I drive 57 miles one way to work every day so I considered one of those econo boxes but I am 6'2" and I just don’t fit in them. So last July I picked up a Cadillac Seville and I was surprised at how well it does on fuel. If I set the cruise at 65mph, I can get 29 mpg from a V-8.

Recently I ran across a product called Bio Performance Fuel additive. All I do is drop a couple of pills into the tank before I fill up and i can now get over 34 mpg at 65 mph. I have gained over 5 mpg and a considerable increase in performance. In fact, I no longer need to use premiun becaust the spark knock is gone when I use this stuff.

I know it sounds like a "Snake oil" product. In fact I wouldn't use it in my car until after I took it to the chem. lab at work and had them test it to make sure it wouldn't damage anything in my car.

They told me that it was all organic and non caustic so I tried it and I was surprised that it actually worked.

A friend of mine put it in his Dodge/Cummins pick up and he said he got a 37% increase in fuel mileage. (They say it works better in diesels).

I thought you might want to check into it. Their website is: http://www.cjd.mybpbiz.com/index.asp?pgid=3 (http://www.cjd.mybpbiz.com/index.asp?pgid=3)

It's worth a look.

Lemme know when the Florida swamp land is for sale . . . .

:hide:

If it works so well, then why haven't the oil companies bought the company and disbanded it, as it is said about all the 100 mile per gallon carburetor inventions that they supposedly bought ????????? :stirpot:

Interesting...the site informs you as to how the product works...But fails to explain why it takes 4 tanks of gas (& product) before you see any results. In addition their site says that if you forget to add the product (during the one fo the initial 4 fill-ups) you have to start ALL OVER again and fill it up four more times before you can reap the benefits...Again they have no explanation as to why this is the case....

While I won't call this stuff snake oil, I will say that snake oil and lack of information go hand-in-hand...:alchi:

This is gonna be another Amsoil vs. the world thread.

this is a classic quote....any potential customer should love to read this on a businesses website...maybe there product is legit...But this quote isn't helping anything :histeric:

"We pay for your dream vacations, your dream car and your dream home!
Creating 1,000 millionaires!

Know everything there is to know about the
company, product and compensation plan

...and how to launch, catapult and propel your business"


What they really mean to say is:


"We grind up old carpets and put the fibers into a pill...And people think it increases there gas mileage!...We make so much money we can pay for just about anything!

Come and learn everything about our company, the B.S. sales pitch, the unbelievable profit margins, and how the middle class will actually fall for this stuff!..You'll be just as thrilled as we are!."
:histeric:

In fact, I no longer need to use premiun becaust the spark knock is gone when I use this stuff.
Interesting. That would likely make you the only Seville owner to have experienced "spark knock."

Umm.. LOL.

Interesting. That would likely make you the only Seville owner to have experienced "spark knock."

It didn't knock when I used premium but it sure did when I used regular unleaded.

Interesting...the site informs you as to how the product works...But fails to explain why it takes 4 tanks of gas (& product) before you see any results. In addition their site says that if you forget to add the product (during the one fo the initial 4 fill-ups) you have to start ALL OVER again and fill it up four more times before you can reap the benefits...Again they have no explanation as to why this is the case....

While I won't call this stuff snake oil, I will say that snake oil and lack of information go hand-in-hand...:alchi:
I don't know why they put that on there website. I saw a 2 MPG increase on the first tank.

What they told me was that it will clean the deposits from your fuel system and if your car has a large amount of build up, you could actually see a decrease on the first tank due to burning all the junk out. The rep told me that that it takes about 4 tanks to see the maximum benifet.

So far he was right. He also told me that I should change the fuel filter after I run 3-4 tanks through due to all the junk being cleanse out of the tank.

If it works so well, then why haven't the oil companies bought the company and disbanded it, as it is said about all the 100 mile per gallon carburetor inventions that they supposedly bought ????????? :stirpot:

They claim it has been in europe for 16 years. They apparently tried to sell it in the U.S. about 4 years ago but there wasn't much interest sense gas prices were relitively low at that time.

Remember, I said that I had it checked out before I put it in my car. - I didn't just fall off the boat last week! I have been a master auto technician for 24 years and my current job is to inspect failed engine parts to find the cause of the failure so I have access to the test lab and I know what to look for!

If you want to critise without first investigating, go right ahead but I did my homework and I know from first hand experiance that it works for me.

I don't really care if you use it or not, but with today's high gas prices, I just thought I would share the info with others sense it worked for me.

I get another 90 miles per tank now and I dont have to but premium. That translates to about a $700.00 savings per year for me at today's gas prices. And that is after I deduct the cost of the product!

It didn't knock when I used premium but it sure did when I used regular unleaded.
Then get your car fixed. Northstars don't knock on regular. You'll probably get even better mileage after the repair.

actually im also located here in michigan and my friend fredrick just started selling this product aswell. he also reports that it works well.

i am gonna get the first batch from him for free and test it out on my 00 psd wrecker, the 7.3 has to be the pickyist motor around and it gets horible mpg.

i will report back with what i find and if it seems to work or not..

Biggest joke I have heard about in long time.

"Top Secret Gas Pill"

Yeah dont let the word get out, someone might actually buy it. We wouldnt want that to happen now will we!

Where is the 100 percent money back gaurantee?

If I was offered a free trial, I would try it for sure. I have fuel records on my 04 Accord since day one. Currently there is 25k on it. I would definitely be able to see if, and how much of an improvement it offered. No way would I spend $75, just to see, without a money back guarantee.

As quoted from the website:

"How do the gas pills work?

The gas pills have the property of modifying the fuel’s molecular structure and liberating the energy contained within."

So I thought wow, why not replace my multi-vitamins with this stuff???

I have to tell you that not only did this eliminate my gas problem after eating a 12 oz rare filet and washing it down with 6 beers, but I lost 15 pounds in the first day!!! It really did liberate my energy that was contained within!

I'm sold and have ordered 10 cases of the stuff! :)

I know times are tough up in Michigan, but I didn't think anyone would try to peddle a scam like this...

The engine in my car was getting kind of limp. I dropped 2 Viagra tablets into the fuel tank and it straighten out.....:bigroll: :bigroll:

I would give them the benefit of the doubt and say it helps clean your engine and restore gas mileage. I'm not buying that it increases beyond the max efficiency of the engine and its original mileage capability.

Hey guys, it worked for him and he's an auto tech, and even had it checked out at the lab, so give it a break...

It's an interesting finding, no doubt, and something (at least similar) I saw talked about on the news a bit ago. Not magic, but a organic cleaner of sorts--and when previously gunky things are cleaned, efficiency increases.

I got a kick out of the fact that cboggs2 keeps referring to "they" and "their website" when in fact, it is his website the link points to as he is a distributor for the company. It doesn't surprise me that he would have glowing recommendations of a product that he is selling. I agree with EcSTSatic...the most that I think it will do is help clean the fuel system and resore already lost fuel economy.

Charles

Good catch Charles. :thumbsup: I suspected that from the begining.:tisk: No mechanic with 24 years expirience would be dumb enough to fall for a scam this obvious. :rolleyes:

My question would be, if he is a "master mechanic of 24 years", why is only driving a 97 Seville. I would imagine a "Master Mechanic" is probally looking at six figures or very high five figures a year, in which case he probally would be driving something newer.

Scam Humor . . . .

Good catch Charles. :thumbsup: I suspected that from the begining.:tisk: No mechanic with 24 years expirience would be dumb enough to fall for a scam this obvious. :rolleyes:
Correction: Master Auto Technician. OTOH, maybe there's a reason he's in the back room staring at connecting rods . . . .

Let's not be too hard on him though. Even Arthur C. Doyle, author of the Sherlock Holmes series, went to his grave firmly believing in fairies, ghosts, sceances and all sorts of other paranormal silliness. Even Nobel laureates have been taken in by the likes of the spoon-bending Uri Geller types.

This place is one of my homes. Flim-flam me on the street if you'd care to try, but don't come into my home and dare it.

Regards,
Warren

I got a kick out of the fact that cboggs2 keeps referring to "they" and "their website" when in fact, it is his website the link points to as he is a distributor for the company. It doesn't surprise me that he would have glowing recommendations of a product that he is selling. I agree with EcSTSatic...the most that I think it will do is help clean the fuel system and resore already lost fuel economy.

Charles

A sneaky attempt (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/current/predic.wav) to peddle junk to fellow drivers. Let's string him up! Just kidding! Good catch Chaz!

This reminds me of the GAS Saver Magnets you get 2 magnets and put them on your fuel line and you get better gas milage. $9.95

The EPA has tested all of this kind of stuf even the Tornado, synthetic oil and the only thing that increased MPH was a manifold spacer.

This reminds me of the GAS Saver Magnets you get 2 magnets and put them on your fuel line and you get better gas milage. $9.95
That's good news! Where can I buy one? Er, two . . . .

My question would be, if he is a "master mechanic of 24 years", why is only driving a 97 Seville. I would imagine a "Master Mechanic" is probally looking at six figures or very high five figures a year, in which case he probally would be driving something newer.

It's my work car. I drive over 100 miles a day just back and forth to work. I actually own 9 cars & trucks ranging in age from 1953 to 2002.

I'm just glad that I don't let myself fall into that Status attitude of having my selfworth tied up in what I own insead of who I am!

A sneaky attempt (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/current/predic.wav) to peddle junk to fellow drivers. Let's string him up! Just kidding! Good catch Chaz!

It is their website, I didn't have anything to do with it.

If you all think that this is a scam, just delete this thread!

I don't need to peddle junk to make money, I have been selling quality products in my own business for years. That is why I had it checked out first!

It is their website, I didn't have anything to do with it.
Note center top of website:

C.J. Distributing LLC ID# 7505364 cjboggs@charter.net .

I'll bet he's not 6'2" either. 6' 1 1/2" tops.

I ask the question again......... if the stuff is so good, then why haven't we heard about this product on the 6 o'clock news. Why hasn't it made the front pages of every paper in the nation? If it improved the national average just 1%, that would be hundred of thousands of gallons of fuel every day. However a skeptic I am, I intend to try it when I drive to New York to examine the bridge from New Jersey to Manhattan that I just purchased. I am a little financially strapped, so if anyone wants to buy a portion of the bridge, I am selling limited partnerships for $10 each. Please send cash, checks take too long to clear...... :stirpot:

[From WESH-TV, Orlando, FL]


Pain At The Pump: The Little Green Pill

POSTED: 3:43 pm EDT May 4, 2006
UPDATED: 12:39 pm EDT May 5, 2006
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ORLANDO, Fla. -- With the price of gas going sky high, a new product has hit the market. It's called BioPerformance Fuel, but most people just called it "the little green pill." It claims to save you big bucks on gas.The gas pill almost seems to have a cult following, WESH 2 News reported."Is this too good to be true? Are you running interference?" WESH 2 I-Team reporter Michelle Meredith asked the company's president, as he brushed by her.The pill inspires hundreds of wannabe millionaires to sing.

"And I'm proud to be an American," the group sang out.

According to BioPerformance, the company that sells the little green pill, drivers can just throw a couple in their gas tank and they'll see up to a 25 percent increase in their gas mileage.

With the price of fuel climbing higher and higher, who wouldn't want to squeeze another five miles out of every gallon? The appeal of the little green pill is mind-boggling. But what's really mind-boggling is the way the pill is sold. You won't find it on store shelves.

"We were going to develop the biggest and best network marketing company this industry has ever seen," BioPerformance president Lowell Mims said.

They're available only through multilevel marketing. Meet the unlikely company president. Mims is a pastor out of Dallas, and a multilevel marketing veteran.

"We knew it was going to be huge. Everybody say, 'Huge! Huge!'" he said.

Recently, when BioPerformance held a big pep rally in Orlando, the WESH 2 I-Team went undercover.

And Meredith said she can honestly say that she's never seen a happier, more excited bunch of people.

"Everybody say, 'I'm ready. I'm ready,'" Mims told the crowd.

They're excited because they believe in their product. From Orlando, Liz and Rocky Rothwell are on board.

"(What) the pill is doing to the gasoline is allowing more energy to get out so that you get better gas mileage," Liz Rothwell said.

"They're not schemers. They're very, very truthful people," Rocky Rothwell said.

Testimonials flowed like manna from heaven. In fact, the whole weekend had a religious feel. To hear them talk, the little green pill is the perfect package. They said it can save you money, save the planet, keeps money out of the Saudi's hands and it's "All American."

More importantly, they said they believe the product can make them millionaires. In fact, Mims' goal is to help 1,000 people become millionaires this year.

BioPerformance said the company is completely legit and talk openly about it in a presentation they call the "American Dream or Pyramid Scheme?"

But when Meredith approached Mims for an interview, he wasn't so open.

"Can I ask you some questions?" Meredith asked.

"You have to get a disclosure form, a disclosure form you have to fill out with Doc Fog, but thank you," he said.

In fact, Mims couldn't get away from her fast enough.

"For hours, we've been hearing you have nothing to hide. So, why can't you talk to me right now?" she said.

"We have to legally make sure everything is covered so you all won't hurt our company," Mims said.

One of his followers even acted as his bodyguard and stopped Meredith from getting on the escalator.

"You're going to block me?" she said.Meredith tried talking to other BioPerformance heavyweights.

"This is an interview?" one person asked.

"Yes," Meredith said.

"No thanks. I got to go. I got a dinner thing going on right now," he said.

She felt as about welcome as a wet dog at a wedding.

"I have to say, for a company that says they have nothing to hide, everyone walks away from us," Meredith said.

Why are they running? Maybe the answer is printed on the bottle. In tiny print is a bizarre disclaimer. "BioPerformance, Inc., doesn't guarantee anyone any results," it says.

Little Green Pill Put To Test

So to get to the bottom of the little green pill, we enlisted the help of two experts at the University of Central Florida. Dr. Kevin Belfield, the head of chemistry department, was brought on board to find out what's in the pill.

And to find out if the little green pill works, we recruited Dr. Bob Hoekstra. His lab at UCF tests race car engines.

Hoekstra's plan was very straightforward. We took our car to a shop called KDK Performance and strapped our minivan to what's essentially a treadmill for cars.

Hoekstra put in a very measured amount of plain old regular unleaded gas, and then ran the engine at approximately 70 mph. We did this over and over again until we got a baseline. The minivan runs out of gas after about 10 minutes.

To prove BioPerformance's claim, the little green pill needs to run that motor 25 percent longer.

"We should go about 12 ½ minutes," Hoekstra said.

But there's a catch. Before we can test the little green pill, first, we have to feed our minivan a bunch of pills, according to the directions you get online. You are supposed to give your car a "boostershot" -- feed your gas tank double the number of pills normally needed.

So before we see any results, we need to burn four tanks of gas.

While we're burning those miles, Dr. Belfield and his UCF students made an interesting discovery.

"It smells like mothballs," Meredith said.

Decades ago, mothballs were made of a chemical called naphthalene. So they tested the pill, and bingo.

''Naphthalene?" Meredith asked.

"Naphthalene. That's right," Belfield said.

It's almost 100 percent; the rest is coloring.

"You have a little graph and everything?" Meredith asked Belfield.

On his graph, a red line represented the chemical naphthalene, and a black line represented the little green pill. They matched.

"The two spectra are identical," Belfield said.

What's more, on the bottle, BioPerformance claims the little green pill is "non toxic" but naphthalene is toxic. In fact, decades ago, children died after eating mothballs made of naphthalene. It even has links to cancer.

"One can inhale it, one can ingest it and one can have it absorbed through the skin, and those all very detrimental effects," Belfield said.

One thousand miles later, we were back on the treadmill. Hoekstra crushed a little green pill, dissolved it in the gas and then poured the same measured amount in the minivan time and time again.

We came out with basically the same results as before.

"There is no difference in mileage whatsoever," Hoekstra said.

The little green pill was a bust.

"Bottom line?" Meredith asked Hoekstra.

"You're throwing your money away," he said. "It simply does not work."

Maybe that's why the president of BioPerformance is a man on the run. He's a man who runs from reporters who question the little green pill.

"Is this too good to be true? Are you running interference?" Meredith asked him.

"We have to protect ourselves. Like Barbara Bush says, we have to watch you all like the plague," Mims said.

During the gas crisis of the 1970s, some people put mothballs in their tanks to try and save money, and it did not work then and it does not work now.

Something else that does not work are the phones at BioPerformance. Every number Meredith called was either disconnected or went right to voicemail.

To comment on this story, send an e-mail to Michelle Meredith (mmeredith@hearst.com).

Link to the Story:
http://www.wesh.com/painatthepump/9161874/detail.html#

If you all think that this is a scam, just delete this thread!


I will, after it runs it's coarse and everyone sees you for what you are...... a snake oil salesman.

I will, after it runs it's coarse and everyone sees you for what you are...... a snake oil salesman.
Let's not be too quick with that DELETE button, Ranger. There may yet be a few chuckles to be had here . . . .

Besides, the longer this thread remains up, the longer those web bots will have to scavenge his mail address. Think of all the interesting email he is going to begin receiving shortly. Fitting, eh? And self inflicted. :bigroll:

Regards,
Warren

I drive 57 miles one way to work every day so I considered one of those econo boxes but I am 6'2" and I just don’t fit in them. So last July I picked up a Cadillac Seville and I was surprised at how well it does on fuel. If I set the cruise at 65mph, I can get 29 mpg from a V-8.

Recently I ran across a product called Bio Performance Fuel additive. All I do is drop a couple of pills into the tank before I fill up and i can now get over 34 mpg at 65 mph. I have gained over 5 mpg and a considerable increase in performance. In fact, I no longer need to use premiun becaust the spark knock is gone when I use this stuff.

I know it sounds like a "Snake oil" product. In fact I wouldn't use it in my car until after I took it to the chem. lab at work and had them test it to make sure it wouldn't damage anything in my car.

They told me that it was all organic and non caustic so I tried it and I was surprised that it actually worked.

A friend of mine put it in his Dodge/Cummins pick up and he said he got a 37% increase in fuel mileage. (They say it works better in diesels).

I thought you might want to check into it. Their website is: http://www.cjd.mybpbiz.com/index.asp?pgid=3 (http://www.cjd.mybpbiz.com/index.asp?pgid=3)

It's worth a look.

"...I know it sounds like a "Snake oil" product..."

It IS a snake oil product. An idiot friend of mine bought it and neither his Econoline nor his Lincoln Continental got any better mileage. No change at all.

Imagine if you combined the little green pill, the tornado, and the magnets! Our Caddy's would be getting over 50mpg. Take that Toyota Prius.

Imagine if you combined the little green pill, the tornado, and the magnets! Our Caddy's would be getting over 50mpg. Take that Toyota Prius.
Throw in a couple of Hybrid Stickers and it'll push that baby over 70mpg. :thumbsup: :alchi:

I'd keep this thread up so potential "victims" will hopefully read these posts before buying the repackaged "Herbal Life" for autos! LOL!

Throw in a couple of Hybrid Stickers and it'll push that baby over 70mpg. :thumbsup: :alchi:

What if I put in like 10 pills and put on 10 magnets????? Would I get like 200mpg?????:thepan: :stirpot:

I would fill up once a month:bighead:

What if I put in like 10 pills and put on 10 magnets????? Would I get like 200mpg?????:thepan: :stirpot:

I would fill up once a month:bighead:

You would be making the gasoline in the tank actually grow, and you would need to be siphoning the tank and giving it away to friends. If you install one of those 100 MPG carburators, then you could drive around the world in 80 days with 80 gallons of gasoline... :stirpot:

I thought the world was 16,000 miles around not 80,000?? Lol but hey maybe they got something I can put in my gastank that makes my car drive under water too:D

notice this jackass is nowhere to be seen

Hee Hee

((( Lemme know when the Florida swamp land is for sale . . . . )))

They never stopped selling it. Go on down and sign the papers

Interesting thread but I think that it is lounge material now... moved.

[From WESH-TV, Orlando, FL]


Pain At The Pump: The Little Green Pill



Interesting story but I should point out as others here have, I can take up to 4 full tanks to receive best results. This story says that they tried it sevseal times with a small amount of gas and then decided to drive it 1000 miles and test it again.

Most minivans get aroubd 450-500 miles to a tank so they are telling you that they did not follow the directions when they made this report. They only used it for 2 tanks.

There is a reason why you need to run 4 tanks to get the maximum increase. The enzymes in this product actually clean the film off the inside of your gas tank and other fuel system components. While this is going on, you may even see a slight decrease in mileage because you are burning all of the deposits along with the fuel. I have even seen cases where the fuel filter has been plugged up with that junk on higher mileage cars. But in every case, when they had run the 4 tank cycle and changed the filter, they all reported an increase in mileage.

That is why it says "FOLLOW THESE IMPORTANT INSTRUCTIONS WHEN USING THE PRODUCT" on the website and the bottle.

notice this jackass is nowhere to be seen

I'm not hiding from you, I just have a life beyond this computer.

If you want to sell something through this website you have to become a supporting vendor. If you try to do this again and you lie about who you really are again you will be banned.