: Report all diff problems



Jesda
02-05-06, 02:15 PM
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/complain/

Joey'sVee
02-05-06, 02:29 PM
Can someone explain what this site is, what they do with the info, and how this will help. I'm going to post a compliant but I would like to know exactly what the site does. Thanks!


:D

MacOSR
02-05-06, 02:51 PM
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration

heavymetals
02-05-06, 02:56 PM
Reported mine

heavymetals
02-05-06, 02:57 PM
Can someone explain what this site is, what they do with the info, and how this will help. I'm going to post a compliant but I would like to know exactly what the site does. Thanks!


:D

Go to the site and read the instructions.

It creates a Federal database.

It sometimes triggers recalls.

It can give the auto companies major heartburn.

MacOSR
02-05-06, 03:00 PM
Reported mine

wildwhl
02-05-06, 03:22 PM
Done, finally.

Curious - some will report under 04, 05 or 06...will they compile them together for the platform, or should we all just say report them as 05's?

heavymetals
02-05-06, 03:26 PM
I was gonna call on monday and bring that to their (NHTSA) attention as I assume GM is gonna try to fold in these failures with the regular CTS and skew the results in their favor.

wildwhl
02-05-06, 03:32 PM
True, they might. There have been substantial CTS/SRX failures too (whining only that I know of) but I'm doubtful those complaints are there.

ace996
02-05-06, 04:06 PM
Complaint submitted...

CVP33
02-05-06, 10:42 PM
Tonight I reported the information below to the NHTSA. If this helps even one V owner I've done my best.

2005 Cadillac CTS-V
VIN 1G6DN56S25013XXXX
Purchased 12/16/2004

Reported to NHTSA – Complaint # 10149XXX



4/11/05 – 8,367 Miles – 1 day out of service
 Rear End Failure

4/28/05 – 9,664 Miles – 5 days out of service
 Rear Bushing Failure
 Rear End Failure

5/5/05 – 9,720 Miles – 1 day out of service
 Rear End Failure
 Wheel delivered from factory will not balance – no sign of damage

7/25/05 – 15,732 Miles – 4 days out of service
 PCM recall #05544– dealer unable to reprogram
 Rear end hops wildly in rainy or slick roads when accelerating
 Hard shifting into 1st gear
 Rear end whine
 Drive line clunk
 Parking Brake goes to floor and won’t stop car
 Rear End Failure
 Dealer replaced rear differential and did not add friction modifier, claimed CTS-V’s do not need – later determined this was incorrect

8/29/05 – 17,372 Miles – 22 days out of service
 Rear end grinding – Friction modifier added
 Transmission rebuilt
 Replaced Pressure Plate
 Replaced Clutch – TSB 05-07-31-001
 Rear End bushings installed to reduce wheel hop TSB – 05-04-114-001A
 Navigation system replaced after all buttons were peeling
 Parking Brake goes to floor and won’t stop car
 PCM Recall performed

10/6/05 – 18,990 Miles – 0 day out of service
 Navigation System not programmed properly by dealership – returned for repair

11/5/05 – 22,151 Miles – 0 day out of service
 Replace all center caps – peeling

1/2/06 – 27,171 Miles – 10 days out of service
 Rear End Failure
 Radiator Failure – TSB 05-06-02-005A
 Sun Visor replaced due to peeling

1/19/06 – 27,538 miles – 6 hours out of service
 PCM removed and replaced at ASM's request

1/26/06 – 28,000 miles – 2 hours out of service
 Navigation System removed and replaced

2/4/06 – 28,500 miles - ?
 Transmission failure again – will not shift into Reverse, hard to shift into 1st gear

ace996
02-05-06, 11:50 PM
That must have taken quite a bit of time, Chris. Thanks for your help.
-ace

DARCAR
02-06-06, 01:12 AM
True, they might. There have been substantial CTS/SRX failures too (whining only that I know of) but I'm doubtful those complaints are there.

I have an 06 3.6L Sports package Cts with 3000 klms on it. Took mine into the dealer last week to complain about a fluid leak from the rear end. They checked it out and said the rear diff. seal is leaking and they would order a new one in for me. Is my problem worthy of a complaint,( would it help you guy's out at all), or should I hold off and see if I have any other problems with it?
Chris

heavymetals
02-06-06, 01:49 AM
Being in Canada, your complaint might not carry any weight, but give it a try.

DARCAR
02-06-06, 02:01 AM
Being in Canada, your complaint might not carry any weight, but give it a try.
Ok, I will give it a shot, you never know.

wicked v
02-06-06, 02:16 AM
I just filed a complaint about the whine. My diff has not failed yet with 22,000 miles on it. It has always whined and the dealer told me that was normal. I DONT THINK SO!

heavymetals
02-06-06, 02:35 AM
I just filed a complaint about the whine. My diff has not failed yet with 22,000 miles on it. It has always whined and the dealer told me that was normal. I DONT THINK SO!

Like I said, YOU DON"T HAVE TO HAVE A FAILURE TO FILE A COMPLAINT!

You do need a VIN#.

austin
02-06-06, 08:06 AM
>Curious - some will report under 04, 05 or 06...will they compile them together for the platform, or should we all just say report them as 05's?

Report what year you have, keep it accurate.

stkshkr
02-06-06, 01:38 PM
Done

Florian
02-06-06, 03:36 PM
submitted......


F

1badcady
02-06-06, 08:07 PM
Just submited mine, 06 diff already started with the wine &
leaking on the right side WTF, its only been 2 weeks @ most!!!!:

trekster
02-06-06, 11:31 PM
Just submitted my complaint.

VelieVer ttt
02-07-06, 12:16 AM
Submitted complaint.

verbs
02-10-06, 05:13 PM
There's not even 30 on that list, there has to be more.

verbs
02-10-06, 05:33 PM
Repost master

JRoller
02-12-06, 11:57 PM
Submitted

gparmlee
02-14-06, 07:15 PM
What did GM do for you? or did I miss that. I'm having similar problems and have requested that GM buy my car back.



Tonight I reported the information below to the NHTSA. If this helps even one V owner I've done my best.

2005 Cadillac CTS-V
VIN 1G6DN56S25013XXXX
Purchased 12/16/2004

Reported to NHTSA – Complaint # 10149XXX



4/11/05 – 8,367 Miles – 1 day out of service
 Rear End Failure

4/28/05 – 9,664 Miles – 5 days out of service
 Rear Bushing Failure
 Rear End Failure

5/5/05 – 9,720 Miles – 1 day out of service
 Rear End Failure
 Wheel delivered from factory will not balance – no sign of damage

7/25/05 – 15,732 Miles – 4 days out of service
 PCM recall #05544– dealer unable to reprogram
 Rear end hops wildly in rainy or slick roads when accelerating
 Hard shifting into 1st gear
 Rear end whine
 Drive line clunk
 Parking Brake goes to floor and won’t stop car
 Rear End Failure
 Dealer replaced rear differential and did not add friction modifier, claimed CTS-V’s do not need – later determined this was incorrect

8/29/05 – 17,372 Miles – 22 days out of service
 Rear end grinding – Friction modifier added
 Transmission rebuilt
 Replaced Pressure Plate
 Replaced Clutch – TSB 05-07-31-001
 Rear End bushings installed to reduce wheel hop TSB – 05-04-114-001A
 Navigation system replaced after all buttons were peeling
 Parking Brake goes to floor and won’t stop car
 PCM Recall performed

10/6/05 – 18,990 Miles – 0 day out of service
 Navigation System not programmed properly by dealership – returned for repair

11/5/05 – 22,151 Miles – 0 day out of service
 Replace all center caps – peeling

1/2/06 – 27,171 Miles – 10 days out of service
 Rear End Failure
 Radiator Failure – TSB 05-06-02-005A
 Sun Visor replaced due to peeling

1/19/06 – 27,538 miles – 6 hours out of service
 PCM removed and replaced at ASM's request

1/26/06 – 28,000 miles – 2 hours out of service
 Navigation System removed and replaced

2/4/06 – 28,500 miles - ?
 Transmission failure again – will not shift into Reverse, hard to shift into 1st gear

gparmlee
02-14-06, 07:20 PM
Diff problems, at 21,919 miles

CVP33
02-14-06, 08:40 PM
GM did nothing. Informed me that I should sue them. In VA I can be counter sued by GM for damages. Also, the total amount I can get is current mileage divide by 100,000 times purchase price. You can also get additional damages that you can prove such as lost time from work, stained driveway (leaking diff), etc. In my case trade in was a better deal than a buyback or having to sue.

And for the record my V currently sits at the Chrysler dealer as they "work it out" with GM to replace the transmission (its second). I'd love to hear that conversation. :highfive:

wildwhl
02-15-06, 01:27 AM
CVP, you V/diff killer you :nono:

CVP33
02-15-06, 10:28 PM
CVP, you V/diff killer you :nono:

They started it first. :lildevil:

lonestranger
02-16-06, 06:53 PM
Complaint so submitted. Incidentially, I am waiting for the dealer to get the parts (new differential and updated clutch) to administer to my semi-trusty stead. The dealer (Tropical Cadillac, here in Bradenton, FL) has so far been very willing to deal with the situation. :thumbsup: When everything is done, I will definitely post a rating on the dealership.:) Incidentily, I briefed the assistant service manager, Mr. Chad Chupka, on the Forum and the fact that we share the ratings for good dealerships (and especially the bad ones!!:stirpot: )
He said he understood fully the need for such a system!! We shall see!:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

livingthedream
02-16-06, 09:09 PM
Just got a new diff ordered for my 05 V. Complained about the 'clunk' and the fact that what used to be the singing rear end in 4th had now expanded from 3rd to 6th.

Dealer ordered it up, gave me the car back and will replace in warranty once it arrived from Michigan.

:)

urbanski
02-17-06, 01:54 PM
submitted

naiculnila
02-17-06, 11:13 PM
10150571 - DONE

BBB.org also Files

Attorney General also filed

wildwhl
02-17-06, 11:22 PM
naiculnila -

Talk to us about BBB. If we can file with some sort of uniform method it would help.

WW - 3rd diff finally whining despite several flushes with quality synthetic and excessive abusive driving :histeric:

ace996
02-17-06, 11:37 PM
10150571 - DONE

BBB.org also Files

Attorney General also filed
Good for you! I'm in about 1.5months, expect another 30 days...then time to find another car, something NON-GM.
-ace

V-Smooth
03-06-06, 12:20 PM
Ok, brand new to the forum and just purchased a '06 CTS-V this past Sat. :cloud9: (YEAH!!) wanted to know if I should still post....? :hmm:

Did they fix this problem in '06? thx!

PHUQKINFAST
03-07-06, 01:09 PM
My 04 with 23,000 is in the shop awaiting new rear diff.
It's not a matter of if ... just when. My number was up.

Twanika
03-08-06, 04:55 PM
I have an 06 3.6L Sports package Cts with 3000 klms on it. Took mine into the dealer last week to complain about a fluid leak from the rear end. They checked it out and said the rear diff. seal is leaking and they would order a new one in for me. Is my problem worthy of a complaint,( would it help you guy's out at all), or should I hold off and see if I have any other problems with it?
Chris

I am shock to hear this stuff. I purchased a 2006, CTS, 3.6 w/ sport package with 3600 miles. Dealer's car. Drove car home on Saturday. Had to bring car back the following Friday due to a leak at rear end of car. I saw thick oil spots on garage floor. (Rear end seal) Cadillac fixed the problem but are you saying these cars have rear end problems?:thepan:

verbs
03-09-06, 11:21 AM
Wow, only 35 complaints between 04 and 05. Where's everyone else!

Barak
03-28-06, 02:20 PM
11,500 miles and my diff finally has a noticeable whine. I knew it was inevitable, but I always wondered whether the diff would break before it would start whining. I also wondered if this forum would create ghost whines in my head, but now that I can hear it over the radio, I'm certain that it is not merely my perception.

I plan to file my complaint as soon as I see what the dealer will do. My question is, where in SoCal is a good dealer to have my diff replaced? I've heard Whittier and Tustin are good dealerships, any other suggestions? All the dealerships close to me are under the evil grip of Larry Marvin, the imports MVP.

heavymetals
03-28-06, 02:55 PM
I use PENSKE (Torrance) and they treat me great.

Most dealerships know that the rear end is a POS and it is just a matter of how many you have gone through and wether it is leaking or howling.

Sorry for your problem.

Correction. Since my new one (an 05 not an 06 darn it) was installed, I have no whine or leaks. I do believe that not only is the diff underated, but that there was a production problem resulting in even more failures.

LV_V
04-12-06, 03:29 PM
I had my **5th** rear diff installed a month and a half ago, the '06 model, and its started to whine even worse than the previous diffs that were replaced because of severe whine. This one has started to sound like a jet taking off and slowing down between about 5mph and 45mph. C'mon GM wtf!

TampaV
04-13-06, 08:03 AM
I just had the diff replaced for the first time on my 8,700 mile '05. The dealer was very good about it. They had their lead tech guy ride with me and agreed the diff needed to be replaced. Ordered an '06 diff and installed it yesterday. It's nice and quiet so far. Time will tell how long it stays that way.

v-ape
04-13-06, 04:57 PM
I just got a used CTS-V with 18k miles on it. At about 19k I noticed a whine, took it in to the dealer, they are replacing the bearings now (under warranty)

heavymetals
04-13-06, 05:09 PM
I just got a used CTS-V with 18k miles on it. At about 19k I noticed a whine, took it in to the dealer, they are replacing the bearings now (under warranty)

What bearings?

They are not supposed to "rebuild" the diff from what I gather.

They are supposed to replace the whole unit.

benjet
04-13-06, 08:37 PM
Here's an experiment....

Go to a nice empty parking lot do some slow (yes I said SLOW!) full 360 turns at full lock - or even near full lock (much like you would be when doing a parking manuever), listen to the rear have a SUPER upset tummy, sounds alot like (glass) marbles were added. Lovely.

street
04-14-06, 01:54 AM
Mine Has Been Reported

v-ape
04-14-06, 07:56 AM
What bearings?

They are not supposed to "rebuild" the diff from what I gather.

They are supposed to replace the whole unit.

Thats what the Lindsay Cadillac service guy said, but then again, hes not the tech so perhaps they are replacing it... I know they have it over the weekend and I have a CTS loaner. I asked for a V, but they werent down with that.

I asked the guy to pull the service record for this car and it looks as though

-the tranny/transaxle assembly was replaced at 17k for propshaft speed vibration (I'm not sure what that is).

-the rear diff. carrier assembly was replaced at 15k. <-- is this the same as the whole rear diff?

-SDM was also replaced at 15k(I'm not sure what that is either)

-Also the car is on its 3rd sunroof switch.

I just got this car a few weeks ago and although all of this is free and covered under the warranty, I'd much rather be driving my V than a loaner CTS. I worry about what will happen in 2yrs when my warranty is up.... Extended warranty is starting to look like a good option.

heavymetals
04-14-06, 01:23 PM
When you get the car back, check the paperwork for the part #'s of what was replaced.

The #'s for the diff have been posted (both old and new).

I would recommend you buy the extended warranty.

v-ape
04-17-06, 02:04 PM
What bearings?

They are not supposed to "rebuild" the diff from what I gather.

They are supposed to replace the whole unit.

Well the new news is that they are ordering shims for the differential. I spoke with the tech writer and he said they dont replace the diff if it can be repaired. I dont know why I'm not getting a new diff, but apparently I dont need it. The dealership I went to is the only "Gold" dealer listed on the cadillacfaq.com site, Lindsay Cadillac (Alexandria, VA). I would assume they are good since everyone rates them as a "10". Then again, it could be them that created the website :)

NOPISTONS
04-21-06, 02:48 PM
Maybe the first 06 V to get a new diff truck tire type sound coming from the rear in neutral rolling to a stop. Love the new diff the car feels new again smoother clunking is not as bad.

v-ape
04-21-06, 03:33 PM
Well the new news is that they are ordering shims for the differential. I spoke with the tech writer and he said they dont replace the diff if it can be repaired. I dont know why I'm not getting a new diff, but apparently I dont need it. The dealership I went to is the only "Gold" dealer listed on the cadillacfaq.com site, Lindsay Cadillac (Alexandria, VA). I would assume they are good since everyone rates them as a "10". Then again, it could be them that created the website :)

Ok, now I'm on round 2. Apparently after replacing/shimming the bearings for the diff, it will still making the noise so they need the car some more. I just wish they would replace it with an 06 diff. because I have a feeling that the problem isnt in the bearings but in the diff design. Oh well, I have the car under waranty for another couple of years, they may just get sick of seeing it. One piece of good news is that they gave me a loaner CTS with 700 miles on it. Its no V, but at least its new. Its to the point now where they have had my car longer than I have since I got it 4 weeks ago and they've had it for at least 2 of those (if its done on Monday YEAH RIGHT!!!)

Barak
04-22-06, 01:37 PM
I noticed that my diff is especially whiney after a cold start when the gears are cold. It quiets down quite a bit once the gears warm up. Anyone notice this on their diffs, or are they whiney all the time?

blown black caddy
04-23-06, 06:53 PM
2006 V with 1800 miles on it! No burnouts done at all on the car. Just noticed this afternoon the drops of oil on the garage floor! I got underneath and saw oil on the drivers side. :mad: I guess I will keep monitoring it?

stkshkr
04-24-06, 08:58 AM
I have a replacement 06 diff and it's leaking from the pinion seal

Florian
04-25-06, 09:10 PM
04V with 50K on the clock, currently on 2nd diff...now sounds like a bag of marbles in the rear, plus a constant high pitch coming from rear...


F

VelieVer ttt
04-25-06, 11:55 PM
Leaking diff. Going to shop tomorrow for # 2.

v-ape
04-26-06, 12:53 PM
Ok, now I'm on round 2. Apparently after replacing/shimming the bearings for the diff, it will still making the noise so they need the car some more. I just wish they would replace it with an 06 diff. because I have a feeling that the problem isnt in the bearings but in the diff design. Oh well, I have the car under waranty for another couple of years, they may just get sick of seeing it....

Round 3, the final round?

Lindsay Cadillac has decided to put a new diff in. Well at least the parts of a new diff. I spoke with the service rep last night and he said basically its cheaper to repair than to replace, but when the repairs dont work, they ask Cadillac to cover the cost of a new diff. Apparently mine has gotten to that point and the parts should be in today or tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes. I'll just be happy to get the car back. Be aware, any differential problems could leave you without your V for some time. I dropped mine off on 4/9/06 and am still waiting. The practically new loaner CTS they gave me isnt too bad with gas prices being the way they are, it slurps a LOT less gas than the V around town, but about the same on the highway.

stkshkr
04-26-06, 09:51 PM
The pinion seal for my leaking 06 diff is on back order, I wonder if it's a national backorder?

talalhz
04-28-06, 01:43 AM
Repoted

tweeter81
05-03-06, 10:40 AM
The diff on my 2004 V (stock) started whining at approximately 9000 miles and over the course of the next 6000 miles I had the fluid in it changed 3 different times by Cadillac in order to quiet it down. Lately the whining has been getting much worse and I took it in to the dealer and they agreed to replace it and I am now getting an '06 replacement diff at approximately 15000 miles.

ace996
05-04-06, 10:29 PM
Unfortunately, I found that the '06 diff started whining sooner than my '05 diff. When they replace it, break it in real easy for 500miles...then dump the fluid and add the heavy-weight Redline or Royal Purple. That may keep it quiet for a while.
Good luck,
ace

Joey'sVee
05-05-06, 09:04 AM
My fourth diff (which is an 06) is whinning very bad. My car is bone stock at this point. I got word yesterday that they are not going to replace the diff...so we'll see how they like buying the car back.

CVP33
05-05-06, 07:15 PM
My fourth diff (which is an 06) is whinning very bad. My car is bone stock at this point. I got word yesterday that they are not going to replace the diff...so we'll see how they like buying the car back.

I believe I still hold the record with 6 documented rear diff' failures on two V's. At least I won something! :highfive:

FAT ANDY
05-06-06, 03:43 PM
2006 CTS V

Differential Failure At 1485 Miles

Pretty Shitty If You Ask Me

DEALER WOULD NOT WARRANTY MY CAR

stkshkr
05-06-06, 09:18 PM
2006 CTS V

Differential Failure At 1485 Miles

Pretty Shitty If You Ask Me

DEALER WOULD NOT WARRANTY MY CAR

Go to another dealer and/or contact Cadillac customer service

wildwhl
05-06-06, 09:22 PM
I believe I still hold the record with 6 documented rear diff' failures on two V's. At least I won something! :highfive:

I'm quite certain we've documented more than 6 rear failures on you CVP :stirpot:

CVP33
05-07-06, 03:02 PM
I'm quite certain we've documented more than 6 rear failures on you CVP :stirpot:

Thank god yours is still snug with no leaks. Makes for a much better ride. Plus, I love seeing this look on your face. :eek:

rand49er
05-08-06, 09:24 PM
Noticed mine whining today for the first time. One of the very few times I've driven it even close to what someone would call "a bit hard" was yesterday when I got the tires to spin a bit after slipping the clutch in 1st gear, but never did get to WOT and backed off immediately when I experienced some wheel hop. This was absolutely NOT a "hole shot" as a description for my takeoff.

I have 22,500 babied miles on my car, and I'm the original owner. It had 56 miles on it when I took delivery from Superior Cadillac in Brighton, Mich. I average 22-22.5 MPG is all around driving, start out in 2nd gear most of the time, got 15k on my original runflats (could have gotten a couple of more k out of them), and have my 3-1/2-year-old son in the car with me 90+% of the time, thus I'm very careful.

The car only whines in 6th gear at light acceleration conditions at about 40-45 MPH; doesn't do it in 5th or 4th, only 6th gear. I suspect that this is just the beginning of more whining yet to come. Given how I drive this car -- let me restate this: I absolutely baby it! -- this is absolute BS! What pisses me off even more is that I've modified the exhaust system with headers, hi-flow cats, and a Corsa, and if I was ever denied a warranty fix because of that, I would be fuming! Hell, I wouldn't have bought the damn thing and put a clear bra on it if I wanted to abuse it, I would have leased it, then driven it hard! I want to KEEP this car!

BTW, the NHTSA website at the beginning of this does not work.

Anyway, I'm probably all preemptively worked up and upset just thinking that they'll try to deny a replacement on warranty. If this post serves as documentation, then so be it. My conscience is completely clear on this matter.

jspridge
05-09-06, 10:16 AM
I just got my car back from the dealer on Friday. The car now has it's third differential. Filed complaint this morning...

Without my complaint, the site lists the following numbers of complaints by year:

2003: 3
2004: 19 (20 including my second)
2005: 23
2006: 3

The Tony Show
05-12-06, 08:17 AM
'04, 22K miles. Diff was whining above 45 mph, so dealer changed fluid. That resulted in a loud popping and groaning noise whenever I turn the wheel in a parking lot (probably binding/locking up).

New diff on order.

v-ape
05-12-06, 12:22 PM
I posted on here earlier. I'm on my 3rd diff now. 1st one whined and they tried to fix it 3x's, no luck, the 2nd time they put the parts to an 06 in the pumpkin, still whined. 3rd time they gave me a new 06 pumpkin w/ parts. It still whines, but only in 6th under light accel. This is a COMMON problem with more than my car. My symptoms are exactly the same as others on here.
Is wheel hop something that makes it worse? I have been babying my car, but honestly, I didnt buy it to baby it. I bought a 400hp car to have fun. I dont drag race, but I like a nice spirited run around a track everyonce in a while and I'm a little scared to take mine out to VIR or Summit Point because I may hurt the car... Also since GM isnt fixing the problem, the value of these cars is going down. Too bad they hook a bullet proof engine up to a shotty (replace o with i if you like) differential.

StealthV
05-14-06, 09:17 AM
Wheel hop and 25% Getrag replacement rate? Come on GM; do the right thing. It's called product support and keeping customers happy. Happy customers will buy your products again in the future and tell all their friends. Check the resale value of the V --- it should hold like a C6 Z06 and it's not...

Making the V a 100% complete vehicle that lives up to expectations is not rocket science. With limited production quantities, it isn't an unmanageble cost considering lost future Cadillac sales from all of us current owners. Do we have to come up with the fix and build the business case for you since all your 6-Sigma black belts are too busy? :rant2:

CVP33
05-14-06, 09:51 AM
Wheel hop and 25% Getrag replacement rate? Come on GM; do the right thing. It's called product support and keeping customers happy. Happy customers will buy your products again in the future and tell all their friends. Check the resale value of the V --- it should hold like a C6 Z06 and it's not...

Making the V a 100% complete vehicle that lives up to expectations is not rocket science. With limited production quantities, it isn't an unmanageble cost considering lost future Cadillac sales from all of us current owners. Do we have to come up with the fix and build the business case for you since all your 6-Sigma black belts are too busy? :rant2:

6-Sigma? Not there's an obscure reference. I'd bet that less than 20% of forum members picked up on that. :thumbsup:

wildwhl
05-14-06, 11:58 AM
Not that obscure...but Mr. StealthV has it right. Would I be contemplating a european brand at the moment had the product support on the V been where it should be, regardless of *issues*?

:horse:

WW

StealthV
05-14-06, 03:10 PM
Being a 6-Sigma black belt in a previous life, I know what triggers solving problems - value prop. Our future money in vehicle purchases is what's on the table.

GM knows the Gretrag and wheel hop are a problem. What I think is happening is typical corporate short term thinking and it'd cost too much in time, people and money to fix right. Short term thinking will cost more money down the road when we don't buy any more $50k+ Cadillacs.

GM ponying up a few thousand to fix my V today or me buying a M5 next go around and a non-GM every time after that is what's on the table. Probably 20+ new cars sales to me alone in the next 30 years.

The squeaky wheel always gets the grease. We need to turn up the heat to high.

GM, please fix our Vs. Pretty please, with sugar on top.

wildwhl
05-14-06, 11:36 PM
Case in point - they've already lost me. My Father-in-law who spent his whole life planning on the baddest vette made for retirement (C6 Z06) has switched brands based on my poor experiences with the V. How many others have changed their mind based on our experiences?

F me once - F me. F me twice - F you.

Please one person and they'll tell one person (you). Disappoint them and they'll tell the world (internet).

WW who still likes his V but hates GM

v-ape
05-15-06, 01:14 PM
Not that obscure...but Mr. StealthV has it right. Would I be contemplating a european brand at the moment had the product support on the V been where it should be, regardless of *issues*?

I considered an M3, but thought I'd like 4dr's and a DVD player... Maybe 2drs and Nav is okay if the rearend holds up...

heavymetals
05-16-06, 03:41 AM
BTW, the NHTSA website at the beginning of this does not work.



Works for me.

Go to post #1 and click on the link.

CVP33
05-16-06, 04:48 PM
F me once - F me. F me twice - F you.


I have forwarded this post to the moderators once again. WW you have been warned repeatedly not to post trolling for sex. This is really beneath our forum and I for one have had it. In fact I've had it twice. :highfive: See ya' later.

wildwhl
05-16-06, 08:06 PM
errr, I think you've had it at least 3 times...

CVP33
05-16-06, 08:24 PM
errr, I think you've had it at least 3 times...

I bend corrected. I mean stand, stand.

StealthV
05-23-06, 11:49 AM
:yawn:

CVP33
05-23-06, 08:36 PM
:yawn:

That's my post of the day. Nicely done Rick.

lasstss
05-23-06, 09:44 PM
:yawn:

HAHAHAHA I liiike it!:alchi: Is that the family edition?

StealthV
05-24-06, 05:17 PM
Ho hum.

StealthV
05-25-06, 08:44 PM
v...

wildwhl
05-25-06, 10:08 PM
Now you've done it, StealthV.

I'm checking here daily for the latest and greatest post on the forum :thumbsup:

WW

StealthV
05-26-06, 05:23 PM
.:).

wildwhl
06-14-06, 11:28 PM
My diff is seeping from the front pinion bearing. I know this, because I'm very, very careful about how I check it. White stripping tape, alcohol, and other tools work in your favor when used properly.

But the dealer thinks she is just "overfull". Won't know until she runs out of fluid I guess. Time to work on a custom reinforcement of the diff on the shelf. I have a box of parts from lasstss for a cooler, maybe I should just carbon/kevlar/glass the case and call it good.

WW

kd7895
06-16-06, 02:18 PM
I have my 3rd differential in the car, the last being the updated differential recommended here. I now have 42,000 miles and this one is whining significantly more than the others. Never any breakage, just significant noise even when compared to my 9" with Aluminum Centersection in a 1971 Buick GS that was set up fairly loose to begin with.

My dealer is concerned with payment under another warranty claim for a replacement. I will let everyone know, but does anyone have information regarding extending the warranty to 100,000 miles?

Thanks, Mickey Waller

bronsonllh
06-17-06, 12:38 PM
I've got a regular CTS 03. Replaced the whiny diff at 32000 miles in Sept '05. Do you think they put an '06 diff in there?

StealthV
06-17-06, 02:13 PM
I've got a regular CTS 03. Replaced the whiny diff at 32000 miles in Sept '05. Do you think they put an '06 diff in there?

Odds are no it does not have the 2006 version because it wasn't available yet.

Does the 2006 V6 CTS have the updated case design? :hmm:

v-ape
06-21-06, 01:59 PM
I had my diff replaced with an 06 about a month ago. It developed a whine soon after the 500mi. break-in period. (Road & Track had this same problem in their long term test). There is something seriously wrong with the diff's of these cars. As if you didnt know this...

I fear Cadillac wont take action until someone is killed when their rear-end locks up, they lose control of the car and slide into a group of kids playing. Otherwise they will keep it quiet inside GM.

I'm not sure if they watch these forums or not, but there is a serious design flaw with this vehicle. Whether its the diff, the rear suspension, or whatever, something is WRONG. BMW was quick to recall all M3's when their bearings went bad and people were blowing engines, too bad Cadillac doesnt care about their customer base / image as much.

I'm letting mine whine until a month before I decide to sell this thing, then I'll get a new diff, break it in, and sell the car.

andy92782
07-01-06, 03:40 PM
My first post here... I recently acquired an '05 V. It has just under 9K miles on it. The diff definitely makes noise in this car. You can really hear it if the rear seats are folded forward (which I do often since I like to carry a bike in the car with me). Also, the transmission suffers from the 6th gear vibration problem and a new tranny is on order at the dealer.

The car is great but frankly I'm glad I'm leasing it.. seems like the rear diffs don't last much longer than the stock F1 tires!

urbanski
07-01-06, 04:04 PM
The car is great but frankly I'm glad I'm leasing it.. seems like the rear diffs don't last much longer than the stock F1 tires!
lol no they dont
welcome :)

wildwhl
07-01-06, 10:06 PM
I have to disagree with this.

I went through 2 sets of F1's in <10,000 miles and my current diff has 13,500 miles :)

WW

MLV
07-04-06, 05:49 AM
#3 goes in tomorrow. At least #2 lasted 14,000 miles. The problem I've had is grinding during low speed turns, very impressive sound for onlookers to enjoy. My service manager said not to worry about it; they'll just keep replacing them as necessary. You'd think Cadillac would be looking for a solution if only to save the company some money.

kali_cts03
07-04-06, 05:19 PM
#3 goes in tomorrow. At least #2 lasted 14,000 miles. The problem I've had is grinding during low speed turns, very impressive sound for onlookers to enjoy. My service manager said not to worry about it; they'll just keep replacing them as necessary. You'd think Cadillac would be looking for a solution if only to save the company some money.

I was told the assy for my regular CTS is $1,200 a pop to replace (I'm on my 3rd one)..... not sure if it is anymore expensive for the V but you are right about the question of them replacing them over and over.... wierd!!!

v-ape
07-07-06, 10:31 AM
I was told the assy for my regular CTS is $1,200 a pop to replace (I'm on my 3rd one)..... not sure if it is anymore expensive for the V but you are right about the question of them replacing them over and over.... wierd!!!
I think my 2nd diff was 2500 for the V and it started making noise <500miles after it was put in (same problem Road & Track had) and has steadily been getting louder. This is a Cadillac wide problem. The old Catera's had diff problems and my colleagues Escalade just started making noises in his front diff (if you search the Escalade forums you will see this is a common problem there as well).

kali_cts03
07-08-06, 11:12 AM
I think my 2nd diff was 2500 for the V and it started making noise <500miles after it was put in (same problem Road & Track had) and has steadily been getting louder. This is a Cadillac wide problem. The old Catera's had diff problems and my colleagues Escalade just started making noises in his front diff (if you search the Escalade forums you will see this is a common problem there as well).

I was told 2 things now by 2 different people at the service dept. at 2 different dealerships....

1. Service Tech: told me that the rear diff. problem is a problem and will continute to be a problem for some cars no matter what (damn F-up thing to say to a customer, IMO)

2. Service Advisor: 06 rear diff. are good and without any problems, meaning if you had a bad one and got this new 06 diff. end of problems (but I have had mine replaced a few months back with supposedly the new one and my noise, still very faint but starting to come back..... usually takes a couple more months before it gets anoying....

scottjsmith
07-11-06, 08:42 AM
Check out this Service Bulletin:
http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/tsb/data/pip3152g.pdf

I actually own a 2006 Solstice, but since it uses the same LSD as the 2006 CTS, I came to this site to see if anyone here came across the solution. My dealer correctly identified the problem, and applied the fix (quoted below), which does not require any hardware replacement!

Service Information Document ID# 1824733
2004 Cadillac CTS

Subject: Shudder or Bind On Low Speed Turns - keywords axle differential
groan growl moan noise rear slow vibration #PIP3152G - (05/03/2006)

Models: 2004-2006 Cadillac SRX, CTS, CTSV
2005-2006 Cadillac STS
2006 Pontiac Solstice
2007 Saturn Sky
Equipped with Limited Slip Differential (RPO - G80)

This PI is being updated to include 2007 Saturn Sky and also update the Part number for the axle fluid and include part number disclaimer. Please discard PIP3152F

The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

Condition/Concern:
Service Information: Customer may comment of a shudder or bind from the rear of vehicle on low speed turns such as parking lot maneuvers on vehicles equipped with G80 limited slip rear axle. This condition may be more noticeable with the vehicle at operating temperatures.

Recommendation/Instructions:
Drive the vehicle to warm the rear axle and then drain the axle fluid. Refill with just the 89021677 (in Canada, use 89021678) axle lube and drive the vehicle about 10 minutes performing mostly parking lot turning maneuvers. Drain the rear axle again and mix 1200 ml of 89021677 (in Canada, use 89021678) and 74-89 ml of 1052358 (Canadian P/N 992694) additive outside of the axle and then fill the rear axle with this mixture and re-evaluate.

Part numbers are subject to change. Use any superseded part numbers if the part numbers in this document become discontinued.

Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.

GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.
WE SUPPORT VOLUNTARY TECHNICIAN CERTIFICATION

© Copyright General Motors Corporation. All Rights Reserved.
Document ID# 1824733
2004 Cadillac CTS

wildwhl
07-12-06, 08:48 AM
It only took me until my 3rd diff to convince the local dealer the additive was necessary :banghead:

Good information for those of you who can't seem to get your service department to understand that LSD is something your vehicle was equipped with from the factory, not something you took right before calling them :nono:

WW

V-Smooth
07-14-06, 03:12 PM
The wine has begun at 2XXX miles...oddly no cheese yet, hmm...

kali_cts03
07-14-06, 06:42 PM
The wine has begun at 2XXX miles...oddly no cheese yet, hmm...

I'm pretty sure my SA told me that 06 the diff was fixed and shouldn't have any problems.... was he wrong?

wildwhl
07-14-06, 11:13 PM
:yup:

WW

v-ape
07-16-06, 02:37 PM
I'm pretty sure my SA told me that 06 the diff was fixed and shouldn't have any problems.... was he wrong?

My 06 diff whines and it has ~2000 miles on it, same with the one R&T did a long term test. They said their new diff whined a month later.

kali_cts03
07-16-06, 07:59 PM
My 06 diff whines and it has ~2000 miles on it, same with the one R&T did a long term test. They said their new diff whined a month later.

You're right, I was just taken for a ride again so it seems... talked with some people at the SoCal event this weekend and they too told me that the 06 diff. is not better then the rest.... they still break and have no fix on it!!! :thehand: Bunch of bull shit, why even say that, unless they are told to say it and don't know the truth either..... :mad:

V-Smooth
07-18-06, 10:50 AM
I'm pretty sure my SA told me that 06 the diff was fixed and shouldn't have any problems.... was he wrong?

Yepper, it seems as though it whines in higher gears though...most prevelant in 4th gear.

I think I hit cheese in 6th gear...kinda like cheese-wiz..."cheese-wiz, it sure has pull in even 6th gear"...

Barak
07-20-06, 09:30 PM
I don't know if anyone has ever driven with the rear seats folded down, but it amplifies the whine to the point that you can't hear yourself think.

ctsvett
07-21-06, 01:12 AM
I had major binding in my rear... part of it is going to be replaced.. i will find out what tomorrow.... I am very concerned about the dealer rebuilding it.

Reed

KCzV
07-22-06, 09:42 AM
Took the car in for the rear end leaking, and also noted to the service manager that the whine was back (2nd rear end in car). Dealer called friday and said that they replaced the rear end again. The dealer said they don't deal with many V's so he did'nt have many answers. I will say that the dealer was very helpful, and has even offered to come and powerwash the driveway where the rear had leaked.

wildwhl
07-23-06, 12:40 PM
I had major binding in my rear... part of it is going to be replaced.. i will find out what tomorrow.... I am very concerned about the dealer rebuilding it.

Reed

I thought urby found a lube for that? Sorry, couldn't resist.

What did you find out, Reed? Rebuild by the dealer? No thanks :tisk:

WW

ctsvett
07-23-06, 07:21 PM
dealer rebuilt= Yes... they replaced the clutch plates... "overheat damage noted"...

Car is running MUCH better now though, and no issues... So, maybe a dealer did it right for a change (with the obvious exception of lindsay- they ALWAYS do it right)

Reed

v-ape
07-24-06, 07:39 PM
Mine was rebuilt by the dealer 2x's (with no success). They finally gave me a new 06 diff (which proceeded to whine ~1000 miles later)

James had told me that in order to justify a replacement diff, it needed to be repaired first, once that fails, they have justification for a new diff. Cadillac's orders.

WGT31
07-26-06, 05:19 PM
Went in today to report rear end wine in 5th and 6th rear seat was down and it was just a singing:bigroll: Car goes in for service on the 16th of Aug. Will keep u posted.

CTS Dreams
07-28-06, 06:29 PM
Hey guys, I am a possible new V owner, just had a question about the diff: Is there a way to get the diff from the GTO to work in the V? I hear of GTO's holding over 550 rwhp and running slicks with no diff failures.

patentguy
08-05-06, 08:21 PM
James replaced mine last week.

v-ape
08-07-06, 06:31 PM
Got my 2nd 06 in last week, works like a champ. I dont even hear the slightest hint of whine. 250miles and counting...

Chef
08-07-06, 06:33 PM
Anyone throw in a 9 inch Ford IRS?

kali_cts03
08-07-06, 06:49 PM
Got my 2nd 06 in last week, works like a champ. I dont even hear the slightest hint of whine. 250miles and counting...

i think i was told that 400 or 500 is the break-in period on any new diff. - hope u got a winner!

TagApl4
08-08-06, 08:27 AM
Everyone with 06 diffs don't get too excited I have a 2006, with 5500 miles on it and the leaks have begun. I'm taking it in thurs if the service manage would answer his phone.

TagApl4
08-08-06, 01:31 PM
I have leaks and no noise. Is that common?

Barak
08-08-06, 06:31 PM
Took my car to the dealer to get the diff replaced for whine and they are claiming that their hands are tied by a directive by GM for the CTS-V's claiming that no major work can be done without regional rep approval. The regional rep of course being the most hated man on this forum, Larry Marvin. They won't even touch my rattling sunroof without his highnesses approval. The dealer told me to take it somewhere out of his area because they agreed that he probably wouldn't okay any of the work.

Everytime I take my car in for service, I get the itch to get rid of it for something else. Problem is of course, that there is no other car like the V and I'm somewhat stuck with putting up with GM's BS. I just have a feeling that this can't go on much longer before I do finally get rid of it for something that is less of a headache.

ctsvett
08-08-06, 10:22 PM
I understood that larry was gone now...

You may have a shot.. I hear the new guy is VERY fair and reasonable..

Reed

Ishminder
08-09-06, 12:48 AM
I was there just at Penske last week and Larry was still there. He came out to look at my vehicle. Sucks to hear that Barak, but you cannot say I did not warn you so. Well you cannot say everyone didn't warn you so. :) Mine is whining crazy these days, I just drive it and wait for it to blow. If its going to happen, it will, and thats when I'll get it fixed so they cannot complain. Penske's service advisor told me that I drive my car too slow that is why I am having so many problems...I so had them write that in their results and now I am actually enjoying the V with an extended warranty till 100K. Too bad my dealer at Infiniti says i need to slow down! Thats cadillac service for you :)

kali_cts03
08-09-06, 01:17 AM
I was there just at Penske last week and Larry was still there. He came out to look at my vehicle. Sucks to hear that Barak, but you cannot say I did not warn you so. Well you cannot say everyone didn't warn you so. :) Mine is whining crazy these days, I just drive it and wait for it to blow. If its going to happen, it will, and thats when I'll get it fixed so they cannot complain. Penske's service advisor told me that I drive my car too slow that is why I am having so many problems...I so had them write that in their results and now I am actually enjoying the V with an extended warranty till 100K. Too bad my dealer at Infiniti says i need to slow down! Thats cadillac service for you :)

Good for you Ishminder!!! :)
Sucks for you John!!! :(

So Ish, if it blows and from what I hear locks something and car fuks up.... sue them since they didn't prevent it!!! But, hopefully nothing bad happens.... :thumbsup:

Kadonny
08-14-06, 05:01 PM
2006 car, 2006 diff (of course).

Dripping and whining at 5500 miles. Next service visit I'm going to have them look at it.

Avejoe
08-15-06, 09:55 AM
My 04's rear is starting to whine again. The week after it was replaced the first time, they came out with an updated rear. Crossing my fingers

andy92782
08-17-06, 11:40 AM
New diff just installed in my '05.. 9700 miles. This also fixed the high speed vibration problem. I'll follow up with another thread..

GreenMachine
08-17-06, 05:04 PM
wow I can't believe they are just throwing new differentials at it, be nice if they took apart the old ones and told you whats wrong....well told anyone whats going wrong in them, cause then they could actually fix them.

MN CTS-VETT
08-18-06, 10:37 PM
My '04 V is in for the second time for the rear diff -the service manager took it for a ride and the parade clunk (1st to 2nd) and the pop/clunk from the wheel hop kit (previously installed) actually scared the poor guy! Got a follow up call and they are replacing the diff with the updated version. Just in time for the 25K rear diff fluid change.....I am happy that GM is standing behind this.

1QUICKV
08-21-06, 07:38 PM
my diff has not gone yet since i have had it but is does whine alittle and it does leak. does anyone elses leak?

andy92782
08-21-06, 09:46 PM
New diff just installed in my '05.. 9700 miles. This also fixed the high speed vibration problem. I'll follow up with another thread..

I take this back. After driving it a few miles, I can tell the vibration isn't totally eliminated.

Avejoe
08-29-06, 08:24 AM
My 04's rear is starting to whine again. The week after it was replaced the first time, they came out with an updated rear. Crossing my fingers
UPDATE: They put in a new diff. The whine is gone again. Made me sign a 500 mile break in paper. They also put a new seal in the trans. A leak I wasn't aware of. I have a high speed vibration that I wanted them to check.(Tire balance I thought) they balanced the tires, still had the vib. They checked them for round and found that they were all way out of wack. Cad. says 18lbs. or less. They tested at 34lbs.,31lbs., 29lbs. and 23lbs. So much for the GSD3s

Kadonny
08-30-06, 08:24 AM
Report on my 06. Diff supposidly just overfilled and leaking out of overfill. Whine still there, but not loud enough for me to worry about it.

vonhiner
08-30-06, 04:52 PM
I am now ready for my THIRD diff replacement at 16K miles!! The whine is back, very prominant about 47mph. I guess they don't do complete diff replacements anymore. The dealer says he has to get all the replacement parts and assemble. The car went in Monday morning and I am picking it up Thursday morning and it hasn't even been opened up. My dealer (Lockhart-Indianapolis)wants to do the job right and put in a clutch pack but it is on back order and won't be able to get all the parts before the long Labor Day weekend. Says I might as well drive it until all the parts come in. Good idea, and they are taking care of me (rental car) but the THIRD diff in 16K mi????The warranty people are asking a lot of questions and giving the dealer problems and dragging feet and asking questions like "Is he towing with it?" "Is he hauling newspapers with it?" What morons!!! Don't they know they make a crappy diff and they have had nothing but problems with it!!! Getting very frustrated! Chris

wildwhl
09-04-06, 02:41 PM
Reminds me of my Dodge Dakota 4wd V8 that had a voided warranty on the transfer case because I "towed with it" (using factory installed tow package) and "abused it off road" (always, with a payload of fragile model airplanes in the back).

I have nothing to contribute. Just a post whore.

WW

Sick03L
09-05-06, 12:19 PM
I dropped off my 04 V that I just bought a week ago because it had a slight whine coming from the rear. While it was in they said the whine was not loud enough to warrent any repair but they the a couple seals were leaking and they replaced those.
I got bored yesterday and decided to crawl under the car and see what rear the car had installed in it. Much to my suprise it has the 06 updated rear allready install in the car! It makes sense now since I read that the 06 rears whine and leak.

Caddynic
09-05-06, 11:22 PM
I hate to hear that the CTS-V is having rear end problems. It always seems that GM goes 99% and then stops.

FYI, I did some searching on the 'net and it seems that Thunder Racing in Texas is going to release an aftermarket rear end for the CTS-V that will handle up to 2000hp.

It is apparentky undergoing testing. I think I will hold off buy a CTS-V untill this product is on the market and tested.

I found out about it at: LS1TECH - The fix for the CTS-V rear (http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=426505&page=1&pp=20)

GreenMachine
09-06-06, 05:23 PM
I wonder if its the same rear as in the vette? Probibly not, but if it is I wonder if its just the "extra pounds" that the CTS weighs that are causing extra strain, its not like you guys are doing burn-outs (often) and drifting a nurburgring tuned car.

Vendetta-V-
09-10-06, 02:07 PM
At 3,500 miles I noticed a slight whine. At 5,000 miles I noticed a rear axle fluid smell when getting out of the car. At 5,200 miles, I noticed leak marks in my garage, looked underneath and there she is...the dreaded rear axle leak.

I'm taking her in tomorrow.

Oh, and I also developed a coolant leak on the right side which splashed hot 'magma' onto my engine cover (trashcan) and put permanent marks on it.

I went through great lengths to drive the proper 500 miles on the car. I got it with 5 miles on it. Maybe the mandatory test drive that the factory tech did had something to do with it.

I have nine 1/4 mile runs. The first run was at 530 miles.

From the IQOV Website I just submitted to: Your Complaint Information is successfully submitted.
Your Confirmation number (ODI Number) is: 10167775

trukk
09-11-06, 12:45 PM
2005 V.

First diff replaced November 2005 @ 18k miles with the 'new' 2006 diff, due to severe whine.

I just had that diff replaced last week, while I was on vacation (props to James @ Lindsay). My first replacement was louder than the original, and had leaked diff fluid caked up on the outside. This was done at 35K miles.

We'll see how long this one lasts. I'm not hopefull. SOO FRUSTRATING.

-Chris

Vendetta-V-
09-11-06, 06:21 PM
Update: Dealer is replacing both my 2006 rearend and the radiator. Here we go!

CVP33
09-11-06, 07:30 PM
2005 V.

First diff replaced November 2005 @ 18k miles with the 'new' 2006 diff, due to severe whine.

I just had that diff replaced last week, while I was on vacation (props to James @ Lindsay). My first replacement was louder than the original, and had leaked diff fluid caked up on the outside. This was done at 35K miles.

We'll see how long this one lasts. I'm not hopefull. SOO FRUSTRATING.

-Chris

Sorry to hear you joined the club that none of us wanted to be in.

chet
02-04-07, 01:35 PM
Report submitted, 2004 V with 05 diff. Now leaking with slight modulating
whine. Just changed the fluid 2nd time in 1 year this time Redline gave
me a bottle of friction modifier to add. Hope this helps.

Anyone know if it's a big deal to change the pinion seal yourself, my V's out of warrenty. I've changed other GM pinion seals B4.

I'm very discusted with this rear end problem. I cant believe that any car
made in this modern hightech world can have a stupid leak.

The Tony Show
02-05-07, 02:10 PM
After two fluid swaps to try and get rid of the whine and binding in turns, diff #2 is getting ready to go out to pasture. Diff #3 is on order under warranty. Yay.

CTS (V)
04-26-07, 04:04 PM
I was gonna call on monday and bring that to their (NHTSA) attention as I assume GM is gonna try to fold in these failures with the regular CTS and skew the results in their favor.

they could, however, there is a section that you can fill in engine size.

we just need to make sure we're entering in that field. that way it can be reference by CTS with 5.7 or 6.0

A1beshouri
04-26-07, 09:02 PM
the ammount of diff breaks on our cars just is mind boggling to me

samlegear
06-09-07, 12:31 PM
my 06 v burned a was a complete loss form diff 2 months ago a gm has not done nothin about it my ins paid it off tho but im still loosin samlegear@msn.com