: Last pictures of the '79.....



Night Wolf
03-10-06, 02:51 AM
nearly 3 weeks old... I never got around to posting them....

after she was loaded up at the body shop....

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/accident/2001_0107/PDR_1190.JPG

:(

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/accident/2001_0107/PDR_1191.JPG

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/accident/2001_0107/PDR_1192.JPG

nearly brought a tear to my eye....

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/accident/2001_0107/PDR_1195.JPG

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/accident/2001_0107/PDR_1198.JPG

After I removed the must have things I wanted...

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/accident/2001_0107/PDR_1200.JPG

My brand new, expensive battery was wedged in there, but, for the most part, unharmed..... had to get a little crafty to get it out. That battery is now in the Coupe as the old battery in there (2 years old) was very, very weak.

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/accident/2001_0107/PDR_1203.JPG

more damage

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/accident/2001_0107/PDR_1204.JPG

Night Wolf
03-10-06, 02:51 AM
whole front got pushed alot... notice the sheared off metal from the bolt.

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/accident/2001_0107/PDR_1205.JPG

hard to see, but the chrome trim around the bumper actually got sliced in 2 as the bumper got pushed back

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/accident/2001_0107/PDR_1206.JPG

pulled the tail lights and the \/ from the trunk for the hell of it..... this was right before I left... never to see my '79 again.

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/accident/2001_0107/PDR_1207.JPG

I took both of my Silver Star low/high beams (outter lights) as they were good.... I later went back to pick up the 4 wheels/tires (they removed them for me)

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/accident/2001_0107/PDR_1208.JPG

The very last picture of the '79 I have:

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/accident/2001_0107/PDR_1209.JPG

It dosn't "look" all that bad... but becuase the whole front got pushed sideways to the left... it bent alot of stuff up... the frame was smashed into the tire, preventing it from turning. The roof was buckled, the driver door was hitting the rear door and the passenger door was kinda pull out a bit... it was too far gone to try and fix... damnit tho I miss that car, it was an amazing car.

1979 Sedan DeVille d'Elegance. Laramie Beige with Ceder Red interior. Mint.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-10-06, 02:52 AM
Sad stuff man, but just think how much better that 68 with the 375 horse 472 will be!

brougham_geezer
03-10-06, 03:16 AM
That must've been quite an impact. Glad that you're ok. I wasn't aware your beauty had crashed. Somehow must've missed the story. What exactley did you hit? I'm sure it didn't fare as well!

That's too bad. Sorry to see this pics. Keep going strong with your other Caddy though!

Night Wolf
03-10-06, 03:27 AM
original thread:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-forums-lounge/65454-my-car-totaled.html

pimpridein
03-10-06, 10:41 AM
Sorry to see what happened but you should have pulled all that sheetmetal off . It wasn't as bad as it seems. A good frame man could have had that pulled around and straight in no time. Again sorry for your lose .

Night Wolf
03-10-06, 11:49 AM
Sorry to see what happened but you should have pulled all that sheetmetal off . It wasn't as bad as it seems. A good frame man could have had that pulled around and straight in no time. Again sorry for your lose .

When I saw the roof buckled, the frame smashed into the tire and the steering box trashed...

Well, for the cost of strightening the frame, buying new stuff and then getting all that painted.... and just getting the car in similar shape it was in...

would be nearly $2,000-$3,000. Look at '79's on ebay, $3,000 will buy a mint low mileage car.... Mine was going to need work... paint job, new vinyl top, steering and suspension stuff was worn, well just old.... cracked bushings etc.... and would need replacement etc...

taz600
03-10-06, 01:13 PM
sorry that happend to your caddy she was beautiful. by chance do the tail lights fit a 80 deville and would u be interseted in selling them if so?

CaddymanTom
03-10-06, 02:51 PM
Man those pictures really depressed me. Your 79 was one of my favorites on here and I have read nearly every post you wrote on it so I know you spent alot of time getting into the wonderful condtion it was in. I think this is just the way things happen sometimes. I know that there is another one out there waiting for you to bring back to life as you did with this one. IMHO that car saved you from a whole lot of hurt.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-10-06, 03:07 PM
Yeah I guess its probably a good thing you were in that tank. If you were in the '93 or '89, it probably wouldnt have done such a good job of protecting you. But again, the '93 has an airbag, so that would have helped.

Night Wolf
03-10-06, 04:19 PM
I don't think the airbag would have done anything. I never hit the steering wheel, and my sore neck (still) is from the sideways impact, not the head on impact.... airbag really wouldn't have done much except probably cause more injuries and scare the hell outta me....

Yeah, that '79 was very clean.... its amazing what rubbing compound, new wheels/tires and pin striping can do for the car....

Here she was trhe day after I got her.... this is what I started with.... $300.

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/door/PDR_0587.JPG

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/door/PDR_0588.JPG

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/door/PDR_0589.JPG

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/door/PDR_0590.JPG

This was the end result..... minimal amount of money was spent on this car.... the most money spent at one time was $260 to get the left rear door repainted due to surface rust.... well, that freshly painted nice door is now sitting in some junkyard :(.

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/79-2.JPG

I will get another. Not sure when, but it'll happen :).

KaddyKat
03-10-06, 04:27 PM
man that hurts, you should have sold it for parts on this forum.
It was a beautiful car

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-10-06, 05:01 PM
I will get another. Not sure when, but it'll happen :).


Another '79? I thought you wanted a '68..

Lord Cadillac
03-10-06, 05:04 PM
Damn.. One less old Caddy on the road... I hope you do find another.. It's us fanatics that should own cars like that.. Nobody else cares about 'em enough...

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-10-06, 05:19 PM
It's us fanatics that should own cars like that.. Nobody else cares about 'em enough...

Yeah I can remember when I was younger before I was REALLY into Caddies, I thought the '70s and '80s Broughams were old relics and dinosaurs, but I still had a slight admiration for them, but back then I was really into the late '50s Chryslers. Now that I've gotten older, I really love the '70s luxury sedans, and don't like the '50s cars as much.

Jonas McFeely
03-10-06, 06:55 PM
Truely a sad story.It for real makes me feel bad to see that.I know how much i love my Brougham,and if anything like that were to happen to it,i would be crushed.My condolances and good luck with getting something else.

CoupeDevilleRob
03-10-06, 07:57 PM
Looking at those pictures makes me sick, it really sucks what happened. Me personally, I wouldn't have even taken pictures of it, I'd never want to see the car like that again. I would only want to remember it in its prime. When my car got rear ended by the flat bed truck idiot my dad took pictures of the damage. It really wasn't that bad, the bumper took most of the damage (those bumpers are awesome), but I threw them out after the car got fixed and everything was settled. I have no desire to ever see my car look like that.

Jonas McFeely
03-10-06, 08:47 PM
Looking at those pictures makes me sick, it really sucks what happened. Me personally, I wouldn't have even taken pictures of it, I'd never want to see the car like that again. I would only want to remember it in its prime. When my car got rear ended by the flat bed truck idiot my dad took pictures of the damage. It really wasn't that bad, the bumper took most of the damage (those bumpers are awesome), but I threw them out after the car got fixed and everything was settled. I have no desire to ever see my car look like that.


I hear on the bumpers thing.I got rear ended by an F-150 while sitting at a stop light.He was doing about 25mph i think and didnt even hit the brakes.Sent me into a ford escort,and the escort hit an F-250,4 car pile up,and i didnt have one scratch on the trunk or fenders or anywhere,the front and rear bumpers absorbed ALL of the impact.Amazing.

Destroyer
03-10-06, 11:56 PM
fug it, its just a car right? At least you are ok. I own 5 cars, my Fleetwood technically being at the bottom of the pile value-wise and I can honestly say I wouldn't make such a big deal if all my cars were to be destroyed tonight cause they would be replaced tomorrow. Seriously, was this pile of metal really that important to you that you would follow the tow truck?:thepan: :alchi:

CadiJeff
03-11-06, 12:12 AM
there is a sweet looking 1981 diesel fleetwood brougham coupe for sale on this forum if you like diesels anyway

Night Wolf
03-11-06, 12:39 AM
fug it, its just a car right? At least you are ok. I own 5 cars, my Fleetwood technically being at the bottom of the pile value-wise and I can honestly say I wouldn't make such a big deal if all my cars were to be destroyed tonight cause they would be replaced tomorrow. Seriously, was this pile of metal really that important to you that you would follow the tow truck?:thepan: :alchi:

I followed the pile of metal from the body shop to the salvage yard that I brought it to, to remove various smaller piles of metal from it. Like my freshly rebuilt Qudra-jet, rebuilt AC compressor, modifed '68 472 intake manifold, brand new battery and some other things.

'68 or '79... I will own both within time....which will I have first? it depends on what comes my way. The '68 will be a fun classic that I'll build up with power.... the '79 was flat out amazing on the highway, and a better suited car for highway crusing then a '68.... alot of modern features standard, and, IMO a really nice interior. The '79 would be a highway travel car, keep the 425 and the 2.28 gears, go with the RV/gas saver cam and adapt the V8-6-4 goodies on it... thats what I was going to do with my '79 before the 500 build up (well, just swap the cam) and get ~22+mpg.

I can't even start to explain how freakin amazing that car was on the open road.... the Coupe just dosn't come close.... that car was just.... made for it...

To some people a car is a mode of transportation... to others it is more... ALOT more. That car ment ALOT to me... It is hard to explain it. While it did have its flaws, it was a solid 20-footer, as shown by the pics. I could wax it up and take it to car shows and be proud to show it... yeah it had issues, but it was a 27 year old daily driver. You don't know how.... flat out annoying it is to be so into cars, and not have a car worthy of being cleaned up and brought to a show.... not saying the Coupe isn't worthy, but the paint job is getting so bad form the clear coat fading, that there is just no use.... it really bugs me, and at the same time I don't have the money for a repaint.

The '79 was wierd... I never treated it as a classic in alot of aspects, it was more like a sweet daily driver... it never once failed me at all. I put about 9,000 miles on hr in a bit less then 2 years. so many little things on that car were just flat out cool.... the high beam switch on the floor, the high beam indicator was a wreath instead of the light beam. I loved how the shift cluster said Park, R, N, *Drive* , Low. That was just cool.... lots of little things.

The '79... wasn't the biggest classic Caddy, wasn't the largest engine, not the fastest, not the most powerful, not the best ride etc.... but I must say, it didn't fall short anywhere, it was between average-above average in all aspects... a huge factor is the interior, which really brought the car up a couple steps from the eailer models. It handled surprisingly well for its size, it rode nice, got decent MPG, lots of power... it was just a well rounded package, that I didn't realize how great it was until its gone.... actually, I realised it that night of the crash... I just kept thinking how much I really liked the car (while driving it before the accident) and how cool it was.... I was looking forward to replacing the spark plugs and wires even though there were fairly new, I was just looking for stuff to do on it.... That whole night I was just taking it easy, never ran it wide open once.... just had my MP3 player listening to some favorite songs and driving.... who would have thought...

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-11-06, 01:19 AM
That just goes to show that you never know what will happen. I could wake up, go to work tomorrow and get rear ended...you never know.. I could wake up go to work, and meet the woman I'll marry...you never know.

Jonas McFeely
03-11-06, 12:39 PM
fug it, its just a car right? At least you are ok. I own 5 cars, my Fleetwood technically being at the bottom of the pile value-wise and I can honestly say I wouldn't make such a big deal if all my cars were to be destroyed tonight cause they would be replaced tomorrow. Seriously, was this pile of metal really that important to you that you would follow the tow truck?:thepan: :alchi:

For you to say "its just a car right?" and post on these forums is rediculous.Im pretty sure most of the people on here are totally in love with their cars and have a special relationship with it.I talk to my car sometimes.Im looking at it as i type,and am admiring its beauty.Yeah,its maybe only worth a couple thousand if that,but it means more to me than almost anything,definatly more than anything meterial i have,only thing that comes before it are friends and family,though i consider it family.I can understand why he followed it to the junk yard,i would have done the same.One to get the parts i wanted,and two to say good bye to it,because it would be the last time you'll ever see it.

It sounds like you have tons of money(or at least say you do).I guess you dont dont care about what you drive because you could just "replace it the next day".Not all of us are as fortunate as you and your ability to throw cars away.For me,and i think i speak for alot of the people on here,really love their cars,and would be crushed if they got totalled.For me its not as simple as just replacing the car.Im sure i may be able to find another sage green Brougham somewhere,though it would be VERY hard.But it would not be the same,because it wouldnt be the same car.It would have a different personality.

Alot of what i said sounds insane,especially to someone who doesnt understand cars.

Destroyer
03-11-06, 04:29 PM
For you to say "its just a car right?" and post on these forums is rediculous.Im pretty sure most of the people on here are totally in love with their cars and have a special relationship with it.I talk to my car sometimes.Im looking at it as i type,and am admiring its beauty.

Im sure i may be able to find another sage green Brougham somewhere,though it would be VERY hard.But it would not be the same,because it wouldnt be the same car.It would have a different personality.

Alot of what i said sounds insane,especially to someone who doesnt understand cars.I understand cars, I've been through about 150 of them. I understand the joy of owning something you like. I also understand that they are not living things. Nightwolf is a cool guy, I'm not trying to insult him, just telling him I think the important thing here is that he made out ok and the car is EASY to replace and to simply move on.

You talk to your car and have a special relationship with it and admire its beauty? You need to have your head checked bro. Do you do the same with your toaster or refrigerator? They share some components with cars as well.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-11-06, 04:57 PM
You talk to your car and have a special relationship with it and admire its beauty?

I admire my car's beauty, I think everyone should have a car they enjoy looking at.

CaddymanTom
03-11-06, 06:10 PM
I think we all have memories of the cars we have owned and the cars others in your family have owned and it takes a lot of work to keep these cars up and running and looking the best they can. Destoyer has no regard for others feelings. Nightwolf put alot into that car. Yes we are very grateful that he is ok, but it is a damn shame is 79 is gone. I have no respect for people that brag about the how many "pieces of metal" they have owned. It bores me! I think it is too bad that you consider your cars house hold appliances. It explains why you have owned so many :mad:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-11-06, 06:38 PM
I think it is too bad that you consider your cars house hold appliances. It explains why you have owned so many :mad:

Maybe he buys em up, fixes them and sells them for profit....

Either way, a car isnt an appliance unless its a cheap commuter car. A luxury car is most certainly not an appliance, people who treat their Cadillacs like an appliance and just beat on them make me sick. But Destroyer doesnt do that.

Jonas McFeely
03-11-06, 07:27 PM
I understand cars, I've been through about 150 of them. I understand the joy of owning something you like. I also understand that they are not living things. Nightwolf is a cool guy, I'm not trying to insult him, just telling him I think the important thing here is that he made out ok and the car is EASY to replace and to simply move on.

You talk to your car and have a special relationship with it and admire its beauty? You need to have your head checked bro. Do you do the same with your toaster or refrigerator? They share some components with cars as well.

Just

Jonas McFeely
03-11-06, 07:28 PM
I understand cars, I've been through about 150 of them. I understand the joy of owning something you like. I also understand that they are not living things. Nightwolf is a cool guy, I'm not trying to insult him, just telling him I think the important thing here is that he made out ok and the car is EASY to replace and to simply move on.

You talk to your car and have a special relationship with it and admire its beauty? You need to have your head checked bro. Do you do the same with your toaster or refrigerator? They share some components with cars as well.

Just because something is not living doesnt mean you cant have feelings for it.I love my car more than most people,excluding friends and family.Like i said,you dont understand anything im saying,whereas alot of people on here do.A car is soooooo much more than an appliance to alot of people.Just because youve been through "150" cars doesnt mean shit.You still dont understand a true car enthuseists feelings.I never insulted you once in that post,yet you felt the need to insult me.My car is beautiful,i do love it,and i do talk to it,not like have a conversation,but if it does something i dont like,i'll tell it to stop,or if it does something i like,i'll say thanks or good job.Its something you dont understand,but alot of people here do.Yeah there are more important things than a car,i know that,and my car is not #1 in my life.

Its not as simple as just moving on.He obviously really cared about that car.And he will miss it.You cannot grasp this because youve owned a 150 cars and you say a car is like toaster,or at least you compared the two.Youre just like any other Joe who goes from point A to point B,except you want to be seen in a Cadillac,for whatever reason.Maybe because it stands for something,something you think you understand.You have no clue though.

CoupeDevilleRob
03-11-06, 08:07 PM
I hear everything you're saying Night Wolf. I view my car as more of a cool daily driver than I do a classic. Hell, I drove it over that sorry excuse of a highway called the FDR Drive and parked it on the street in Manhattan this morning. How many people would do that with a sweet older car? The way I drive I don't exactly baby it either, I'm kinda surprised that 4100 is still holding up so well. Mine has a lot of small issues that I'm slowly but surely fixing.

If it were to wrecked tonight I'd be upset, that car has a lot of sentimental value, being my first and my grandfather's last car. I've also got a lot of money in it and have some futures plans for it. I don't think I'd be dwelling on it though. I certainly wouldn't be showing everyone pictures of the carcass, I'd hardly talk about it. It's gone, nothing can be done, it's time to start scheming to get another one. But that's me.

Jonas McFeely
03-11-06, 08:44 PM
I hear everything you're saying Night Wolf. I view my car as more of a cool daily driver than I do a classic. Hell, I drove it over that sorry excuse of a highway called the FDR Drive and parked it on the street in Manhattan this morning. How many people would do that with a sweet older car? The way I drive I don't exactly baby it either, I'm kinda surprised that 4100 is still holding up so well. Mine has a lot of small issues that I'm slowly but surely fixing.

If it were to wrecked tonight I'd be upset, that car has a lot of sentimental value, being my first and my grandfather's last car. I've also got a lot of money in it and have some futures plans for it. I don't think I'd be dwelling on it though. I certainly wouldn't be showing everyone pictures of the carcass, I'd hardly talk about it. It's gone, nothing can be done, it's time to start scheming to get another one. But that's me.


Yeah i would be crushed,but youre right, i dont know about showing her off in her worst state,thats like showing your friend your dog after it got hit by a car.I think in the interest of the people of the forum i maybe would post a pic or 2 of the damage,just so people get a little closer of a feel of what youre going through.

As for the HT4100,mine has fairly low miles,but i seriously run it hard.So far its held up perfect.Not one problem with it,except for of course the lack off balls.

Destroyer
03-12-06, 01:32 AM
Maybe he buys em up, fixes them and sells them for profit....

Either way, a car isnt an appliance unless its a cheap commuter car. A luxury car is most certainly not an appliance, people who treat their Cadillacs like an appliance and just beat on them make me sick. But Destroyer doesnt do that.
I dont do that, youre right. I could get rid of my Fleetwood and drive something like a Corolla and be all the better for it...........if I wanted to be normal. My Fleetwood is definately in mint condition, I'm always asked by family and friends (including the wife) why I dont get rid of it. I dont need it. There is no reason for me having it except that I'm always looking at it and thinking what fun it would be to take it to the next level performance-wise. Running 12's in a big Fleetwood sounds a lot more fun to me than doing it in a Mustang or Camaro, and I will do it when I have the time. I've been eyeing a Bill Mitchell 427 sbc for awhile and may soon take the plunge. I dont sit there and practically make love to my car though. I can replace it tomorrow if I had to and I would. I dont understand why some get so "attached" to the cars though. We are all different, what can I say, this is the way I see things.

Destroyer
03-12-06, 01:57 AM
Just because something is not living doesnt mean you cant have feelings for it.I love my car more than most people,excluding friends and family.Like i said,you dont understand anything im saying,whereas alot of people on here do.A car is soooooo much more than an appliance to alot of people.Just because youve been through "150" cars doesnt mean shit.You still dont understand a true car enthuseists feelings.I never insulted you once in that post,yet you felt the need to insult me.My car is beautiful,i do love it,and i do talk to it,not like have a conversation,but if it does something i dont like,i'll tell it to stop,or if it does something i like,i'll say thanks or good job.Its something you dont understand,but alot of people here do.Yeah there are more important things than a car,i know that,and my car is not #1 in my life.

Its not as simple as just moving on.He obviously really cared about that car.And he will miss it.You cannot grasp this because youve owned a 150 cars and you say a car is like toaster,or at least you compared the two.Youre just like any other Joe who goes from point A to point B,except you want to be seen in a Cadillac,for whatever reason.Maybe because it stands for something,something you think you understand.You have no clue though.See thats where you are wrong. It is as easy as moving on. I have kids to worry about, my career and a ton of other things, my cars are nowhere near the top of my priorities. I'm 34 and have owned many cars. I've been driving since I was 15. Why do you think I owned so many cars?. I'm a car guy through and through, I get my hands on a car and I try to improve it. I'm more of a car guy than you will ever be. I dont get all sentimental and start crying over them or whatever, I appreciate them for what they are. I've slowed down, I dont go through them like I used to but I still go through them more than most. I dont fix them up and try to resell them, there really is not much profit (if any) in cars, I do that with real estate a whole lot though. Still, I apply the one basic lesson I have learned with real estate towards cars and everything else........buy low. I hardly ever lost money on a car so in the end I get to enjoy them for basically free. You didn't insult me? You think you are more of a car guy than me?. I appreciate them for what they are.......machines. I do like some cars more than others but I dont give them names, I dont talk to them, I dont get insulted if someone talks down on them. In the end its all nuts and bolts, but it is a hobby and an obsession that I keep on doing no matter how many years go by. Cars bring us joy because we are car guys but make no mistake, in the big scheme of things they are nothing. Dont take this holier than thou attitude with me, listen to what I'm saying. Cars will come and go, Nightwolf could have lost limbs or lived life in a vegitative state or even died, you know what kind of burden and expense that would be?. He lost his $300 car, its no biggie.

Benzilla
03-12-06, 02:02 AM
fug it, its just a car right? At least you are ok. I own 5 cars, my Fleetwood technically being at the bottom of the pile value-wise and I can honestly say I wouldn't make such a big deal if all my cars were to be destroyed tonight cause they would be replaced tomorrow. Seriously, was this pile of metal really that important to you that you would follow the tow truck?:thepan: :alchi:
that must be the most dumb, close minded thing I've ever heard. Have you ever searched long and hard to find a paticular car, and then when you find it, have the vision to put your blood sweat tears and soul into bringing it back to its full, original beauty? Thats the kind of thing I have with my '83 Coupe Deville, so if it was to be suddenly and violently ripped away from me, I too would be a total basket case. I mean if it was something like a Nissan Sentra daily driver that is simply a mode of transportation, and has no value to you, then yeah, it can be replaced. but not something you really love and work hard for, any true car lover would know that!:tisk:

Destroyer
03-12-06, 02:11 AM
I have no respect for people that brag about the how many "pieces of metal" they have owned. It bores me! I think it is too bad that you consider your cars house hold appliances. It explains why you have owned so many :mad:I was not bragging about how many cars I have owned, just stating a fact. Obviously I do not consider my cars appliances or I would own just one mundane car that gets great mpg. I have 3 V8 cars 2 of which are Cadillacs a 6 cylinder Mercedes and the wife owns a Camry which we are selling. I've owned so many cars because I love cars and always want to try something new. I'm not brand loyal to anything, I like to try everything. If I lost your respect, shit happens. :thepan:

Destroyer
03-12-06, 02:15 AM
that must be the most dumb, close minded thing I've ever heard. Have you ever searched long and hard to find a paticular car, and then when you find it, have the vision to put your blood sweat tears and soul into bringing it back to its full, original beauty? Thats the kind of thing I have with my '83 Coupe Deville, so if it was to be suddenly and violently ripped away from me, I too would be a total basket case. I mean if it was something like a Nissan Sentra daily driver that is simply a mode of transportation, and has no value to you, then yeah, it can be replaced. but not something you really love and work hard for, any true car lover would know that!:tisk:Any material item can be replaced..........period!.

davesdeville
03-12-06, 05:10 AM
I understand cars, I've been through about 150 of them. I understand the joy of owning something you like. I also understand that they are not living things. Nightwolf is a cool guy, I'm not trying to insult him, just telling him I think the important thing here is that he made out ok and the car is EASY to replace and to simply move on.

You talk to your car and have a special relationship with it and admire its beauty? You need to have your head checked bro. Do you do the same with your toaster or refrigerator? They share some components with cars as well.

You run through 150 women in 34 years and you'll never have a special relationship with one of them either.

Jonas McFeely
03-12-06, 05:26 AM
See thats where you are wrong. It is as easy as moving on. I have kids to worry about, my career and a ton of other things, my cars are nowhere near the top of my priorities. I'm 34 and have owned many cars. I've been driving since I was 15. Why do you think I owned so many cars?. I'm a car guy through and through, I get my hands on a car and I try to improve it. I'm more of a car guy than you will ever be. I dont get all sentimental and start crying over them or whatever, I appreciate them for what they are. I've slowed down, I dont go through them like I used to but I still go through them more than most. I dont fix them up and try to resell them, there really is not much profit (if any) in cars, I do that with real estate a whole lot though. Still, I apply the one basic lesson I have learned with real estate towards cars and everything else........buy low. I hardly ever lost money on a car so in the end I get to enjoy them for basically free. You didn't insult me? You think you are more of a car guy than me?. I appreciate them for what they are.......machines. I do like some cars more than others but I dont give them names, I dont talk to them, I dont get insulted if someone talks down on them. In the end its all nuts and bolts, but it is a hobby and an obsession that I keep on doing no matter how many years go by. Cars bring us joy because we are car guys but make no mistake, in the big scheme of things they are nothing. Dont take this holier than thou attitude with me, listen to what I'm saying. Cars will come and go, Nightwolf could have lost limbs or lived life in a vegitative state or even died, you know what kind of burden and expense that would be?. He lost his $300 car, its no biggie.

Like i said,you will never understand.I love my car.The thought of my car not being in my life hurts me.My car has got me through times to which you could NEVER understand.My car has been there when no one else has.It has no opinion,it just sits there and looks pretty.It has no cash value to me,it means more than money.I dont have a wife and kids and a nice home and a great job.I have my Fleetwood Brougham and my friends.Thats about it.im 18 and i live by MYSELF.How dare you question my or anyone elses love and crazy passion for their car just because you think that a car is nothing but a piece of metal.My car and the thought of fixing it up and making it better than it is gets me though hard times and believe me i have alot of them.Just because you disagree doesnt make you right,and it also does not make me right.I have a crazy and special relationship with things that make me happy,whether it be people or cars.**** you for questioning that.

Destroyer
03-12-06, 09:59 AM
You run through 150 women in 34 years and you'll never have a special relationship with one of them either.Here you go comparing machines with living things again. How exactly do you compare a car with a woman?. Nevermind, dont answer that. :stirpot:

Destroyer
03-12-06, 10:02 AM
My car has been there when no one else has.Did it have a choice?:crybaby:

KaddyKat
03-12-06, 03:38 PM
You run through 150 women in 34 years and you'll never have a special relationship with one of them either.

Sounds like the women, er car, is not the problem:tongue2:

Jonas McFeely
03-12-06, 04:11 PM
Did it have a choice?:crybaby:

No,it didnt have a choice,its a car,it cant think.But it was comforting to sit in it and feel safe.

Destroyer
03-12-06, 05:58 PM
No,it didnt have a choice,its a car,it cant think.But it was comforting to sit in it and feel safe.
I have a house to sit in and feel safe, eh, well for at least 6 months out of the year. Living in FL lately means you dont feel safe anywhere during Hurricane season. :eek:

addison_ii
03-12-06, 06:17 PM
Hey Rick did you take the rims off the 79? They looked pretty nice and would make a nice addition to the next RWD Caddy you buy.

Night Wolf
03-12-06, 07:52 PM
Hey Rick did you take the rims off the 79? They looked pretty nice and would make a nice addition to the next RWD Caddy you buy.

Yes, the rims and 4 new white wall tires were removed. They were not damaged... one tire had the frame jabbed into it, so I did let some of the air out of that tire, but it looks fine. It may have damaged the steel belts though, I don't know, if those tires are on another car, I'll just monitor it and keep an eye on the condition.

For someone that has lots of money, its easy to say a car comes and goes and it can be replaced. On the same note, its easy to say "it was a $300 car, who cares" Sorry, but when I hear "$300 car" I think of a beat up 1987 Honda Civic that barely runs. Not a mint classic Cadillac.

I'll bne the first to admit it wasn't a financial loss in reguards to that car. I paid $300 for it, and over the course of 2 years probably spent $1,000 on fixing it up and parts, and more then that on gas. That is nothing. In terms of money, I got 9,000 miles free as I didn't have to do a damn thing to make that car road worthy.

I got it cheap because the guy thought the 425 was blown. It wasn't. It had a new master brake cylinder and head liner.... those 2 items right there cost more then the $300 I paid the guy, but he was rich and it was just taking up space in his driveway and was tired of seeing it. The paint was fadded and it needed lots of little things fixed. Mismatched, badly worn tires etc.... but all it took was time and the abality to actually fix stuff. I compounded the paint to revel an amazing shine. All the chrome was very good. The vinyl top cleaned up nice, those 4 wheels we had laying around from my mothers Brougham, and I found 4 new tires at the junkyard. Then I went on the hunt of fixing all the little things up....wiper washers, cruise control, switched over interior trim etc...

I don't have loads of money, I don't have a wife or kids, I don't own a house... my cars are what I own and enjoy. They are my most enjoyable hobby, and I'll always be into cars. I don't like expensive or new cars, I like certain cars. Yes, I had 3 cars at age 16, but I also have/had those same 3 cars at age 18. I'd be happy going on for a long time with them. I know one thing, I hope that I don't go thru 150 cars by age 34.... there is just no need. I have my '93 Coupe and my '89 Oldsmobile... I'd like to pick up 1 or 2 more classics Caddys within a couple years, and I do want a newer Jeep as a daily driver and off-road beast.... thats all though.

That car ment alot to me, I spent lots of time working on it, fixing it, going to the junkyard and getting parts.... hanging out with friends in it... countless driving around, doing some crazy stuff in it.... and a simply amazing drive from NY-FL. To many people it would be "just a car" and if it was that way for me, then I still woudln't be thinking about it after over a month. Its not like it was a Camry (the POS that hit me) where you can pull up to a stop light and see every model and color they come in. It was a 1979 Cadillac Sedan DeVille d'Elegance.... a rare car in mint shape.

This was what $300 bought me:

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/door/PDR_0589.JPG

This is what some money, but most importantly, my time and effort got me:

http://inoventionseast.com/1979%20DeVille/79-2.JPG

I will add one more thing, because I live in an apartment with no family near by... I had no choice but to let the car go, plus I was somewhat pressured by some fmaily members. If this was, say, back home... then without a question,t he car would be towed back to my house, with my driveway to work on it... and then I would either go about fixing it, or parting it out... but the way it happened here, it was just so fast and without choice..... also why once I am done with school and start a career, I want a house of my own soon and not rent for years and years... I want my own property where I can store car(s) in such an event.

Jonas McFeely
03-12-06, 10:35 PM
"i have a house to feel safe in". Dude youre seriously one of the biggest cock suckers i think ive ever talked to.You'll never understand.Im done with this thread...

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-12-06, 11:28 PM
"i have a house to feel safe in". Dude youre seriously one of the biggest cock suckers i think ive ever talked to..

And that is what gets threads locked!



Seriously, I dont see what the problem with Destroyer's quote is.

77CDV
03-13-06, 12:11 AM
Rick,

I registered just so I could post to say I'm really sorry about your 79. I've been following your journey as you resurrected her. You really made her a beauty, and if she could, she'd thank you for the last two years. Don't feel too bad, though. You'll get another chance to do it all again with another car. I did, and I'm having a blast doing it. That's what makes owning our old cars fun!

Craig

Jonas McFeely
03-13-06, 12:34 AM
And that is what gets threads locked!



Seriously, I dont see what the problem with Destroyer's quote is.

I said something that was kind of personal,and he shot it down by saying oh i have a house to feel safe in.Thats just a dick thing to say.He's just a pompous yuppie person.I cant stand what he says,He sounds like hes so much better than everyone,and i hate that.I know i should do the mature thing and just shut up,but in this case i couldnt.I dont even know the guy,but i know his type,and i cant stand them.As for getting the thread locked,that would be unfortunate and my fault.So thats why im shutting up now.Maybe i shouldnt have called him a name,but i was just infuriated by his comment(probably what he wanted).Im done.

Night Wolf
03-13-06, 12:50 AM
Rick,

I registered just so I could post to say I'm really sorry about your 79. I've been following your journey as you resurrected her. You really made her a beauty, and if she could, she'd thank you for the last two years. Don't feel too bad, though. You'll get another chance to do it all again with another car. I did, and I'm having a blast doing it. That's what makes owning our old cars fun!

Craig

Thanks :).

Yeah, I know I'll find another, trust me... that isn't the thing at all.... its just, lots of memories and good times with that car... I had it all thru High School etc...

Then again, thats not my "real" HS car, and all that... the Coupe is.... as much as I am saddened by the '79.... if anything like this happened to the Coupe, it would be worse by a multitude.... that, I would not simply tow it away.... that car really will be staying with me for the rest of time. I gotta say, I have been overlooking that with all the stuff going on about the '79, but truth is, that car (the Coupe) truely means so much etc...

I want to find another classic for a few hundred bucks that needs some fixing up.... body work, paint and rust are the only things that really turn me away from a car, anything else I can deal with. I know they are out there, but I just need to wait. I came acorss a pretty mint '73 Coupe DeVille that needs a handful of work.... but the guy wants about twice as much as I would be willing to pay.... so, I'll have to pass on this one.

davesdeville
03-13-06, 04:15 AM
I said something that was kind of personal,and he shot it down by saying oh i have a house to feel safe in.Thats just a dick thing to say.He's just a pompous yuppie person.I cant stand what he says,He sounds like hes so much better than everyone,and i hate that.I know i should do the mature thing and just shut up,but in this case i couldnt.I dont even know the guy,but i know his type,and i cant stand them.As for getting the thread locked,that would be unfortunate and my fault.So thats why im shutting up now.Maybe i shouldnt have called him a name,but i was just infuriated by his comment(probably what he wanted).Im done.

Here I'll share the blame, the guy sounds like he's a douche. :rolleyes:

JAKE91
03-13-06, 08:03 AM
:histeric:

Destroyer
03-13-06, 09:59 AM
"i have a house to feel safe in". Dude youre seriously one of the biggest cock suckers i think ive ever talked to.You'll never understand.Im done with this thread...No, I do understand. Its like when a kid carries a blanket for security, you sit in your car instead and I sit my ass down and watch TV in the living room. Its all good. BTW: Good job on keeping things civil. :thumbsup:

Destroyer
03-13-06, 10:17 AM
Here I'll share the blame, the guy sounds like he's a douche. :rolleyes:Sorry you feel that way. I really have to watch what I say. If I say I had 150 cars in the past all of a sudden I'm bragging. If I say I have house that I feel safer in than a car, then I'm bragging and being a douche and c**k sucker. If I say that I love cars but dont talk to them, name them, look to them for security and support or tell them how beautiful they are then I'm not a car guy and dont understand how true car guys are. Whatever, we are beating a dead horse here. My original point was simple........Nightwolf, even though it sucks you lost your car, the important thing is that you are ok and the car can and easily be replaced. Peace!.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-13-06, 11:07 AM
My original point was simple........Nightwolf, even though it sucks you lost your car, the important thing is that you are ok and the car can and easily be replaced. Peace!.

Yeah pretty much, I know that it sucks that it's destroyed after he put a lot of time and effort and money into it, but the real important thing is that you're alright. And you can replace that car, theres no shortage of 1979 Cadillacs out there. Now I don't mean to sound arrogant or to say that that car wasnt special. It was special, it was a very nice car that he put a lot of work into. But I mean it's not like he crashed a '59 Eldorado or a '70 Challenger or a '69 Corvette, where there arent many left, and they're worth a ton of money.

Night Wolf
03-20-06, 07:56 PM
Well, today I went back to the junkyard... first time in over a month and a half.. I wanted to get (another) airbox for the Coupe... to mess around with an idea I have...

So while walking thru the yard, the one I have gone to many times before... about 10mins from me... What do I spot?

a sharp '79 Sedan DeVille d'Elegance with a moderate front end collosion

Yup. Shes there... at the yard... and I saw her again....
still unmolested for the most part....hey tore off the center part of the dash and cut the wires for the cassete palyer I added (from an '85 Brougham). the keys were with the car, yet they pried the trunk lock off, putting a big dent in the deck lid that was otherwise mint. its filthy, full of dust, since everything is sand. the door lock stub thingys were removed, the bottom of the back seat that I removed, then put back in thinking someone could use it is gone, some one there was probably like ohh, I can lay on this. the rear speakers were removed. the dash was pulled off, tho I never scrwed it back in.... they tried to get the front speakers... I already got them. the opra lamps are gone. when the put the car down on their wheels thing, the bottom of the rear quarter panels is all bent alot. the floor pans and tranny pan is dented form the fork lift. since the wheels were removed, I got a better look underneath, the rear brakes were going to need to be replaced soon, but the front... the frame was tweaked in lots of places.... it really got moved aorund alot. they ripped the rear view mirror off, except it fell off once before so my father and I used the strogest glue to hold it up, so it cracked the windsheild where they pulled it off.

so the trim on the top of the dash that says Cadillac, has all the lights and the fuel gauge... was form an '87 Brougham back in NY, the palastic chrome was like new... these pieces go back alot but these were mint, and I never got them last time... so I pulled them, and the speedo.... becuase (when) I get around to swapping a 500 in my moms car, its going to get a TH400, which is 3spd (what the '79 had) right now it has a 200R4 (4spd) so the cluster is different... and I would need this exact cluster anyway, so what better car then my own.... $15 for the speedo and $10 for the other 2 trim parts, I paid for the freakin trim parts twice since I bought them at the OTHER yard they now have TWO sets of marks on them front junkyards. Oh, and they marked the freakin car as a 1980, I was like WTF?

Ah well.... it sucks... but really, nothing much to do about it.... that door I paid $260 to have repainted is probably just gonna get banged up... the chrome on that car was in very good shape for a daily driver.... the interior was mint, I really wanted the seats but have no use for them....

Atleast I get to look forward to getting my mothers Brougham later this year, that car is in worse shape then my '79 was in... but I'll be starting it all over.... and my 472/500 plans will live on...

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-20-06, 08:01 PM
I can't imagine how that feels.

77CDV
03-20-06, 11:11 PM
Never fun to see, is it? Glad to read you're looking forward, and even happier you can still walk into that junkyard under your own power. Like I said before, she served you very well, even to the end. Keep the good memories.

Craig

Night Wolf
03-20-06, 11:36 PM
Never fun to see, is it? Glad to read you're looking forward, and even happier you can still walk into that junkyard under your own power. Like I said before, she served you very well, even to the end. Keep the good memories.

Craig

Thanks for the kind words :).

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-21-06, 12:38 AM
Man if I had a car that I put that much love and work into, I could never walk into the junkyard to see it, in it's sad, dying state.

DopeStar 156
03-21-06, 01:23 AM
I can't imagine how that feels.
Probably something like pulling jewelry off a dead relative....

Jonas McFeely
03-21-06, 01:32 AM
Oooh.what a dark analogy...

Night Wolf
03-21-06, 01:33 AM
Probably something like pulling jewelry off a dead relative....

well.... gosh....

heh...

DopeStar 156
03-21-06, 01:38 AM
Haha equally as hurtful though right?

FredMaxwell
03-21-06, 02:10 AM
I know exactly how you feel.

My Cadillac, a 1979 d'Elegance also,
I love her.
If anyone ever hurts or steals her..
my new mission in life will be to hurt and end whoever does it.

Bro-Ham
03-21-06, 09:26 AM
Hi, I have a 1979 Sedan deVille d'Elegance in colonial yellow with burnished gold interior. I know what you mean when you proclaim your love for the 79 you just lost. There is something special about the older 77-79 Cadillacs with the last of the bigger Cadillac V8 engines but the first of the "downsized" body style that is actually fairly easy to drive every day. They are special cars, fun to play with, a pleasure to drive, easy to work on, really durable, and the sculpted upright lines are classic. This lovely car you rescued and put your time, heart and soul into will always be a special memory and just remember there are many more fun cars that you'll find if you keep your eyes open. Enjoy the search and best of luck with the next car - - it will be exciting to see what you find!

D

FredMaxwell
03-21-06, 09:55 AM
http://www.affordablecarats.com/79cadshine.jpg
http://www.affordablecarats.com/79cadaug2002-4.jpg
http://www.affordablecarats.com/79cadaug2000-1.jpg
http://www.affordablecarats.com/79cadaug2002-1.jpg

FredMaxwell
03-21-06, 10:07 AM
Me and the automobile we go way back



http://affordablecarats.com/cad.jpg

This is my sister already trying to steal the car from me
http://affordablecarats.com/cad2.jpg

Don't laugh at the stuffed bird
It was just there to hide my overdevelopment at a young age:thumbsup:
http://affordablecarats.com/cad4.jpg
The open road! In PA I think
http://affordablecarats.com/cad3.jpg
My great grandmothers
http://www.affordablecarats.com/cad5.JPG

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-21-06, 04:29 PM
Wait, so how old are you Fred? Judging by the pics, which were probably taken around 1983 or so, you look to be about 8, which means you were born around 1975. Am I right?

Night Wolf
03-21-06, 05:57 PM
Got the VIN plate and data build plate off my '79 today....

and the title is still in my name and in my hands.....

:).

77CDV
03-21-06, 09:10 PM
Probably something like pulling jewelry off a dead relative....


Happy thoughts, DopeStar, happy thoughts. We want to cheer Rick, not give him the collywobbles.:eek:

Craig

DopeStar 156
03-21-06, 09:17 PM
Happy thoughts, DopeStar, happy thoughts. We want to cheer Rick, not give him the collywobbles.:eek:

Craig
:halo:

91TexasSeville
03-22-06, 02:08 AM
Got the VIN plate and data build plate off my '79 today....

and the title is still in my name and in my hands.....

:).


Wow...just learned of your tragic event today. What a crying shame!
I share your sorrow and feel your loss.

You are here today for good reason, that was in the cards, now is the time to move forward and make another significant difference!

davesdeville
03-22-06, 05:31 AM
Rick, how about not stealing another Deville. :p jk

90Brougham350
03-22-06, 11:46 AM
Again, a very late entry, but sorry to see those pix, Rick. That's a sad sad sight for me, I really enjoyed that DeVille. Again, my condolences to you sir. Can't wait to be back in the states in less than month, so I can get back to the Caddy Forums and stop missing everything! Best of luck to you Rick, and hey to everyone!

lochenjons
11-07-06, 01:46 AM
wow thats depressing, i dont know what id do if my caddy went to heaven... get another one thats for sure! what did you hit? how bad was his damage?

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-07-06, 10:35 PM
He hit an early '00s Camry, and If I'm not mistaken, his damage wasn't that bad, and to add insult to injury, the Camry was repaired!

Night Wolf
11-09-06, 01:02 AM
Hit a Camry, it was totaled for sure.

damage was about equal, they had a huge advantage to placement of the hit and thier speed (45mph+) vs my speed (10mph) Their left front wheel was nearly broken off, fender was pushed in about 2 feet, windsheild smashed etc.... because of the way the front of my car got pushed right to left, it really messed things up, bending the frame rails 90* infront of the front cross member, shearing the hood lock pin and buckling the roof. Both vehicles were still running tho. A crushed steering box, jammed shifter and the bumper pushed into the front tire prevented my car from moving under its own power..... tho I really never tried.

I like that car alot, it is missed.... I was thankful I still had the Coupe.... which got stolen a few months later when I went back to NY for a week, drove my Olds down, both the Isuzu Amigo form my girlfriends parents, sold the Olds and now drive the Isuzu... its a great truck. When my mom gets a new car, she said she will give me her old car... '89 Brougham that needs quite a bit of TLC... so I'll be picking away at that... first get it looking good again and fix everything that is broke, then in the future it'll be the home of a nicely built 500. The Amigo is my daily driver for quite some time, once it is replaced in the future from daily driver use, I'd like to build it into a fun little off-road 4x4 using a Cadillac 4.9 V8, just like what was in my Coupe... I am all too familer with that engine.... its actually not as hard as it seems tho, seems like the GM-Isuzu alliance wanted to help me out on this one.