View Full Version : The Power Is In Your Hands...


Lord Cadillac
10-17-05, 03:55 PM
It's in all your hands now, guys.. The "reputation" system has been enabled and you can ban one another into oblivion. When a member gets enough bad reputation, they automatically fall into a banned usergroup. This means that if enough people think the member is a problem, that member will go away. It may take some tweaking as time goes along but the system is in place.

Members can see what reputation you give them in their control panel. I suggest everyone be on their best behavior from now on...

DISCUSS...

DDS rollin a CTS
10-17-05, 04:03 PM
How does one "score" another member? How much influence will one person be able to have on another user? Just want to make sure one member with a beef against another wont be able to harm them too much without support from others.

Lord Cadillac
10-17-05, 04:06 PM
That's all taken into account. It's hard to explain but the system is very intelligent..

Kev
10-17-05, 04:32 PM
Thanks Sal. I hope it works out well.

addison_ii
10-17-05, 05:26 PM
Thanks, hopefully behaviors change for the best and no one gets banned.

MACTICULOUS
10-17-05, 06:22 PM
I really havn't seen anyone get out of hand but I guess this will help keep people in check if they start to get out of line. Good idea. -Mac

mccombie_5
10-17-05, 06:42 PM
It used to get quite heated in the CI forum (good riddance) and it did last nighti n the Lounge, it happens, and that would be one of those cases like last night

DopeStar 156
10-17-05, 07:33 PM
*Applause*

Boombotz
10-17-05, 08:27 PM
Great idea!!!

SpeedyArizona
10-17-05, 09:00 PM
you can ban one another into oblivion

Hmm.... Oblivion :D?

davesdeville
10-18-05, 03:28 AM
How long do they go away? Temporary vacation or banned camp?

Katshot
10-18-05, 09:20 AM
How does one "score" another member? How much influence will one person be able to have on another user? Just want to make sure one member with a beef against another wont be able to harm them too much without support from others.

Okay, the question was asked, so what's the answer? How do you use the system?

Lord Cadillac
10-18-05, 10:08 AM
If I'm not mistaken, they're banned until (and if) that decision is reversed...

The system covers a lot of bases. The longer you're here, the more powerful your reputation-altering power is. The more posts you have, the higher as well. It doesn't make a WHOLE lot of difference as I see it now, but it makes somewhat of a difference.

A member with a lot of positive reputation has more rep-altering power than a member with negative reputation. The better rep you have, the more impact you have on another member's reputation...

Katshot
10-18-05, 10:54 AM
So how do you use the system?!

RobertCTS
10-18-05, 11:02 AM
Is there a way that you can look at your score and see how you're doing? You can also have a lot of posts but contribute little to the forum interests, like "yep,me two"and sometimes nothing but a silly icon.

Brett
10-18-05, 11:07 AM
kevin, click the scale at the top of any post

Lord Cadillac
10-18-05, 12:00 PM
You can see a member's score by hovering over the green gem (box) below the post count. Green is positive; red is negative...

DaveSmed
10-18-05, 02:30 PM
...And to keep track of your reputation, go into your User CP, and it's right under the list of your subscribed threads.

HotRodSaint
10-18-05, 02:38 PM
Am I the only person who started off with feedback from 2003? :hmm:

I cry foul!! :cynic:

Lord Cadillac
10-18-05, 02:46 PM
No, the reputation system works the same for everyone. Reputation never goes away...

LittleB
10-18-05, 03:08 PM
What does the greyish color mean? (not red and not green?) Also, what does your total score # mean?

Ralph
10-18-05, 03:09 PM
Is it possible to see total points for everyone at one time?

HotRodSaint
10-18-05, 03:17 PM
No, the reputation system works the same for everyone. Reputation never goes away...

When was the system implemented?

Because if I have reputation from 2003, and the system was off line for 2 years with no activity and no one using it, shouldn't it have been reset? :hmm:

RobertCTS
10-18-05, 03:22 PM
...And to keep track of your reputation, go into your User CP, and it's right under the list of your subscribed threads.

At the bottom of the subscribed threads? I didn't find anything:hmm:

Why do some have two colored boxes and some only one?

How do you give a member a negative mark? This is an interesting concept Sal. Thanks.
Bob

Ralph
10-18-05, 03:28 PM
At the bottom of the subscribed threads? I didn't find anything:hmm:

Rob, you might have to click the little arrows at the bottom right to make the box appear, etc.

Lord Cadillac
10-18-05, 03:30 PM
Grey boxes should mean there's been no reputation given yet.

I don't know of a way to see total points (this is still new to me and I haven't learned everything about it yet).

The system was originally implemented when we upgraded to vBulletin 3 in 2003. It was turned off to save bandwidth. Since we have a more powerful server now, it's not an issue. Whatever reputation people racked-up beforehand is from before it was turned-off...

Two boxes is just an indication of a lot of reputation given. People will eventually have more than two boxes as well.. I may be installing updates which make things even more interesting (different colors and images according to level). If this takes off and people use it enough, I'll look into that...

RobertCTS
10-18-05, 03:39 PM
Grey boxes should mean there's been no reputation given yet.

I don't know of a way to see total points (this is still new to me and I haven't learned everything about it yet).

The system was originally implemented when we upgraded to vBulletin 3 in 2003. It was turned off to save bandwidth. Since we have a more powerful server now, it's not an issue. Whatever reputation people racked-up beforehand is from before it was turned-off...

Two boxes is just an indication of a lot of reputation given. People will eventually have more than two boxes as well.. I may be installing updates which make things even more interesting (different colors and images according to level). If this takes off and people use it enough, I'll look into that...

I'm confused again. I have 6700 posts and one green box.. Little B has 650 posts and two green boxes.

I did find my score of 30 points on 6700 posts. How does that equate??

Ralph
10-18-05, 03:43 PM
I'm confused again. I have 6700 posts and one green box.. Little B has 650 posts and two green boxes.

Maybe you're not as pretty as her?:p

Lord Cadillac
10-18-05, 03:54 PM
Reputation is effected VERY little by posts. It does have an effect, but not a whole lot.. Same goes for time registered.. Your score is mostly affected by the rep people give you...

A member won't automatically have a good reputation because he/she posts a lot or has been here for a long time. Reputation is determined, 95%, by your own actions...

RobertCTS
10-18-05, 03:56 PM
Maybe you're not as pretty as her?:p

I guess I need breast implants to get two green boxes? Ralph you have two green boxes but you have the mother load of posts!

RobertCTS
10-18-05, 04:02 PM
Reputation is effected VERY little by posts. It does have an effect, but not a whole lot.. Same goes for time registered.. Your score is mostly affected by the rep people give you...

A member won't automatically have a good reputation because he/she posts a lot or has been here for a long time. Reputation is determined, 95%, by your own actions...

Who gives you that score? The administator and/ or the members? I've never given anybody a score. Never knew I could. I don't think I've behaved badly. Seems like I should have 100%. I probably don't. So how do I learn about myself in order to improve? This could be a very good tool.

Can I give myself go scores?:p

Lord Cadillac
10-18-05, 04:12 PM
Anyone who clicks the "scale" in one of your posts can either "approve" or "disapprove" of what you said. People with bad or no reputation cannot alter your score/rating. People with good reputation DO have this ability. The higher (better) the reputation, the MORE they can ALTER your score. If you GET a bad reputation, you lose the ability to GIVE reputation.

I don't know what your score is but if it's low, I'm sure it's simply because nobody has (or very few people have) given you reputation. A score of zero is simply EVEN. Meaning either nobody has given you reputation or people have equally given you good and bad...

RobertCTS
10-18-05, 04:42 PM
[quote=Administrator]Anyone who clicks the "scale" in one of your posts can either "approve" or "disapprove" of what you said. quote]

Sal,
I don't see any opportunity in a post to "Click on a scale". I just tried to do this and all I see is the green box..but that doesn't do anything. I need more prompting. No one else is asking these questions. makes me feel like a dunce!

Kev
10-18-05, 04:49 PM
[quote=Administrator]Anyone who clicks the "scale" in one of your posts can either "approve" or "disapprove" of what you said. quote]

Sal,
I don't see any opportunity in a post to "Click on a scale". I just tried to do this and all I see is the green box..but that doesn't do anything. I need more prompting. No one else is asking these questions. makes me feel like a dunce!On the top of each post there is a colored bar (mine is dark blue) that shows the time and date on the left, on the right side, post #, scale icon and a read and white triangle icon. The scale icon allows you to give good or bad reputation and add a comment if you like. The red and white triangle is for reporting a bad post.

Hope that answers your question.

RobertCTS
10-18-05, 04:53 PM
[quote=RobertCTS]On the top of each post there is a colored bar (mine is dark blue) that shows the time and date on the left, on the right side, post #, scale icon and a read and white triangle icon. The scale icon allows you to give good or bad reputation and add a comment if you like. The red and white triangle is for reporting a bad post.Hope that answers your question.

Kev,
Hey it did help! I gave you a positive and a comment. Where do you go to see your score/ comments?

Kev
10-18-05, 06:05 PM
Kev,
Hey it did help! I gave you a positive and a comment. Where do you go to see your score/ comments?Thanks! To see your score you have to go to your User CP (user control panel) your score should show up lower right. :thumbsup:

RobertCTS
10-18-05, 06:17 PM
Thanks! To see your score you have to go to your User CP (user control panel) your score should show up lower right. :thumbsup:

Kev,
Will the comments also show? I left you one if you want to check.

HotRodSaint
10-18-05, 06:19 PM
Thanks! To see your score you have to go to your User CP (user control panel) your score should show up lower right. :thumbsup:

Or you can click on your own scales and accomplish the samething.

Kev
10-18-05, 06:20 PM
Kev,
Will the comments also show? I left you one if you want to check.Yes they do, thank you very much.

HotRodSaint
10-18-05, 06:21 PM
Kev,
Will the comments also show? I left you one if you want to check.

Yes, but only the most recent for some reason.

Kev
10-18-05, 06:22 PM
I would give you a rep and a comment but I've used up all my rep giving for the day! I guess there is a limmit though I'm not sure what it is, 6 maybe in a day?

RobertCTS
10-18-05, 06:25 PM
Or you can click on your own scales and accomplish the samething.

Saint,
Just gave you an A+:thumbsup: But I don't see the comments?

HotRodSaint
10-18-05, 06:30 PM
Saint,
Just gave you an A+:thumbsup: But I don't see the comments?

You do have to use the user CP to read any comments.

For some reason you can't see anything but the last 5 or so.

Lord Cadillac
10-18-05, 06:38 PM
I don't have the ability to specify the number of comments that can be read in the user CP. If I did, I'd increase it to atleast a bit more than 5... I'm sure it's a hardcoded limit for database queries...

Kev
10-18-05, 06:55 PM
I'm showing 7 in mine right now. Maybe some others who have that or more might chime in?

SpeedyArizona
10-18-05, 06:56 PM
I gave Kev a positive comment, thanks for the information! I still want to ban each other into oblivion ;)!

Lord Cadillac
10-18-05, 06:56 PM
I'm not sure if there's really any limit at all, to be honest.. Maybe it's 7 or 10.. Whatever it is, it is.. I suppose whoever has the highest can report it here and we'll know...

Kev
10-18-05, 06:58 PM
I gave Kev a positive comment, thanks for the information! I still want to ban each other into oblivion ;)!Thanks, I'm sure I can use all the help I can get! :yup:

HotRodSaint
10-18-05, 08:18 PM
I'm not sure if there's really any limit at all, to be honest.. Maybe it's 7 or 10.. Whatever it is, it is.. I suppose whoever has the highest can report it here and we'll know...

Mine is at 10 now, did you tweek it?

Lord Cadillac
10-18-05, 09:55 PM
Nope. I don't know of any way to change this number. I wonder if only the new ones are showing up since the upgrade...

RobertCTS
10-19-05, 10:55 AM
I still want to ban each other into oblivion ;)!

How do you know when you're there? What does oblivion look like??:D

I've got most of it figured out now. I never knew this concept existed until know. I think I like it.

I only have one comment listed and it's from my buddy Kev:thumbsup: That means its my only comment?

I guess you can't look at other member's scores?:hmm:

D148L0
10-19-05, 12:59 PM
Hah. Hahaha.
HAHAHAHAHAH....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!:lildevil:

RobertCTS
10-19-05, 01:19 PM
Hah. Hahaha.
HAHAHAHAHAH....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!:lildevil:

What does that mean? your description of oblivion?:hmm:
Or the sound of a Volant?

RobertCTS
10-19-05, 03:34 PM
Yes, but only the most recent for some reason.

I discovered my comments. Five of them.:p Nice comments but how do you know who said them? Thanks for all the help guys!

Boombotz
10-19-05, 04:43 PM
I gave you a comment and signed it. HAHAHAHA! Now you know who gave it to you.:bouncy:

RobertCTS
10-19-05, 04:57 PM
I gave you a comment and signed it. HAHAHAHA! Now you know who gave it to you.:bouncy:

GEEZ.. YOU GOT 3 GREEN BOXES!! I'M FALLIN' BEHIND:eek:
It says you are a jewel in the rough boombotz! I'm only "Almost Famous"

Boombotz
10-19-05, 05:01 PM
I'll give you more rep points tomorrow. Can only do it once a day for somebody.:p

Ralph
10-20-05, 05:27 AM
Question.....To the left of the comments, there are colors. I'm just curious what they mean exactly because in one example I know someone sent positive points, but the color of the box to the left was grey. I thought that green boxes by the comment meant they gave positive points?? Or is the box color an overall rating or something??

RobertCTS
10-20-05, 06:30 AM
Question.....To the left of the comments, there are colors. I'm just curious what they mean exactly because in one example I know someone sent positive points, but the color of the box to the left was grey. I thought that green boxes by the comment meant they gave positive points?? Or is the box color an overall rating or something??

Ralph, You have a gaggle of green boxes. I think that's somewhere near heaven!:p Good job!:thumbsup:

Ralph
10-20-05, 06:33 AM
Ralph, You have a gaggle of green boxes. I think that's somewhere near heaven!:p Good job!:thumbsup:

Ok, ok, you are on my list now for getting points. Return the favor.;)

edit, now I have to wait before I can give them again, but look for my signature in your comments tomorrow.:D

Boombotz
10-20-05, 08:30 AM
I'll give you more rep points tomorrow. Can only do it once a day for somebody.:p

Gave you some more RobertCTS and Ralph.

P.s. Gave some to Kev too.

Brett
10-20-05, 08:45 AM
the gray boxes are rep from people who have no rep power. they are neutral basically. You need to build up some rep for yourself before you are able to hand it out.

DDS rollin a CTS
10-20-05, 01:49 PM
hey guys, thanks to everyone for helping figure this out. I want to work on the "rep" anyone who hits me with an "approve" and signs the comment, I'll get you back!

RobertCTS
10-20-05, 02:05 PM
hey guys, thanks to everyone for helping figure this out. I want to work on the "rep" anyone who hits me with an "approve" and signs the comment, I'll get you back!

Hey Doc,
I just gave you 5 negatives!!:annoyed:


Just kidding I already gave you a hit!
Bob

Boombotz
10-20-05, 03:43 PM
hey guys, thanks to everyone for helping figure this out. I want to work on the "rep" anyone who hits me with an "approve" and signs the comment, I'll get you back!

You will get hit when I have the power back. It says I need to wait I have given to many already. What can I say I try to spread the joy around.

AmesCTS-V
10-20-05, 03:44 PM
Sal I love what you have done on these forums, but this is a bad idea.

This system never works well. After the newness is done people don't think to up someone for good posts, but everyone remembers to ding someone for bad posts.

Just looking at join date and # posts is a better indicator. Plus if you read the site regularly you know who's who.

Heck Robert and I argue CAI stuff all the time, but I'd never consider giving him negative feedback just because I don't agree with him.

It's all just very high school, who's the popular kid. Hey maybe supporting members should be able to buy points.

Lord Cadillac
10-20-05, 03:51 PM
The system will be improved over time. We're not going to have it so that a member or two can decide who stays onboard and who doesn't. If a member gets a significant amount of bad rep from members, they'll get a warning. If they continue to get a significant amount of bad rep, and they get banned, then I don't see the problem.

If people forget to start handing out good rep, then the playing field will be leveled. People without very good reputations wont have much of an impact (if any at all) on other people's rep score.

Boombotz
10-20-05, 03:55 PM
Sal I love what you have done on these forums, but this is a bad idea.

This system never works well. After the newness is done people don't think to up someone for good posts, but everyone remembers to ding someone for bad posts.

Just looking at join date and # posts is a better indicator. Plus if you read the site regularly you know who's who.

Heck Robert and I argue CAI stuff all the time, but I'd never consider giving him negative feedback just because I don't agree with him.

It's all just very high school, who's the popular kid. Hey maybe supporting members should be able to buy points.

You are most likley right that it will die out, but for now it is fun. Something new. When I get some power I'll give you points for your post and because your a supporting member. :D

Vrocks
10-20-05, 03:56 PM
I like how you earn reputation points for posts, how long you've been around, and if you are / aren't a supporting member. The people who can't get along with the others will leave on their own, or the mods ban them.

What if a supporting member is rated poorly by the same one or two people ( that don't even support the forum ) and gets knocked out of the forum? Can a mod bring you back?

Lord Cadillac
10-20-05, 04:00 PM
Members who are banned due to excessive complaints (bad rep) can be brought-back to regular status by an administrator or by simply getting good rep from other members...

AmesCTS-V
10-20-05, 04:01 PM
Supporting Members shouldn't be getting banned by anyone but a mod. That's a problem in my book.

It's a VB system, unless you are hacking it the only improvements you can do is to tweek the numbers.

On senerio where it won't be a level field is that we have a lot of sub-cultures on this site. Maybe the SRX guys use the heck out of this system and the V guys don't. Now a V guy goes to the SRX forum and says V's rule and SRX's suck. Boom the guy has a ton of negatives and no good from the V guys since they don't use it. There's no way to account for that.

I run some VB site's, am a mod on others, and frequent others. I've yet to see this system go over well.

In the end what advantage does this system give?

Boombotz
10-20-05, 04:03 PM
Sal if someone has 2 red squares. The scale disappears is that being adjusted to. I mean there is no way for them to come back if there is no scale for someone to rate them.

D148L0
10-20-05, 04:16 PM
I agree with everything Ames has said.

I think, however, that Sal and Brett will correct the faults that come along.

Lord Cadillac
10-20-05, 04:33 PM
In the end, the advantage that this system gives is allowing the community, as a whole, to dictate (to some extent) who gets banned. Instead of one or two people coming on and stating reasons why another member should be banned, the community, as a whole, can make this decision.

I know this is just an example but regarding the quote below and anything like it, would anyone of at least decent standing say anything like that and be serious?

Now a V guy goes to the SRX forum and says V's rule and SRX's suck.

A member like that is probably troublesome. I'm not saying this is a perfect system but let's play it out and see how it works. Maybe other vB admins don't put enough time into the system to get it working properly. Maybe the crowd around here will be different.. Let's give it a shot and see how it works.. If it backfires, we'll remove it.

Lord Cadillac
10-20-05, 04:36 PM
Sal if someone has 2 red squares. The scale disappears is that being adjusted to. I mean there is no way for them to come back if there is no scale for someone to rate them.
Nobody has two red squares anymore, so I cannot verify this. Has anyone else noticed?

AmesCTS-V
10-20-05, 04:38 PM
I know this is just an example but regarding the quote below and anything like it, would anyone of at least decent standing say anything like that and be serious?
Yeah pretty much. You know the V guys they think everything not a V sucks and thier shit don't stink. Wait I have a V....

Lord Cadillac
10-20-05, 05:15 PM
Since all this information is recorded, if there is any indication of abuse within the system, I'll know about it. The ratings can be altered if need be. Reputation can be changed.. Etcetera...

RobertCTS
10-20-05, 05:32 PM
I'm ready to give it a try. I see it as another method of feedback to our members. Let the Game Begin!:thumbsup:

Ralph
10-20-05, 10:41 PM
Gave you some more RobertCTS and Ralph.
P.s. Gave some to Kev too.

Because of your generosity, I return the favour.:thumbsup: Nice gesture.:highfive:

HotRodSaint
10-21-05, 12:42 AM
Sal if someone has 2 red squares. The scale disappears is that being adjusted to. I mean there is no way for them to come back if there is no scale for someone to rate them.

I was banned after overnight with just 2 red bars, so maybe that's why you couldn't see a scale.

But don't worry, I got three red bars now and still climbing!!!

So keep those comments coming girls, I might make 5 red bars by midnight!! :lildevil:

HotRodSaint
10-21-05, 12:45 AM
In the end what advantage does this system give?

It helps identify the members of the clique, and the one who won't follow the lead girl. :lildevil:

HotRodSaint
10-21-05, 12:47 AM
Heck Robert and I argue CAI stuff all the time, but I'd never consider giving him negative feedback just because I don't agree with him.

When my 24 hours are up and if I'm still here, you get points for being an adult. :highfive:

HotRodSaint
10-21-05, 12:54 AM
We're not going to have it so that a member or two can decide who stays onboard and who doesn't. If a member gets a significant amount of bad rep from members, they'll get a warning.

In your hypothetical scenario, because it would never happen here...:bigroll:

If two members target another member, do those members get an equal amount of points taken away for harrassment? :suspense:

HotRodSaint
10-21-05, 01:02 AM
In the end, the advantage that this system gives is allowing the community, as a whole, to dictate (to some extent) who gets banned. Instead of one or two people coming on and stating reasons why another member should be banned, the community, as a whole, can make this decision.

But hypothetically speaking, two members can dictate a members reputation? :hmm:

Boombotz
10-21-05, 01:17 AM
But hypothetically speaking, two members can dictate a members reputation? :hmm:

I don't understand each member can only vote once per person- per day right?:confused:

HotRodSaint
10-21-05, 02:10 AM
I don't understand each member can only vote once right?:confused:

The two top 5+ green people have more power than a single bar, right?

So how many single bar people must vote in order to offset the power of a 5+ green bar?

RobertCTS
10-21-05, 06:19 AM
I was banned after overnight with just 2 red bars, so maybe that's why you couldn't see a scale.

But don't worry, I got three red bars now and still climbing!!!

So keep those comments coming girls, I might make 5 red bars by midnight!! :lildevil:

Good Lord Saint, How did you ever get that many bad grades? I see you from time to time in the Lounge but you seemed like a nice Guy. I even commented on all the antennas on your Caddy(sails masts). I'll give you a + but I don't think we'll ever dig you out man!

RobertCTS
10-21-05, 06:23 AM
I don't understand each member can only vote once right?:confused:

1 Vote per day boombotz. Thanks for the ++:)

I musta missed it..what's the difference between light green and dark green boxes?

Lord Cadillac
10-21-05, 07:40 AM
No difference. Once you get a certain amount of points, the colors change. That's all..

RobertCTS
10-21-05, 08:07 AM
No difference. Once you get a certain amount of points, the colors change. That's all..

So as you accumulate more points the light green turns dark green.

Sal, you got the hatches battened down and ready for Wilma?:eek:

Boombotz
10-21-05, 09:49 AM
1 Vote per day boombotz. Thanks for the ++:)

I musta missed it..what's the difference between light green and dark green boxes?

No problem. I just gave you some more. Can you please answer me this ? . Was there a really big difference from what you had this morning in points to what you have now since I gave them. From what I understand HRS is saying that people with a lot of bars produce more points which I agree to a point, but I don't think 2 people could destroy your rep in a day.

Brett
10-21-05, 09:58 AM
2 people or even 1 could get someone banned originally, but we tweaked the system, so that we didnt all get banned. :) More green bars, more power you have

RobertCTS
10-21-05, 10:06 AM
No problem. I just gave you some more. Can you please answer me this ? . Was there a really big difference from what you had this morning in points to what you have now since I gave them. From what I understand HRS is saying that people with a lot of bars produce more points which I agree to a point, but I don't think 2 people could destroy your rep in a day.
Boombotz,
FYI your luv gave me 145 pts. I'll give it back to see what you get from me in pts.
Crap..I gave out to much luv in 24hrs. I shall be back. How many hits allowed in 24hrs?:hmm:

Boombotz
10-21-05, 10:09 AM
2 people or even 1 could get someone banned originally, but we tweaked the system, so that we didnt all get banned. :) More green bars, more power you have

Thank you. That was the answer I was looking for. I knew that people who had more bars had more power but not enough that 2 people voting would get someone banned. I would really hate to see anyone get banned. Though I don't always agree with what is said. I feel that most things people have to say is important.

Lord Cadillac
10-21-05, 11:19 AM
The system works on averages. The more points people accumulate, the more it takes to effect one's status.

HotRodSaint
10-21-05, 12:00 PM
From what I understand HRS is saying that people with a lot of bars produce more points which I agree to a point, but I don't think 2 people could destroy your rep in a day.

2 people or even 1 could get someone banned originally, but we tweaked the system, so that we didnt all get banned. :) More green bars, more power you have

So yes, if two people or even one could get someone banned, then those same 2 or 1 could destroy your reputation in a day.

I am -483 with 4 bars right now. The hit you gave RobertCTS gave him 147. So all you would have to do, if I was at 0 is hit 3 of my posts today with a few other people spread out in between so it could be accomplished. It'd be easy and faster if you sent a PM to your girlfriend and asked her to play the same game.

Also the game can be played in the opposite direction. I give you positive, post a few more to others and come back and give you more positive.

It's a game, that's all it is. Those that don't play along get subjected to retribution.

HotRodSaint
10-21-05, 12:03 PM
Thank you. That was the answer I was looking for. I knew that people who had more bars had more power but not enough that 2 people voting would get someone banned. I would really hate to see anyone get banned. Though I don't always agree with what is said. I feel that most things people have to say is important.

I'd give you positive for this, but at the bottom my points are worthless and I have very limited numbers to spread around. So I decided to only use them on the one bar people that don't frequent the lounge. They need some love too!!

LittleB
10-21-05, 01:27 PM
Thank you. That was the answer I was looking for. I knew that people who had more bars had more power but not enough that 2 people voting would get someone banned. I would really hate to see anyone get banned. Though I don't always agree with what is said. I feel that most things people have to say is important.
Bravo well said, I agree. I don't want to see anyone go, it shouldn't be like that.

RobertCTS
10-21-05, 02:15 PM
I'd give you positive for this, but at the bottom my points are worthless and I have very limited numbers to spread around. So I decided to only use them on the one bar people that don't frequent the lounge. They need some love too!!

Saint,
Can you give positive points? I don't think so. You're like in purgatory and only allowed to watch..as I understand it.:hmm:

Bob

Lord Cadillac
10-21-05, 02:19 PM
People in the red can give reputation but it doesn't count for any points.

I think everybody should stop focusing on rep and go back to their normal every day ins and outs - giving reputation based on current events rather than past events. Otherwise, this isn't going to work.

RobertCTS
10-21-05, 02:31 PM
People in the red can give reputation but it doesn't count for any points.

I think everybody should stop focusing on rep and go back to their normal every day ins and outs - giving reputation based on current events rather than past events. Otherwise, this isn't going to work.

Sal,
I'm sure the novelty of it will pass soon and things will return to normal.:)

HotRodSaint
10-21-05, 02:53 PM
I think everybody should stop focusing on rep and go back to their normal every day ins and outs - giving reputation based on current events rather than past events. Otherwise, this isn't going to work.

So the system as currently being exploited by a very few members, isn't producing a 100% fair outcome?

Is that what you are saying? :hmm:

Lord Cadillac
10-21-05, 03:46 PM
You're still here, aren't you? Stop worrying about your rep and contribute to the forum and people will give you good rep. I don't know what to tell you. I'm having a busy day and I'm the only babysitter here today. Brett is away.

RobertCTS
10-21-05, 03:49 PM
So the system as currently being exploited by a very few members, isn't producing a 100% fair outcome?

Is that what you are saying? :hmm:

Saint,
You're stirring the RED pot.:stirpot:

HotRodSaint
10-21-05, 03:55 PM
Saint,
You're stirring the RED pot.:stirpot:

I was just seeking clarification!! :D

Lord Cadillac
10-21-05, 03:56 PM
Stirring the pot is nothing new to him. Not saying he's the only one. We have plenty of pot-stirrers amongst us and we've all been guilty of it at some time or another. But enough is enough. People need to let things slide/go. I don't know how people can just go on and on and on about the same thing(s) forever.

HotRodSaint
10-21-05, 05:06 PM
Not saying he's the only one. We have plenty of pot-stirrers amongst us...

Finally someone in "management" has said it!! Now maybe we can start to have some closure!! :highfive:

scourge
10-21-05, 06:03 PM
Just how many red bars must a member get before they are banned? If its jsut going to be for show, then it's best not to lie to members that a REAL enforcement system exists when it, in fact, does not.

Krashed989
10-21-05, 06:16 PM
5 red bars bans you for a small period of time. Then the system gives you 4 red bars for a chance to redeem yourself. If you fail to redeem yourself the period of time you are banned increases, or so I have gathered.

Lord Cadillac
10-21-05, 06:51 PM
Scourge, the system changes on a daily basis as a result of averages. The system has already banned two members as a result of negative feedback (rep). However, just because a person is banned doesn't mean they cannot still obtain positive rep from somebody reading a post and liking what the member has said. That being the case, the member can come out of banishment.

If a member is a consistent problem and they're continually getting negative rep without any positive reinforcement, the member will remain banned...

mccombie_5
10-22-05, 11:43 AM
What does it mean in the User Control Panel in the reputation table when there is a grey block? Is that bad rep? If it is i thought that would be red......

Anyone?

HotRodSaint
10-22-05, 12:00 PM
What does it mean in the User Control Panel in the reputation table when there is a grey block? Is that bad rep? If it is i thought that would be red......
Anyone?

It could be either. Grey is neutral. And it's neutral because that person doesn't have enough clout to give you a score either way.

mccombie_5
10-22-05, 12:17 PM
It could be either. Grey is neutral. And it's neutral because that person doesn't have enough clout to give you a score either way.

Ah i get it

Thanks

RobertCTS
10-22-05, 01:40 PM
Ah i get it

Thanks

Probably a new guy and noone has had time to get him off grey(neutral) So it gives you no points,

mccombie_5
10-22-05, 06:26 PM
Another question

Why have we got such a small limit on how many rep points we can give in a day?

By the time ive gotten through all the posts i want to give pos for from the day before, i have none left for today

Any chance of bringing it up Sal?

Lord Cadillac
10-22-05, 06:34 PM
To help prevent abuse, it has to stay low... For now...

Also. I figured out how to increase the rep comments in your control panel to more than 10... I haven't changed it yet, though..

mccombie_5
10-22-05, 06:38 PM
To help prevent abuse, it has to stay low... For now...

Also. I figured out how to increase the rep comments in your control panel to more than 10... I haven't changed it yet, though..

So it may go up some time in the future?

Im not seeing much abuse of the system so far, i think its working very well, its nice to knwo where your opinion is appreciated

Lord Cadillac
10-22-05, 06:46 PM
Thanks.. Yes, it'll likely go up in the future. Being this is a new feature, it's more-likely to be abused now than later. Later on, when one or two people abuse the system, it'll stand out. Right now, abuse could blend in with all the activity...

mccombie_5
10-22-05, 07:11 PM
Thanks.. Yes, it'll likely go up in the future. Being this is a new feature, it's more-likely to be abused now than later. Later on, when one or two people abuse the system, it'll stand out. Right now, abuse could blend in with all the activity...

Good point, well Im finding ALOT of my feedback is coming from posts i made over a week before the system came in, so it needs to become current before it is changed, i can see why you are reluctant to change instantly

Lord Cadillac
10-22-05, 07:15 PM
Oh, you'll get rep from posts you made when you first got here. I can still receive rep for my very first post. That first post will be seen for the first time by somebody every day..