: Pictures of my 87 Brougham



supasweetride
01-24-06, 01:34 PM
So everyone has been asking for pictures of my caddy, here is a link to cardomain.com the previous owner made it but the car still looks the same. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/508228 I will put up some of my own when I get time.

caddycruiser
01-24-06, 02:53 PM
Cool car--looks brand new;)

Night Wolf
01-24-06, 05:00 PM
Not bad.... I'd replace the dented rear bumper...

The 307 is a dog... but 0-60 in 25 seconds? (as stated on the cardomain) there is just something majorly wrong there....

still, nice car, I like the 80's Brougham.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
01-24-06, 05:32 PM
Well like Rick, I have always loved the '80-92 Broughams. They have such a powerful elegance to them, with so much presence.

Yours is very clean, keep it that way!

supasweetride
01-24-06, 05:52 PM
Not bad.... I'd replace the dented rear bumper...

The 307 is a dog... but 0-60 in 25 seconds? (as stated on the cardomain) there is just something majorly wrong there....

still, nice car, I like the 80's Brougham.

No it does not go 0-60 in 25 seconds the previous owner was being sarcastic!! Trust me I drive it every day!!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
01-24-06, 05:54 PM
Its like 11 or 12 seconds 0-60

DopeStar 156
01-24-06, 11:14 PM
From what I understand the 307 is supposed to 0-60 in at the most 10 sec. It takes mine approxamately 8-9 seconds to get to 60 from a dead stop.

Destroyer
01-25-06, 12:10 AM
From what I understand the 307 is supposed to 0-60 in at the most 10 sec. It takes mine approxamately 8-9 seconds to get to 60 from a dead stop.Put the crack pipe down bro. My 91 which I personally installed a 5.7 motor out of an 87 Iroc w/Holley intake, Edelbrock carb, headers, true dual exhaust w/no cats and mangnaflow mufflers, etc......., will by all estimates barely run 0-60 in under 8 seconds(maybe 7.0-7.5 sec). My previous Fleetwood was an 87 with a 307 and it was defintely a pig. Your car looks great, emphasize on that but dont try to convince anyone here its got balls. We know and have already accepted the truth that a Cavalier would blow the 307's doors off!. Also, what the hell makes you think yours runs up to 2 seconds faster 0-60 than everyone elses?. Do you know how many car lengths 2 seconds is?.

supasweetride
01-25-06, 01:02 AM
ok guys the previous owner was just joking about the 0-60 in 25 seconds same as the whole snap crakle pop thing. my caddy does not take that long at all and the radio works wonderfully the only real problem is the dent in the bumper that the other people made. and i need new tires but thats it

I~LUV~Caddys8792
01-25-06, 08:46 PM
The 1991 Brougham with the stock 185 hp TBI 5.7 does a 9.4 0-60 and a 1/4 mile in 17.1.

IIRC, the FI 5.0 1991 Brougham does like a 10.5 0-60 and it will run 18's in the 1/4. Nightwolf's 1979 Sedan deVille with the 7.0 runs a 17.5 @ 88 MPH.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
01-25-06, 08:47 PM
Put the crack pipe down bro. My 91 which I personally installed a 5.7 motor out of an 87 Iroc w/Holley intake, Edelbrock carb, headers, true dual exhaust w/no cats and mangnaflow mufflers, etc......., will by all estimates barely run 0-60 in under 8 seconds(maybe 7.0-7.5 sec).

Destroyer, what kind of power do you have now? The '87 IROC motor had like 215hp stock.

Night Wolf
01-25-06, 09:28 PM
All joking aside... a well-tuned, good running, mint Qudra-Jet 307 should move the car along pretty decent. Far from the lowest power engine used in the chassis, but not the most powerful. Add in the fact that it will never, ever die... is good on gas, and just in general a nice engine to own... and as long as you aren't worried about absolute speed, then the 307 is a fine engine for the Brougham.

The biggest draw back for the 307 is that it is sipping thru straws. The heads are very restrictive... yeah you can work with them, but then you get into the money/work involved of just doing an engine swap.... and a 403 is a near bolt in swap... the 455 isn't too far off either.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
01-25-06, 09:49 PM
I would kill to find a published road test of a 88 Brougham vs. an 88 Town Car!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
01-25-06, 09:53 PM
Speaking of sipping through a straw,

Just for kicks, has anyone ever thought of doing a turbo 307?

I would bet that it would be pointless, but it would be the only one out there!

Night Wolf
01-25-06, 10:37 PM
There is no reason at all. It isn't even a good application.

The cheapest and best way to get more power form the 307 is to find a rare 180hp version (used in G-body Cutlass 442) and steal the heads and swap them onto the base 307 (sorry, forgot the VIN codes) there pretty much all your 40hp boost (maybe different cam?)

Otherwise.... don't even bother with the 307... a 403 would be such a nice swap.... bolt in.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
01-25-06, 10:39 PM
Does the 403 have much for aftermarket, or is it like the 307 where there is basically none at all?

Night Wolf
01-25-06, 11:20 PM
403 has plenty of after market :)

great performer stock and a solid platform to start a hi-po engine build on. IIRC its a small block... nearly a direct drop in replacement for the 307.

Of course to go all out, a Rocket 455 would be sweet! Definitly with the 455, and I would highly consider it with the 403..... dump the 200R4.... if you still want a 4spd, a built 700R4 would be nice, otherwise a TH400 would be the best choice..... or 4L80E with stand-alone controller from a diesel truck :).

I~LUV~Caddys8792
01-25-06, 11:44 PM
I remember driving my friends' grandpa's 1977 Toronado with the 403.. That thing moved pretty good for a 4600lb coupe, I can just imagine how much better that would be in a car 600 lbs lighter!

IIRC, the hp and torque were really close to the 425's specs.

Night Wolf
01-26-06, 12:19 AM
stock.

Also 1977 was in the heart of a gas crisis... nobody was making power...

anyone taking the time to do an engine swap with an emmissions-loaded engine, and leaving it stock... is not too bright.

Atleast a refresher.. keep it simple, better cam, maybe some head work... try to bring the compression up a little. headers and true dual exhaust and you'll be making some nice power for cheap :)

I~LUV~Caddys8792
01-26-06, 12:23 AM
I know, but I'm just saying it was surprisingly quick for something of that size, and when you think that its only running around 185hp.

brougham
01-26-06, 12:27 AM
The 1991 Brougham with the stock 185 hp TBI 5.7 does a 9.4 0-60 and a 1/4 mile in 17.1.
IIRC, the FI 5.0 1991 Brougham does like a 10.5 0-60 and it will run 18's in the 1/4. Nightwolf's 1979 Sedan deVille with the 7.0 runs a 17.5 @ 88 MPH.

The 5L one is 14.3 seconds.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
01-26-06, 12:43 AM
Yeah, but that's Cadillac's estimate right?

Cadillac's estimates are VERY conservative though, they estimated the 5.7 version to run a 10.5 0-60. They estimated the 1994 FWB with the LT1 at an 8.5, and the 1994 SDV at a 9.3. The FWB should do it in about 7.6 or so, and the SDV should run about a 8.4 or so.

creeker
01-31-06, 07:23 PM
From what I understand the 307 is supposed to 0-60 in at the most 10 sec. It takes mine approxamately 8-9 seconds to get to 60 from a dead stop.

I thought the 87 still had the infamous 4.1

Benzilla
01-31-06, 09:13 PM
Hey cool you bought that one!!! I've seen it a lot on car domain and I always liked it, by the way did you know its also in rank my ride.com? I'm on cardomain and rankmyride all the time, come check out my rides-http://members.rankmyride.com/Benzilla
http://lowrider.cardomain.com/id/benzilla