to make a long story short, there is a 95 eldorado in my city that is selling for just under 8K. It has 72k miles, dark blue (my favorite color). Those are the only details i know as of now (havent had a chance to check it out)

here is a pic (http://www.us.trader.com/USTRoot/PhotoBase/Pubs/INDY/Individual/ASHOW/0010LU6.jpg)

I think this is a good deal, because it is near my house, and i know the guy that owns the dealership.

see if this link works.
edit: the link wouldn't work but......
i priced a "base" eldo with no options. kelly blue book listed it at just over $10,000.

Yeah, I think you're getting a good deal.. The car looks good to me.. That's the year I had.. pics (http://www.80sxchange.com/caddy.htm)

I wish I still had it.. My lasted until 110,000 miles before giving me problems...

ok i attached it. see if it works. I dont know why the link wouldnt work, it works just fine for me

http://www.us.trader.com/USTRoot/PhotoBase/Pubs/INDY/Individual/ASHOW/0010LU6.jpg

test..

it worked fine. what do you think?

All the links are working for me...

Originally posted by elwesso
ok i attached it. see if it works. I dont know why the link wouldnt work, it works just fine for me
I tried to link the results of the price check that I did on kbb.com.
That's what wouldn't work......the page that I tried to link to was dead.:confused: :)

ok.

well as it turned out, that car was sold. Im not having good luck with this. But i have found a couple of sevilles. Ones a 96 sts and the other one is either a 94 or 95 sls. Not sure, the place wasnt open i just pulling and looked.

Well at least that means that they can't sell it today!

Max

I think the 96 has an updated interior.. Plus, it's an STS. :) See how much that one is.. What color?

I went by there today, and it is gold with a black vinyl top. They want 8200 for it. The condition looks good, but i have yet to see how many miles are on it. I am going to call today hopefully, and ill get back.

the SLS i actually got to get out and look at, and it is in great shape, the interior is nice too, doesnt look like too many miles, but the dealer was closed that day so im not sure.

OK, I got info on both of the cars.

The 96 has 88k miles, is a 1 owner, and was owned by the grandfather of a major car dealership in Muncie, IN.

The other one, a 94 SLS, has 130K, they want $5000 for it. The guy said that just before it was traded in the owner put in about $700 in service. It really looks like it has about 20k on it.

Also, both of them have been inspected and serviced by a mechanic, and if they found any thing wrong they fixed it.

Well.. I usually don't listen too much to what a dealer tells me about the previous owners and stuff like that.. My Brother and I have found the information tobe untrue almost all the time. And, they're trying to sell the car so they're going to tell you good stories... If they didn't, they would be in another business...

The 94 with 130k has a lot of mileage.. There's just no way you're not going to run into problems.. That's what I think, anyway. I'd spend the extra money and get the 96.. Do a CarFax and see if it really had one owner and check out the mileage as well.. With 88,000 miles, the car has a long life ahead of it...

Ok thanks for the info. I really dont think this guy is trying to lie just to sell the car. He is guy that is local, and his car lot has about 15 cars on it. My dad knows him, and he is a good guy. I would still do a history report just to be sure. I think that he buys cars from other dealers around the area and tries to sell them. Also, its just about in spitting distance from my house, so i cant really go wrong with that.

Do you think that 94 with 130k and they want $5000 is a little much? (price wise). The guy said it was just serviced and has new brakes, and got "tuned up". The guy must obviously doesnt know hes talking to someone who knows what he's talking about. Im sure that it would run fine for a while, and they start breaking. And, i wouldnt be able to get an extended warranty. Ill prolly end up going with the 96, just put a little extra on the home equity! Anyway, tell me what you think.

I think a car with 130,000 miles that recently had the 100,000 mile tune up should be in good shape. What ever car you decide on be sure to activate the diagnostics. It can tell you many things. You can also check carfax for $20.
Pat

do you mean the OBDII? Would the people at autozone be able to test out those things with their scanners. Because as it turns out, there is an autozone right across the street from the dealer.

Does 5000 for a seville sls with 130k seems a little to pricey. Ive seen ones under 100k for less than that.

How long do these cars last before having major problems. Lets say on average.

Ill prolly end up going with the 96. It is a 1 owner. I like that. I figure if they can spend the $40,000 for them, theyll be able to spend the money to maintain them properly.

Tell me what you think

$5000 doesn't sound ridiculous if it's in nice condition. It IS a Cadillac Seville.. So $5k doesn't sound unreasonable.. Unfortunately, I'm a rare exception when it comes to the question, "At about what mileage does a Cadillac start giving you problems"... My '95 ETC started having major problems around 110k.. It costed me A LOT of money... That's why I'm afraid of a Cadillac that's already got 130k on it.. But, maybe all the 110k repairs are already done.. Can you get a service history?

He said it was owned by some old guy before. I asked for them and he didnt seem to know what i was talking about, but i was probably vague. I talk fast.

As ive been thinking, 130k is a little much. I am getting financial help from my parents, and they thought it was too much, although they grew up in the era when you didnt see many cars over 100k.

As with yours, the owner may not have taken good care of it. I dont know.

But 8200 for a 96 with 80k seems like a better deal.

You could also look at it this way.....you are paying $3200 more to have 50k less wear and tear. I think thats a fair trade.

Right.. And, the previous owner to my ETC treated the car very well. It was my best friend. :D That's what has me so surprised about it.. He drove it like it was a prize...

Yeah, and it has the newer interior, which is almost the deciding factor for me.

Are the 96's any more reliable than the 94s. Prolly not, but the technology advance in 2 years may provide some betterness (probly not a word)

What sucks, is my other alternative is a 93 GP, 3.1L. I decided i want a car im proud of (not crappy pontiac). Ive heard the 3.1 is reliable, but i am willing to offset that cost to drive a world class luxuary car.

Yeah 2 yrs in car age makes a world of a difference. And its a big drop going to a 93 GP from a 96 Cadillac. Like apples and oranges.

ok, thanks GRAND PUBA (you stole that from me :) ) . My dad wants me to get the GP, but i want the caddy. It is a good car, but i like something with a little more class. If i had the money id buy both and use the GP as the beater. It (GP) is bright red and has 46k, and is prolly a great car, but not my type. I want something that gets 0-60 in less than 3 DAYS. And if i had that id be driving a RED ROCKET, not a good thing.

Do you know how much more reliable the 96 is than the 94 Sevilles. Also, are the SLS or STS more reliable. Im sure theres no difference, but its GM, anythings possible

Well the GP reminded me of the Grand Puba :D How much is the GP anyway?

I dont know, its my aunts car (she bought one of those new saturn VUEs). I think they said like 4000, but if i did decide on that i would say less because the book is 3200. I would prolly go 3500, and im sure theyd be flexible. It doesnt have any problems, and is a great car, but i just dont like it. Cars are really the only thing im into besides golf, and i want something that reflects that. So im not going to get just your every day shitter and be happy with it. If i had the cadillac and the GP, that would be great, but im not Bill Gates....

I'm almost positive the Northstar had a 5 horsepower increase in '95... The STS and SLS are the same, to my knowledge, in reliability.. I'd be much more proud to drive the STS than the Grand Prix... You only live once.. Grab the STS...

Thats exactly what i think. The STS can have more pimpage then a "red rocket"

Most definitely... If you say, "There's just something about driving a Cadillac" - nobody will look at you funny.. If you say, "There's just something about driving a Pontiac" - well, you might get some funny looks. :p

Amen, amen. But, i have found that most people think that ponitacs are really good. For instance, the first day i drove my GTP (black), i got so many comments on it. i was like, its not really that great, in fact, i dont really like it that much (of course i didnt say that, they're were women in my car! :excited: ). I have a feeling that i wont get as many comments on the cadillac, but when i race then they will really see the truth. When they think of cadillac, most people think old geezer. Maybe true with buick, but not caddy.

Although, the 93 gp's look horrid. It was prolly just fine, about 10 years ago. I dont like looks, and the driving of my 02 GTP, but im gonna feel sorry for the person who owns it next (ie- flooring it while still cold, 1000 miles overdue service, peeling out, and it only has 7000 miles). Basically, it looks nice, but it doesnt go as fast as it looks.

What the Cadillac does is get you respect.. I remember last Winter I had a new boss come on at work.. At the time, my hair was nearly half way down my back.. Fortunately, she wanted to take us all (4 of us and her) to lunch for introductions and stuff.. Well, when she asked, "So who has a big car?" - I made sure I said, "I have a big car!" right away!

Well.. Once she got into the ETC, that was the end of it.. I've had her respect ever since.. It was cold and I had heated seats and a mint condition Cadillac that she probably thought was right out of the showroom. Not that I don't deserve respect - but by driving an expensive looking car, I'm sure I looked like a person who was disciplined, accomplished and good at what he did.. And I am. :)

My Father told me something that's unfortunate - and very true:

A man is judged by three factors:

1. The way he dresses
2. The car he drives
3. His Wife (the company he keeps)

why not get your gtp tuned up and have some fun with it?

<$200 for pulley
<$200 for intake
<$900 for exhaust
<$300 for new PCM
= well over 60hp (depending on the pulley used),
that puts you in 300+hp range with well above 330lbft of torque with enough moeny left for suspensions and tires(z rated recommended since you're allowed to go all the way up to 255mph).

Well i would if i could, but i cant. Its a leased car, and i dont plan on buying it. Besides, i want a car thats more comfortable. The GTP is not exactly what i call comfortable, but i will give it this-- it keeps you awake from all the noise. I think thats how pontiac wanted it to feel. Also, in regards to the cadillac, it does exactly what Sal said up there. Besides, a 95 caddy looks like a brand new car to most people.

So, I'm gonna' throw in my 2 cents worth now! My '91 Seville has 154,000 miles on it ( Are you listening SAL?) And I have had NO that's right "0" Major problems. Since new my car has shown 5 codes including the "dreaded" Service CCR Message. I put on passive KYB's and reprogramed the computer and that was it! No more problems! I wouldn't be afraid of a Cadillac with 130,000 miles on it, Not even a little bit. I will say however...Learn to do your own service ( Large and small ) Have a strict maintenance schedule and stick to it! Buy a CADILLAC FACTORY SERVICE MANUAL and use it! and the car will last many years!! These cars are designed to last a long time with proper care and maintenance.....I'd buy that car for 5,000 bucks in a heartbeat!


Hope Ya' understand Sal, I had to tease Ya' Just a little bit...

OK thanks. I was considering getting an extended warranty, or do you think that the service manual would be able to get me where i need to go. Basically, i have a general understanding of engines. During the summer i worked on a few small block chevys and fords, doing different things. Do you think that with the aid of the service manual i would be able to do anything that would be necessary (besides like overhauling the tranny)?

Thanks alot, and for your other little tidbit ;)

No prob. Moderator Extrodanaire Brother Dude Man Fellow Caddy Enthusiast! I think the extended warranty is a good thing if you can get it on a car with that kind of mileage on it. The factory service manual is something you need in addition to whatever else you get to maintain your car. The manual has so much vital info. in it that if your gonna' service your own vehicle I feel that it is a must have item. So DUDE,(A little California lingo there.)
Get the car and......ENJOY! C-Ya,KC

I'm listening! I hear ya! :) I always try my best to stay as low as possible - but not always.. When I was looking for my Vette last year, I didn't care what the mileage was. Fortunately, I found one with about 50,000 miles.. I was happy.. Good mileage for an '87... I know my experience with the '95 I had was probably very rare. I don't think most people have the problems I had with such low mileage...

Well, do you think that i would be able to do most of my own maintenance with the service manual? Or do you think it may be more worthwhile to get the warranty and let the dealer fix it right? Let me know what you all think.

:)

Ok thanks for the opinion. Does the service manual explain things enough so that i could figure it out without knowing what im doing?

Hey Wes. I'm up in Fort Wayne, getting a 94 eldo touring tonight. anytime now... not sure what you're looking for, but if you need one that requires moderate cosmetic work for much less than the others you are looking at drop me a line.

dude...this thread is damn near two years old. :)

oops. I'm an F'n retard. sorry about that. It happens :cookoo:

cadillacstars - if you didn't buy it I was going to!! :P :D

Hey, that's alright...I read the first dozen or so posts before I realized that they were starting to sound familiar...then I looked at the date and felt the same way.

no matter, still got a 94 etc for sale. cheap. 165k slightly vandalized (ex-girlfriend, I suppose). emerald, moonroof, heated....... northeast IN

what was damaged on it?