: Any suggestions on good security for my ESV..



BIG SPENDER
10-24-05, 09:31 PM
Hello everyone, I just got another 04 ESV Platinum to replace the 04 Red one that was stolen back in Aug. 19 2005. This time the wife wanted a white Dimond one.... My question to anyone, what best Immobilizer system is good, what Alarm with pager and what tracing device is good too. This time I don't want it to go missing.. Any help would be greatly appriciated, this is something I'm going to do within the next week.

Thanks

Boombotz
10-24-05, 09:37 PM
Get Lojack, It is the best for locating a stolen vehicle. Also get the bar that locks the brake pedal from being pressed down, it hooks to the steering wheel, Don't waste your money on "The Club".

Congrats on the new Lade. I hope you didn't take to much of a loss.

Supercrew632
10-25-05, 12:57 AM
Have steel plates welded under the door handle on the inside----they are so easy to punch just below the handle and unlock the door---have seen hundreds at my dealer----

SUPERCREW632

Falkolade
10-25-05, 01:01 AM
lojack... gps will find your car, and is not weak like onstar... I am not an onstar fan. I personally don't have any added security b/c my truck is just stock, but lojack is far better than viper, or avital... that stuff is kiddy s**t compared to lojack

mikeee
10-25-05, 10:42 AM
I had the best alarms installed over and over and failed. This is costly but what I did was installed 5 "dead-bolt" type locks. One on each door, which function with the remote or manually. These are not replacing the fatcory lock. theyre in addition to them. So even if my factory keyhole was broken into, they still wont be able to open the door.

Also ran a second battery and installed the alarm to it. So if they get under the hood and cut the main battery line, the alarm will still go off. 2 sirens outside, under hood and behind rear bumper. And one inside in the very rear speaker housing.

Lastly, I relocated the hood release lever under the steering wheel to another spot in the car. So pulling the factory lever will do nothing. And just incase they find the lever, I relocated the outside hood release to a pull method which is inside the grill itself, Mercedez style.

Also plan on installing a pinhole camera with sensors that will take constant pictures when it detects motion in the car.

Exsessive? Maybe, but not if you've been through what I have, and insurance companies always find a way to screw you out of what you deserve. Not to mention I've waited years to get my escalade, so its worth it to me.

Lojack and all the gps tracking dvices are great, but not if theyre installed by a high volume place because they stick them in the same spot in every vehicle and the easiest thing to do is yank it out and throw it out the window.

Even the people who installed my system would need a solid 10 to 15 minutes to shut the alarm off.

BIGHOMIE
10-25-05, 12:56 PM
Mikee, can you give more detail information on your security mods that you have done to your truck for security reasons?

I am interested on your dead bolt locks install and your hood lever relocation so I can do this to my Escalade.

The pinhole camera idea is off the hook and I would to do that to my truck also.

Please hit me up

jrs05caddyext
10-25-05, 01:16 PM
I had the best alarms installed over and over and failed. This is costly but what I did was installed 5 "dead-bolt" type locks. One on each door, which function with the remote or manually. These are not replacing the fatcory lock. theyre in addition to them. So even if my factory keyhole was broken into, they still wont be able to open the door.

Also ran a second battery and installed the alarm to it. So if they get under the hood and cut the main battery line, the alarm will still go off. 2 sirens outside, under hood and behind rear bumper. And one inside in the very rear speaker housing.

Lastly, I relocated the hood release lever under the steering wheel to another spot in the car. So pulling the factory lever will do nothing. And just incase they find the lever, I relocated the outside hood release to a pull method which is inside the grill itself, Mercedez style.

Also plan on installing a pinhole camera with sensors that will take constant pictures when it detects motion in the car.

Exsessive? Maybe, but not if you've been through what I have, and insurance companies always find a way to screw you out of what you deserve. Not to mention I've waited years to get my escalade, so its worth it to me.

Lojack and all the gps tracking dvices are great, but not if theyre installed by a high volume place because they stick them in the same spot in every vehicle and the easiest thing to do is yank it out and throw it out the window.

Even the people who installed my system would need a solid 10 to 15 minutes to shut the alarm off.

More info. on that camera and the hood release lever.

mikeee
10-25-05, 01:53 PM
I will try and take pics soon to show you what all I've done, but let me explain...

An additional actuator was installed in each door, including the hatch. They cut open a small and clean opening across from the bolt where it would go to. Its that simple really. I'll have to ask the shop where they got them, but it really does look like the deadbolt on any home's front door. Matter of fact they make remote locks for homes and it could be one of those, but I will ask and make sure.

I dont have the camera yet, but from my experience with TONS of rear view cameras and such, you totally get what you pay for. An OK camera will cost about 400 bucks, but a really good camera with real night vision that can be connected to a laptop and snap shots will cost much more. I'll be mounting mine just under the Parking Lights indicator in the back.

The hood release was the easiest thing to do. I've done it myself with all my cars. Its basically a cable with nut at the end. You just unhook the nut, then hide the cable. you dont need the handle to pop the hood, you can just pull on the cable. I did mine right, extended the cable and mounted it under the passenger airgbag area.

The hood release was tricky, but they did it. On the factory, you sneak you hand in between the hood and the grill, find the lever and pull up. With mine there is no lever any more, it is connected to a hollow bar pointing down and ends in a L shape. Theres a cable in the L shaped bar with a triangle at the end. The triangle is what you grab with your index finger and thumb and pull to open the hood. Im probably making sound more complicated than it is. Its not. If you look at the factory mechanism you should picture it easily.

It works, I challenged lots of friends to open the hood. No one is able to unless you know exactly where everything is.

Black Beauty 03 ESV
10-25-05, 11:45 PM
I like this alot. What area are you from? I would like to find out more about these mods.... I've put a lot of money into my truck not to mention the extra insurance. Please contact me personally @ servicesunlimitedi@juno.com:thumbsup:

Synergetic
10-26-05, 04:58 AM
A quality aftermarket alarm will kill the batteries immediately and will prevent the truck from being started. Its the trick of hiding the alarm in a good location under the hood. This way, if the hood is removed without being unlatched... the alarm will go off and it will take them a damn while to find the aftermarket alarm to disarm it. By the time they found it, your Viper remote alarm key system would have informed you and you would have kicked the guys ass. Stock alarm, aftermarket alarms, Viper remote system, LoJack is what is equipped in my Escalade. So far, no attemps have been made to steal mine... since August of 2001.

BIG SPENDER
10-26-05, 01:36 PM
This is great guy's, i like all the info you've given me. I like Mikee's idea's, if we could get some pic's it would help make me see what you have done. I called my insurance company in regards to what they suggest and recomend as a immobilizer unit. They gave me two Canadian company's, one is called Powerlock and the other is Masterguard the m6000. If you all can keep sending other suggestions that would be great.

thanks

TheMDbandit
11-01-05, 03:02 AM
Get Lojack, It is the best for locating a stolen vehicle. Also get the bar that locks the brake pedal from being pressed down, it hooks to the steering wheel, Don't waste your money on "The Club".

Congrats on the new Lade. I hope you didn't take to much of a loss.


dont waist money on the club? how is the club that goes from the steering wheel to the brake any better than the club? To defeate the club you can cut the steering wheel. To defeat the club you are talking about attached to the brake you can also just cut the steering wheel.

DenverEXT
11-01-05, 11:41 AM
I've never seen the brake to steering wheel club. There's one that goes under the brake pedal to the floor which is suppose to be a lot harder (but not impossible) to remove.

mikeee
11-01-05, 11:54 AM
I think people should focus on preventing a thief from entering your vehicle. Clubs and all that other steering wheel locking mechanisms are worthless. For the same price you can have your car disabled when started without a key.

Body work on the outside is cheaper than replacing interior parts. Id rather have to fix a dented up door at the handle where someone tried to break in, than having to replace a chopped up steering wheel.

TheMDbandit
11-01-05, 12:43 PM
I think people should focus on preventing a thief from entering your vehicle. Clubs and all that other steering wheel locking mechanisms are worthless. For the same price you can have your car disabled when started without a key.

Body work on the outside is cheaper than replacing interior parts. Id rather have to fix a dented up door at the handle where someone tried to break in, than having to replace a chopped up steering wheel.


Theres no way u can prevent a theif from breaking in. All they have to do is smash a window and hop thru the window without opening the door. If you dont have a shock sensor or something they can still all your stuff without opening the door or setting any alarm off. So clubs and other mechanisms are way more than worthless. The more stuff u have on your truck is the longer it takes for a theif to steal it,which increases the chances on them giving up to steal it. A theif will not spend 30minutes trying to steal your trucks. THey want to get in and get out FAST. So clubs n stuff lets thieves do it quick

brett79
11-01-05, 01:01 PM
Keep a very large snake up front. Python, Anaconda, Boa........

mikeee
11-01-05, 02:16 PM
Theres no way u can prevent a theif from breaking in. All they have to do is smash a window and hop thru the window without opening the door. If you dont have a shock sensor or something they can still all your stuff without opening the door or setting any alarm off. So clubs and other mechanisms are way more than worthless. The more stuff u have on your truck is the longer it takes for a theif to steal it,which increases the chances on them giving up to steal it. A theif will not spend 30minutes trying to steal your trucks. THey want to get in and get out FAST. So clubs n stuff lets thieves do it quick
OF COURSE there is. I challenge ANYONE to enter my car. Even through the window ;)

brett79
11-01-05, 02:21 PM
OF COURSE there is. I challenge ANYONE to enter my car. Even through the window ;)

Where do you live?



South Africans are serious about protecting their cars, and the law favors them. In RSA, it's legal- and even common- to equip your wheels with "theft deterrent" devices like tear gas spray, electric shock systems, even lethal poison gas, acid showers and flamethrowers.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_155_26/ai_80616527

blingblingcv
11-01-05, 06:52 PM
Keep a very large snake up front. Python, Anaconda, Boa........

LOL

BIG SPENDER
11-03-05, 10:10 AM
I agree with Mikee, body work is cheaper to repair and cost less. I looked around for a product that you mentioned and came up with a product called the Jimmi' Jammer. I found a place near by Woodbridge that sell this product. Either this weekend I'm going to give them a call or early next week, it doesn't look to be that expensive, doe's any one have a similar product and what is involved to install this?

jrs05caddyext
11-03-05, 10:11 AM
I agree with Mikee, body work is cheaper to repair and cost less. I looked around for a product that you mentioned and came up with a product called the Jimmi' Jammer. I found a place near by Woodbridge that sell this product. Either this weekend I'm going to give them a call or early next week, it doesn't look to be that expensive, doe's any one have a similar product and what is involved to install this?

http://www.lildevilmotorsports.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=112&products_id=4295