I've been waiting & waiting, to kick some aas:want: but can't find any:bonkers:
has anybody had a chance to play? how fast are they?

Fewer and 'far-er' between than the CTS-V due to the outrageous premium over sticker they want (my assumption). Prior to my V purchase, I just wanted to do my due diligence and test drive one and they had the car roped off like it was one of the orginal Superbirds. Stated they wouldn't take anything less than $58,000 for it ($15,000 over the sticker on the window).

I hear it's a drivers race with the margin of error on the V's 6 spd a disadvantage. (What I've heard, not necessarily what I believe or experienced).

A friend of mine informed me that one of the SRT-8s he is currently working on dynoed at ~340 rwhp.

Interpret as you wish. :)

I saw and SRT-8 a few months ago but that was it.

. Stated they wouldn't take anything less than $58,000 for it ($15,000 over the sticker on the window).

I hear it's a drivers race with the margin of error on the V's 6 spd a disadvantage. (What I've heard, not necessarily what I believe or experienced).
I went to see what they were about, they told me 3 month wait:cookoo:
plus 10 thou over stcker:cookoo: , Went to the cady dealer picked up
the V with an emloyee discount:) . I cant wait to play:want: .
Besides to much bling for me :yawn:

A friend of mine informed me that one of the SRT-8s he is currently working on dynoed at ~340 rwhp.

Interpret as you wish. :)
There's the added weight on the SRT8 also so you can't compare hp straight up.

I've always heard this is a pretty even race.

There's the added weight on the SRT8 also so you can't compare hp straight up.

I've always heard this is a pretty even race.

I'm well aware that there is added weight in the SRT-8. I didn't make a comparison--I just said what I was told the rear-wheel HP of one particular SRT-8 was... :)

I thought for certain that the rwhp would be a *little* higher on the SRT-8 vs. the V, as it's a 6.1 liter Hemi, rated at 425 HP. I found it interesting that it was so close to the stock V numbers. Granted, this is one SRT-8, but interesting nonetheless.

Yeah that is some serious drivetrain loss.

I heard that they have the same gear box as the E55, I wonder,
do the srt-8, leave the hole as quick?:confused: Cant wait to find out:devil:

Yeah that is some serious drivetrain loss.

340 is about right, as you can expect on average about a 20% drivetrain loss thru an automatic.

Mark

I've posted it before... I raced one, and it was a damn close race (V the length of the car)
... more of a drivers race than anything.

I hear they're all in California getting screen time in the gangsta videos...

Actually saw one in Ocean City, MD a little ways back...wheels make it look like a cartoon car.

I'm well aware that there is added weight in the SRT-8. I didn't make a comparison--I just said what I was told the rear-wheel HP of one particular SRT-8 was... :)

I thought for certain that the rwhp would be a *little* higher on the SRT-8 vs. the V, as it's a 6.1 liter Hemi, rated at 425 HP. I found it interesting that it was so close to the stock V numbers. Granted, this is one SRT-8, but interesting nonetheless.

Hi Boys...I watch your forum cause I love your cars. Most of the SRT8s are dyno'd at 367 rwhp..

http://www.300cforums.com/forums/srt-8-general-discussion/11159-any-dyno-stock-srt8.html..

seems like the 425 rating is a bit conservative (more like 450). Over on our forum there seems to be a lot going on with mods now, SCs, Headerss, etc....

And your right...I have only seen a few Vs around and haven't had the opportunity to run with one... Don't see many srt8s either. I kind of like the "rareness" of both. Most of the boys on the forum paid msrp or close (as did I) Like your car (which I have driven and LOVED), srt8 is great bang for the buck.

Hi Boys...I watch your forum cause I love your cars. Most of the SRT8s are dyno'd at 367 rwhp..

http://www.300cforums.com/forums/srt-8-general-discussion/11159-any-dyno-stock-srt8.html..

seems like the 425 rating is a bit conservative (more like 450). Over on our forum there seems to be a lot going on with mods now, SCs, Headerss, etc....


Like I said, it was merely the results of one SRT-8. :) Perhaps he had a dog, or the guy misquoted me.

srt8 is great bang for the buck.

Well, it WOULD be if dealers weren't marking them upwards of $15k!! :cookoo: That is so disappointing to me...

Like I said, it was merely the results of one SRT-8. :) Perhaps he had a dog, or the guy misquoted me.



Well, it WOULD be if dealers weren't marking them upwards of $15k!! :cookoo: That is so disappointing to me...

Agreed (with the emphasis on "greed") I have seen several attempts, unsuccessful mind you, to sell them on e-bay with a huge markup. It seems to be the worst in Cal..

Agreed (with the emphasis on "greed") I have seen several attempts, unsuccessful mind you, to sell them on e-bay with a huge markup. It seems to be the worst in Cal..

If you remember, they were also asking over MSRP when the "V" came out, which was then "lowered" to MSRP. I would bet that no SRT-8 owner paid more than list (or lower) for their car. By the way, what is MSRP for the SRT-8? I have a friend that bought a 2006 300-C with the hemi (not the SRT-8) and that listed for $42,000.

The most expensive 300C I have seen was about 39... I think the SRT ones are 10 more than that.

This is great at least we talk and don't bash each other like the Vette/Viper group. Anyone know if the power is the same for a charger?

This is great at least we talk and don't bash each other like the Vette/Viper group. Anyone know if the power is the same for a charger?

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/PopUpVideoPlayer/videoID=20029142/articleId=107369

Video of Charger SRT-8 test

If you remember, they were also asking over MSRP when the "V" came out, which was then "lowered" to MSRP. I would bet that no SRT-8 owner paid more than list (or lower) for their car. By the way, what is MSRP for the SRT-8? I have a friend that bought a 2006 300-C with the hemi (not the SRT-8) and that listed for $42,000.

Mine was msrp of $45800, fully loaded 2005 (one of only 252 made- -before they had kicker option and rear dvd). I thought that was very good "bang"...blutooth, in dash 6 disc CD, nav system, satellite radio, etc..

And your right, most of the guys on the forum shppoed or pressured the dealers and paid msrp or very little over.

A magazine just did a review on the Magnum SRT8. Yes, it is a magazine driver but it only went 0-60 in 5.2 with a 13.6/105.9 quarter. They don't have to pay a GGT tax on that car because of the size of its cargo bay (considered a truck). They complained about its handling that is "like a truck". They compared it to the S4 Avant and the E55 AMG Sportwagon. Gee I wonder which one won?

My next door neighbor sold his 740i and bought an SRT-8 the same week I bought a CTS-V to replace my 540i. I have yet to meet the guy (never see him), but if I happen to, I'll mention that I'd like to see what they can do.

On a side note, there was an SRT-8 on E-bay when I bought my car (Sept), with a buy it now of $45,800, and I think after relisting it a few times it ended up going for just under $45k. They are based at under $40k, and with options top out in the mid to high 40s. I had several offers from dealers when bidding online for SRTs in the mid-40s, so I wouldn't assume that they are all expensive from the "sucker" markups you may see out there.

I'd be interested to know if the markups are going away with the recent sales slowdown at the big 3. See this post: http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54584

Brian R.

A magazine just did a review on the Magnum SRT8. Yes, it is a magazine driver but it only went 0-60 in 5.2 with a 13.6/105.9 quarter. They don't have to pay a GGT tax on that car because of the size of its cargo bay (considered a truck). They complained about its handling that is "like a truck". They compared it to the S4 Avant and the E55 AMG Sportwagon. Gee I wonder which one won?



Actually that time does not surprise...the mags have consistently timed the Magnum SRT8 in that range (5.0- 5.2)..it is slower than the 300C srt8. What surprises me is the "handling" criticism..it usually gets very high marks there. Here is one example....

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=16&article_id=9833


Most mags get the 300C srt8 at around 4.7. Here is one example from same mag (car and driver)

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=9479&page_number=1

This is great at least we talk and don't bash each other like the Vette/Viper group.

Or the CTS-V/STS-V group. :p

I've seen a few on the road. My first sighting of an SRT-8 was a black one commuting to work a few months ago. The next one I spotted was a month ago parked in it's driveway, and it was black as well. Just yesterday, I spotted another one and this one was silver on hwy 1 north. They look nice with their polished wheels. I think Cadillac should've given us some polished wheels to match our grilles.

This morning, I spotted an E55 AMG flying behind me and really wished I had my Maggied "V" all these times. I was driving the commuter beater Audi to work all these times. :(

I've been fortunate enough to be able to ride in an SRT8.It was at a Chrysler demo-drive day.I got to drive the 300C Hemi 5.7L which I was pretty impressed with...for a Chrysler.Given that I dont like Chryslers.

And the SRT8 was called a "Thrill Ride." A real instructor and race car driver from Skipp Barber Racing School took me out for a lap around the track.The thing is FAST.I was very surprised.Being that it weighs in at around 4000lbs, that is bigger than compact trucks.I don't know how well it actually handles in a racing type setting.Granted, it went fast around the track, and without the ESP, he displayed his driving finness of taking corners.We were side-sliding through the entire corners and then some.

That being said, i still think that the CTS-V produces more rwhp than the SRT8.It just felt like for a 425hp motor, it felt like it lacked a lot of the power on the ground.

The only SRT-8 i've seen was driven home for the nights a few times by dealership guy. I wanted to park next to him and at least gets picks of the V next to it but he always got home after dark. He hasn't brought back in some time now. I've never seen one on the road but then again their hard to spot. Much respect to the SRT-8.

The only SRT-8 i've seen was driven home for the nights a few times by dealership guy. I wanted to park next to him and at least gets picks of the V next to it but he always got home after dark. He hasn't brought back in some time now. I've never seen one on the road but then again their hard to spot. Much respect to the SRT-8.

Thanks...it is very much the same for the V. The rare times I spot one, I usually strain my neck looking at them...that is a badass car....

I am partial to the american muscle sedans Vs, SRT8s, Mustangs, GTOs..plus the M3s and M5s and of course....the AMGs. Whish I could own one of each...

Or the CTS-V/STS-V group. :p

Not true. There are no STS-V owners.

Edit after reading post below: Am I wrong? Are they arriving?

I actually saw one today, but its been raining for the past five days:banghead:

Guys, isn't there a completely stock SRT8 300 that ran a 12.9 with under 1000k on the clock? Has any stock V run that yet?
A neighbour owns a black SRT8. The wheels do make it look toy-ish. And I just can't get over the looks. I bet it's a great car, handles well, obviously fast, but I'll still have a V in my driveway next year. Sooner if I can find a low miles LS6!

There's the added weight on the SRT8 also so you can't compare hp straight up.

I've always heard this is a pretty even race.

It is pretty close but, IMNSHO, there is more variance on the CTS-V side. The cars with the bad axle hop will probably lose. A well driven 05 should edge out a 300C SRT8 and more easily beat the wagon. However, it remains to be seen if the Charger SRT8 is faster than all of them. One guy ran a 13.0 stock in one of the first ones off the line.

Also, it remains to be seen if the 06 V loses a tenth or two like the LS2 does in the GTO.

When you have just a tenth or two separating the cars it really comes down to the driver!

I've been fortunate enough to be able to ride in an SRT8.It was at a Chrysler demo-drive day.I got to drive the 300C Hemi 5.7L which I was pretty impressed with...for a Chrysler.Given that I dont like Chryslers.

And the SRT8 was called a "Thrill Ride." A real instructor and race car driver from Skipp Barber Racing School took me out for a lap around the track.The thing is FAST.I was very surprised.Being that it weighs in at around 4000lbs, that is bigger than compact trucks.I don't know how well it actually handles in a racing type setting.Granted, it went fast around the track, and without the ESP, he displayed his driving finness of taking corners.We were side-sliding through the entire corners and then some.

That being said, i still think that the CTS-V produces more rwhp than the SRT8.It just felt like for a 425hp motor, it felt like it lacked a lot of the power on the ground.

I seriously doubt that.

The only side by side test I have seen is the Feb 05 Motor Trend. The V ran 13.1@109.8 versus 13.3@107.5. But, the Chrysler is 315 pounds heavier and equippedwith an automatic. Using a calculator that would put the V at 340 RWHP and the Chrysler at 360 RWHP.

I've seen a grand total of three SRT-8's on the road, all of them 300's. Two were in Michigan(one in Auburn Hills in fact) and one in California. The one in Auburn Hills smoked me in my Q45 rental car, the other SRT-8 I saw in Michigan was a chaeffeur vehicle for the Chrysler big shots. The chaeffeur commented on how it lacked a bit on the low-end, which I somewhat witnessed when I raced the other SRT-8 and had the lead early in the race.

I've seen two others at dealerships, both with ridiculous mark-ups. One had over 5K miles and they wanted $60K:cookoo:.

I've said it before, but the over charging reminds me of when they were asking $30K plus for the PT Cruiser when they first came out. It seems more common/acceptable practice at Chrysler/Dodge than Ford or GM.

Here

http://jasondidit.com/VIDEO/300C_SRT8_DRIFT.wmv

I've said it before, but the over charging reminds me of when they were asking $30K plus for the PT Cruiser when they first came out. It seems more common/acceptable practice at Chrysler/Dodge than Ford or GM.

They are selling at MSRP if you look around some.

Yes I've saw some (when I was looking) at MSRP but none within a 60 mile radius and wouldn't think about purchasing without driving it first. I couldn't find a single dealer willing allow a test ride. I'm sure they are nice cars, and the power tilt/telescoping wheel is a feature I wish the V had, but Cadillac won my business.

Yes I've saw some (when I was looking) at MSRP but none within a 60 mile radius and wouldn't think about purchasing without driving it first. I couldn't find a single dealer willing allow a test ride. I'm sure they are nice cars, and the power tilt/telescoping wheel is a feature I wish the V had, but Cadillac won my business.

The Magnum I test drove had manual tilt/telescope, are they doing power now?
I have it with memory in my STS and it is very nice with three drivers in the house.

Yes I've saw some (when I was looking) at MSRP but none within a 60 mile radius and wouldn't think about purchasing without driving it first. I couldn't find a single dealer willing allow a test ride. I'm sure they are nice cars, and the power tilt/telescoping wheel is a feature I wish the V had, but Cadillac won my business.

I agree

Shame on a dealer asking you to fork over $45,000 without a test drive

I've been waiting & waiting, to kick some aas:want: but can't find any:bonkers:
has anybody had a chance to play? how fast are they?

Here's my Maggie when she first arrived home from the dealership. I paid <$43k fully-loaded:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/bmartin9122/2006%20Magnum%20SRT8/SRT8front.jpg

Here is Maggie next to my daughter - Maddie:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/bmartin9122/2006%20Magnum%20SRT8/Picture002.jpg

I haven't gotten any real challengers. Either noone takes the wagon seriously, or noone knows what it is. I have received a handful of "thumbs-up". I would love to line up next to a V at a stop-light.

If I ever wanted a wagon again, it'll be because of the Magnum SRT-8. What a machine..... However I wish you didn't call it maggie though.:halo:

Nice car Martin.

Saw a silver 300C SRT8 last week at our local car show, talked with the owner and saw his timing slips from our local dragstrip. His best was a 12.93 and he had pretty good reaction times. He has a CAI and the car has been dynoed. Don't know what else has been done to the car, but ought to be a good run for the V. I'll let everybody know if I get to the strip before it closes (if the weather holds up) because we have agreed to race them together. Don't worry I'll represent us well, I've been racing all my life and I can do the tree. Need some practice launching to keep the wheel hop down.

If I ever wanted a wagon again, it'll be because of the Magnum SRT-8. What a machine..... However I wish you didn't call it maggie though.:halo:

Thanks for the compliment, and don't worry.... I don't really call my car "Maggie". I just wrote that to make the description of the photos a little more interesting to read.

Very niiiiiice, would love to meet up at a light, would be niiiiice!
Good luck! When i heard maggie, i thought super charged?

My business partner just picked one up, so we should have some good videos coming shortly.

If you are stock and want to race a 300C SRT8 or a Charger SRT8 you better have your launch down or you will get beat. A couple of green Chargers with just a few hundred miles on them ran 12.9 and 13.0 stock. And with an automatic those times are more easily repeated.

This is great at least we talk and don't bash each other like the Vette/Viper group. Anyone know if the power is the same for a charger?

Or the CTS-V/STS-V group. :p

Not true. There are no STS-V owners.

Edit after reading post below: Am I wrong? Are they arriving?

I meant that we don't bash SRT-8 forum guys as much as we bash STS-V forum guys, at least lately.

12.8 with only CAI? Damn... I'm mad I paid several K more for a car that won't keep up 0-60 or in the 1/4! If these SRT8's are putting up these numbers with automatic transmissions, and we can't match it with a stick, that's bad. Bad! Guess I'll have to clamp on a Maggie or something. Then there's the wheel hop and differential to deal with, but if the '06 differentials are better, maybe the wheel hop is the only big problem. And of course we'll eat up those boats in the twisties, right? And out-brake them, huh? Plus, those SRT8's look like every rent-a-car on the road... Skeeter, in my stock '05 Caddy

When i heard maggie, i thought super charged?

Yeah, I thought of that after I had already posted. GSMotorsports & Hennessey is making a supercharger kit for 6.1L HEMI motors. Maybe once my warranty is over, I will take the plunge.

http://www.gsmotorsports.com/
http://www.hennesseyperformance.com/

Saw my first SRT-8 this afternoon headed north on I-15 in Norco: black, and brand new (no plates yet). I disagree with those who don't like the 300C sheet metal... mob boss cool, IMHO. Maybe we could have raced if the freeway had been going more than 15 MPH. :yawn:

The only way I could tell that it was not a regular 300C is that it had a little rectangular SRT-8 badge on the rear where the 300C badge usually sits. There may be more subtle differences, but they're too subtle for me.

Saw my first SRT-8 this afternoon headed north on I-15 in Norco: black, and brand new (no plates yet). I disagree with those who don't like the 300C sheet metal... mob boss cool, IMHO. Maybe we could have raced if the freeway had been going more than 15 MPH. :yawn:

The only way I could tell that it was not a regular 300C is that it had a little rectangular SRT-8 badge on the rear where the 300C badge usually sits. There may be more subtle differences, but they're too subtle for me.

If you want one with that is a little less subtle try the Charger SRT8