ZUP. a lot of you are talking about dropping their vehicle at mcgauphys. whats a 3/5 drop and whats a 2/3 drop? how many kinds of different drops are there? and what do the numbers mean? thanks.

Refers to the amount of drop. 3/5 means 3" drop front, 5" drop rear, etc.

Usually, a drop in the front of 2" means a spindle change is optional. Anthing more needs it.

To change the spindle, means your not limiting the spring travel as much as just putting in a torsion key, or shorter spring.

The rear, can probably tolerate 2" drop without much mods, but 3" or more usually includes some shock adapter (so it doesn't bottom out), and for Escalades, something that keeps the ride level sensor from pumping your ass end back up.

I really haven't seen any 2" rear drop kits, but you can order factory springs that were designed for the Tahoe's which didn't have 3rd row seating, and get an inch of drop (pre '07). On pre '07's, you can crank the bolt on the torsion spring a bit to get maybe an inch or so lower ride in the front.

I am looking into a (minimum (2/3 or 2/2?) drop with my new '07, but have heard mixed reviews about the ride quality. For the short term, I've already moved my Ride Level sensor over a notch so that it allows some relaxation in the rear ride height.

It made enough difference that I had to tweak my headlights down a bit to keep oncoming traffic from flashing me.

Dave

Refers to the amount of drop. 3/5 means 3" drop front, 5" drop rear, etc.

Usually, a drop in the front of 2" means a spindle change is optional. Anthing more needs it.

To change the spindle, means your not limiting the spring travel as much as just putting in a torsion key, or shorter spring.

The rear, can probably tolerate 2" drop without much mods, but 3" or more usually includes some shock adapter (so it doesn't bottom out), and for Escalades, something that keeps the ride level sensor from pumping your ass end back up.

I really haven't seen any 2" rear drop kits, but you can order factory springs that were designed for the Tahoe's which didn't have 3rd row seating, and get an inch of drop (pre '07). On pre '07's, you can crank the bolt on the torsion spring a bit to get maybe an inch or so lower ride in the front.

I am looking into a (minimum (2/3 or 2/2?) drop with my new '07, but have heard mixed reviews about the ride quality. For the short term, I've already moved my Ride Level sensor over a notch so that it allows some relaxation in the rear ride height.

It made enough difference that I had to tweak my headlights down a bit to keep oncoming traffic from flashing me.

Dave

wow, thanks a lot. so i guess people also lower their car at the rear more because the escalade, like most vehicles is lifted at the back, making it look asymetric, is it? ive noticed this particularly on the new 07 escalade and i dont like how it looks that way, so is this a good way to get it even? thanks.

For the short term, I've already moved my Ride Level sensor over a notch so that it allows some relaxation in the rear ride height.

It made enough difference that I had to tweak my headlights down a bit to keep oncoming traffic from flashing me.

Dave

How did/do you change the Ride Level sensor on the 2007 Escalade? Did it have any affect on ride quality? Finally, can you notice a difference in the wheel-to-fendor gap?

i was unaware you could adjust the height of the 07, through a sensor

In response to the questions regarding the ride level sensor, it's pretty simple to mess with, but without a real drop kit, the difference is not drastic.

What it did for me was keep the rear from going higher than the springs alone. I'm thinking the factory adjustment wasn't too good, because with an empty fuel tank, 3rd row removed, when I started it, the air pumps would kick in and move the rear up maybe a 1/4 inch. Very small amount, but unnecessary. With the seats back in, and full tank, on startup, maybe an inch.

The sensor is located on the upper axle arm, with the sensor attached to the frame. There is this little clamp on the arm itself, and it pushes a little rod up/down based on the wheel load. If you jack your truck up by the frame, not the axle, you will see the mechanism right inside the wheel well, just above and forward the top of the tire.

I simply moved the pivot point further away from the sensor, which fools the sensor to believe the rear is raised higher than it really is. It then lets OUT air and allows the weight to fully rest on the springs. If you disconnect this altogether, the computer throws an error.

I will probably have to adjust this when I hook up the boat, so that the ride levels properly with the extra 400 lbs on the hitch.

Is it noticable? Nothing like a 3" drop. But for free, every inch helps.

On my '05 Denali, the ride was adjusted properly, so I didn't have to tweak it. On my '01 Denali, I had to do the same thing, 'cause it looked like a stink-bug.

Dave

I found a little graphic that shows the sensor. The purple portion is the axle arm (really a control arm). The little blue thing is the sensor, and is on the frame.

What I moved was a little clamp on the control arm. In the '07, there are bumps, and two holes to attach to. I moved the bracket closer to the sensor, but moved the shaft to the hole away from the sensor. This was enough to make the sensor believe the ride is level.