: Can You Believe it? 2008 Packard V12!



Ralph
10-30-05, 12:05 AM
Here's a new company which intends to build a new ultra-luxury sedan, resurrecting the great old Packard brand. An older couple from Alberta (that's in Canada) took their profits from (I believe) their agricultural implements company and bought the name. They've built this prototype which they showed at Pebble Beach two years ago. Amazingly, it's going to have a 525 cubic inch V12, and all-wheel drive. And they've engineered it all by themselves, without basing it on any other car or drivetrain.


http://img493.imageshack.us/img493/9153/packard29dk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/3273/packard13fc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Here are some pictures:

http://www.packardmotorcar.com/pg.htm

Here are the specs:

http://www.packardmotorcar.com/specs.htm


Apparently, they're looking for investors ...

Adam
10-30-05, 12:15 AM
to me it looks like the offspring of a Jag and a Rolls. nice though. maybe this will shock life back into the V16 and Cadillac will wise up and make it. that is a slap in the face, WAKE UP CADILLAC, YOUR OLD COMPETITION IS COMING BACK AND SWINGIN WEIGHT!!!!!!!!!


Here's a new company which intends to build a new ultra-luxury sedan, resurrecting the great old Packard brand. An older couple from Alberta (that's in Canada) took their profits from (I believe) their agricultural implements company and bought the name. They've built this prototype which they showed at Pebble Beach two years ago. Amazingly, it's going to have a 525 cubic inch V12, and all-wheel drive. And they've engineered it all by themselves, without basing it on any other car or drivetrain.


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Here are some pictures:

http://www.packardmotorcar.com/pg.htm

Here are the specs:

http://www.packardmotorcar.com/specs.htm


Apparently, they're looking for investors ...

Sandy
10-30-05, 12:30 AM
Ralph, you are so behind....

That "new" Packard company & that car were paraded around in 2001. In 2003 they went broke. The guy disapeard and it's unknown what happened to thar car. Older than last week's donuts !

Ralph
10-30-05, 12:51 AM
Ralph, you are so behind....
That "new" Packard company & that car were paraded around in 2001. In 2003 they went broke. The guy disapeard and it's unknown what happened to thar car. Older than last week's donuts !

I thought the same thing, until I noticed that their site was updated as recently as this April. It appears they're not gone, they're just looking for fresh investors. So it's still a possibility that they'll make good.

But I'd love to find some links talking more about all this. Where did you find out that the guy had gone broke and disappeared?

Ralph
10-30-05, 01:01 AM
And then in 2002, Warren Packard, the grandson of the founder, decided to design his own, further complicating things ...

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/379/carportalpic38015ze.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/19049/rival_packard_is_revealed.html

Here's a reply he posted to a collectible car forum in 2003, when he was still looking for investors.

"Hello Guy:

Thank you for the invite. We'll give it a try, although we have a limited amount to time to respond to direct questions, we have no problem with posting periodic up-dates on our activities. We do get a lot of enquiries about the new Packard project as well as general questions about older Packards, all of which we answer to the best of our ability.

Ninety percent of our time is spent on the new Packard project in efforts to get in place a solid, long-term financing arrangement that will allow engineering completion and begin low volume production. We have two companies now that are interested, and we are expecting proposals from them soon.

We've had excellent response to the concept, the business plan, and the new Packard itself and we believe it just takes patience and a reasonable amount of exposure for the right connections to be made. We have the assistance of a financial services firm in Scottsdale, AZ, International Mergers and Aquisitions, who are confident of an eventual satisfactory deal.

We anticipate doing styling up-dates, interior styling and refinement in the next stage of development.

At the present time, we are also tooling for the running board side trim for 1940 series 1803 and up Packard Super Eight One-
Sixty and One-Eighty models. These are un-available at the present time, and they were very subject to internal rusting and damage. This is a very low-volume item and will be doing well if the costs are covered from sales, but we felt it was a good thing to do.

We'll try to keep you up-dated. Feel free to post this.

Regards,
Roy Gullickson

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:XE39KCIZ2_MJ:www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php%3FCat%3D%26Board%3DUBB45%26Number%3D2 35003%26page%3D0%26view%3Dcollapsed%26sb%3D5%26o%3 D%26fpart%3D1+%22roy+gullickson%22&hl=en

Sandy
10-30-05, 01:17 AM
Been so long that I forgot, I also saw the adv. trying to sell that 2001 Package for a million dollars. Don't know what happened. Faded from limelight.

Ralph
10-30-05, 04:08 AM
Been so long that I forgot, I also saw the adv. trying to sell that 2001 Package for a million dollars. Don't know what happened. Faded from limelight.

Looks like he might have tried to sell on ebay, but he didn't sell it after all......

davesdeville
10-30-05, 06:02 AM
209" long, 73" wide, and it weighs 3750? Hell my 75 is 22" longer and 7" wider. That seems a bit small for ultra-luxury.

psykiv
10-30-05, 08:06 AM
i dont like it

HotRodSaint
10-30-05, 11:19 AM
That's one of the ugliest cars I've ever seen, and to top it off it's painted in the gay-est possible color for such an ugly car. :ill:

mccombie_5
10-30-05, 11:26 AM
I agree, although it's size looks promising, which is a good thing. Its about time we had some BIG sedans back. I think the current biggest are Maybach or Rolls Royce, we need cheaper lethevians!

Playdrv4me
10-30-05, 12:08 PM
That thing is a horrific cross between a Chevy Nova and a Bentley.

Ralph
10-30-05, 03:41 PM
That's one of the ugliest cars I've ever seen, and to top it off it's painted in the gay-est possible color for such an ugly car. :ill:

I'm almost certain they would offer it in more than one color.;) Personally I think the initial impact might be greater if it were in silver and black, like a recent Maybach paint scheme. The bulbous areas of the side panaling could be silver, while the rest black and I think it would be striking in that combo. I definately can see the classic features of some luxurious 1940's and '50's cars in this one, yet it looks classic, it also is fresh and original overall imo. Keeping in mind also that if and when they get more investors, size, colors, and front-end styling, etc. may all be subject to change. When you are building a new car from scratch, they are likely on a tight budget to offer something to present to the public, investors, etc. so they may not produce the LARGEST vehicle for this purpose.....

I appreciate the work that must have gone into this "project" for what it is, escpcially creating an all new engine from scratch. If this ever becomes produced, it might make Cadillac think twice about offering an upscale RWD with a V12 to at least be competitive with the big boys.

With a 119 in. wheelbase that sucker will glide along the bumps.

mtflight
11-01-05, 01:18 AM
Looks like a mutant. Reminds me of the odd looks of the Kia Amanti, except worse.

:ill: That look bothers me. The salmon color does not help either...

Randy_W
11-01-05, 07:22 AM
That is one ugly S.O.B.:bonkers:

70eldo
11-01-05, 07:55 AM
It's neitehr the size of the car nor the size of the engine. It's just... HORRIBLE! to look at

And it's not a retro look. It's just an old design style...

70eldo
11-01-05, 08:10 AM
You read the comments?
Comments:
- Packard® is coming back??!!!! ("are you nuts?")
- Most often – beautiful!
- Lovely car
- Very interesting ("how did you come up with this?")
- Wonderful
- Clean lines
- Great looking car
- Balanced (yeah; ugly and ugly)
- Gorgeous
- Outrageous (again: "are you nuts?")
- Impressive
- Awesome
- Beautiful design
- Exquisite workmanship
- Very special
- Awesome lines
- Incredible
- Can’t believe it (well, me neither!!!)
- A real head turner (that's not alway good. I would turn my head the other way)
- Show stopper (this is not good either. "Stop the show: this sucks!")
- Draws attention ("Packard is coming back?")
- Unique (True. Thank goodness!)
- Classic
- Just gorgeous
- Sporty, yet classy (Indian motorcycle owner)
- Reflection of the past in new skin (that was the reflection of an old face in the new finish)
- One of the most interesting cars here!
- 14 year olds’ comments – ‘Cool’ ’OK’ ‘Nice car’
- Really like the flowing lines
- Beautiful classic lines, but modern, too
- I love your courage (yup, you got balls, but...)
- Packards were the best – they should still be around

Most common comment when seeing the engine – ‘WOW!’ (I do agree here)
There were some suggestions which will be seriously considered. (yeah, you should)

Sorry folks, couldn't resist...:halo:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-01-05, 11:40 AM
that car has a horrendously ugly front end....redesign it, make the grill bigger, make the headlights bigger and square and then it may be better.

But im glad to see that packard may be back!

mtflight
11-01-05, 12:45 PM
Here's a new company which intends to build a new ultra-luxury sedan, resurrecting the great old Packard brand.


And they've engineered it all by themselves, without basing it on any other car or drivetrain..
Apparently, they're looking for investors ...

They need to quit before they lose everything... "Land of the Mutants" design theme is nauseating at best. :thepan: