View Full Version : About these reputation thingies... ben72227 10-23-05, 03:00 AM Now, I know that these are supposed to be used for people who troll and for post whores to weed out the bad people, but it seems that some people are exploiting this feature to give negative points to people they just DONT LIKE. And I know that this is happening because I'll get the red ones but they won't leave ANY type of explanation. Usually with the green ones I'll get, "great job" or "here's some love for ya:p", but is is true that we could really get banned because of these things? Because I don't want to get banned because of the simple fact that some people don't like me. That seems ridiculous... It is ridiculous and I'm getting hit everyday too. The cowards won't leave a comment either. There are people giving negative points even for decent posts or threads, and you could call THAT abuse of the system. I think eventually it will even out for eveyone...
...said the post whore... What are there reputation things you are talking about? Are they the bars under your post count? What do they do and can you possibly be banned if you rating gets too low? What are there reputation things you are talking about? Are they the bars under your post count? What do they do and can you possibly be banned if you rating gets too low?
You need to go look in the Feedback section. There are numerous threads on this and a lot of people asking the same questions.....check it out. It works out in the end, especially if more people like you than hate you. Doesnt take much for negatives to go positive. DAMN!!! Now thats what I call a fast reply. Thanks for the info, I will check it out. davesdeville 10-23-05, 05:58 AM On a similar note...
If you're going to post a negative for someone... MAN UP and leave your name in the comments instead of being some anonymous p*ssy. I've left one negative feedback now and I left my initials. RobertCTS 10-23-05, 08:40 AM On a similar note...
If you're going to post a negative for someone... MAN UP and leave your name in the comments instead of being some anonymous p*ssy. I've left one negative feedback now and I left my initials.
I agree with you davesville but you know why they don't because bad boys will get even. SilverCTS 10-23-05, 10:06 AM People are certainly going to be more polite because of this new feature. Randy_W 10-23-05, 10:37 AM If someone is banned over this meaningless drivel, they probably won't miss being involved in that kind of political BS. If it required ID of the person leaving it, it would mean something, since it doesn't, it means Jack! Frankly, I couldn't care less if my little block turns purple!:thumbsup: Lord Cadillac 10-23-05, 11:18 AM Don't worry, it takes quite a bit to get banned.. And yes, in the end, it'll all work out. As long as you're not receiving all negative rep, you'll be fine. Furthermore, I MAY be able to get the system to show exactly who's giving you reputation points... HotRodSaint 10-23-05, 11:45 AM Because I don't want to get banned because of the simple fact that some people don't like me. That seems ridiculous...
I was banned the first night because some people with already VERY high reps, don't like me. So yes, it is ridiculous!!
I hope this place doesn't become like High School where popularity is more important that substance.
For me, rather than turn this into another tit for tat battle, I've decided to spread my postive posts outside the forum on those who rarely venture into the lounge.
It's mostly on the Fleetwood guys because they post everyday too. And most of their posts are of helpful information. Yet, they just don't seem to be getting any luv for it!!
Negatives are reserved by me for what I deem to be posts worthy of such a score. But my negatives will never out number my positives, and they may never be used at all. And they won't be used in a retalitory manner.
Case in point, a certain member has been hitting me with negative hits in another thread, Reputation (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1935). I have a very, very, VERY good idea who it is. No it's not anyone who has posted in that thread.
With a visit everyday, but a post count of only .57 per day, one can conclude that he's not here to participate but to enact his revenge.
Even with a 99.9% certainity of who it is, he has recieved no negative hits from me. Even though many of his past threads have truly deserved it!! I don't have the desire to play that type of game with anyone.
So act positive, be positive, post positive and don't make any posts that could inflame anyone, and you won't get a negative hit by me!! HotRodSaint 10-23-05, 11:52 AM Furthermore, I MAY be able to get the system to show exactly who's giving you reputation points...
If people want to sign their bathroom wall comments, they should have that choice.
But I think it could also cease the flow of positive points to some people.
It's unfortunate, but unfortunatley it's true. HotRodSaint 10-23-05, 11:56 AM On a similar note...
If you're going to post a negative for someone... MAN UP and leave your name in the comments instead of being some anonymous p*ssy. I've left one negative feedback now and I left my initials.
I'm going to leave you negative today, because you didn't send ME that signed negative. I would have broadcast to the world as a manly, mans post!! ;)
But seriously, there is now a powerful cartel who can ruin your rep with just a few PM's. So I wouldn't fault anyone not leaving their sig right now, positive or negative...:ill:
And I was joking about sending you a neg, it'll be a pos when it's available. :thumbsup: HotRodSaint 10-23-05, 11:59 AM People are certainly going to be more polite because of this new feature.
Yes sir, we certainly are!! So can we check your oil while you are filling out our customer service survey?? :duck: HotRodSaint 10-23-05, 12:21 PM Also here's a good thing that has happened as a result of people rating threads. We have more power than we think!!
I am got a few PM's from people calling for a truce.
Now the truce wasn't really needed, as I wasn't involved in a war with eaither of them.
Evidently their comments to me got dinged negative by others, and they mistakenly thought it was me. (I'm pretty sure you can't score a post more than once anyway, although I've never tried.)
So the good news is this, the higher ones rep gets, the more they care about pushing it even higher!!! BUT, they can't go higher if they get negatives!!
So you might think your lowly 1 bar status doesn't effect those high and mighty multi-bars. But you are wrong. In their contest to be the top dog, it does effect them!!
So now is the time for the unloved masses to get these people inline, especially while they seem to really, really care about their score right now!! airbalancer 10-23-05, 12:27 PM So now is the time for the unloved masses to get these people inline, especially while they seem to really, really care about their score right now!!
The only scoring that I worry about about, is with my wife as it puts me on :cloud9: :histeric: RobertCTS 10-23-05, 12:37 PM I would feel bad if I was in the RED. I really like Cadillac Owner's Forum. A lot of cool Guys. I think you think twice before flaming as now you know it comes back at you!! HotRodSaint 10-23-05, 12:49 PM I would feel bad if I was in the RED.
It depends on why you are in the RED. I knew why I was I had the 4 red bars, and I was not feeling bad about it all. I was actually kinda liking being known as infamous!! ben72227 10-23-05, 02:40 PM I'm still in the Red, and its because someone keeps sending me unsigned negative points, over topics that don't even warrant negative points. I got a negative point for the Audi topic i started. What?! You really need to put the names on there if you can Sa...I mean, Administrator:lildevil: On a similar note...
If you're going to post a negative for someone... MAN UP and leave your name in the comments instead of being some anonymous p*ssy. I've left one negative feedback now and I left my initials.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RobertCTS 10-23-05, 02:54 PM I was not feeling bad about it all. I was actually kinda liking being known as infamous!!
No you weren't Saint,
Nobody like having peers hitting on you. I could see your glee when you're back in the green.:) ben72227 10-23-05, 02:56 PM Personally, I think these things are doing more harm than good. I've heard alot of other members are scared to go post in the lounge for fear of getting negative points by the "cartel" that runs the lounge as an EXCLUSIVE club:mad:. And many people are getting negative points for no reason other than they aren't liked. I think if we continue with this points system, Mr. Administrator needs to make it so that we can see who left us points, so we can find out who's exploiting the system to get back at people... I was banned the first night because some people with already VERY high reps, don't like me. So yes, it is ridiculous!!
I'm curious how it was possible for ANYONE to have a "Very high rep point" on the first day?? People can only give a point to the same person once in a 24 hour period. No one had high rep points on the first day. It would have been more plausable (based on how the power system works) for MANY people to give one person bad points on the first day, instead of one or two with "very high rep points" on the very first day. That's how it would have "gone down" because no one had such power on the first day of this system. So now is the time for the unloved masses to get these people inline, especially while they seem to really, really care about their score right now!!
It appears that you are promoting some sort of Revolution or Rebellion on this forum simply because some people may have MORE rep points than you or others. Explain.
If there is someone getting out of line they DO deserve bad rep points, but they DO NOT deserve bad rep points for simply having a high post count!:tisk:
You are also assuming that people care about their high score when in fact it is others who give it, and it can be taken away at any time. Lord Cadillac 10-23-05, 03:04 PM You guys are getting hilarious.. Forget about the "Cartel". There are a few people here who are worried about this reputation system because they know they're going to have trouble as a result. These people want to sabotage the system and they want you to help them.
Here's one of those old Italian sayings that everyone should think about.
Don't believe anything you hear; only believe half of what you see.
Take my advice...
Type in www.cadillacowners.com, talk about Cadillacs, then go somewhere else.. You can't get into any trouble like that.. Stop wasting your time talking about the Reputation System. This isn't wineaboutmyreputation.com... HotRodSaint 10-23-05, 03:16 PM I'm curious how it was possible for ANYONE to have a "Very high rep point" on the first day?? People can only give a point to the same person once in a 24 hour period. No one had a high rep points on the first day.
I'm curious too? :hmm:
Your statement that you can't give multiple points to someone in one day is wrong. You can, but you must first give others some points in between.
I haven't figured out how many people need to be hit in between, but I think it's something like 2 or 3. Not much more than that.
I also haven't figured out how many hits per day you get, and if they can be carried over into the next 24 hour period.
And on the first day, there were a couple of 3 green bars at the top and one person at the bottom with 2 red bars. The next day it was a couple of 5 bars at the top, and one at the bottom with 4. And many people are getting negative points for no reason other than they aren't liked. I think if we continue with this points system, Mr. Administrator needs to make it so that we can see who left us points, so we can find out who's exploiting the system to get back at people...
This is a good idea. If someone gave you bad points, we should be able to see who gave them and WHY, and then have an option to send it to a Mod for removal of those bad points, or deletion. Of course this would probably cause too much work for the mods..... ben72227 10-23-05, 03:20 PM I of course, am still in the red, so everyone thinks i'm an evil person. Ralph, come on, get the "cartel" to help me out here.:sneaky: I of course, am still in the red, so everyone thinks i'm an evil person. Ralph, come on, get the "cartel" to help me out here.:sneaky:
LOL, I'll give you points for being funny and friendly, and fun to talk to in the car threads in the lounge,:highfive: but not for the "Cartel" thingy.:bigroll:
When I can dude. HotRodSaint 10-23-05, 03:24 PM It would have been more plausable (based on how the power system works) for MANY people to give one person bad points on the first day, instead of one or two with "very high rep points" on the very first day. That's how it would have "gone down" because no one had such power on the first day of this system.
Yes, in your hypothetical scenario with people who hadn't yet figured out the system, this would have been the 'plausible' manner in which the first day had 'gone down'.
And in this hypothetical scenario that you paint, after they PM'd each other to hit a certain individual, they then would have hit each other boosting their own rep points in the process.
Hypothetically speaking of course... Yes, in your hypothetical scenario with people who hadn't yet figured out the system, this would have been the 'plausible' manner in which the first day had 'gone down'.
And in this hypothetical scenario that you paint, after they PM'd each other to hit a certain individual, they then would have hit each other boosting their own rep points in the process.
Hypothetically speaking of course...
That's exactly what I said in response to you.........saying that it WAS more plausable that MORE people hit someone with neg points, RATHER than just a few people....THAT's the way it would have worked especially on the first day because again, no one had such power with more green bars.... HotRodSaint 10-23-05, 03:34 PM It appears that you are promoting some sort of Revolution or Rebellion on this forum simply because some people may have MORE rep points than you or others. Explain.
I'm saying, hypothetically, that if two people publically show up in a thread and :highfive: each other over giving negative hits, then those two people could get hit by several lower level people and be brought down a notch or two.
That's all I'm saying...
Since we've already witnessed the reaction of two 'high' members getting a negative response, I know that in this hypothetical situation would be effective.
In other words, low people have power too!! So everyone needs to stop screwing around now! :yup: HotRodSaint 10-23-05, 03:38 PM That's exactly what I said in response to you.........saying that it WAS more plausable that MORE people hit someone with neg points, RATHER than just a few people....THAT's the way it would have worked especially on the first day because again, no one had such power with more green bars....
I'm glad you didn't refute the PMing each other part of this plausible situation, as that was an integral part of my agreeing to it's plausibility. Especially since the members were not yet aware that you could make multiple posts to one person in the same day. :shhh:
Had the members understood the system better, it would have been more beneficial and much more damaging, to boost each others scores the first day, as happened to a certain extent, and then hit their target the next. Keeping in mind that it is still a voting system based on democracy. People are free to vote however they want, based on what they see, agree with, or don't like, etc. All the pm'ing in the world may not change that in the end...
and as far as I can figure, you cannot vote on someone twice in a 24 hour period. HotRodSaint 10-23-05, 03:48 PM This is a good idea. If someone gave you bad points, we should be able to see who gave them and WHY, and then have an option to send it to a Mod for removal of those bad points, or deletion. Of course this would probably cause too much work for the mods.....
What would be a good idea, is if people who take issue with a post would address it in the post and not score people over it.
Under this 'popularity' system, I prefer not to know who's giving me negative hits as it WILL effect the way I read and score their posts.
BUT, if an open policy is instituted, I want to see the signatures from day one!!! :lildevil: HotRodSaint 10-23-05, 03:50 PM and as far as I can figure, you cannot vote on someone twice in a 24 hour period.
Do you want me to send you two negatives tonight, signed sealed and delivered? :lildevil:
I only suggest negatives, because they will be easier for you to spot!! :p HotRodSaint 10-23-05, 03:53 PM Keeping in mind that it is still a voting system based on democracy. People are free to vote however they want, based on what they see, agree with, or don't like, etc. All the pm'ing in the world may not change that in the end...
I agree, a "negative campaign" works very well in a democracy!! :duck: Do you want me to send you two negatives tonight, signed sealed and delivered? :lildevil:
I only suggest negatives, because they will be easier for you to spot!! :p
I have noticed (like you mentioned) that you are able to vote on a couple or few people, then hours later able to do a few more. But I was not able myself to hit someone TWICE in a 24 hour period.
Thanks for the tip.:sneaky: HotRodSaint 10-23-05, 04:26 PM Thanks for the tip.:sneaky:
Use the force wisely!! :devil: HotRodSaint 10-23-05, 04:55 PM There are a few people here who are worried about this reputation system because they know they're going to have trouble as a result. These people want to sabotage the system and they want you to help them.
Sabotage...
I'd hit you with a negative, but you'd erase it!! :histeric: Don't worry, it takes quite a bit to get banned.. And yes, in the end, it'll all work out. As long as you're not receiving all negative rep, you'll be fine. Furthermore, I MAY be able to get the system to show exactly who's giving you reputation points...I think identification will go a long way to settling this rep business down. Anonymous feedback positive or negative is of little value. Identification of rep givers maintains a level of accountability which is what this sytem is suposed to provide right?
If you want to tell someone you like or don't like what they've done or said I belive you should do it to their face like a man or woman, it might mean something that way. I view unsigned notes, especially negative ones with a certain level of disrespect or contemp. I think if you want to say something to someone you should own up to it. airbalancer 10-23-05, 05:47 PM Sabotage...
I'd hit you with a negative, but you'd erase it!! :histeric:
Lets all get Sal when he has to leave his home and wouldn't be online because of Hurricane Wilma which should be tonite http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/211158.shtml?3day?large
J/K
I hope everyone will be OK tonite LittleB 10-23-05, 06:11 PM Oh brother :bigroll: :bonkers: :nono: can't we all just get along?! Rep is editable by administrators, so I'll be in a bunker monitoring Sal's, you wont take him down.... :p Randy_W 10-23-05, 07:52 PM This is funny as hell, I've gotten 5 hits from this thread, three positive, two negative. I guess it all depends on perspective.:histeric:
I will have no further comment on this mess. If I'm banned, I'll just stick with Chevy Talk, Malibu Racing, The Grand Am Registry, etc...:yup: RobertCTS 10-24-05, 05:24 AM It appears the rep scales are shut down:hmm: RobertCTS 10-26-05, 07:31 AM When you go to the UserCP and look at the unsigned comments, how do you know if its a negative or positive points?:hmm: HotRodSaint 10-26-05, 10:08 AM When you go to the UserCP and look at the unsigned comments, how do you know if its a negative or positive points?:hmm:
There's a green or red box. If it's grey, then the person couldn't effect you either way. RobertCTS 10-26-05, 10:11 AM There's a green or red box. If it's grey, then the person couldn't effect you either way.
HRS,
Are you talking about the small colored box to the right of the comment? I thought that was there Reputation. Not so?
Edit: Just looked again. Mine are green and grey. Grey means they can give no points. But that's not good or bad is it? airbalancer 10-26-05, 05:04 PM HRS,
Are you talking about the small colored box to the right of the comment? I thought that was there Reputation. Not so?
Edit: Just looked again. Mine are green and grey. Grey means they can give no points. But that's not good or bad is it?
These things are to much work for me HotRodSaint 10-26-05, 05:42 PM Edit: Just looked again. Mine are green and grey. Grey means they can give no points. But that's not good or bad is it?
You mean mine didn't show up as red? I must have made a wrong selection! :duck:
(We can still make jokes without getting dinged, right? :suspense: )
A green box means they gave you a positive and a red box means they gave you a negative.
A grey box means they don't have enough points to give you anything, but it could have been intended to be either a negative or positive. RobertCTS 10-26-05, 06:22 PM You mean mine didn't show up as red? I must have made a wrong selection! :duck:
(We can still make jokes without getting dinged, right? :suspense: )
A green box means they gave you a positive and a red box means they gave you a negative.
A grey box means they don't have enough points to give you anything, but it could have been intended to be either a negative or positive.
Thanks HRS. I upset a couple of Jerks in the CTS forum recently. I'm sure it's them, "Getting even". Thanks HRS. I upset a couple of Jerks in the CTS forum recently. I'm sure it's them, "Getting even".
Well, I got a negative like this: Somebody asked me a specific question. I gave that person the answer and he gave me a bad rep because "nobody cares" Is that stupid or what? Why did he ask me in the first place? Heh.
I have to recognize he did sign his negative, though. That is something everybody should have the integrity to do. | |