: Mother looking for a car..... Nissan?



mccombie_5
12-14-05, 11:18 AM
My mother currently has a BMW 330 Cd, she loves it, but she wants something with four doors and a big "trunk" for tooling around in. Sometimes it isnt easy for her to get out of the beemer because its so low down, she is looking to spend about 10k UK. ($17k US) with a maximum of 15k, which is about $24k US, but you knew that :p

So she wants a big, cheap, comfortable four door, relatively powerful, smooth four door car. Preferabely with a V6

So far I have spoken to her about:

Toyota Camry (2002 - 11k)
Nissan Maxima QX (2002 - 10k)

I have thought about:

Volvo S80 2.4 (2002 - 11k)
Skoda Superb 2.8 V6 (2002 - 9k)

For those of you who dont know what a Skoda Superb is its basically a VW Passat with a long wheelbase and similar superb quality for less money

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/mccombie_5/Car%20Pictures%20-and%20other%20random%20crap%20i%20need%20to%20host/skoda_superb_2003_01_s.jpg

Blackout
12-14-05, 11:59 AM
I would say if she's looking for a nissan to go with the Maxima. *I don't know what Nissan's are available across the pond compared to here in the US* but the Maxima's are awesome cars and have good power and have a decent amount of options. I myself will be looking to get a Maxima in the spring. i would love to get a 2002-03 Maxima with a 6 speed manual but I think that will be out of my budget range, so I'm looking for 2001's with a 5 speed manual for the time being

powerglide
12-14-05, 12:04 PM
Honda Accord EX V6 ranked number one in the segment by car and driver.
I used to have one, its just great, quick, reliable as hell (80K miles not one problem).

Camry is coming out with an all-new model next year, so you can wait for the new one or use this info to drive a hard bargain. (I prefer the Honda)\

Maxima's ofcourse are nice. But I'm not big fan of the design or Nissan.

VW Passat
Audi6

...here's a thought....how about you give her your Buick !!

mccombie_5
12-14-05, 12:06 PM
We got this Maxima QX, we dnt get the gorgeous new one America gets, they just scrapped it here:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/mccombie_5/Car%20Pictures%20-and%20other%20random%20crap%20i%20need%20to%20host/nissan_03a.jpg

Its a good car, but nobody bought them because of their lack of prestige badge, a luxury/BMW 5 series rival with a Nissan badge is never going to sel well here, same story with the Camry, so theyre dirt cheap, and they have a V6 too :D

mccombie_5
12-14-05, 12:48 PM
Honda Accord EX V6 ranked number one in the segment by car and driver.
I used to have one, its just great, quick, reliable as hell (80K miles not one problem).

Camry is coming out with an all-new model next year, so you can wait for the new one or use this info to drive a hard bargain. (I prefer the Honda)\

Maxima's ofcourse are nice. But I'm not big fan of the design or Nissan.

VW Passat
Audi6

...here's a thought....how about you give her your Buick !!

Didnt see this post!

She wont drive the Buick its LHD, she isnt very confident with them.

The VW is not an option really, because you have to hunt for the V6 models, most are Diesels or 1.8 Petrols. The Camry is no longer sold here, Im looking at maybe 2002-2003 model cars, thats why the Maxima ranks, it isnt sold here either, I thought about the Honda, but its the enxt class down really, along with the Passat. There are some European ones I also considered, primarily the Skoda, but also the Peugeot 607, the Vauxhall Signum (Omega replacement) and the Renault Vel Satis

Pug 607:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/mccombie_5/Car%20Pictures%20-and%20other%20random%20crap%20i%20need%20to%20host/Peugeot-607---nosilna.jpg

Vauxhall Signum:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/mccombie_5/Car%20Pictures%20-and%20other%20random%20crap%20i%20need%20to%20host/vauxhall_signum_10_02_05.jpg

Renault Vel Satis:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/mccombie_5/Car%20Pictures%20-and%20other%20random%20crap%20i%20need%20to%20host/renault-vel-satis.jpg

The Vauxhall and Renault are hatchbacks, but because of depreciation, they are great used buys!

Jesda
12-14-05, 01:22 PM
Tidbit: The international Nissan Maxima is the same car as the US market Infiniti I30/I35.

mccombie_5
12-14-05, 01:39 PM
Tidbit: The international Nissan Maxima is the same car as the US market Infiniti I30/I35.

Yeah, I thought it was, didnt you used to get that as the Nissan Maxima though?

Jesda
12-14-05, 01:53 PM
Yeah, I thought it was, didnt you used to get that as the Nissan Maxima though?

No. :) But they're awfully similar under the skin, with tons of interchangeable mechanical and interior parts.

LittleB
12-14-05, 01:55 PM
Dang Mccombie!! Your family is constantly buying vehicles LOL, I'm jealous!

mccombie_5
12-14-05, 02:00 PM
No. :) But they're awfully similar under the skin, with tons of interchangeable mechanical and interior parts.

Similar outside too, the rear doors are a giveaway.

The same way America doesnt get the Nissan Primera, but you got the Infiniti G20?

They sell their ROW cars as Infiniti alot of the time?

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/mccombie_5/Car%20Pictures%20-and%20other%20random%20crap%20i%20need%20to%20host/1118747709dscn2720.jpg
^^ Primera ^^

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/mccombie_5/Car%20Pictures%20-and%20other%20random%20crap%20i%20need%20to%20host/80144743.jpg
^^G20^^

mccombie_5
12-14-05, 02:01 PM
Dang Mccombie!! Your family is constantly buying vehicles LOL, I'm jealous!

Its mainly me, but we are a car family, my mother just needs somethign to carry her pensioner friends in :D

LittleB
12-14-05, 02:03 PM
LOL!!! Umm I'm a car girl...but I don't have the money to have multiple cars :p

hardrockcamaro@mac.c
12-14-05, 02:05 PM
For 10K she could get a very nice Jeep Grand Cherokee.
Probably a 2002 model.

I'd suggest it's an easier car to get in than a saloon.

The Skoda is a very good car. A friend of mine has a VRS.
Not convinced with regards the seat material and general look of the trim, but no doubt hard wearing.

As Volvo's look good nowadays I'd consider one of them, also maybe a SAAB.

A Nissan isn't my cup of tea and while the Renault is quite plush and the Peugeot very pretty, I'd be worried about door handles coming off in my hand (don't laugh, I shut the door on my friends 3 month old Peugeot and the door handle actually fell off). Plus, a large French car is something you're liable to be stuck with forever.


But are other saloons any easier to get out of than a BMW?

(also, have you consiered Mercades or a large Audi?)

Jesda
12-14-05, 02:09 PM
Similar outside too, the rear doors are a giveaway.
The same way America doesnt get the Nissan Primera, but you got the Infiniti G20?

That older Primera in your first pic is 100% identical to the 92-96 US market G20. I'm not sure if the later 99-02 G20 (your second photo) has a European sibling?
Our Infiniti M45 is the same as the Nissan Fuga with a new grille and tail. The old M45 was the same car as the Nissan Gloria. And there's more...

Every Infiniti in the US except the original 90-96 Q45 (which was sold in Japan as an Infiniti Q45) is a rebadge from Japan.

mccombie_5
12-14-05, 02:19 PM
For 10K she could get a very nice Jeep Grand Cherokee.
Probably a 2002 model.

I'd suggest it's an easier car to get in than a saloon.

The Skoda is a very good car. A friend of mine has a VRS.
Not convinced with regards the seat material and general look of the trim, but no doubt hard wearing.

As Volvo's look good nowadays I'd consider one of them, also maybe a SAAB.

A Nissan isn't my cup of tea and while the Renault is quite plush and the Peugeot very pretty, I'd be worried about door handles coming off in my hand (don't laugh, I shut the door on my friends 3 month old Peugeot and the door handle actually fell off). Plus, a large French car is something you're liable to be stuck with forever.


But are other saloons any easier to get out of than a BMW?

(also, have you consiered Mercades or a large Audi?)


She dislikes 4x4s...

The French car thing worries me too, she probably wouldnt like either of those anyway.

The problem with the BMW is its a Coupe, a saloon is easier for her to open the doors (coupe=huge doors and they cant always be opened as wide as she needs) so a saloon is the best bet, V6 so it isnt a slouch, and four doors just for practicality, along with some leather seats and nice toys. 10k is a good price to pay fro alot of these, particularly the Volvo, since it was over 30k new.

The basics are: cheap, easy to enter/exit, four doors, V6. The Nissan, despite being boring is a good car, along with the Camry and the others, although the Frenchies are dodgy.

B: I wouldnt expect you to have a drivway full of cars, I pay a price too remember, I am old enough to have my mortgage paid.

mccombie_5
12-14-05, 02:26 PM
That older Primera in your first pic is 100% identical to the 92-96 US market G20. I'm not sure if the later 99-02 G20 (your second photo) has a European sibling?
Our Infiniti M45 is the same as the Nissan Fuga with a new grille and tail. The old M45 was the same car as the Nissan Gloria. And there's more...

Every Infiniti in the US except the original 90-96 Q45 (which was sold in Japan as an Infiniti Q45) is a rebadge from Japan.


We got this Primera for a few years before the 2002+ model was launched, otherwise, the Primera originally shown, was in circulation with minor changes for six or seven years.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/mccombie_5/Car%20Pictures%20-and%20other%20random%20crap%20i%20need%20to%20host/1118047092obraz001.jpg

This is the current Primera (2002 onwards):

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/mccombie_5/Car%20Pictures%20-and%20other%20random%20crap%20i%20need%20to%20host/primera.jpg

Playdrv4me
12-14-05, 03:29 PM
That Peugeot 607 is gorgeous! It looks like a mini S Class Mercedes!

mccombie_5
12-14-05, 03:42 PM
Its a nice looking car, filled with clever touches!

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/mccombie_5/Car%20Pictures%20-and%20other%20random%20crap%20i%20need%20to%20host/peugeot_607_2.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/mccombie_5/Car%20Pictures%20-and%20other%20random%20crap%20i%20need%20to%20host/peugeot607_08_1024x768.jpg

ben72227
12-14-05, 05:29 PM
What about a new Vauxhall Astra? Or a used Vectra?

mccombie_5
12-14-05, 05:39 PM
What about a new Vauxhall Astra? Or a used Vectra?

They sort of sit in a different league, if it were to be any Vauxhall it would be the Omega (yes your US Catera) because its a four door, V6 powered executive express.

The newer Vectra is a big car, but its VERY common, everyone and their granny has one. The Omega is slightly less common, but much smoother and has more toys.

The Astra is good, but as far as im aware its only available with a hatchback and a four pot engine. Its too small really.

The reason we liked the Camry adn Maxima is because they are luxury but they are cheap cheap cheap, a BMW of a similar year would be abotu 25k, and less smooth.

So far the Maxima is in the lead, but for 17,000 she can get a VW Phaeton 3.2 V6 (the golf R32 engine)

hardrockcamaro@mac.c
12-14-05, 06:13 PM
I think I'd prefer a Camry to a Nissan.

It looks nicer, I think the Nissans are ugly as sin.


I think this is an instance where I'd say, get the Phaeton!

mccombie_5
12-14-05, 06:58 PM
I thought that

But i dont want my mother to have the same car as me

it isnt cool

LOL

I think thats bigger than she bargained for

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-14-05, 07:28 PM
Isnt that Renault Val Satis a luxury hatchback? I've read about them in the british magazine "Car" and "Top Gear". From what I remember, they dont sell well, and are cheap to buy.

mccombie_5
12-14-05, 07:36 PM
Isnt that Renault Val Satis a luxury hatchback? I've read about them in the british magazine "Car" and "Top Gear". From what I remember, they dont sell well, and are cheap to buy.

Thats exactly what it is, they are very nice, and very cheap.

The Signum is the same thing but cheaper

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-14-05, 07:40 PM
interesting...those french make some odd cars (from an american's perspective)

mccombie_5
12-14-05, 07:55 PM
interesting...those french make some odd cars (from an american's perspective)

From ours too!!

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/mccombie_5/Car%20Pictures%20-and%20other%20random%20crap%20i%20need%20to%20host/avantime_d.jpg

This is based on a people carrier but it only has two doors and four seats

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-14-05, 07:57 PM
whoa, thats kinda neat looking!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-14-05, 07:59 PM
Is Renault a pretty mainstream auto manufacturer, or is it more upscale?
I was always interested in that, Renault V. Citroen V. Pugeot.

What was that wierd french car that was imported into america in the '70s that had like air spring suspension, and it looked very futuristic...I cant remember, I would know it if I heard it.

mccombie_5
12-14-05, 08:02 PM
Is Renault a pretty mainstream auto manufacturer, or is it more upscale?
I was always interested in that, Renault V. Citroen V. Pugeot.
What was that wierd french car that was imported into america in the '70s that had like air spring suspension, and it looked very futuristic...I cant remember, I would know it if I heard it.

It could be a few

Renault Fuego?

Citroen DS?

Citroen SM?

Reanutl is SLIGHTLY more upscale from Citroen and Peugeot, but Pug and Citroen are both owned by PSA.

mccombie_5
12-14-05, 08:06 PM
whoa, thats kinda neat looking!

Inearly bought one when it was new, i decided against it though, wish i had of now.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-14-05, 08:07 PM
It was a Citroen SM if I remember correctly, They had one in the movie Scarface. Tony had to assassinate the driver of the Citroen.

mccombie_5
12-14-05, 08:12 PM
It was a Citroen SM if I remember correctly, They had one in the movie Scarface. Tony had to assassinate the driver of the Citroen.

Citroen SM was a beautiful car:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/mccombie_5/Car%20Pictures%20-and%20other%20random%20crap%20i%20need%20to%20host/goodwood-02a.jpg

You know, those Renault Avantimes are only ten grand.......

Theyre nice, Ive always wanted one.....

ten grand isnt much is it for soemthing that cos over thirty new two years ago. I shouldnt think about gorgeous French cars late at night...

Blackout
12-15-05, 06:35 AM
Europeans make some funky looking cars. But have you looked at an older Jag? I know you guys love your Jag's over there. But unfortunatly I dunno as to what cars sell for over there so I wouldn't be too much help! Have you looked at an older Cadillac Catera aka Vauxaul <--Or however you spell it Omega? but if I were you I'd hand her the used car section of the newspaper or send her to a website for England for used cars and be like, "Ok, yell for me when you see something you like!"

fast66
12-15-05, 09:06 AM
I would get my mom a volvo. It is the safest car.
Good luck!

mccombie_5
12-15-05, 11:38 AM
Europeans make some funky looking cars. But have you looked at an older Jag? I know you guys love your Jag's over there. But unfortunatly I dunno as to what cars sell for over there so I wouldn't be too much help! Have you looked at an older Cadillac Catera aka Vauxaul <--Or however you spell it Omega? but if I were you I'd hand her the used car section of the newspaper or send her to a website for England for used cars and be like, "Ok, yell for me when you see something you like!"

Book price is 11,000 for a 2001 X-Type, so its within her budget, I just checked the price for a top spec 2003 Vauxhall Omega MV6, with the biggest 3.2 V6 engine, is only 11,200, it cost 25,000 new from the dealer only two years ago. $19,000 USD

hardrockcamaro@mac.c
12-15-05, 12:19 PM
The X-Type is a very good car.

I almost bought a brand new one, the 2.2L Diesel one (same angine as in Ford Mondeo ST Diesel).

mccombie_5
12-15-05, 03:55 PM
I just dont think tis her thing, it isnt as big as the Omega and she'd have to buy a four year old model.

mccombie_5
12-18-05, 01:37 PM
Were thinking about a 2002 Audi A8 2.8....
16,00 is a grand over budget, but its worth it