
Subject:
Voice Recognition System Performs Poorly, Memory Seat Function Operation Complicated, Navigation Radio Screen Locks Up, Map DVD Message Displayed, Telephone Number Not Dialed via Bluetooth #05-08-126-001A - (01/18/2007)
Models: 2005-2007 Cadillac STS
Built Prior to December, 2006
with Navigation Radio (RPO YQ4)

________________________________________
This bulletin is being revised to add additional conditions, update the service procedure and revise the part ordering information. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 05-08-126-001 (Section 08 -- Body & Accessories).
________________________________________

Condition

Some customers may comment of any or all of the following conditions:
Poor performance of the voice recognition system.
The memory seat function operation is too complicated to set.
The navigation radio touch screen locks up.
The navigation radio displays "Disc Inserted is Not a Map DVD" even though a map DVD is installed.
A telephone number cannot be dialed via "Bluetooth". This occurs after the customer has added and/or deleted more than 50 inputs.
When using "Bluetooth", the outbound caller is very faint and cannot be heard well.

Cause

These conditions may be caused by the navigation system software.

Correction

Important: After the software updates are complete, the customer may notice that some functions have been moved to different screen locations. Some voice recognition commands that were used infrequently have been deleted. If a voice command is not recognized, the navigation radio will now prompt the user to speak the command up to three times.
Technicians are to perform a software update on the audio and navigation systems using the following procedure:
1. Record the customer's radio station presets.
2. Connect a Tech 2 to the vehicle and cycle the ignition to ON with the engine off. This mode can be reached by depressing the lower part of the ignition switch for about 5 or 6 seconds. The upper button, with a circle on it, will illuminate.
3. Wait until the audio or map screen is displayed after the Cadillac logo screen.
Important: If the navigation system software is the same or higher than version 0FC, the software update will not start and the navigation software update is not necessary. DO NOT insert disc 2 into the radio.
4. Eject the map DVD, if loaded. Load the navigation system software update CD, disc 1, into the map DVD loading slot.
5. The statement "Preparing to load system software" will appear on the screen along with a progress bar. When the green progress bar reaches the end, the navigation software update using disc 1 is complete and the system will automatically restart.
6. Eject software update disc 1 from the map DVD slot.
7. Load the audio system software update, disc 2, into the map DVD slot.
8. A progress bar will be displayed on the lower left side of the screen. Japanese text will appear above the progress bar. When the yellow progress bar reaches the end, the audio system software update using disc 2 is complete and the system automatically restarts.
9. Eject the audio system update CD, disc 2, from the map DVD slot.
10. Use the Tech 2 to complete the following steps to initialize the audio and navigation software:
10.1. Select: Diagnostics
10.2. Select: Model year
10.3. Select: Vehicle type
10.4. Select: Product make
10.5. Select: Product line
10.6. Select: Product series
10.7. Select: F7 Body & Accessory
10.8. Select: Entertainment
10.9. Select: F5 Module Set-up
10.10. Select: F2 Navigation Radio
10.11. Select: F0 Audio Update Initialize (takes approximately 30 seconds)
10.12. Select: "Next". Note: A loss of communication will be experienced, power the Tech 2 off and then back on and follow steps 10.1 through 10.9, then proceed to step 10.13 to continue initializing the Navigation system.
10.13. Select: F1 Navigation Update Initialize (takes approximately 30 seconds)
10.14. Select: "On". The "Commanded State" will switch from "none" to "on" and the screen will flash and come up to the radio display.
10.15. Exit back to the "Body/Accessory" screen then select F7: Body/Accessory
10.16. Select: Entertainment
10.17. Select: F4 Module information
10.18. Select: F1 Navigation radio. Verify that the software versions are:
- Navigation system software version = 0FC1
- Audio system software version = 010C
30. Cycle the ignition to OFF.
31. Open and close the driver's door and wait for 60 seconds.
32. Cycle the ignition to ON.
33. Load the customer's map DVD into the lower slot located below the navigation system screen.
34. After inserting the map DVD, touch the "I agree" screen button. If the "I agree" screen does not come up, select the "globe"/map key to access the navigation screen.
35. Reset the radio presets to the customer's preferences.
36. Verify that the navigation system reflects the correct location of the vehicle. If necessary, recalibrate the navigation system. Refer to the STS Owner Navigation Manual supplement (pages 2-59 and 2-60) for more information.
37. Cycle the ignition to OFF. The software update is now complete.

Voice Recognition Commands

Please provide an updated list of the voice recognition commands that are currently available to your customers. Customers with a 2005 model year vehicle may not have had some of these commands available to them with their old navigation system software. Refer to the latest list that is a part of the Owner Manual Supplement on the Navigation System that is available in SI. Information about voice recognition is available in SI. Refer to Voice Recognition.

Parts Information

Obtain a software upgrade disc set by contacting the GM Navigation Disc Center at 1-877-628-3472 per Corporate Bulletin Number 06-08-44-012A (DVD Navigation Update Program, AVN Software Update Discs and Ordering Information). The center will require your BAC code, dealer code and shipping address. Advanced Vehicle Navigation (AVN) software discs are for the dealer to update the navigation radio software only. They DO NOT update or replace the navigation map disc that is supplied with the vehicle. Please order these parts only as needed. There is a limited supply of these discs available. Do not order these discs for stock. The AVN software update discs can be used to reprogram more than one vehicle. The first update disc for each part number is free. Subsequent copies of the same part number for the same dealer will cost $50.
Part Number Description Qty
15943724 Disc - Navigation Data (Software Update Disc Set) 1

Warranty Information

For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:
Labor Operation Description Labor Time
R9707* Radio/Navigation Reprogram 0.7 hr
*This labor operation is for bulletin use only. It will not be published in the Labor Time Guide.

GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.
WE SUPPORT VOLUNTARY TECHNICIAN CERTIFICATION
Copyright General Motors Corporation. All Rights Reserved.
________________________________________
Document ID# 1889058
2007 Cadillac STS

thefred
03-04-07, 10:27 AM
Here is the Nav Radio update

Document ID# 1889058
2007 Cadillac STS

________________________________________
Subject:
Voice Recognition System Performs Poorly, Memory Seat Function Operation Complicated, Navigation Radio Screen Locks Up, Map DVD Message Displayed, Telephone Number Not Dialed via Bluetooth #05-08-126-001A - (01/18/2007)
Models: 2005-2007 Cadillac STS
Built Prior to December, 2006
with Navigation Radio (RPO YQ4)

________________________________________
This bulletin is being revised to add additional conditions, update the service procedure and revise the part ordering information. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 05-08-126-001 (Section 08 -- Body & Accessories).
________________________________________

Condition

Some customers may comment of any or all of the following conditions:
Poor performance of the voice recognition system.
The memory seat function operation is too complicated to set.
The navigation radio touch screen locks up.
The navigation radio displays "Disc Inserted is Not a Map DVD" even though a map DVD is installed.
A telephone number cannot be dialed via "Bluetooth". This occurs after the customer has added and/or deleted more than 50 inputs.
When using "Bluetooth", the outbound caller is very faint and cannot be heard well.

Cause

These conditions may be caused by the navigation system software.

Correction

Important: After the software updates are complete, the customer may notice that some functions have been moved to different screen locations. Some voice recognition commands that were used infrequently have been deleted. If a voice command is not recognized, the navigation radio will now prompt the user to speak the command up to three times.
Technicians are to perform a software update on the audio and navigation systems using the following procedure:
1. Record the customer's radio station presets.
2. Connect a Tech 2 to the vehicle and cycle the ignition to ON with the engine off. This mode can be reached by depressing the lower part of the ignition switch for about 5 or 6 seconds. The upper button, with a circle on it, will illuminate.
3. Wait until the audio or map screen is displayed after the Cadillac logo screen.
Important: If the navigation system software is the same or higher than version 0FC, the software update will not start and the navigation software update is not necessary. DO NOT insert disc 2 into the radio.
4. Eject the map DVD, if loaded. Load the navigation system software update CD, disc 1, into the map DVD loading slot.
5. The statement "Preparing to load system software" will appear on the screen along with a progress bar. When the green progress bar reaches the end, the navigation software update using disc 1 is complete and the system will automatically restart.
6. Eject software update disc 1 from the map DVD slot.
7. Load the audio system software update, disc 2, into the map DVD slot.
8. A progress bar will be displayed on the lower left side of the screen. Japanese text will appear above the progress bar. When the yellow progress bar reaches the end, the audio system software update using disc 2 is complete and the system automatically restarts.
9. Eject the audio system update CD, disc 2, from the map DVD slot.
10. Use the Tech 2 to complete the following steps to initialize the audio and navigation software:
10.1. Select: Diagnostics
10.2. Select: Model year
10.3. Select: Vehicle type
10.4. Select: Product make
10.5. Select: Product line
10.6. Select: Product series
10.7. Select: F7 Body & Accessory
10.8. Select: Entertainment
10.9. Select: F5 Module Set-up
10.10. Select: F2 Navigation Radio
10.11. Select: F0 Audio Update Initialize (takes approximately 30 seconds)
10.12. Select: "Next". Note: A loss of communication will be experienced, power the Tech 2 off and then back on and follow steps 10.1 through 10.9, then proceed to step 10.13 to continue initializing the Navigation system.
10.13. Select: F1 Navigation Update Initialize (takes approximately 30 seconds)
10.14. Select: "On". The "Commanded State" will switch from "none" to "on" and the screen will flash and come up to the radio display.
10.15. Exit back to the "Body/Accessory" screen then select F7: Body/Accessory
10.16. Select: Entertainment
10.17. Select: F4 Module information
10.18. Select: F1 Navigation radio. Verify that the software versions are:
- Navigation system software version = 0FC1
- Audio system software version = 010C
30. Cycle the ignition to OFF.
31. Open and close the driver's door and wait for 60 seconds.
32. Cycle the ignition to ON.
33. Load the customer's map DVD into the lower slot located below the navigation system screen.
34. After inserting the map DVD, touch the "I agree" screen button. If the "I agree" screen does not come up, select the "globe"/map key to access the navigation screen.
35. Reset the radio presets to the customer's preferences.
36. Verify that the navigation system reflects the correct location of the vehicle. If necessary, recalibrate the navigation system. Refer to the STS Owner Navigation Manual supplement (pages 2-59 and 2-60) for more information.
37. Cycle the ignition to OFF. The software update is now complete.

Voice Recognition Commands

Please provide an updated list of the voice recognition commands that are currently available to your customers. Customers with a 2005 model year vehicle may not have had some of these commands available to them with their old navigation system software. Refer to the latest list that is a part of the Owner Manual Supplement on the Navigation System that is available in SI. Information about voice recognition is available in SI. Refer to Voice Recognition.

Parts Information

Obtain a software upgrade disc set by contacting the GM Navigation Disc Center at 1-877-628-3472 per Corporate Bulletin Number 06-08-44-012A (DVD Navigation Update Program, AVN Software Update Discs and Ordering Information). The center will require your BAC code, dealer code and shipping address. Advanced Vehicle Navigation (AVN) software discs are for the dealer to update the navigation radio software only. They DO NOT update or replace the navigation map disc that is supplied with the vehicle. Please order these parts only as needed. There is a limited supply of these discs available. Do not order these discs for stock. The AVN software update discs can be used to reprogram more than one vehicle. The first update disc for each part number is free. Subsequent copies of the same part number for the same dealer will cost $50.
Part Number Description Qty
15943724 Disc - Navigation Data (Software Update Disc Set) 1

Warranty Information

For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:
Labor Operation Description Labor Time
R9707* Radio/Navigation Reprogram 0.7 hr
*This labor operation is for bulletin use only. It will not be published in the Labor Time Guide.

GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.
WE SUPPORT VOLUNTARY TECHNICIAN CERTIFICATION
Copyright General Motors Corporation. All Rights Reserved.
________________________________________
Document ID# 1889058
2007 Cadillac STS
Thanks!

dtalley
03-05-07, 03:38 PM
12K miles and only one problem; the thermostat went bad and locked open. On very cold mornings the car would not come to temperature and it would then display the following message "engine hot A/C off", but the temperature gauge would read stone cold. Thermostat replaced, everything great!

ssstealth
03-07-07, 11:40 AM
The Nav radio upgrade is for, screens that lock up occationally, voice recognition problems,low out going volume of the Bluetooth phone, memorization issues and a few other things that I can't remember. It's a software upgrade just like for a PC. It seemed to help a little bit.

...oh, and it is for 2005 and up STS nav radios.

OK then... What is the software version you have now? If it is really fresh maybe we could all benefit from it.

ssstealth
03-07-07, 07:59 PM
... and in case you don't know how to read the software version...
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j248/ssstealth/STS-V/P1010066.jpg
From the NAV screen push "MENU" and then hold center of screen next to title for 5+ seconds and enter "9448" when you get the keypad.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j248/ssstealth/STS-V/P1010067.jpg
Push the "Software Info" button...

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j248/ssstealth/STS-V/P1010068.jpg
Push the "Next Page" button

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j248/ssstealth/STS-V/P1010069.jpg
Now you can read the version number in the left column

Z06CTSV
03-10-07, 08:06 AM
Just turned 20,000 miles and all is well. Tire wear is not what I'm used to but I guess that is to be expected on these Pirelli's. I think i will go with the Goodyear Eagle F1's next time as they are reported to be fantastic in the rain.

I am still concerned about the long term reliability of such a complex engine. I bought the LT1 Fleetwood in 94 because it was a fairly simple engine design and it is sitting outside right now with 340,000 miles on it... yes original motor.

I will have to get the same service from this ride to justify the cost!!!

The interior of this car is really becoming one of my favorite parts. It is really cool NOT to have a completely plastic interior.

Try Michelin's Pilot PS2's. The Goodyear F1 Supercar runflats are absolutely the best for dry warm weather driving. But they are the worst for cold wet weather driving. They are very scary in the rain with the temp under 40 degrees. Good Luck..