So I Drive to work last night in my Silver 1996 Seville, which I've had for about 2 years now. Im working 7pm to 7am and it's Super Bowl Sunday, so naturally, I had already been hittin "the sauce", with the anticipation of finishing up the game at work.
We eat, drink, finish the game and head out onto the floor to do some work.
2 am rolls around, nap time.
I head out to my car to snooze on my lunch break, as Ive done hundreds of times before. I Fire up the car, kick on the radio, heated seats, turn on the heater, recline the seat all the way back, and im out like a light.


About 45 min later I wake up to a smell so acrid, my whole chest hurt, and it felt like somthing had me by the throat choking the air out of me.
I open my eyes (still a little tanked) and the whole inside of the car is full of smoke. All I can see, is an Orange glow that appered to be coming form under my hood. "Holy Shit, My Cars On Fire".
Just waking up, it took me a second to realize where I was. Gagging and coughing, I cant see shit, and im fumbling for the door handle. Which is of course locked. I unlock the door and flames come rolling up from under the dash singing the whole right side of my head. I open the door and get out.
Another guy I work with had smelt what he said was an electrical fire from inside the plant, about 80 feet away. He followed the smell to the wall and peek through the holes in the wall and, "Holy Shit, His Cars On Fire".
So as Im just standing there watching my car burn, and thinking, I cant believe this is happening (especially because its my only car, and my insurance ran out last month). The Guy that had seen the car burning through the wall comes running up behind me with an extinguisher and drops it next to me, and takes off back inside to grab another one.
I grab the extinguisher and push the flames back into the dash enough to try to open the hood. I grab the lever and, nothing. The cable or whatever, had already been melted.
"Damn". I back up and flames start rolling into the front again, almost instantly. I then remember that my wallet is in the car, and then theres a loud explosion under the hood.
4 or 5 more guys come out with 2 or 3 more extinguishers. A couple guys start trying to get there cars, the hell away from mine.
I run back up and push the flames back again, enough to grab my wallet out of the console. I emptied 2 large extinguishers and at least 2 other guys emptied 1 each, and we hadnt even come close to getting it under control .
At this point I knew that was it. My car was gone.
One of the guys say, Ill call the Fire Dept.. I go back inside and sit down in the break room, and listen in disbelief.....
BOOM.....tire.
BOOM.....tire.
BOOM.....gastank.
BOOM.....hmm?
It then dawns on me that , I just filled my tank 2 days ago, so I had a little over 3/4 a tank. Perfect.
Looking out the window of the break room I see a co-worker run by.
Im thinking what now? Everyone moved there cars to the other side of the lot, what else could it be?
I walk out and look and ("un*#&$king believable" and laugh because at this point, its all I really can do.) The whole side of the building is on fire, inside and out.
Some of the guys try to put it out from the inside. I go back into the break room and sit down. The Fire Dept. gets there about 15 mins later, and spends 30 to 45 mins trying to put my car out.
A while after they put it out. Another guy and I go out with flashlights to take a peek.
Everything was gone from bumper to bumper. Everything. The only single piece of anything, under the hood, was the engine block. All the rest of the motor, and parts, and all the interior were just melted into nothing.
The block actually looked like it was on the ground, but I couldnt tell, cuz we were looking at the motor through the dash board area. The Fire Dept. had tried to open the hood and the trunk, but werent able to.
So now, not only am I out about $6000 for the car, but my companies landlord is holding me liable for all damages to the building, since I have no insurance.
There are no Supervisors on my shift, but when day shift supervisors came in they said all phones, internet, and electricity was out in the personel building. So the landlord (*******) calls an electrician to rewire everything, even though we have electricians at the plant.
So, how much more this is going to cost me, I dont know, but I dont think Ill be sleeping in any cars anytime soon.

Not that it really matters now, but if anyone knows what could have caused this, please post.

Later,
MetalTeK

What caused this was going to work drunk. You have insurance for my and everyone else's benefit, not your own. You are lucky if you have maxed out a bunch of credit cards recently, because the only option you will have is to file for bankruptcy. I'm sure you can't even afford a lawyer to defend and there is really no defense. :tisk: I'm not sorry for you at all.

BTW, I'm sure the landlord will also sue your employer, so perhaps you have put them out of business and unemployed all your co-workers. I do feel sorry for them.

Wow! I am sorry that had happen to you. You are lucky you didn't burn up with the car! That is so horrific. I don't know how I would react if that had happen to me. I hope everything works out for you! Good luck!


David

I see three very stupid things in this accident. Also, did you get the fuel rail recall done? If not, that makes 4.

1. Not having insurance.
2.Getting drunk on the job.
3. Sleeping in a parked, running car.

Hard luck, sir. Did you have the fuel rail campaign performed on your vehicle? Any work recently done?

Why would you sleep in a running parked car? That's just asking for CO poisoning!

The title of this thread was sure an understatement.
I know it seems bad right now but just thank God no one was hurt. All else can be fixed or replaced. You made some pretty bad decisions as you detailed in this thread. I hope if nothing else, you learned something from this whole mess.

The title of this thread was sure an understatement.
I know it seems bad right now but just thank God no one was hurt. All else can be fixed or replaced. You made some pretty bad decisions as you detailed in this thread. I hope if nothing else, you learned something from this whole mess.:yeah:

You may have placed your foot on the accelerator pedal while you were passed out causing the engine to over-rev and then throw a rod or god only knows what. This is what happened to a man sleeping in his car on a reality show I saw once... He fell asleep, the car revved out of control and eventually got so hot it caught fire, and they had to rescue him because he was totally out of it.

Guys, I think he learned his lesson.

Sorry about your loss. If you didn't have the fuel rail re-done under the free ongoing recall campaign, then it sounds to me like that's what caused it. Otherwise Playdrv4me may have an alternative theory posted above.

Seeing as you were drinking, you may have been more passed out than asleep. In most fires people die from smoke inhalation before they burn. I don't know if you understand just how lucky you are to be able to tell this tale. By all rights, they should have found your charred body in the wreckage. Someone wanted you to have a second chance. Your title should read A VERY LUCKY DAY. Count your blessings.

Wow.

As Ranger said, your lucky to be alive. Financially, your ****ed. IMO, slugging back a few beers at work isn't such a bad thing untill something really unfortunate happens - like this.

Pics?

Ranger is right, that was your lucky day, everything else can be replaced. If you're not legally responsible you are now because your post is very damaging evidence against you. By the way how could you have a caddie with no insurance? That's an accident waiting to happen. Count your blessings and Thank God.

Well, I say sure... falling asleep in a car that is turned on, is probably never a good idea --unless you're out in the middle of a snowstorm... but even then I would not "fall asleep."

He did not deliberately start the fire, by any means. He fell asleep. Someone would have to prove he was legally drunk--no breathalyzer. He made a dumb mistake, but a jury would have to determine the rest.

Count your blessings--you're lucky to be alive. Maybe one day you will look back and laugh at this. Especially at the fact that noone was injured, or lost their life.

This is what happened to a man sleeping in his car on a reality show I saw once... He fell asleep, the car revved out of control and eventually got so hot it caught fire, and they had to rescue him because he was totally out of it.

That was on COPS just last week. Caught the building on fire, too. It was an Olds or a Buick I think. When I saw it I thought to myself the 'puter in the Deville wouldn't let that happen. Doesn't let you rev too high in park. Plus the Corsa would wake me up anyway ;). The guy on COPS had a bad reaction to some medication - he wasn't drunk.

I slept off drunken stupors in my '67 LeMans lots of times. Running with the heat on, too (cold winters at Penn State). But I would climb in the back to get comfy (no heated, reclining seats in 1967). Loved that car. I could stretch out in the back and it was like being in bed at home. Except for the low clearance, which was only a problem when you were doing things other than sleeping back there.

Jim

I slept off drunken stupors in my '67 LeMans lots of times. Running with the heat on, too (cold winters at Penn State). But I would climb in the back to get comfy (no heated, reclining seats in 1967). Loved that car. I could stretch out in the back and it was like being in bed at home. Except for the low clearance, which was only a problem when you were doing things other than sleeping back there. Jim
That would make you about what height . . . . . 4' 9"? :) :) :)

Regards,
Warren

I doubt this was an over revving problem. I would bet it never had the fuel rail recall done.

That would make you about what height . . . . . 4' 9"? :) :) :)

Regards,
Warren

Okay, so I had to curl up a little. But a sleeping bag and a pillow made it a lot easier. In retrospect the trunk had a lot more room.....just harder to get out of.

Jim

WOW.....what a story, the best thing that could have happen to your drunken ass is that you choked on the smoke passed out and burned like a chicken in the car....than maybe the landlord and employer would get some money out of your deadbeat drunken non insurance paying ass, assuming you had life insurance but im sure an idoit like u do not, so every one is screwed to begin with, if your fellow employees wind up losing there jobs because of u they should burn you at the stake, your a loser and have no bussiness driving a cadillac you imature fool. I hope some one can figure out a way to forward these posts to the local authorites in your area so these posts can aid in your conviction and sentencing at your drunk driving trial, what where u thinking off driving drunk in the 1st place, then going to work in a factory?? What if your drunkeness injured one of your emplyess while on the job? What if you had killed a family in your drunken rage and with no insurance, what if some one had died or been injured in that fire? Would you have cared? Im sure you would have said your sorry, but you wouldnt be you would be crying about "MY CAR, MY CAR" Its people like you who drive up the costs of insurance premiums. YOUR AN IDIOT!

Jimmy ... why no insurance?
Looking at the work you've done on your DTS and Grand National, it couldn't have been lack of funds? It can't be lack of intelligence ... you literally ripped apart a complex vehicle and reassembled the interior and electronics.

Without insurance, if you seriously injure someone, kiss your life goodbye.
Hardly seems worth the risk, let alone the immorality of driving a Cadillac without benefit of insurance.
Might be time to leave the college hijinks behind and put down the bottle.

If you learned a life lesson, then best of luck to you. If you think it was just bad luck, then your downward spiral will continue. That was a wild post, scary in that you've shown no responsibility for directly causing this situation.
We've all done stupid things, but this was a real corker.

Jimmy ... why no insurance?
Looking at the work you've done on your DTS and Grand National, it couldn't have been lack of funds? It can't be lack of intelligence ... you literally ripped apart a complex vehicle and reassembled the interior and electronics.

Without insurance, if you seriously injure someone, kiss your life goodbye.
Hardly seems worth the risk, let alone the immorality of driving a Cadillac without benefit of insurance.
Might be time to leave the college hijinks behind and put down the bottle.

If you learned a life lesson, then best of luck to you. If you think it was just bad luck, then your downward spiral will continue. That was a wild post, scary in that you've shown no responsibility for directly causing this situation.
We've all done stupid things, but this was a real corker.Uh, Ted, it wasn't Jimmy who has no insurance, it was MetalTek. Jimmy was just sharing stuff that he did years ago.

Jimmy ... why no insurance?
Looking at the work you've done on your DTS and Grand National, it couldn't have been lack of funds? It can't be lack of intelligence ... you literally ripped apart a complex vehicle and reassembled the interior and electronics.

Without insurance, if you seriously injure someone, kiss your life goodbye.
Hardly seems worth the risk, let alone the immorality of driving a Cadillac without benefit of insurance.
Might be time to leave the college hijinks behind and put down the bottle.

If you learned a life lesson, then best of luck to you. If you think it was just bad luck, then your downward spiral will continue. That was a wild post, scary in that you've shown no responsibility for directly causing this situation.
We've all done stupid things, but this was a real corker.
To paraphrase Kev,

:yeah:

Regards,
Warren

EDIT: "Uh, Ted, it wasn't Jimmy who has no insurance, it was MetalTek. Jimmy was just sharing stuff that he did years ago."
Sorry I missed that. Apologies to Jim.

Regards again,
Warren

I hate to be an ass but I'm going to anyway.

Where the pics at?

Wow, what a set of circumstances. I wonder if the man omitted to say that he was drinking and that he did not have any insurance, if we would as a group be so hard on him? Drinking and Driving has become such a social ill that really misses the point. As you will attest Ted, our home province spends thousands of manhours every holiday to nab in Ride Patrols people who drink and drive. Yet for all that, they seem to catch more everyyear so its obvious that people no longer want to listen. I also would be a little less harsh about insurance until we know what all the facts are. It does not take much here in Ontario to become an insurance leper, some horror stories include being forced into facility (insurance of the last resort, big big $), after one or two minor tickets, these are good people, not drunks or people who scofflaw, yet the system has let them down big time, I am sure its the same in some of the states. I am not condoning this man's action, nor making light of anyone who has been killed by a drunk driver, and it sounds to me that this place of work, discretely condones this behaviour of drinking on the job, therefore if it was not this man, perhaps it would have been someone else.

WOW.....what a story, the best thing that could have happen to your drunken ass is that you choked on the smoke passed out and burned like a chicken in the car....than maybe the landlord and employer would get some money out of your deadbeat drunken non insurance paying ass, assuming you had life insurance but im sure an idoit like u do not, so every one is screwed to begin with, if your fellow employees wind up losing there jobs because of u they should burn you at the stake, your a loser and have no bussiness driving a cadillac you imature fool. I hope some one can figure out a way to forward these posts to the local authorites in your area so these posts can aid in your conviction and sentencing at your drunk driving trial, what where u thinking off driving drunk in the 1st place, then going to work in a factory?? What if your drunkeness injured one of your emplyess while on the job? What if you had killed a family in your drunken rage and with no insurance, what if some one had died or been injured in that fire? Would you have cared? Im sure you would have said your sorry, but you wouldnt be you would be crying about "MY CAR, MY CAR" Its people like you who drive up the costs of insurance premiums. YOUR AN IDIOT!

I'm inclined to echo Caddyshack. I'm sure he understands that he's screwed for years, and I'm sure he's genuinely sorry for causing a ruckus... however... the question he asked was "How could this have happened?" not "Did I do anything wrong?" So let's not be so hard on the Beaver... that's the system's job.

Tommy I genuinely feel sorry for any loss you may have had at the hands of drunken drivers or insurance companies, but there was definitely some misplaced aggression in that last post. He was sleeping in a running car (a mistake except in only the extremest of circumstances) and his car caught on fire (which is arguably his fault for not getting recall work done, but we'll never really know). Cars shouldn't catch on fire just from them idling for a period of time. That's extremely abnormal.

There's personal responsibility in every situation, but lets not lay the problems of the world at his feet. His employer is probably insured. If he is not, then it's the employers fault if his co-workers are out of work. And don't believe all the hyperbole about insurance companies being at the mercy of poor driver risk... they are doing a lot better than they let on.

Well said beemer2k.

After such a diabolical incident, the last thing someone wants to hear is "shame shame" he knows that. Im assuming the earlier posters have children so, chastise them. Yea it was a ill advised thing to do, BUT no one was hurt (thank dog) and Im pretty sure he learned a most valuable lesson (I really hope so).

Strange, because I have done the same thing (not loaded though) a couple of times and the only bad part was running out of gas!

Possible fuel rail involvement sounds like a culprit.

And in an open parking lot I seriosly doubt carbon monoxide would have been an issue. The fact that the owners manual states not to run a car at park with the engine running is a legal statement as a "posibility" to something bad happening.

Ok, Ok, its there for a reason.

Man you are lucky to be alive is the main thing.

I hope it works out and next time.........

<<<<<<<Tommy I genuinely feel sorry for any loss you may have had at the hands of drunken drivers or insurance companies, but there was definitely some misplaced aggression in that last post. He was sleeping in a running car (a mistake except in only the extremest of circumstances) and his car caught on fire (which is arguably his fault for not getting recall work done, but we'll never really know). Cars shouldn't catch on fire just from them idling for a period of time. That's extremely abnormal.>>>>>>


I am very lucky that I may self have not directly lost anyone to a drunk drving accident, Had a firend or two locked up for it. Every now and then you pick up one of these local papers and you see a big headline drunken driver kills himself/friend/pedestrian.......etc. I

Its inexcuseable. As a profesional Driver I take the privleage of having a drivers Licence seriously, My pops always told me over and over how a car is not a toy its 4000 pound weapon. I will tell my kids the sme thing. Driving Drunk/High what ever, no excuse lets not forget the moron drove to work, in a factory drunk, and started to operate heavy machinery. I mean Cmon!:cookoo:

Now my loss came from a fire, a fire that whiped out my fathers bussiness from some one who had no regard for anyones property, I cant get into speciefics, its to long and drawn out, but needless to say Insurance was giving the runaround the landlord was holding us accountable for the fire, and we had no recourse because of lack of insurance though the party that caused the Fire, My father, My family though small, nearly lost EVERYTHING!
Now though hard work, mostly my Dads we got MOST of it back.That was nearly 16 years ago, It was never the same.

Ive got no sympathy for METAL-DOUCHE he nearly runied countless lives, his whole post had no remorse or accountablitly. Reading this morons post I felt like I time traveled back 16 yrs.

GOD IM ANGRY!:rant2:

My pops always told me over and over how a car is not a toy its 4000 pound weapon. I will tell my kids the sme thing.

Oddly enough my father told me the EXACT same thing when he was teaching me how to drive my weapon.

If I may butt in here for a moment...

What is this "fuel rail" problem and is it specific only to the Seville?

Tommy, it was good of you to share the 'human' side of tragedy, sometimes we cannot see the forest for the trees. As a professional truck driver trainer, I always get upset when I hear that someone has been killed or hurt by a drunk driver. Would it make them feel any better if the person who killed someone or hurt them was not drunk? One of our greatest problems is that we cannot stop a person from getting behind the wheel even if their licence has been revoked. A licence is only a piece of paper, that person does not lose the ability to drive. I have had to stop many a driver from operating Heavy equipment or 'A' or 'B' trains, because their licence has been suspended for DUI. This was after they had served their time in jail. As far as fairness in insurance, the only way and granted its radical, is to remove all requirements for insurance. This way insurance companies will go back to competing for clients instead of picking and choosing who they want. In Ontario we used to have a system called unsatisfied judgement, its time that came back. A car is not a weapon unless its in the hands of someone who wants to use it that way.

So right everyone is about drinking and driving,had he just took the day off he would have only lost a days pay,but instead he lost his car,maybe his job, endangered everyones life on his way to work,and most likely his employers respect not to mention many other things. If you can afford to drink you can afford a cab it's much cheaper and cost effect then the alternatives

If I may butt in here for a moment...

What is this "fuel rail" problem and is it specific only to the Seville?


All Northstars are affected U should get the recall notice in the mail, or stop by your local Caddy dealer and have them run your VIN

Thanks Tommy:

I bought it used ('97 deVille) so I won't be getting a recall notice. I'll have a Cad dealer check into it.

Welcome, Has any one noticed Metal-Douche has not posted again? Perhaps hes been locked up, or to embrassed to post again after the though ass kicking he has taken by me & others

Thanks Tommy:

I bought it used ('97 deVille) so I won't be getting a recall notice. I'll have a Cad dealer check into it.

Actually I got the recall notice when I bought my 95 ETC used last year. How the local dealer knew I purchased it, I do not know... But yes, you should still call your dealer.

I'll post this here as well...

Make : CADILLAC
Model : SEVILLE
Year : 1996
Manufacturer : GENERAL MOTORS CORP.
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 04V110000
Mfg's Report Date : MAR 03, 2004
Component: FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE
DELIVERY:HOSES, LINES/PIPING, AND FITTINGS
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 483477

Summary:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/images/spacer.gif SOME PASSENGER VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH 4.0L V8 ENGINES HAVE A CONDITION IN WHICH THE NYLON TUBING USED IN THE FUEL RAIL CONSTRUCTION MAY DEGRADE AND CRACK. ADDITIONALLY, THE 1995 MODEL YEAR USES A UNIQUE UNDERHOOD FUEL RETURN LINE THAT MAY CRACK. CRACKING OF THE FUEL RAIL OR RETURN LINE TUBING CAN RESULT IN A FUEL LEAK INTO THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT. Consequence:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/images/spacer.gif FUEL LEAKAGE, IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IGNITION SOURCE, COULD RESULT IN A FIRE.

Remedy:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/images/spacer.gif DEALERS WILL INSPECT AND, IF NECESSARY, REPLACE THE ENGINE FUEL RAIL WITH A NEW STAINLESS STEEL FUEL RAIL. DEALERS WILL ALSO INSTALL A REVISED CHASSIS FUEL RETURN LINE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON JUNE 2, 2004, FOR 1996-1997 OLDSMOBILE AURORA VEHICLES. OWNERS OF 1995 CADILLACS AND 1996-1997 OLDSMOBILE AURORA WERE SENT LETTERS ON AUGUST 6, 2004. ADDITIONAL LETTERS TO OWNERS WILL BE FORTHCOMING. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT OLDSMOBILE AT 1-800-630-6537.

Notes:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/images/spacer.gif GM RECALL NO. 04014. CUSTOMERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION’S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).

i feel you and your pain.. i had the almost the same thing happen to me.. in my 1999 chrysler 300M.. i was driving it and i smelt smoke and i didnt thinkof it and thne all the sudden my car enegine just started on fire.. and sat on the side of road and burned was terrible.. but one good thing i guess i had INSURANCE!! damn man! and now i got my 2002 cadillac seville sts.. and im glad my chrysler burned up. it sucks but what the hell

any before and after pics?????

All Northstars are affected U should get the recall notice in the mail, or stop by your local Caddy dealer and have them run your VIN


I don't believe this is necessarily true. It was only a year or two span, I believe like 95 to 97 or something similar. And I'm not even sure it was ALL N*s within that time frame. In any case, a quick call to a dealer with the VIN will tell for sure.

It couldn't be ALL Northstars, since once the recall started, an E/C was made to convert all forthcoming engines to stainless steel.

Knowledgeable persons are encouraged to correct me if I'm wrong..

Just got back from the dealer -- had to pick up a radio speaker for the front door and then beg my mechanic to install it for me... :worship:

Anyway, while I was at the dealer I had them run the VIN and there we never any recalls for my car, '97 deVille. Or perhaps not in Canada.

Ranger is right, that was your lucky day, everything else can be replaced. If you're not legally responsible you are now because your post is very damaging evidence against you. By the way how could you have a caddie with no insurance? That's an accident waiting to happen. Count your blessings and Thank God.

Things said on the net cannot be used as evidence in a court room.

Thanks BobKat for asking, I was going to stop in and see mine. I looked at my fuel rail on my northstar and its not stainless steel, its some kind of pvc. You may be right about the recalls not being in Canada. Transport Canada is only authourity here to order a recall, GM could also voluntarily, and what is recalled here may not be in the states, if you recall the ABS issue with GM pickup trucks, now Gm has started doing the recall in some of the northern most states.

Thanks BobKat for asking, I was going to stop in and see mine. I looked at my fuel rail on my northstar and its not stainless steel, its some kind of pvc. You may be right about the recalls not being in Canada. Transport Canada is only authourity here to order a recall, GM could also voluntarily, and what is recalled here may not be in the states, if you recall the ABS issue with GM pickup trucks, now Gm has started doing the recall in some of the northern most states.

The recall I believe is from 1995 up to 1997. The 98 has a different material--that looks like nylon, but it was not recalled.

THis site will tell you: www.mygmlink.com and it's free.

The recall was for all '95 - '97 Northstars but for some reason did not include Canada. If you live in Canada and have a '95 - '97, I'd bite the bullet and buy a stainless steel fuel rail and change it yourself. That would be cheaper than the alternative.

Thanks Ranger. What exactly is the fuel "rail" anyway? Is it the line from the tank to the motor or what? I'm clueless. :confused:

The fuel rail is the lines that connect the fuel injectors. You'll see one line going across the tops of the inectors on each side of the intake, and both are connected together. That's the fuel rail.

falling asleep in a car that is turned on, is probably never a good idea --unless you're out in the middle of a snowstorm... but even then I would not "fall asleep."


Asleep or not, idling a car in a snowstorm is dangerous if enough snow builds up around your car to impede exhaust from leaving the airspace around the car. The CO can build up, and CO2 as well.

I always carry a sleeping bag in every vehicle I own and I live in Arizona. You people up north should probably carry several!

This is the best thread ever!

Wow... I read the first part was like, oh snap. Then it was like OH SNAP, and then it was like HOLY ****IN SNAP.....

Just be glad no one died otherwise you would be in a world of hurt.

I hate to be an ass but I'm going to anyway.

Where the pics at?

LOL!!!

All Northstars are affected U should get the recall notice in the mail, or stop by your local Caddy dealer and have them run your VIN

No, not all N* 95 and newer i think

'95 - '97 only and I never got a notice. I had to call Cadillac. The dealer would not do anything til Caddy gave them the OK.

Insurance is still good for 30 days after it expires.

Yeah, but try collecting on a claim like this.

Yeah, but try collecting on a claim like this.

I correct that last note, I was thinking about life insurance or something. Auto insurance wont pay.

My wife bought a brand new Cadillac back in 94 with cash, did not bother to buy insurance because she thought her driving was so great that she would never have an accident. On the way to give her graduation speech, an illegal alien (mexican) ran a light and destroyed her brand new car. Uninsured guy, and not from this country. She lost 2 week old car and every penny she paid, and never got to give her speech. This is a true story.

Insurance is important!

Here in NY there is no choice no insurance no drive. You can go without collision/comprehensive. but you must be covered for injuries and property damage. I before I started my company I worked for another carpet cleaning outfit we were 300 feet into a buiding with the machine/truck running (2000 rpm) The truck caught fire and we had no idea until it was already burning the face off a new office complex. This is why we carry a 2 million liability policy.

Everywhere requires insurance. That doesnt mean that someone with expired tags and no insurance isnt driving around. It does happen, might not even be their vehicle. They just get in and drive. Most have suspended liscense also. Make a really sweet deal when something happens......

Whatever happen to the person that started this thread? I am curious to know what happen. Talk about learning a lesson the hard way. I would never drive a car without insurance, that is a no no! :tisk:


David

http://q45.spilky.com/gallery/d/2037-1/cunningplan.gif

That is the greatest contribution to a thread I've ever seen, Jesda, and it was definately worth bumping a month old thread for. :bigroll:

i was gonna say bad Dave bad for resurecting this old thread ha ha notice how the guy never made any more responces i feel bad for him

I was quick to check this old link too..see if our pal is out of the pokey yet...I figure he's gotta be in there.
Seriously.....

kp

That is the greatest contribution to a thread I've ever seen, Jesda, and it was definately worth bumping a month old thread for. :bigroll:

Indeed. :)

Anyone figure out where he is from? Mebbe we can search newspaper archives online. Stuff like this should have made the news.

Cars shouldn't catch on fire just from them idling for a period of time. That's extremely abnormal.



My 86 Mercury Topaz caught on fire after idling about 20 minutes on a 90-plus degree day then driving 45-55 miles. The fire started behind the glove compartment and came out the defrosters.

In 1988 a friend was filling her Cougar's gas tank and the car caught on fire. It may have been idling previously.

But I agree, it's a very unusual thing to happen.

Thread resurrection! Got to love it!

David

OMG -- we need a smiley of a coffin or something for these old long dead threads............

What caused this was going to work drunk. You have insurance for my and everyone else's benefit, not your own. You are lucky if you have maxed out a bunch of credit cards recently, because the only option you will have is to file for bankruptcy. I'm sure you can't even afford a lawyer to defend and there is really no defense. :tisk: I'm not sorry for you at all.

BTW, I'm sure the landlord will also sue your employer, so perhaps you have put them out of business and unemployed all your co-workers. I do feel sorry for them.

What a prick! I'm gonna laugh when your shit catches on fire and takes out your house!

THIS THREAD IS ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF OLD! :annoyed:

30 rack of Bud Light + munchies: $25.00 :alchi:

Three fire extinguisher recharge fees: $39.00 :bighead:

Car insurance: no cost if you don’t have it :hmm:

Still being abused on the Internet for unmatched stupidity 18 months later: priceless :thepan:

30 rack of Bud Light + munchies: $25.00 :alchi:

Three fire extinguisher recharge fees: $39.00 :bighead:

Car insurance: no cost if you don’t have it :hmm:

Still being abused on the Internet for unmatched stupidity 18 months later: priceless :thepan:

Wow that just really cracked me up,thanx chubby great wayto start my THANKSGIVING.
But on a more serious note, I do kinda feel sorry for him, all that he lost...not to mention the barrage of attacks he's obviously received as a result. I really do hope he learned from this and i hope others learned from it as well.:helpless:I wish he would have stuck around to give more details on what happened. Why he didnt have insurance, if the cops were coming from him, how many people sued or wanted to...and so on.

Funny though, he said that he started drinking at work?? If so he was in the car on a break?? am guessing car was running so as not to drain the battery right??
Well Unless i missed something here, why was he being accused of drunk driving?

30 rack of Bud Light + munchies: $25.00 :alchi:

Three fire extinguisher recharge fees: $39.00 :bighead:

Car insurance: no cost if you don’t have it :hmm:

Still being abused on the Internet for unmatched stupidity 18 months later: priceless :thepan:


HAHAHA awesome! what ever happened to Metal Douche?
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Wow that just really cracked me up,thanx chubby great wayto start my THANKSGIVING.
But on a more serious note, I do kinda feel sorry for him, all that he lost...not to mention the barrage of attacks he's obviously received as a result. I really do hope he learned from this and i hope others learned from it as well.:helpless:I wish he would have stuck around to give more details on what happened. Why he didnt have insurance, if the cops were coming from him, how many people sued or wanted to...and so on.

Funny though, he said that he started drinking at work?? If so he was in the car on a break?? am guessing car was running so as not to drain the battery right??
Well Unless i missed something here, why was he being accused of drunk driving?


Re-read the orginal posting, that scumbag was watching the game & already "hitting the sauce" b4 work.
Glad that backwards inbreed hick isn't posting anymore, hopefully he never drives another Caddy again as they are too good for him.

I do agree that what the guy did was a series of bad choices, however I do not believe that his intent was to set out and cause harm to anyone. Motive and intent are huge in what should determine ones punishment. I don't think financial ruin for many years is quite fair. Granted, the world isn't fair, however have a little sympathy for the guy. The guy drank when he shouldn't have and didn't have insurance. Those were his crimes. Idling a car for a long period of time isn't a crime. We've all made bad choices and most of us came out lucky on the consequences. He, unfortunately didn't.

Re-read the orginal posting, that scumbag was watching the game & already "hitting the sauce" b4 work.
Glad that backwards inbreed hick isn't posting anymore, hopefully he never drives another Caddy again as they are too good for him.

My bad:o...Well in any case am glad no one was injured.Hope all turns out well for all involved...families, friends, co-workers, employer....And also sorry bout what happened to your family Tommy:)

Sorry for your loss, man. Not sure how we can help you except for a few prayers.

I do agree that what the guy did was a series of bad choices, however I do not believe that his intent was to set out and cause harm to anyone. Motive and intent are huge in what should determine ones punishment. I don't think financial ruin for many years is quite fair. Granted, the world isn't fair, however have a little sympathy for the guy. The guy drank when he shouldn't have and didn't have insurance. Those were his crimes. Idling a car for a long period of time isn't a crime. We've all made bad choices and most of us came out lucky on the consequences. He, unfortunately didn't.


The only crime here is that that scumbag didn't burn up in the car than spend a few extrusciating painfull weeks in a burn unit slowly dying.
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