: rocky mountain radar/jammer any feedback?



mlg
12-03-05, 09:59 PM
want to really enjoy the permagrin so my buy 1 any feedback and what model to buy? thanxx

thebigjimsho
12-04-05, 01:31 AM
I can recommend 2 things. Learn proper grammar(I understood your title but not your subject line) and never buy anything from Rocky Mountain Radar. Ever.

a64pilot
12-04-05, 11:34 AM
There are NO radar/laser jammers for sale that will work. They belong in the same league as intake tornadoes. fuel line magnets for increased mileage,power etc. In case I haven't made myself clear enough, they are ALL worthless junk. Don't waste your money.

pbrv
12-04-05, 02:51 PM
dont waste tour money i had one for 3 days and replaced it with my valentine one best money ever spent

erp2863
12-04-05, 02:56 PM
There are NO radar/laser jammers for sale that will work. They belong in the same league as intake tornadoes. fuel line magnets for increased mileage,power etc. In case I haven't made myself clear enough, they are ALL worthless junk. Don't waste your money.

Actually this does work:

http://www.lidatek.com/

Plenty of good info can be found here:

http://www.radardetector.net/

turbojimmy
12-04-05, 09:39 PM
There are NO radar/laser jammers for sale that will work. They belong in the same league as intake tornadoes. fuel line magnets for increased mileage,power etc. In case I haven't made myself clear enough, they are ALL worthless junk. Don't waste your money.

There are radar/laser jammers that work, they're just illegal to build and use. However, the stuff from Rocky Mountain Radar is junk. There's an article on www.radartest.com all about it. I tried to link to it but it wouldn't work.

Jim

CVP33
12-04-05, 09:56 PM
Rocky Mountain Radar was equally as effective as my do-it-yourself jammer. Here's the instructions. Pierce your nipples with a 6 penny nail. Connect the nails with copper wire and then attach to a lantern battery. Also use a coat hanger as a base for a hat made out of tinfoil and place on your shaved head. You must drive with your shirt off for this to be fully effective. Not sure that my jammer actually works but the two times that I was pulled over with the jammer in place, the officers did not write me a ticket once I told him about my experiment. Both times the officers suggested I get help.

stkshkr
12-04-05, 11:35 PM
Roflmao

turbojimmy
12-05-05, 06:26 AM
Rocky Mountain Radar was equally as effective as my do-it-yourself jammer.

Have you actually built one and had it not work?

The reason the Rocky Mountain Jammers don't work is because they are 'passive jammers'. Code for "they don't do anything". As a product sold to the public is needs to comply with FCC rules that it does not interfere (deliberately or otherwise) with other radio devices. The purpose of a jammer is to do just that. It emits radio energy that intereferes with the police radar, and other radar detectors, and home security systems, and door openers and anything else that gets near it. Thus, any 'jammer' sold to the general public either doesn't work or won't be for sale very long. However, I don't know why it's so hard to believe that you can't build one yourself. It's a lot of hassle and is a federal crime, but you can easily find blueprints on the Web.

Jim

Flyboy
12-05-05, 09:33 AM
Had one ........ JUNK, JUNK, JUNK!!!!!! Run don't walk away from those guys......they should be in Jail for false advertising!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lasstss
12-05-05, 09:58 AM
Rocky Mountain Radar was equally as effective as my do-it-yourself jammer. Here's the instructions. Pierce your nipples with a 6 penny nail. Connect the nails with copper wire and then attach to a lantern battery. Also use a coat hanger as a base for a hat made out of tinfoil and place on your shaved head. You must drive with your shirt off for this to be fully effective. Not sure that my jammer actually works but the two times that I was pulled over with the jammer in place, the officers did not write me a ticket once I told him about my experiment. Both times the officers suggested I get help.

:histeric::cookoo: CVP do you have your own writer. I cant believe you come up with this stuff without help.

FCC... Its is illegal to have a device that 'transmits' . It is however legal to 'monitor' hence scanners, detectors etc.

I have heard that there is a new Laser detector that is really good. It was at SEMA but dont remember the name.

a64pilot
12-05-05, 10:51 AM
Long story short, I've typed this once and it just disappeared when hit submit?
Anyway in the late 70's I built a jammer for my brothers 930. It worked, very low power as all you have to do is overcome the radars return signal and that is very weak. Cool jammer as you could determine the speed the LEO radar would see by varying the output freq slightly. Your actual speed was irrelevant. Back then there was only X band. Now there are at least 4 seperate bands, I think. This would either require 4 xmitters or maybe you could "Barrage" jam them all. Barrage jamming requires a LOT of power, maybe enough to be unhealthy. With a jammer you have to be very fast on the xmit button. You shouldn't drive around xmitting as you and everyone around you would be blind as your xmitter would set off all of the local radar detectors. I used an Escort radar detector to trigger the jammer. Once triggered the thing went closed loop and would stay on until you turned off the detector. Of course any false signal would set it off as well. kinda annoying actually.
Yes it was illegal even back then. Don't know how hard it would be to build one now.
The most fun I had with the thing is at first I had it mounted in an old Ford pickup. I would drive around with the freq. ramped up (the higher the freq= higher speed on an approaching vehicle) and watch as the LEO's comic alarm would go off and he would start rapidly scanning for that very fast vehicle that didn't exist.

erp2863
12-05-05, 12:08 PM
Actually lasers are not governed by the FCC. It's the FDA. There are actually only a few states that have banned laser jammers. The Lidatek is an active jammer that does work. The principle behind jamming a laser gun is actually pretty simple if you know the physics behind how a laser acts like a wave and how to calculate speed from a reflected beam.

a64pilot
12-05-05, 12:27 PM
check this site out www.activejammers.com. Not saying they work, but at least they seem to make realistic claims, or maybe the con has just gotten more sophisticated

dqw1
12-05-05, 01:09 PM
A64pilot, A64pilot,hmm... does that equal AH-64. Please don't tell me you fly an Apache and drive a V!

dqw1
12-05-05, 01:13 PM
just seen your profile. Can't believe you got to fly a freakin' Apache. :cool: What is that like? Sorry to rush this thread but I had to ask.

a64pilot
12-05-05, 01:21 PM
A64pilot, A64pilot,hmm... does that equal AH-64. Please don't tell me you fly an Apache and drive a V!
Not any more I'm retired. After retirement I worked for Army Technical Testing Center at Ft. Rucker and in your neck of the woods, Redstone. Now I work for Thrush Aircraft as a production manager and production test pilot for the AG planes we make.

stkshkr
12-05-05, 02:46 PM
A64pilot: ever check your PM's?

V-Max
12-05-05, 03:04 PM
As Dave said it could be false advertising, as Rocky Mt. doesn't jam radar but confuses the radar gun's computer processing to lock-on to a speed by taking multiple samples which most departments require along with visual tracking. I have yet to receive a ticket when the officer shows me a locked speed after being asked too.

They can still get your speed from the gun by overiding the computer or listening to the Doppler and the converted speed. This is how the radar signs can show your speed even with a jammer because they don't use a computer. But it is not a lock-on speed which I usually go see the judge pleading no contest and the points are dropped.

Newbie LEO will give you a "double tap" or zap you again from the rear radar as they pass. So you'll need two facing both directions. :)

Norm

a64pilot
12-05-05, 03:29 PM
A64pilot: ever check your PM's?
:nono: Honestly I don't know. I've tried to send a few and haven't figured that one out either, and I'm really not computer illerate either

Luna.
12-05-05, 03:34 PM
Rocky Mountain Radar was equally as effective as my do-it-yourself jammer. Here's the instructions. Pierce your nipples with a 6 penny nail. Connect the nails with copper wire and then attach to a lantern battery. Also use a coat hanger as a base for a hat made out of tinfoil and place on your shaved head. You must drive with your shirt off for this to be fully effective. Not sure that my jammer actually works but the two times that I was pulled over with the jammer in place, the officers did not write me a ticket once I told him about my experiment. Both times the officers suggested I get help.

LMAO...:histeric:

That about sums it up...

stkshkr
12-05-05, 03:49 PM
look in the upper right hand corner of the page, it says welcome a64pilot...click on private messages

thebigjimsho
12-06-05, 03:44 PM
As Dave said it could be false advertising, as Rocky Mt. doesn't jam radar but confuses the radar gun's computer processing to lock-on to a speed by taking multiple samples which most departments require along with visual tracking.The only thing any Rocky Mountain Radar device confuses is the poor sap who sent their money to these frauds, PERIOD.

thebigjimsho
11-11-08, 03:59 PM
The only thing any Rocky Mountain Radar device confuses is the poor sap who sent their money to these frauds, PERIOD.
Quoted for truth, mah peeps!

MauiV
11-11-08, 05:06 PM
Has anyone tried or know anything the K40 System? I am considering one, but going to need to see proof with my own eyes.

A guy I know with a GT3, 996 and a 911 Turbo that SWEARS by them, but he also sells them so..... They are tested by a local cop friend for radar and laser effectiveness.

http://k40.com/home_main.html

How about the Blinder system?

randycsvt
11-11-08, 10:22 PM
Way to revive a 3 year old thread.

CadzillaTN
11-11-08, 10:54 PM
old threads are cool. I read them all day...
RMR was crap. hell, they have been ripping off folks since the early 90s. I remember when all the jammers debuted.

Maui- my buddy had a K40 in his Tahoe back in 95. It was always awesome, other than against instant-on (of course)..had the concealed display. 2 very small lights. wasnt cute- but major stealth...
he later got the valentine1, it was reliable too but a brick.

It took me about 10 years to learn to be prudent when I speed and I have not had a ticket in 8 or more yrs...That meant speeding about 90% less and beefing up the remaining 10%. The best detector is your eyes, because once you spot them you are hosed anyway.. detectors will usually guarantee you a ticket, and they should really. They imply the intent to speed. This is coming from someone with probably 20 tickets.

complete honesty, humility, and a respectful but not ass kissing attitude will get you out of almost every ticket. there are plenty of liars and wackos to ticket..

814V
11-11-08, 11:55 PM
man i have been looking for a detector on craigs list and now i not so sure about one...

supernova_inc
11-12-08, 12:14 AM
Whomever had my car previously installed a diretly wired system. It has a sensor in the front behind the mesh grille, a receiver up near the mirror that looks more or less stock and tucked up in the black shade of the windshield and has the two little lights installed into the dash with a on off and volume knob underneith. The only thing is that I cannot find the manufacturer to find out any info on it. It is a blast to have, in the city I just leave it off as I don't speed. The highway it is nice for setting the cruise 5-10 over when out in the middle of nowhere.

814V
11-12-08, 12:59 AM
honestly i am surprised to see how many people say they do not speed.. how the hell can you have this car and not go fast? maybe i am just young and stupid still but the car just wants to go. im not saying ever where i go i drive retarded but when the timing is right i like to stretch her legs a bit :lildevil:

stuckey
11-12-08, 02:26 AM
honestly i am surprised to see how many people say they do not speed.. how the hell can you have this car and not go fast? maybe i am just young and stupid still but the car just wants to go. im not saying ever where i go i drive retarded but when the timing is right i like to stretch her legs a bit :lildevil:

:yeah:

AirCav
11-12-08, 03:19 AM
Has anyone tried or know anything the K40 System? I am considering one, but going to need to see proof with my own eyes.

A guy I know with a GT3, 996 and a 911 Turbo that SWEARS by them, but he also sells them so..... They are tested by a local cop friend for radar and laser effectiveness.

http://k40.com/home_main.html

How about the Blinder system?Yeah, you can't win. Ask a question....do a search/check the FAQ. Do a search and need some more info....why'd you drag up that ancient thread? :thumbsup:

I was looking for a "hidden" system for my V and almost bought the K40. A local audio shop sells and installs them. I did some research and the reviews weren't so good. Outdated was the recurring theme. This was a couple years ago, maybe they have something new. Keep in mind that a hidden system is a compromise and performance will be affected.

I decided on the Beltronics "RX75 Plus" remote with laser "shifting (jamming). (Passport SR7/SRX is the same equipment, slightly different packaging) Mounted the control box in the ash tray cubbie, out of sight of Johnny law.

They are expensive through authorized dealers/installers but so is the K40. You can find substantial discounts on Ebay through "gray market" sellers if you can install yourself or have an independent installer available.

I see Bel has a new one....Sti-R remote. I'd look at that one if I was shopping now. The STi (non-remote) has tested very well for several years.

Some pretty good reading about detectors and laser jammers: http://www.guysoflidar.com/

Natedog
11-12-08, 11:26 AM
A buddy of mine has a newly installed k40 and swears by it... its bluetooth too which is pretty sick but runs about 2k. I'm running with the Passport 8500 x50 and am looking to pick up the ZR3 Laser Shifters to have the ultimate protection.... read up... there are quality products out there that DO work

thebigjimsho
11-12-08, 12:09 PM
A V1, maybe a Blinder laser jammer, good eyes and staying out of the fast lane when possible as well as letting the rabbits do your bidding should keep you ticket-free...

p0ng0rs
11-12-08, 01:39 PM
Speeding between the corners, not around them, keeps you ticket free.
<--V1 owner for at least 6 maybe 7 years, awesome device.
Detectors are legal(minus the 3 states), intent to speed is irrelevent(technically), and being respectful to officers generally does get you out of most crap (speeding, dui's, etc). There is a lot of law and regulation surrounding how the state must collect and prove data such as bagging you with radar/laser, what's admissable and not in court. I haven't had a ticket in nearly 5 years thanks to the first point I mentioned.. learning when and where you can stretch the legs is much more important than having a detector/jammer, but together you can change from 2 tickets, 1 conviction a year for 5 years, to zero tickets in the same time.

thebigjimsho
11-12-08, 02:32 PM
Speeding between the corners, not around them, keeps you ticket free.
<--V1 owner for at least 6 maybe 7 years, awesome device.
Detectors are legal(minus the 3 states), intent to speed is irrelevent(technically), and being respectful to officers generally does get you out of most crap (speeding, dui's, etc). There is a lot of law and regulation surrounding how the state must collect and prove data such as bagging you with radar/laser, what's admissable and not in court. I haven't had a ticket in nearly 5 years thanks to the first point I mentioned.. learning when and where you can stretch the legs is much more important than having a detector/jammer, but together you can change from 2 tickets, 1 conviction a year for 5 years, to zero tickets in the same time.
Great post.

14 year V1 owner hurr.

MauiV
11-12-08, 05:01 PM
I have an Escort X50 Blue that I have always been happy with but recently the "Service Required" message has been popping up and on the way home today every time I throttled up hte laser detector would go off, almost like the Maggie was setting it off when the boost went up. So f'in weird. All I can figure is electrical interference from the Magnavolt maybe.

Anyone else?

I need to call Passport.

CadzillaTN
11-12-08, 07:55 PM
more old threads! more old threads!



Speeding between the corners, not around them, keeps you ticket free.
<--V1 owner for at least 6 maybe 7 years, awesome device.
Detectors are legal(minus the 3 states), intent to speed is irrelevent(technically), and being respectful to officers generally does get you out of most crap (speeding, dui's, etc). There is a lot of law and regulation surrounding how the state must collect and prove data such as bagging you with radar/laser, what's admissable and not in court. I haven't had a ticket in nearly 5 years thanks to the first point I mentioned.. learning when and where you can stretch the legs is much more important than having a detector/jammer, but together you can change from 2 tickets, 1 conviction a year for 5 years, to zero tickets in the same time.


I do agree that the detector gives you the added protection, if your intent is to speed...hahhaa.. im in a ribbing mood. just my opinion... I had a list of reasons over the years for having mine, but the cost to keep up with all the emerging radar bands and laser technology got annoying. I should mention that NOT having one also prevents me from those few times I probably should have slowed down... but you sound like you already have the right strategy.

If i'm an officer, and I bag someone with a detector, they're getting a ticket. I would consider it a special catch since my fuzz got past his device..

so im curious if you've been pulled over any within that 5 yrs?



The bottom line for me is, doesn't matter what kind of detector you have, if the cop takes the time and effort, he'll get you.:bacon::bacon::bacon:

I remember the huge original fuzzbusters..X band baby... Then K came along, KA, superwide KA,laser yadayada
Ive had many..The BELs were great. Uniden was very good.
Passports and escorts were always good too but I called my buddies yuppies for ordering them. (no offense Maui). Their cordless is the best.

Remember whistlers? Top of the line performance. Walmart $188.


and now for some needless smiles
:Palin::leghump::rave::aj::ride::shens:
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aquill1
11-12-08, 10:03 PM
The single best tip to avoid being pulled over IMO is staying out of the fast lane. If you have to speed excessively stay out of the fast lane. I find myself only doing 5 over for extended periods of time with a max of staying below 10 over. Generally speaking doing 79 in a 70mph zone 9/10 cops wont pull you over. I've asked many officers what their take is and they all say the same thing.

Off topic but on a recent trip home/Texas from Michigan my wife got hit doing 19 over, the cop pulled her over for speeding and for the hitch mounted cargo carrier, which was blocking our plate. He was cool and said he wouldn't have pulled us over but we had 2 violations and nobody was doing anything too crazy so he had to pull us over (19 over IMO is kind of crazy but to eash his own!) He let us go but said he had to write a warning so it didn't appear like he just sat in his car all day. It's all about the cop and I've never been given a break when I've gotten pulled over, that should change soon...

My point is 5 over is nothing on a 55mph road...

In the V though you have to speed...I test drove one yesterday and my was that fun...reminded me of my bike...my smile described it best... :>

Bueller
11-12-08, 10:30 PM
+1 for the V1

Mine is mounted to the mirror. I got pulled for a silly new personalized plate glitch (before I got the new plate). Wasn't speeding much.

The po po didn't even notice the V1 just under the mirror.

I know for sure it saved me at least 5 times in the last year. I like knowing if they are behind, in front, or to the sides.

I researched the jammers...but after the wife got me the V1 for xmas a few years ago (didn't even ask for it) I never looked back.

The V1 is updatable to the most current technology for a small fee.

This thread made me go to the v1 site to check; and I have the newest version. You can send it to them and get it updated. Nice.

Let her eat.

p0ng0rs
11-13-08, 10:07 AM
Zilla: In the past 5 years I've been pulled over twice for speeding.. once out of state on business in a rental SUV where I managed to coast down a hill gaining speed into an oncoming officer tagging me the whole time.. I had no V1 which according to what he told me "I didn't decide to pull you over until you kept getting faster." would have kept me from getting the ticket since I would have hit the brakes the moment she went off.. laser or not if he wasn't lying even if he tagged me over the limit he claims he would have let it go if I didn't keep coasting. Either way thanks to DMV's being in the stone-age of technology that doesn't effect my license/insurance since DMV's aren't centrally linked between states. The other time was on labor day weekend on a KNOWN day, cruise controlled on the highway at like 70 (Usually I drive 75 all around with no problems, but on labor day after hitting 2 spot checks I took it down a notch).. This was in the V, with the V1 on all bogey mode, Ka sensitivity turned up. I saw the cruiser on the side of the highway and didn't even kill my cruise control since the V1 was silent. I think the cop thought I was going much faster than I was, he pulled out pulled me over and started accusing me of speeding, that he had to beat on his car to catch up, yada yada, I said nothing I'll deal with it in court in Jan. Speaking of good tricks. Don't ever plead guilty, and always show up to court dressed nice. The trash that shows up to the courts around here is such inner-city scum the DA's let me slide all the time.. same rule applies as dealing with the officers.. just be polite and respectful. They deal with so many hoodlims it's refreshing to them.


One more thing about the V1's being awesome is their upgrade policy. Typically you can send any unit in and have it upgraded to the latest technology for far less than retail cost of a new unit. Especially if it's some sort of logic upgrade that just needs a flash of the firmware. If they have to install physical hardware it goes up a bit but still a lot less than a new unit.

CadzillaTN
11-13-08, 07:49 PM
Zilla: I think the cop thought I was going much faster than I was, he pulled out pulled me over and started accusing me of speeding, that he had to beat on his car to catch up, yada yada, I said nothing I'll deal with it in court in Jan. Speaking of good tricks. Don't ever plead guilty, and always show up to court dressed nice. The trash that shows up to the courts around here is such inner-city scum the DA's let me slide all the time.. same rule applies as dealing with the officers.. just be polite and respectful. They deal with so many hoodlims it's refreshing to them.



yep. same way here. If you actually do get a ticket in the city, you have a 99% chance of getting off clean just for surviving the guantlet of crime; aka the journey from anywhere nice in Memphis, to the to the courthouse.:gun2:
most people wont even go down there...they just pay it by mail. Unless you get more than 30 over, then you have to go. :( ...but still can get off just for showing up :)