I can not believe how angry I am. Any of you that are parents will understand this I'm sure. My daughter just turned 2. She is 99% of the time one of the most well behaved children ever. She can be taken everywhere and I never have had a problem until today. So I have to go to the dealership to get some basic work done. We had been there for 45 mins. already and my daughter began to misbehave. Not really bad, but nothing that I find acceptable. She had brought no toys and was bored so I was semi understanding. Anyway it got to the point were I felt she needed a time out. There where probably 5 other people sitting in the waiting area. I put her on the chair and told her not to move. Well the chairs where leather and she was able to slide right out. So I attempted to hold her in the chair but not to hurt her. I mean mind you I have onlookers now so the last thing I want is for some crazy to say I am hurting my child. Anyway she begins to struggle. So at that point I let her up and carry her outside. I smack her ass where her diaper is just enough to let her know I am upset. I then try to get her to calm down and she runs back in to the dealership, and right back in into the waiting room. She then sits on a chair for a few minutes gets up and starts playing. First she was doing fine then she decided to roll on the floor. I asked her to get up the floor was dirty and to come see mommy. Anyway the power struggle comes again. She is going to test me and in the worst place. I have no real means to discipline and cant even put her in the car to calm down. The old man sitting next to me than says go spank her ass. I said she just received a spanking outside he said well obviously I didn't do it hard enough and need to do it again. I just nodded. He then proceeded to tell me that his children and 10 grandchildren would never behave like this. I said well I am sorry she is bored and it is not like the old days. Trying to take everything this guy says with a grain of salt I continue to sit. The man then follows his comment up with while looking at my daughter and says to her in a very kind voice, Ohhhhhhhh your just a little monster aren't you. I then probably broke a vein in my neck trying to hold in my anger. Nobody should ever tell a child they are monsters. What the F***. He then continued by telling me that I needed parenting classes and she was controlling me and again calling my daughter a monster 2 more times directly in a row. At this point I grabbed the baby and went outside against every bone in my body. I needed to show that I was the bigger person, but man I wanted to take this guy by the throat. I held the baby outside while she was screaming and told her to scream all she wanted. When one of the men from Caddy walked outside. He then complimented me on my mothering and said you are handling her very well. It is good that you have the patience and are not letting yourself get overwhelmed. I know it is difficult when they want to behave like this in a public place and you are pretty much stuck. At this point I am so mad I started to tell him about the situation inside and just broke. I have never in my life been as angry as I was today. You know not even about what the man said to me but it was all about what he spoke to my daughter. I wanted to ****ing rip him apart. So any way the man at the dealership was really nice and brought the baby some cookies outside which calmed her down and we finished my transaction from outside. I told them that if I walked back in the building I would go off on that man and it would be a very bad scene. He completely understood and said if he didn't work there he would say something himself. He then said some people are not right. I just really needed to vent about this because I couldn't do it there. I stop now and think maybe I should have said something and at least i would have felt better, but I needed to be the bigger person. I mean it would not change the ignorance of this person had I of said anything. It just probably would have made him say I know why she acts this way now. I am sorry for the long post but I am just so angry and now mad that I didn't say something.

What a d*ck! I am sorry that happened... people need to mind their own business (unless a parent is hurting a child, but you weren't) Well you did the right thing. Like you said, even if you said something back to him, it wouldn't have changed his ignorance. He doesn't know you, he doesn't see you with your kids, he doesn't know how good of a mother you are, so **** him!!!

I know it just eats you up and then you go back and forth 20 times over. Should I have let him have it or not. I just know with how angry I was it would have been a complete unloading and that is not the way I want to behave in front of my daughter either.

I know how you feel Julie. It can be very stressful trying to raise a child in today's society. There is so much pressure from government authorities on what you can and can't do now a days and then there are the "helpful, experienced strangers".

My oldest daughter has always been a very strong willed child. We were visiting in Oregon which is very strict about child raising, I've heard horror stories about CPS taking kids at the drop of a hat and putting the parents through hell, treating them like convicted child abusers/molesters. We stopped at a Target store for a shopping/snack break and my daughter (4 years old) decides to have a fit.

This kid is screaming and fussing over nothing! She is just going off. So I take here out to our van to get her away from the public and give her a time out and chance to settle down. I strapped her in her car seat, left the sliding door open so people could see that I was not hurting her in any way and sat in the driver's seat to wait her out.

All of the horror stories I'd heard are running through my mind about this time, I'm nervously looking about to see if the cops are going to storm the van, lock me up and take my kid into protective custody! Finally she calms down and I am trying to explain to this kid that she could cause herself a lot of pain if she does this again.

We made it through, thank God!

While the old man may have thought he was being funny or helpful, he was obviously oblivious to your plight and should have left well enough alone.

Yeah some people just think they know it all. You could've unloaded and let him have it, but something tells me he still wouldn't have understood. It just would've made it worse. It's so hard not to dwell on these kinds of situations...but knowing you did the right thing should help you feel a little better! :D

Having met you and your daughter I know she is well-behaved. All of our precious darlings put us in odd predicaments at the worst times and I think you handled it fine. As for the old man, kudos for not blasting him. I cannot imagine the amount of nerve it would take for someone to comment to another parent about how they raise their child. I would have to see someone actually abusing their child before I commented to them about it.

I am sure your blood will boil everytime you tell the story but you did everything right - nothing to second guess.

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Thanks guys, It does make me feel a little better. Your right FSU my blood will always boil with this story. Kev can I just tell you how much I wished I had access to that damn car seat:thumbsup: !

Thanks guys, It does make me feel a little better. Your right FSU my blood will always boil with this story. Kev can I just tell you how much I wished I had access to that damn car seat:thumbsup: !The first kid is usually the hardest because the owner's manual always seems to get lost in transit! :annoyed: :D My poor little wife was often overwhelmed with our demanding little cherub. When our second daughter came things were much easier as to how to care for here. But then! The sibling rivalry started! ARRRgghhh! :banghead:

The oldest would pick on little sis no end. For a while I thought I was raising a sociopath! I had to find her 'empathy switch'. I had to find out what she valued emotionally and talk her through scenarios until I found one or two that brought her to tears at the thought of loss and equated that with how she was treating her sister.

It ain't easy! It's no picnic, that's for sure!

You hang in there Julie, it sounds like you are doing a good job so far.

Where the hell was Stoney to beat this guy up? You did go to his dealership right.

i would of at least broken his arm....hard to say, ive been in a bad mad since saturday. at least you got free cookies. they have free ice cream too, if your talking about Ed Morse.

at least you got free cookies. they have free ice cream too, if your talking about Ed Morse.


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Where the hell was Stoney to beat this guy up? You did go to his dealership right.

No Stoneys is about 45 mins. away so I had just went to my local one. Stoney knows my daughter though and I don't think he would have taken kindly to what was said that is for sure. I know when my husband gets home and hears about this he will be really pissed. I won't tell him at work because then he has to try and deal with it and do his job that just isn't fair. He is not going to be happy, but he can't always protect us either. I can tell you one thing my daughter really is a fantastic little girl and does not misbehave often. I am not just saying that because she is my kid.

I can tell you one thing my daughter really is a fantastic little girl and does not bishave often. I am not just saying that because she is my kid.

Then that's a testament to you as a mom, as mine often tells me.

i would of at least broken his arm....hard to say, ive been in a bad mad since saturday. at least you got free cookies. they have free ice cream too, if your talking about Ed Morse.

Trust me if I would have let myself go breaking his arms would have been the least of his problems. NO they just have coffee and doughnuts here it was at Coastal.

Then that's a testament to you as a mom, as mine often tells me.

You know what I think some of it has to do with me, but at the same point she is just a really laid back kid and always happy.

Screw the terrible two's My oldest is four. Wait till then. It get's worse.

Oh and for the guy who said something to you, I'd have a three word reply. It begins with go and ends with yourself. I've got a personal philosophy - "I don't take shit, I give it." I would not have been as controlled as you were.

Screw the terrible two's My oldest is four. Wait till then. It get's worse.

Oh and for the guy who said something to you, I'd have a three word reply. It begins with go and ends with yourself. I've got a personal philosophy - "I don't take shit, I give it." I would not have been as controlled as you were.

Trust me it took everything I had. That would have been my 1st 3 words to but not my last.

Some people just don't know when to keep their traps shut. This is why I just say what I want to people. I never walk away wishing I had said something unless it's a cop or something.

Julie, you handled that situation like a paential expert with Masters Degree. Switch your anger to praise for yourself. Gosh she is only 2 years old. She is acting her age, she is perfect.

Julie, you handled that situation like a paential expert with Masters Degree. Switch your anger to praise for yourself. Gosh she is only 2 years old. She is acting her age, she is perfect.

Thank You.

Julei, don't let this jerk cause you start questioning your parenting skills in any way. You and Tom are very nice people and no doubt are raising your daughter to be well behaved and respectful so that she grows up to be a very nice person like yourselves. This guy obviously had/has some issues within himself and rather than dealing with them he tried to berate you and your daughter. People need to mind their own business and stay out of everyone else's. I guarantee he has gone through the same thing with his kids and grandkids. Kids aren't perfect and will have periods of acting up/out because they are kids. Hell, we even have periods were we just want to act out as adults. You handled the situation well and deserve a pat on the back for keeping cool and not ripping this guy a new a**hole.

i cant stand people like that. i would have told him to mind his own business and that it did not concern him, if he had a problem i would point him to the door and say if he didnt like it the door was right there. now if i acted like that when i was a kid i would get whipped with my dads big leather belt. he still has that belt, thank God i havent been whipped with it in years. course i just didnt get punished with the belt, 2x4, coat rack, anything he could find. he would whip me around until he got tired. my grandpa was the same way. but i will tell you all, i never did the same thing again.

Wow what a douchebag!

In that situation, I would have looked that man dead in the eye and told him very slowly and very calmly to S-H-U-T T-H-E F-*-*-K U-P and that I didnt give a f**k about his opinon.

Julei, don't let this jerk cause you start questioning your parenting skills in any way. You and Tom are very nice people and no doubt are raising your daughter to be well behaved and respectful so that she grows up to be a very nice person like yourselves. This guy obviously had/has some issues within himself and rather than dealing with them he tried to berate you and your daughter. People need to mind their own business and stay out of everyone else's. I guarantee he has gone through the same thing with his kids and grandkids. Kids aren't perfect and will have periods of acting up/out because they are kids. Hell, we even have periods were we just want to act out as adults. You handled the situation well and deserve a pat on the back for keeping cool and not ripping this guy a new a**hole.

I agree. Kids will be kids. I mean you can only do so much. I just couldn't believe somebody had the nerve to call my daughter a nonster durectly to her face. She can't even defend herself. I think as the mother I really regret not ripping this guy a new ass, but walking away was the best thing. All I have to say is I don't speak to my daughter like that and how dare a stranger do so.

i cant stand people like that. i would have told him to mind his own business and that it did not concern him, if he had a problem i would point him to the door and say if he didnt like it the door was right there. now if i acted like that when i was a kid i would get whipped with my dads big leather belt. he still has that belt, thank God i havent been whipped with it in years. course i just didnt get punished with the belt, 2x4, coat rack, anything he could find. he would whip me around until he got tired. my grandpa was the same way. but i will tell you all, i never did the same thing again.

When I was a kid me ass would get spanked that is for sure. I use a little bit of both with the baby. I smack her butt if the deed was big enough and time out for the more minor stuff. Now adays you do any of that old fashioned stuff our parents could do you will go to jail.

Wow what a douchebag!

In that situation, I would have looked that man dead in the eye and told him very slowly and very calmly to S-H-U-T T-H-E F-*-*-K U-P and that I didnt give a f**k about his opinon.

You don't know how bad I wanted to, but I can tell you i was more angry than that and it wouldn't have ended easily. Not what I want to teach my little girl either. I want her to know to defend herself, but also to be respectful of the time and place. Sometimes it is just better to be the bigger person and walk away.

Sometimes it is just better to be the bigger person and walk away.

You could do what Stoney did and find the guys house and have some fun with his car there! :sneaky:
But he probably drives a Caddy, so it would be like hurting a family member :(

You could do what Stoney did and find the guys house and have some fun with his car there! :sneaky:
But he probably drives a Caddy, so it would be like hurting a family member :(

LOL:histeric:

Did you hear the story about the guy that hit him and didnt stop to help/ give insurance info?

He took down his plates, found the guys house and torched his car in the driveway!!! :histeric:

Did you hear the story about the guy that hit him and didnt stop to help/ give insurance info?

He took down his plates, found the guys house and torched his car in the driveway!!! :histeric:

No somehow I missed that one. His stories are always classics though.

No Stoneys is about 45 mins. away so I had just went to my local one. Stoney knows my daughter though and I don't think he would have taken kindly to what was said that is for sure. .
YOUR DAMN RIGHT ....I woulda trunked his ass ....Your daughter is cool as hell ....
Acutally it would have never happend , your daughter would have had the single biggest toy ever invented , the 179 pound stoney .....And if it was really a problem i woulda tossed you the keys to my car or took yall in the van to macdonalds or something ...

These things happen and it can get worse ....Reminds me of a little story ....

Few years ago we went to melborne florida to see my grandmother. After our 2 day visit we decided to get dinner at a Krystal Burger before headin back home. My little brother (who was like 3 back then) was Ill and naturally very cranky. Me and Dad walked across the lot to the grocery store to buy some cold mecdicne or tylenol or some shit. Next thing we know as were reading labels mom comes in in tears with a screaming little brother. Saying some guy just chased her acorss the lot calling her a child abuser and that if he caught her he was gonna beat her ass. What did she do that was so evil? She packed up my little brothers meal so he could eat it in the car , and he didnt want to. Dad and mom go back , and i have the little brother and the cold mecicine. I get back out to the van following them. I know my whole purpose in lfie is the ensure he is safe so im getting him int he van as i watch and hear what happens next. Dad walks in , mom (hysterical at this point) points , dad says "What the **** is your problem". and proceeds to beat this guy to the point that he is out cold on the floor in a pool of blood. They haul ass out to the van where i am and we take off , going like hell. With some dude in a van chaseing us. We hauled ass all the way back to st pete. Waiting for us ont he awnsering machine is the sheriff up there , basicly saying "were not pressing charges but if we ever catch you back here we will lock you up".....

AT the time is was a little disturbing , nowadays when someone int he family gets pissed we say "there going krystal" ....

Mom has never set foot in a "krystal" since ....Me and dad however .....we go often ....and giggle the whole time ...

Meh, he's old, he prolly doesn't have many days left. **** 'em. Haha you're better than I am, I have no parience for kids, so I probably won't reproduce.

When my mother was a teenager her older cousin had a baby. The cousin would laugh and play with the baby and say; "Oh, isn't he the ugliest baby you ever saw? Oh he's just so ugly." and she'd laugh, kiss and tickle her little boy. Finally one time my mother made the mistake of agreeing with her cousin; "Yes, he is the ugliest little baby I ever saw." To which her cousin snapped at her; "How dare you! Don't you ever call my baby ugly!"

The moral of that true little anecdote is;
NEVER say anything derogatory about someone else's child even if they ask for it, unless you want to start a fight!

bingo

FIRST OF ALL YOU SAID SHE MESSED UP BY NOT BRINGING ANY TOYS. AT 2 YRS OLD THAT'S MOMS JOB NOT A 2 YR OLDS. HAVE TO DO A LOT MORE DISIPLINING AT HOME BEFORE EXPECTING THEM TO ALWAYS BEHAVE IN PUBLIC. CRACK DOWN A LOT HARDER AT HOME & RAISE YOUR VOICE & MEAN WHAT YOU SAY TO HER. THEN WHILE OUT IN PUBLIC SHE'LL SEE THAT LOOK IN YOUR EYE & HEAR THAT TONE IN YOUR VOICE & KNOW YOU MEAN BUSINESS. NOT TRYING TO GET DOWN ON YA ABOUT YOUR MOTHERING ABILITIES BUT IF YOU GET STRICTER AT HOME , THEY'LL KNOW HOW TO BEHAVE IN PUBLIC. YOU ALSO SAID YOU PUT HER DOWN AFTER SPANKING HER & SHE RAN BACK INTO THE WAITING ROOM & STARTED ACTING UP AGAIN. LIKE I SAID BEFORE ( BE STRICTER). I HAD A BRADY BUNCH FAMILY WITH 6 OF MY OWN & 3 STEP CHILDREN I RAISED SINCE THEY WERE 9,9,11. I KNOW MY STUFF WHEN IT COMES TO DISIPLINE. I ALWAYS TOOK THEM AWAY TO THE BATHROOM OR WHEREVER IT TOOK BUT THEY KNEW DAD DIDN'T TAKE ANY SHIT WITH THEM SCREWING UP IN PUBLIC. I'VE ALWAYS WANTED SOMEONE TO TAKE ME TO COURT FOR DISIPLINING MY KIDS. I WOULD TELL THAT JUDGE WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DISIPLINE MY KIDS OR WOULD YOU LIKE THEN TO ALL TURN OUT TO BE HOODLUMS & GANG BANGERS? BE MORE STRICTER IS ALL I'M SAYING. TEACH THEM AT HOME & THEY'LL KNOW HOW TO ACT IN PUBLIC. ONLY MY OPINION. NOT TRYING TO GET DOWN ON YA. YES I THINK I WOULD'VE PUNCHED THAT GUY OUT ALSO. :want: LET ME DISIPLINE MY OWN CHILD & DON'T MAKE YOUR SNIDE REMARKS OR YOU BETTER BE ABLE TO BACK THEM UP.:want:

Now here's a topic I'd never think I'd see on the caddy forum, parenting skills. I have a 14 and a 16 year old and I know I'm far from out of the woods. I don't believe in striking a child for any reason. Let's try to reason this out. If you spank your child and it does not have the desired effect then what? Spank harder? More often? Maybe a slap across the face? At what point does physical violence beget more attentive or responsive children? I could go on but I'm most likely in the minority. My boys are both straight A honor roll students and we've been blessed. I can't imagine punching them to make a point.

My dad always used to yell at me because I never did my homework right or couldnt get the right answer or for anything he got mad about (and that was a lot)

I can really tell how much of an negative impact that had on my self esteem nowadays.

Yelling sucks :(

I'm Not Talking About Punching Or Slapping The Kids. I Just Said If You Are Stricter At Home. Give Them That Look & Tone Of Your Voice To Let Them Know You Mean Business. I Have Known & Seen Parents ( In Their Own Home) Sit There & Tell The Kid In A Mild Voice To Stop Doing Something For About 5 Or 6 Times. In That Way The Parent Is Slacking. I Was Saying I Would've Punched Out The Old Geezer That Was Mouthing Off.

My dad always used to yell at me because I never did my homework right or couldnt get the right answer or for anything he got mad about (and that was a lot)

I can really tell how much of an negative impact that had on my self esteem nowadays.

Yelling sucks :(
i agree .....went thru that myself .....wrong wrenches getting thrown and everything .....

but i look in the brightside ....I know what a "Torx bit" is from a 3/4 wrench .....not many other kids in the 4th grade knew that

I'm Not Talking About Punching Or Slapping The Kids. I Just Said If You Are Stricter At Home. Give Them That Look & Tone Of Your Voice To Let Them Know You Mean Business. I Have Known & Seen Parents ( In Their Own Home) Sit There & Tell The Kid In A Mild Voice To Stop Doing Something For About 5 Or 6 Times. In That Way The Parent Is Slacking. I Was Saying I Would've Punched Out The Old Geezer That Was Mouthing Off.

I'm assuming you're replying to my post. Mine was not directed at yours. :highfive: The only hitting my kids get is high fives.

FIRST OF ALL YOU SAID SHE MESSED UP BY NOT BRINGING ANY TOYS. AT 2 YRS OLD THAT'S MOMS JOB NOT A 2 YR OLDS. HAVE TO DO A LOT MORE DISIPLINING AT HOME BEFORE EXPECTING THEM TO ALWAYS BEHAVE IN PUBLIC. CRACK DOWN A LOT HARDER AT HOME & RAISE YOUR VOICE & MEAN WHAT YOU SAY TO HER. THEN WHILE OUT IN PUBLIC SHE'LL SEE THAT LOOK IN YOUR EYE & HEAR THAT TONE IN YOUR VOICE & KNOW YOU MEAN BUSINESS. NOT TRYING TO GET DOWN ON YA ABOUT YOUR MOTHERING ABILITIES BUT IF YOU GET STRICTER AT HOME , THEY'LL KNOW HOW TO BEHAVE IN PUBLIC. YOU ALSO SAID YOU PUT HER DOWN AFTER SPANKING HER & SHE RAN BACK INTO THE WAITING ROOM & STARTED ACTING UP AGAIN. LIKE I SAID BEFORE ( BE STRICTER). I HAD A BRADY BUNCH FAMILY WITH 6 OF MY OWN & 3 STEP CHILDREN I RAISED SINCE THEY WERE 9,9,11. I KNOW MY STUFF WHEN IT COMES TO DISIPLINE. I ALWAYS TOOK THEM AWAY TO THE BATHROOM OR WHEREVER IT TOOK BUT THEY KNEW DAD DIDN'T TAKE ANY SHIT WITH THEM SCREWING UP IN PUBLIC. I'VE ALWAYS WANTED SOMEONE TO TAKE ME TO COURT FOR DISIPLINING MY KIDS. I WOULD TELL THAT JUDGE WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DISIPLINE MY KIDS OR WOULD YOU LIKE THEN TO ALL TURN OUT TO BE HOODLUMS & GANG BANGERS? BE MORE STRICTER IS ALL I'M SAYING. TEACH THEM AT HOME & THEY'LL KNOW HOW TO ACT IN PUBLIC. ONLY MY OPINION. NOT TRYING TO GET DOWN ON YA. YES I THINK I WOULD'VE PUNCHED THAT GUY OUT ALSO. :want: LET ME DISIPLINE MY OWN CHILD & DON'T MAKE YOUR SNIDE REMARKS OR YOU BETTER BE ABLE TO BACK THEM UP.:want:

I agree that was my mistake as far as not bringing any toys. I told her three times to pick out what she wanted and she choose nothing. My way of thinking is she is perfectly capable of picking out her toys to bring just like she does every other time. I do not allow my daughter to have me do every little thing for her. As far as discipline again I will state this was a first time incident. My child does not have to be disciplined very often because she really doesn't misbehave. This was an extremely rare occasion. As far as being stricter how do you know how strict I am? I refuse first of all to beat my child's ass continuously she is only 2. A smack on the ass in my eyes is enough and only in really bad situations otherwise she gets a time out. I did the same thing outside as I would have done in the bathroom. After going outside the second time I allowed my daughter to be held in my arms and scream all she wanted. There is not much more to do than beat her ass or intimidate her and those are not options I choose as a parent. I am the type of parent that after every timeout I make sure she understands why she was made to sit and that she apologizes before she gets up. My child says please and thank you for everything given and is usually a very good listener. Not to say my kid is perfect but there are a lot of people who have met me on this forum with my daughter to have seen this with there own eyes. I am glad you stated that it was just your opinion and I respect that but as far as you judging me for what I do in my home and how I discipline there until you been there you really have no idea. You are giving an opinion on something you know nothing about. When I put my day to day schedule and itinerary on board then you can critique how I discipline in the home. As far as this incident I told it how it was. I have never had this situation arise before at home or any where else and I felt I handled her appropriately. You did your parenting your way and I will do mine my way. I didn't ask for opinions on how to handle my child I was just stating how I felt it was inappropriate for a stranger to look my child straight in the eyes and call her a monster. I don't know what kind of person someone who could say that would be but I don't speak to my child that way and I will be damned if someone else should. So please understand I am not angry for what you say and understand you have a right to your opinion, but as far as how I am as a parent you have no more of a right than that man at the Caddy dealership to judge me.

Be a good parent , have your car serviced at ed morse cadillac tampa today!


Im gonna hand that to the advertiseing department ...

FIRST OF ALL YOU SAID SHE MESSED UP BY NOT BRINGING ANY TOYS

Why would she need to bring toys for her daughter, shes at a Cadillac dealership for goodness sake! :D

MY OLDEST SON IS YOUR AGE & HE HAS A DAUGHTER ALSO. I WAS ONLY GIVING YOU ADVICE LIKE I WOULD HIM. DIDN'T MEAN TO STEP ON YOUR TOES. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. I RAISED MINE & HE'S RAISING HIS & YOU ARE RAISING YOURS.:thumbsup:

MY OLDEST SON IS YOUR AGE & HE HAS A DAUGHTER ALSO. I WAS ONLY GIVING YOU ADVICE LIKE I WOULD HIM. DIDN'T MEAN TO STEP ON YOUR TOES. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. I RAISED MINE & HE'S RAISING HIS & YOU ARE RAISING YOURS.:thumbsup:

Thanks, I appreciate that and if I ever meet you in person and you meet my daughter you will see what I am talking about. I didn't mean to sound like a bitch, but once today of someone who knows me from a hole in the wall telling me what I should do to parent better is enough.

You Never No We Might Meet Sometime. Lol I Have An Oppurtunity To Move To Zephyrhills, Fl. Soon. We'll Both Be In The Same Stomping Grounds Anyway. Except You Won't See Me In A Dealer Ship. I Do All My Own Work. So I Won't Be The Next Old Man You See. Lol. Later

You Never No We Might Meet Sometime. Lol I Have An Oppurtunity To Move To Zephyrhills, Fl. Soon. We'll Both Be In The Same Stomping Grounds Anyway. Except You Won't See Me In A Dealer Ship. I Do All My Own Work. So I Won't Be The Next Old Man You See. Lol. Later

Very good!!! Yhea we have lots of meets out here. Starting to put together one for the spring. Won't release anything on it untill everything is in order. If it works out it should be really a good one. Anyway please don't ever be that old man to any one. Like I said I could brush off what he said to me, but I swear if another person ever speaks to my daughter again like that I don't know that i would walk away again.

Why would she need to bring toys for her daughter, shes at a Cadillac dealership for goodness sake! :D

well it is always good to have a few small things or atleast a book. She always packs a purse with toys but she choose not to today. I wasn't overly concerned because i figured I would be in and out. I knew I was getting the rental just didn't think that would take an hour.

OK LETS CALL IT A TRUTHS. I'M NOT A CRANKY OLD MAN THAT DOESN'T LIKE KIDS. ASK ANY OF MY 8 GRAND KIDS. JUST GET A LIL WORKED UP SOMETIMES & LET MY ASS OVERRIDE MY MOUTH. & VISE VERSA. HAVE FUN WITH YOUR DAUGHTER. NEED ANY HELP ON THE CAR FEEL FREE TO ASK. LATER:thumbsup:

Julie didnt bring any toys along because she knew her daughter would love to see all those Caddies at the dealership..and read through all the brochures!

Right Julie?!

You Live In The Same City As My Company There I-luv-caddys. Eagan Mn

She was walking around looking at all the cars. Friday i was at a different dealership and they had the XLR in the showroom. Get this she walks right up in front of it looks at the lady I am talking to and says PLEEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEE. The woman couldn't resist and put her in the car. I took lots of pictures with my cell phone but I told the woman see thats my daughter she already has it down. She wants a Caddy and will have to deal with a used one for her first because I believe the first car is a gaurenteed accident.

very nice very nice!

I'm trying to get my 7 year old brother hooked on phoni.... Cadillacs, but he likes the ricer shit too much! :(

very nice very nice!

I'm trying to get my 7 year old brother hooked on phoni.... Cadillacs, but he likes the ricer shit too much! :(

LOL!!!!!!!! My daughter walks around saying cadillac but it is not easy to understand!

I've got a 5 year old daughter and a 2 year old son. I know EXACTLY what you are going through. I've been in these situations several times. Unfortunately both my kids are pretty rowdy although my daughter is getting a bit more controlled. Bottom line: kids will be kids, if others dont like what they see, they can get the funk out. Kudos for being controlled in the situation with the guy in the waiting room. I would have handled things much differently but I'm pretty agressive. My response would have been more in the lines of "You think she's a monster? I'll show you an f'in monster, lets go outside, hope you brought some extra depends with you cause you are gonna need them buddy".:eek:

As we all know, kids are not all the same. They are little individuals, what works for one kid may not work for another. It's up to us parents to know our children, to find out what is most effective in raising them.

My first daughter is very strong willed. She is very outgoing and loud, lots of personality. My younger daughter is more reserved. She was the sweetest little kid until her older sister taught her how to pitch fits!

Because of this I try not to offer advise unless I'm asked. I share stories and if they fit someone else's situation then maybe that other person might benefit from my experience. Otherwise, it's pretty foolish for strangers to tell what to do as though they had a clue who they were talking about.

My response would have been more in the lines of "You think she's a monster? I'll show you an f'in monster, lets go outside, hope you brought some extra depends with you cause you are gonna need them buddy".:eek:


LMFAO!!!!!!!!!

Bit of a dodgy topic this as it's a personal one and thus easy to take the wrong way.

But basically I agree with backyard mechanic.
I'm not questioning your parenting skills (far from it) but there's no way my parents would have let me get away with that sort of behaviour when I was a kid, they'd have given me something to yell about... I hate the modern child psychs who say that yelling and smacking (I'm not talking about beating here!) are things a child won't understand. I understood just fine.
The overly liberal approach to beinging up kids is what has been biting us in the ass more and more over the past 10-15 years. The old fashioned way is better imho. I can honestly say it did my no harm.


Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it, one comment from one guy one time is nothing to get worked up over. If people are always saying stuff like that then maybe take a look at things and ask yourself questions, but I'd take one person saying something as being their problem, not yours.
Just becuase the guy was at a car dealership doens't mean he can expect there to be no kids around. A fancy restaurant on the other hand would be different, there I think he has the right to expect peace and quiet and anyone being rowdy (be it an adult or child) should be asked by management to leave.


I appreciate your problem as my ex had a 6 year old and a 3 year old and the 3 year old in particular could be a complete nightmare if we were at the mall or wherever. She was always impressed with my patience with him, but frankly, as he wasn't my kid I couldn't very well do anything about it even if I wanted to.