: FINALLY! Bagging an AWD!!



NOCLRNCE
02-12-06, 01:23 AM
Did anyone see the new issue of Truckin?? They bag an AWD H2, not an Escalade but all the chassis compoinents are the same as Tahoe, Escalade, and Denalis! Check it out!!!!

mikeee
02-12-06, 01:42 AM
Its been done since 2001. My local shop bagged an 02 AWD escalade in late 2001. I believe Synergetic also has a bagged 02 that was done in 01.

Synergetic
02-12-06, 01:25 PM
Yup, my Escalade was the first full-size AWD SUV to ever be bagged. I also have a client with an H2 that bagged that, and on top of it - put a Cadillac front end on it!!! :) We also discovered on these forums that its been done a lot more to AWD Escalades just recently.

jahngga
02-12-06, 11:01 PM
will airbags void warranty?

jrs05caddyext
02-13-06, 09:34 AM
That Hummer is nice. StreetTrucks mag should have an article on bagging and H2 on next issue(tomorrow).

05 Cadillac Escalade
02-13-06, 11:48 AM
Is it true that the price to bag an AWD like my Escalade could cost me around $6,500? I was considering bagging my 2005 Escalade but when I heard the price, I didn't want to do it anymore. It just seems very expensive.

Thanks.

Synergetic
02-13-06, 02:40 PM
Is it true that the price to bag an AWD like my Escalade could cost me around $6,500? I was considering bagging my 2005 Escalade but when I heard the price, I didn't want to do it anymore. It just seems very expensive.

Thanks.

It could cost you three times that man!

customizer
02-13-06, 08:07 PM
Ive bagged 2 AWD escalades and 1 AWD denali. We charge 6500.00 for a top of the line kit installed. There are 2 other posts about this topic. Search for them and youll see. I posted pics of the last install i did.
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60178&highlight=air+ride
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61084&highlight=bagging

jrs05caddyext
02-14-06, 10:22 AM
Another ride in Truckin. Ekstensive's 2004 Escalade Layed out on 26s.

Synergetic
02-14-06, 11:27 AM
Another ride in Truckin. Ekstensive's 2004 Escalade Layed out on 26s.

Thats a 2WD.

jrs05caddyext
02-14-06, 11:48 AM
Thats a 2WD.

Yea I wasnt sure but hey its a nice ride.

Synergetic
02-14-06, 11:57 AM
Yea I wasnt sure but hey its a nice ride.

Its ok. The paint job could of been better and same with the wheel choice. But oh well - people liked it.

BLUEXTON4S
02-14-06, 05:03 PM
Its ok. The paint job could of been better and same with the wheel choice. But oh well - people liked it.


That is the same way I feel about yours Synergetic.

Synergetic
02-14-06, 08:39 PM
That is the same way I feel about yours Synergetic.

lol. Ouch! I guess I brought that one upon myself... :suspense:

Thats fine, atleast the DUB show judges, SEMA and the rest of the show scene including a movie production, Truckin' Magazine and 13 other magazines liked it. Thats who I target when customizing my cars.

New paint, new and bigger wheels, body mods an a INTENSEEE interior re-make is going on and we should be able to get the same truck into the same magazines for ROUND 2 baby!! :)

jrs05caddyext
02-15-06, 09:56 AM
lol. Ouch! I guess I brought that one upon myself... :suspense:

Thats fine, atleast the DUB show judges, SEMA and the rest of the show scene including a movie production, Truckin' Magazine and 13 other magazines liked it. Thats who I target when customizing my cars.

New paint, new and bigger wheels, body mods an a INTENSEEE interior re-make is going on and we should be able to get the same truck into the same magazines for ROUND 2 baby!! :)


Any pics of the process???

Synergetic
02-15-06, 12:20 PM
Any pics of the process???

Not yet, i'll start a new thread like meade916 did with the Chicken EXT. Thanks for the idea meade916!

hybridz0r
02-16-06, 01:41 PM
so i gave nolimit a call to see if they would sell me just the brackets.... NOPE!!

but they offered to bag my truck for an awesome price of 7800.........!

customizer
02-16-06, 08:10 PM
Ekstensive's escalade is also bodydropped. All of their trucks are nuts, and they do some crazy custom frame work. Anyone have any pics of the Truckin article? I havent been able to find it yet.

ILLNALI
02-16-06, 09:19 PM
Ekstensive's escalade is also bodydropped. All of their trucks are nuts, and they do some crazy custom frame work. Anyone have any pics of the Truckin article? I havent been able to find it yet.


I have the mag I will bring it with me on Saturday...if you do not find it by then!

jrs05caddyext
02-17-06, 09:30 AM
I have it. They have both Escalade(Escalayed) & Navigator(GatorRaid) featured in there. I'll get some pics on my lunch.

R1stunta
02-17-06, 11:54 PM
Here are some pics of my friend's 02 AWD Escalade on 27's. So far from what I know he has put in over $15k into the suspension. The shop that did the install had to modify the fender wells to let the truck sit on the ground with the 27's.

http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL980/4381181/9257554/129765966.jpg







http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL980/4381181/9257554/129765967.jpg

ILLNALI
02-18-06, 12:13 AM
damn! :eek: please post up some more shots! Not the biggest fan of the "not really's" rims..but that truck is sick laying on the ground. Any under the hood shots? or suspension setup?

05 Cadillac Escalade
02-18-06, 12:17 AM
I think it looks real nice. Is that the Lexani bodykit as well? Sure looks like it. Wish I had the money to put some of that stuff in my Escalade. Please post some more pictures if you can. Interesting topic.

Thanks.

R1stunta
02-18-06, 02:27 AM
It is a Lexani Kit. I will try to get some more pics of the engine bay and other mods. I do have some pics from a car show last year. Here is another truck they did airbagged on 26's.

http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL980/4381181/9257554/129775684.jpg

http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL980/4381181/9257554/129775679.jpg

http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL980/4381181/9257554/129775680.jpg

http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL980/4381181/9257554/129775682.jpg

http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL980/4381181/9257554/129775683.jpg

hornyjuan
02-18-06, 03:22 AM
Very nice. 27's are insanely huge. Can he even drive it everyday?

Synergetic
02-18-06, 09:17 PM
27's are NOT 27's!!

They're actually 22's with a big lip! There is nothing special about tucking a set of 27's. 26's measure at 28 inches.

Wait till you see the new changes to our Escalade!! Coming from the first to bag an AWD full size SUV babY!!!

fast66
02-18-06, 11:21 PM
I LOVE THAT TRUCK!, except for the gucci

almost the same as my buddies truck on 27's, the one in my sig

customizer
02-19-06, 12:25 AM
I was asking if anyone can post the pics or article about that hummer. I cant find Truckin anywhere here in queens. it sucks. none sells it.

05 Cadillac Escalade
02-19-06, 12:52 AM
Wow. Those are some excellent pictures. The trucks look great. Synergetic, can't wait to see what your Escalade is going to look like after all the new modifications. Good luck with that and post some pictures upon completion.

Thanks.

jrs05caddyext
02-21-06, 09:37 AM
Here are some pics of my friend's 02 AWD Escalade on 27's. So far from what I know he has put in over $15k into the suspension. The shop that did the install had to modify the fender wells to let the truck sit on the ground with the 27's.

http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL980/4381181/9257554/129765966.jpg







http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL980/4381181/9257554/129765967.jpg


MORE PICS??????

customizer
02-21-06, 01:02 PM
If those are really 22's it would ba harder to "TUCK" the rim on the 22 and easier to "tuck" the rim on the 26. Laying frame is the opposite. Laying frame on a 26 takes alot more work than a 22. Look at lowriders, they have 13's and say they lay frame, wow big shit. In order to tuck the rim on a 22 in that truck it would take cutting out the floor, notching the frame and redoing the rear suspension with a custom 4link or a modified factory link. 22's can have a smaller overall diameter which brings the center of the wheel closer to the ground, making it require less drop to lay the frame. At the same time, the smaller diameter requires the body to drop down more to cover the rim as it would need to cover the 26. The easiest way to think of it is to consider a car with factory suspension. Put a larger overall diameter tire and you have less wheel gap and more ground clearance. Smaller overall diameter and you get more wheel gap and less ground clearance. Does that make sense to everyone? Either way that black truck looks sick. Id love to see some more pics as well.
Ayone have any of those pics of Truckin with the hummer?

Synergetic
02-21-06, 01:30 PM
If those are really 22's it would ba harder to "TUCK" the rim on the 22 and easier to "tuck" the rim on the 26. Laying frame is the opposite. Laying frame on a 26 takes alot more work than a 22. Look at lowriders, they have 13's and say they lay frame, wow big shit. In order to tuck the rim on a 22 in that truck it would take cutting out the floor, notching the frame and redoing the rear suspension with a custom 4link or a modified factory link. 22's can have a smaller overall diameter which brings the center of the wheel closer to the ground, making it require less drop to lay the frame. At the same time, the smaller diameter requires the body to drop down more to cover the rim as it would need to cover the 26. The easiest way to think of it is to consider a car with factory suspension. Put a larger overall diameter tire and you have less wheel gap and more ground clearance. Smaller overall diameter and you get more wheel gap and less ground clearance. Does that make sense to everyone? Either way that black truck looks sick. Id love to see some more pics as well.
Ayone have any of those pics of Truckin with the hummer?

Hey Customizer, glad to see you're posting again.

We can barely get the 24's to tuck on our Escalade, 2 inches at the most. It's going to the shop soon. The floor is already cut and the wheel wells are already shaved up. We're getting a new 4-link and new panhard bar. We're also moving the rear to the left an 1-1/2" and moving it back 1-1/2". Doing this will allow us to tuck a 26" wheel and sit evenly with the front.

And those 27's again are 22's with a bigg lip. Nothing special about them except that you can say you got "27's" that aren't as big as 26's. Lexani is our client, so I know this and have confirmed it. :)

hornyjuan
02-21-06, 02:26 PM
What exactly do you do Syn? Many big name clients which is pretty cool. Any chance Brembo is a client?

Synergetic
02-21-06, 05:47 PM
What exactly do you do Syn? Many big name clients which is pretty cool. Any chance Brembo is a client?

Unfortunately Brembo is not one of our clients. I own an interactive design firms. We offer multimedia stuff such as website development, print ad design, business identity packages, video production, logo design, etc. to small to large size companies. The Lexani Corporation is one example of our large size clients. We have a few other big name in the automotive industry, such as TOKICO Gas Shocks which we'll be working with very soon. We've also worked with a few other companies in the automotive industry that manufacturer SEMA award winning products.

This is just my first business. The second one is being created still. I will soon own a wheel company. Then you all will be rollin' my chrome 26's... :)

05 Cadillac Escalade
02-21-06, 05:52 PM
This is just my first business. The second one is being created still. I will soon own a wheel company. Then you all will be rollin' my chrome 26's... :)

I will gladly advertise your wheels for you when that company opens up. Hope it opens soon. Looks like your doing pretty well for yourself. Keep up the good work and have fun.

Thanks.

customizer
02-21-06, 11:31 PM
Yeah ive been here, just watching to see whats going on. Ive had a few side jobs ive been working on to keep me busy. Im working on a 2005 VW touareg the next few weeks as well on a truck from a member from here. If hes happy he can tell attest to the claims Ive made about my work. I usually shift the rear over to make sure things look perfect when dropped. I always get the tires to tuck, but like you said its not easy. Id love to see the pics of what your having done so take some of them in progress. I pretty much know what you have to do, jus curious how youd go about it. Did you narrow the rear? moving it back will let you clear the bolt that we were talking about if you narrow it or change the offset to clear the quarter. keep us posted.

Synergetic
02-22-06, 12:25 AM
Yeah ive been here, just watching to see whats going on. Ive had a few side jobs ive been working on to keep me busy. Im working on a 2005 VW touareg the next few weeks as well on a truck from a member from here. If hes happy he can tell attest to the claims Ive made about my work. I usually shift the rear over to make sure things look perfect when dropped. I always get the tires to tuck, but like you said its not easy. Id love to see the pics of what your having done so take some of them in progress. I pretty much know what you have to do, jus curious how youd go about it. Did you narrow the rear? moving it back will let you clear the bolt that we were talking about if you narrow it or change the offset to clear the quarter. keep us posted.

I will take pictures when we begin that. We don't need to narrow the rear. We should be able to get the 26's to sit even from front to back, which will give us some good showcase at shows and in magazines, or wherever. We're hoping to tuck a few inches of chrome. Keep in mind, we still have the 3rd row in our Escalade. If this wasn't here, we could do some big things with the rear.

jrs05caddyext
02-22-06, 11:50 AM
http://masterimagecustoms.com/alexleft1.html
http://masterimagecustoms.com/alexleft2.html
http://masterimagecustoms.com/alexleft3.html
http://masterimagecustoms.com/alexleft4.html
http://masterimagecustoms.com/alexleft5.html
http://masterimagecustoms.com/alexleft6.html

customizer
02-23-06, 12:58 PM
I finally found the Truckin issue. Ive seen extensive's Escalayed in person at SEMA, but it didnt have the interior done. It is sick. I cant even imagine what they would charge for a custom frame for an escalade. I was not impressed with that hummer AWD install. It doesnt seem to get that much lift with the shockwave, and it definitely doesnt get a good drop. In the rear they are using a sleeve bag as well, which while giving a good ride, does not collapse as low as a dual bellow bag so it doesnt get as much as a drop either. I was curious to see what they did, oh well.

jrs05caddyext
03-01-06, 10:30 AM
:cool2: I love the look even though they are not real 27shttp://img429.imageshack.us/img429/1725/0503stsema58z7lx.jpg

Zorb750
03-01-06, 11:17 AM
That humm-burban must be the ugliest thing I have ever seen. It's hideous with normal suspension, at normal height, now it's supposed to look good sitting on the ground? It looks like a bus stop turned over on its side! :vomit:

http://pages.prodigy.net/zorbatron/images/garbagecan-sm.jpg
(Put in here)

jrs05caddyext
03-13-06, 02:43 PM
Yeah ive been here, just watching to see whats going on. Ive had a few side jobs ive been working on to keep me busy. Im working on a 2005 VW touareg the next few weeks as well on a truck from a member from here. If hes happy he can tell attest to the claims Ive made about my work. I usually shift the rear over to make sure things look perfect when dropped. I always get the tires to tuck, but like you said its not easy. Id love to see the pics of what your having done so take some of them in progress. I pretty much know what you have to do, jus curious how youd go about it. Did you narrow the rear? moving it back will let you clear the bolt that we were talking about if you narrow it or change the offset to clear the quarter. keep us posted.

Sine you bagged AWD Escalades before I was just wondering what you do about the Service Tire Monitor light. I just got some 26s again and get this light at start up. I never had this problem on my 2002 EXT. I know you have to bend the rod in the rear to trick the system but just not sure how much. Any help would be appreciated.:hmm:

Synergetic
03-13-06, 06:19 PM
Sine you bagged AWD Escalades before I was just wondering what you do about the Service Tire Monitor light. I just got some 26s again and get this light at start up. I never had this problem on my 2002 EXT. I know you have to bend the rod in the rear to trick the system but just not sure how much. Any help would be appreciated.:hmm:

Congratulations man! You got the TIS's? Those are clean...

jrs05caddyext
03-13-06, 07:14 PM
Congratulations man! You got the TIS's? Those are clean...

Thanks man. I guess they will do for now. I really wanted some Asanti wheels but might have to wait for a while longer. That pic I have is not the real one, I got that one from the TIS site but it looks the same.

05 Cadillac Escalade
03-13-06, 09:12 PM
That looks real nice. I am sure it looks just as good on your EXT. Congratulations. Post some pictures of your EXT as well when you have a chance.

Thanks.

customizer
03-14-06, 11:58 AM
The tire service monitor relays tire pressure via the sensors on the valve stem. It has nothing to do with the ride height sensors. The ride height sensors need to be adjusted or moved when lowering the vehicle. You will have to remove the pressure sensors from the stock wheels (i think its actually the valve stem as well) and they should be mounted on the new rim and tire. In the past we used the stock valve on the new rim, but It may be pissible to mount them inside the rim. I always wondered if a large band clamp (hose clamp style) could be used to hold it in place on the rim.

jrs05caddyext
03-14-06, 04:44 PM
The tire service monitor relays tire pressure via the sensors on the valve stem. It has nothing to do with the ride height sensors. The ride height sensors need to be adjusted or moved when lowering the vehicle. You will have to remove the pressure sensors from the stock wheels (i think its actually the valve stem as well) and they should be mounted on the new rim and tire. In the past we used the stock valve on the new rim, but It may be pissible to mount them inside the rim. I always wondered if a large band clamp (hose clamp style) could be used to hold it in place on the rim.

Thanks for the info. I'll get my guys to check it out and see if we can transfer the old valve stem out on to the 26s.

jrs05caddyext
03-30-06, 09:22 AM
Do airbags void your warranty? I have 2 offers to get my EXT bagged and the prices are pretty low.

Synergetic
03-30-06, 01:39 PM
Do airbags void your warranty? I have 2 offers to get my EXT bagged and the prices are pretty low.

lol. Yup - Unfortunately!!!

customizer
04-02-06, 10:04 PM
The dealer cant just void your warranty b/c they feel like it. You just have to have the balls to stand up to them. Each company is different. I just had my customer with the EXT tell me he had some warranty work done on his eletrical system. They tried to tell him it was due to his alarm, then the air suspension, but he stood up to them. check this out.
http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?ID=50096

Synergetic. Get any pics of your truck yet?

05 Cadillac Escalade
04-02-06, 10:10 PM
The dealer cant just void your warranty b/c they feel like it. You just have to have the balls to stand up to them. Each company is different. I just had my customer with the EXT tell me he had some warranty work done on his eletrical system. They tried to tell him it was due to his alarm, then the air suspension, but he stood up to them. check this out.
http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?ID=50096

Synergetic. Get any pics of your truck yet?

You are right. The dealership could try to trick you and make you pay for some work that is under warranty. However, a lot of modifications that are done to your Escalade could very well void your warranty. Bagging the Escalade will most definitly void your warranty. It is completely re-arranging the stock suspension and taking out what GM has manufactured for the Escalade. Basically saying that if anything under the truck breaks after that and it can be related to the work on the suspension, Cadillac does not have to fix it under warranty. You were the one who made the choice to change the setup that GM made specifically for that car/truck.

Thanks.

jrs05caddyext
04-03-06, 10:05 AM
Thanks for the info Customizer.

Synergetic
04-03-06, 01:03 PM
The dealer cant just void your warranty b/c they feel like it. You just have to have the balls to stand up to them. Each company is different. I just had my customer with the EXT tell me he had some warranty work done on his eletrical system. They tried to tell him it was due to his alarm, then the air suspension, but he stood up to them. check this out.
http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?ID=50096

Synergetic. Get any pics of your truck yet?

Its going into the shop, since recently vandalized. But i'm moving down to LA and hopefully will have time to get that thing into the shop to get that ass to lay out like the front before I move.

tuckin26s
11-21-11, 02:56 PM
my ride tucks 26 and is built to tuck 28s tell me what ya think

82960

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