: Keyless Ignition vehicle thefts



Skibanker
05-13-06, 09:38 AM
Everyone might want to read CNET online this month. There's an article about our remote keyless entry system. It can be found here:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3513_7-6516433-1.html

Nic13
10-23-12, 10:45 AM
I'm glad I found an article like this, sadly my 05 sts was hacked and broken into within seconds last night. It seems that there is still not much known about how to prevent this. Hopefully getting the word out will help others...

V-swagon
10-23-12, 10:59 AM
Very interesting read. I never would have imagine that such a thing could be possible but I'm also not surprised what criminals will do to beat the system.

Ludacrisvp
10-23-12, 12:30 PM
I'm not too concerned about this happening. If they want in my car bad enough they'll figure out a way but the most they will get out of it besides likely trashing the car is an old classic iPod.

eatyoursandwich
10-23-12, 12:39 PM
Surprised it's only a 40-bit encryption. Definitely secure in the 80's, not so much anymore.

I can't imagine bumping the encryption up to 128 or 256-bits on RFID packets would be too costly, but OTA encryption isn't exactly my specialty.

Sounds like a great business opportunity for someone with the know-how.

Maybe there is a way TrueCrypt can encrypt OTA data transfers??

truckinman
10-23-12, 01:43 PM
That's a real eye opener. I never woulda dreamed this type of system would be so easy to bypass. Leaves me feeling a little less secure about my car.

B1n2fra
10-23-12, 04:37 PM
Not cool. I though it was damn near unhackable.

curtc
10-23-12, 05:42 PM
If they want it, take it...full coverage and gap insurance, don't keep valuables in there...i'd just get a V :)

Not surprised though...

EChas3
10-23-12, 10:36 PM
Locks only keep out the honest.

carter's_sts
10-23-12, 11:35 PM
All I have to say is Damn it!

ddalder
10-24-12, 12:00 AM
Wow, this thread was dug up from the archives!

Not really worried about my STS. This isn't exactly a popular car to steal. If I had an Escalade, I'd be a lot more concerned.

carter's_sts
10-24-12, 01:55 AM
As someone else once said, Holy old thread Batman. But unfortunately Nic13 had it happen , so its reality now.

Charles Warren
10-24-12, 06:43 AM
i agree if they get mine ill buy a v. might even go with an xlr v

carter's_sts
10-24-12, 09:31 AM
I just don't want the $&%@*s to take my V.

Midnight
10-24-12, 10:55 AM
Nic13, I'm curious to know how you determined how your car was stolen. More details would be really informative. Thanks!

That article, is frustratingly low on information in places. Like, it seems to imply that ALL manufacturers use the same encryption type and key strength. I would find that kind of annoying that nobody can crack the '05 ECU or enable video in motion without a hardware hack, yet the one thing that should be safe, isn't...

Here's something I found: http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/24/atrd-m10-offers-fingerprint-scanning-for-your-car/

I bet that could replace (or silently augment) the start switch, if it really became an epidemic.

dkozloski
10-24-12, 12:32 PM
Chain your car to a power pole like a bicycle.

eatyoursandwich
10-24-12, 01:55 PM
Chain your car to a power pole like a bicycle.

You called?

99003

DarkMingBlueSTS
10-24-12, 02:20 PM
Lol eat

Loren
10-24-12, 03:39 PM
You guys will love this one, leave the car, steal the GPS!
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/09/28/thieves-steal-cadillac-gps-navigation-systems/