View Full Version : Making A CTS Faster..Volume 1 Kaliwest84 04-26-06, 03:36 PM Aigh..ive ordered my volant intake..what next? i will order an exhaust system but not yet..what else can i add to my 3.2L CTS to make it faster?
Heres the question...
"What can we, or would we add to our CTS's to make it faster?" :stirpot: AznPrydeRegalRyde 04-26-06, 04:21 PM Besides exhuast and Intake? CMS might make headers. Thats it.
The only other way to get speed from a 3.2L would be getting rid of some weight. TagApl4 04-26-06, 04:43 PM Besides exhuast and Intake? CMS might make headers. Thats it.
The only other way to get speed from a 3.2L would be getting rid of some weight.
What about a 3.6L does that give you more options? CTS4Chiefy 04-26-06, 05:43 PM What are the options for the CTS for weigh loss besides taking out all the luxo items, etc... do they make GOOD QUALITY (not crap like you see on alotta modified cars) CF body parts or aluminum body parts? What else?
Also, for the 3.6 (auto)... besides the I/H/E setup... what else? Cams? What? kali_cts03 04-26-06, 05:47 PM What are the options for the CTS for weigh loss...............
You can take out the spear tire, and hope you will never need it... other then that some posted a while back you can go as far as taking out your seats to make the weight drop.... :eek:
Other then that maybe others will have better suggestions for U...:rolleyes: CTS4Chiefy 04-26-06, 05:48 PM haha, ya, besides the luxo items... that'd include the nice leather seats and what not. Heh. After all, if we wanted a 2-seater, we woulda gotten a used Vette. lol AznPrydeRegalRyde 04-26-06, 06:24 PM What about a 3.6L does that give you more options?No. Same situation ChicagoCTS32 04-26-06, 06:24 PM There isn't enough market for performance items for the CTS... Intake, exhaust, headers, that's about it. You can get headers made at an exhaust shop for less than the CMS ones supposedly. The other option is a Turbo setup, but you're looking at $7k +. Kael knows more about this than I. ChicagoCTS32 04-26-06, 06:25 PM No. Same s
but you start out at 35hp higher than the 3.2L AznPrydeRegalRyde 04-26-06, 06:35 PM What are the options for the CTS for weigh loss besides taking out all the luxo items, etc... do they make GOOD QUALITY (not crap like you see on alotta modified cars) CF body parts or aluminum body parts? What else?
Also, for the 3.6 (auto)... besides the I/H/E setup... what else? Cams? What?Cams...no. None from the vendors. There are very few mods for any CTS (non-V) as the market is still fairly small, and none of the present companies have cracked the ECU...yet.
Weight loss? Everything in the trunk, including wheel, carpet,etc. Rear seat, HVAC, radio, all speakers, rear air bags, everything in the rear compartment for that matter... You could easily get rid of 200 lbs.
If you are willing to spend the money on CF body parts, the first thing you should do is go to an extremely light 17" or 18" wheel, and light brake rotors. dkozloski 04-26-06, 06:40 PM Your money would be best spent trading for a CTS-V. CTS4Chiefy 04-26-06, 06:41 PM Weight loss? Everything in the trunk, including wheel, carpet,etc. Rear seat, HVAC, radio, all speakers, rear air bags, everything in the rear compartment for that matter... You could easily get rid of 200 lbs.
If you are willing to spend the money on CF body parts, the first thing you should do is go to an extremely light 17" or 18" wheel, and light brake rotors.
I'd consider the carpeting in the truck and spare tire, but none of that other stuff is gonna be taken out. Dang, that sucks. FastCTS 04-26-06, 08:56 PM You can ask your other half to lose some weight, but then you will have to sleep alone. :) SoCadillac 04-26-06, 09:01 PM The simple answer: http://www.bondurant.com/ ChicagoCTS32 04-26-06, 09:16 PM The simple answer: http://www.bondurant.com/
That would be awesome... maybe I can do that for my honeymoon...:bouncy: for the 3.2...
I would start looking to alfa romeo (hint hint) AznPrydeRegalRyde 04-27-06, 03:43 PM Your money would be best spent trading for a CTS-V. Not if you wanted to do all this to a 3.6L. AznPrydeRegalRyde 04-27-06, 03:46 PM The simple answer: http://www.bondurant.com/
I attended this school a couple summers ago. Mostly different vehicles there then, tho. Ilyesha 04-27-06, 05:46 PM Hmm, drop in the CTS-V engine! That oughtta cover it. TCSisOFF 04-27-06, 07:10 PM If you're willing to drive, I've got the only 3.2L dyno-tuned CTS that I know of.. if you have the $$$, I can dyno-tune yours. AznPrydeRegalRyde 04-27-06, 07:11 PM How about this? A 240 hp 3.6L outta the Buick LaCrosse driving the front wheels along with the 255 hp 3.6L from our car driving the rear wheels.
Give ya 240 more hp, and add AWD. :thumbsup: And with you getting more power from the rear wheels, it would be like a 40/60 torque split :) :) :) ChicagoCTS32 04-27-06, 09:25 PM If you're willing to drive, I've got the only 3.2L dyno-tuned CTS that I know of.. if you have the $$$, I can dyno-tune yours.
And he comes out of the woodwork... Care to expand on your "dyno-tune"? Nobody really knows how to do that and it's quite surprising that you have the "only" one. RobertCTS 04-28-06, 08:22 AM Dyno-tune?! Tell me more before I drive to your place.:rolleyes:
Some of the newer members may not know but CMS has been testing an Electrical Supercharger. It doesn't operate all the time but when needed provides a nice boost for about 15 seconds. That's more than enough for the drag strip or the streets. CMS has been testing it for over a year. They have destoyer several differentials doing so. Pete won't release it until those problems are solved. Here's the old thread:
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-forum/31473-2300-custom-built-6-psi-centrifigual.html?highlight=%242300 TagApl4 04-28-06, 08:38 AM How about this? A 240 hp 3.6L outta the Buick LaCrosse driving the front wheels along with the 255 hp 3.6L from our car driving the rear wheels.
Give ya 240 more hp, and add AWD. :thumbsup: And with you getting more power from the rear wheels, it would be like a 40/60 torque split :) :) :)
and all that weight reduction will be useless RobertCTS 04-28-06, 08:49 AM and all that weight reduction will be useless
Here's some tips on making your CTS lighter. This is an '03 3.2!:D
http://usera.imagecave.com/BobsWork/ctsstripped.jpg BishopRuger 04-28-06, 08:56 AM Your money would be best spent trading for a CTS-V.
:yeah:
With all the money u need to spend to make the CTS into a nice speedy car might as well save all that as a nice downpayment & trade in the 3.2 or 3.6 for a new or used V. That's probably what I'm going to try and do later this yr or early next. -=cough=- shameless CMS plug from a long dead thread and currently availble product -=cough cough=-
(well it sounded funny at first) for ruger:
or go and buy and ls2 out of a wrecked corvette gen 5, an 05 or up gto and then drop it in and have an automatic with v-8 AznPrydeRegalRyde 04-28-06, 12:18 PM and all that weight reduction will be uselessIf by useless, you mean the best time to do some weight reduction, then yes, you are correct. SoCadillac 04-28-06, 12:36 PM Until someone produces the magic bullet and cracks the ECU, there is no way to determine whether any modifications are reaching their potential. The ECU as complex as it is still has a set of parameters that it can play within--it is not the magic box that can compensate for everything thrown at it.
As owners start getting into the more complex areas such as headers, and the like, they will not receive their full benefit until the engine can be set within the parameters to gain said benefit. Beyond all that it would be interesting to take SDMarine's engine apart and see how well it is doing internally after what he's done to it--that the real test and what professional engine builders do all the time to learn just what affects their modifications are not only providing for engine performance, but also for engine internals.
Bottom line: No cracked ECU equals crapshoot on aftermarket and engine longevity. TagApl4 04-28-06, 01:21 PM What about those diagnostic tuners that manipulate your ECU to boost HP, do they have that for our cars? TagApl4 04-28-06, 01:23 PM Post #25 would probably blow the doors off anything on the track. :burn: SoCadillac 04-28-06, 01:24 PM What about those diagnostic tuners that manipulate your ECU to boost HP, do they have that for our cars?
Unfortunately, at this time, no. ChicagoCTS32 04-28-06, 01:35 PM TCSisOFF has cracked the ECU and "dyno-tuned" his car... too bad he won't tell anybody about it and is probably probably falsifying information.
this is post #20...
edit* switched "lying" to "probably falsifying information" RobertCTS 04-28-06, 01:39 PM TCSisOFF has cracked the ECU and "dyno-tuned" his car... too bad he won't tell anybody about it and is probably lying.
this is post #20...
We're not allowed to say lie. Use this.:lies: TagApl4 04-28-06, 02:16 PM If you're willing to drive, I've got the only 3.2L dyno-tuned CTS that I know of.. if you have the $$$, I can dyno-tune yours.
How much money are you talking about and what will you do/change? RobertCTS 04-28-06, 02:22 PM How much money are you talking about and what will you do/change?
I think we embarrassed him and he's hiding. Send him a PM.:) AznPrydeRegalRyde 04-28-06, 06:28 PM If you're willing to drive, I've got the only 3.2L dyno-tuned CTS that I know of.. if you have the $$$, I can dyno-tune yours.
Sounds like BS to me. You obviously know how you could make a load of cash of of this tune, if you were to sell your services, right? You could easily have 2 dozen people buying from you if it was true.
If it is true, why not help the community out? And make ALOT of money off it as well?
Seriously, you'd go down in history, the first person to supply tuning info for the CTS, the car that struck change at GM. numbbers 04-28-06, 07:34 PM Anybody tried messing with gear ratios? AznPrydeRegalRyde 04-28-06, 07:44 PM Anybody tried messing with gear ratios?caddy kind of did this....
The 2003 MT 5spd had 3.73 rear end, where as every other cts has 3.43's, and makes it pretty quick off the line. Ryan's '05-V 04-28-06, 09:42 PM I just thought I would browse the CTS board and saw this and have to second the motion to go for the simple mods because if you really want more power, pick up a shitty V that will have the rear die on you multiple times.
Sorry, seriously, my V has had it's issues but I love the car and want to mod the heck out of it but it's a lease and i just don't have the extra cash to throw around.
Good luck juicing her up. | |