View Full Version : Smoke Tire with a 97 ETC


CadillacSTS2003
10-11-05, 06:43 PM
Ok ive check around and read alot thoughtout the forum but i still not sure how to go about doing this. Some say turn off the TC via the button hit the ebrake and floor it but this only causes the car to start in 2nd and pull the car. Ive herd if you pull the abs fuse it turns off the TC and gives you 1st but only on cars without OBD-2 cars. Im tired of my friends with there lil ricers burnin out and sayin my caddy dont have enough balls to do it. Id like to pull it off once and soon before my powertrain warrenty expires on the car in the event the car drops the tranny. I kno this is stupid i kno its a caddy and not designed to do this so please dont rub it in just help PLEASE!!!

Eldyfig
10-11-05, 07:01 PM
Tell them you have more torque than they could dream of. You don't waste time spinning tires, your ETC grabs the road and goes, showing off the back side.They'll see the back side so much, they will forget what the front of the car looks like.

I don't even turn off traction control. When I want to fool around and spin tires (mostly on a back road, just because my 9 yr. old likes when I do it), I just put my foot on the brake pedal and bring the rpms up to about 2000. When the rpms are up, I let off the brake and asquealing I go. I think as long as both wheels are spinning, traction control isn't kicking in. The pcm thinks the car is moving. Now if one wheel slips and the other doesn't or not at the same rate, then traction would kick in.

darkfuntime
10-11-05, 09:27 PM
:cookoo: i hate to be rude but thats the dumbess post i have seen here the you cant lite it up cus you got tc:yup: you could just tell your friends its built for comfort and speed and 9 times out of 10 your el-dog will walk on them anytime:thepan: belive me when i tell your many a time i willl hit it doing 80 on interstate hit it and oops im going 110 with the rice burner in the rear view.sure the rice burner may handle better come on you got a caddy:sneaky:

CadillacSTS2003
10-11-05, 09:55 PM
i seriously beg to differ watch the video it can be done...



http://www.angelfire.com/ultra2/valencialuis/Caddy.wmv

darkfuntime
10-11-05, 09:58 PM
your site wont link up

CadillacSTS2003
10-11-05, 10:01 PM
you have to click save link and play it using windows media player or winamp etc...

gmendoza
10-11-05, 10:14 PM
I'm very serious when I ask this. Why did you buy an Eldorado? It seems like you wan't a car to mod and f' aroud in. I think you may be better suited in a muscle car rather than a high hp luxo-coupe like the Eldorado.
The Eldorado will blow the doors off most of these sport tunners while being a very quiet, refined, luxurious ride. Also tires up in smoke does not equal fast. You could light the tires in an 80hp Sentra but that doesn't mean it's going to go.

CadillacSTS2003
10-11-05, 10:17 PM
i love the look always have my rents have always had Caddys and i said i dont intend on beatin the $hit outts it i juz wanna do it once to shut them all down

gmendoza
10-11-05, 10:32 PM
Okay, so you like the looks of the 'Llac.
Have you tried putting the car in gear (so that the car is already in 1st), holding the brake, turning off TC, and giving it gas while holding the brake just enough to hold the back tires?

Rich_M
10-11-05, 10:41 PM
Excellent video..

Regards,
Rich

CadillacSTS2003
10-11-05, 10:42 PM
doesnt work the computer forces the car into 2nd even though it says its stuck in 1st

also glad you like the vid

Boombottz
10-11-05, 11:25 PM
That is an awesome video. Was that a personal video or a Caddy promo?

I have a 2002 same exterior color, I can relate.

CadillacSTS2003
10-11-05, 11:32 PM
naw i picked it off the forum and its what proved to me it was possible to spin tire (im assumin since an STS can do it an ETC can cuz they have the same drivetrain)

Eldyfig
10-11-05, 11:37 PM
i love the look always have my rents have always had Caddys and i said i dont intend on beatin the $hit outts it i juz wanna do it once to shut them all down

Ii honestly took me a few minutes to figure out what this meant. Help me out with a little punctuation next time.

Benjamin Simon
10-11-05, 11:46 PM
how do i make mine spin????????????

CadillacSTS2003
10-11-05, 11:53 PM
idk thats what im tryin to figure out!!!

davesdeville
10-12-05, 03:19 AM
On an OBDI car there is a PCM override accessable through the DIC to turn off TC for 11 ignition cycles. IIRC on an OBDII (96+) car you'll have to pull the ABS fuse to get 1st gear starts with TC off.

CadillacSTS2003
10-12-05, 11:36 AM
I herd that that only causes you ABS and Traction Control Lights to stay on even after you put the fuse back in you still dont get 1st gear are your sure thatll work it if you are pretty sure it will ill pull the fuse and try it. Its a real biotch to go in to the comp and clear all those codes to get those lights out afterwards

Rock
10-12-05, 12:51 PM
Sorry man... SOMEBODY'S gotta say something. Despite the popular belief to the contrary, there truly ARE stupid questions. This post DESERVES general flaming.:gun2:
doesnt work the computer forces the car into 2nd even though it says its stuck in 1st
Obviously, the car is smarter than you. Sell the Caddy and go buy a rice-rocket. The Eldo is for grown-ups and it's too much for you. Try to pick up a book on Grammar and Style while you're at it.
:rant2:

CadillacSTS2003
10-12-05, 12:58 PM
Rock 1st off dont be an anal cavity ok? 2ndly its the net short sweet and too the point works i dont need 100% on my grammar ty. Also before you go on your rants i have an 83 Trans am and 78 Mustang II. Why dont you if you dont have anything positive to say keep it to your fukin self ok hows that sound. And for someone whose soooo wise why dont you get your facts straight its a car its not smart or dumb its a car is the computer and last time i checked humans control what a computer does. I think your just pissed off that some 18 yearold kid has an 97 Eldorado. Guess what DEAL WITH IT!!! AND FOR THE RECORD I WILL NEVER EVER AS LONG AS I FUKIN HAVE THE ABILITY TO DRIVE WILL EVER OWN OR DRIVE ANYTHING NOT AMERICAN

Rock
10-12-05, 01:02 PM
I rest my case. :canttalk:

CadillacSTS2003
10-12-05, 01:06 PM
You are nothing but a cheeky old man get in your Caddy which you dont deserve to own and putz around at 20 on an 55 mhp and keep giving ppl the ideology that only old ppl drive Caddys you are one major step back in Caddy owners I REST MY CASE.

STS 310
10-12-05, 01:26 PM
Wow. Did this post go to the birds or what.

boricuacaddy
10-12-05, 01:44 PM
since I joined this forums I been searching a lot of the posts and seen a lot of people willing to help those in need no matter what the questions might be and the age of the person. It is sad when someone asks a questions? and we get some people not liking the question and flaming the person for either their question or their punctuation and grammar. I would think that these forums are to help people with Cadillac's no matter their age, color, religion or beliefs. I know that since I join I been happy reading all the posts excepts for some few that seem to get off track and go another direction. hopefully we all can just chill and really use this forum for what it was intended for! To help one another! My 2 miserable cents..

CadillacSTS2003
10-12-05, 02:53 PM
Thanks Boricuacaddy i agree i was askin a simple question and i got Rock attackin me much agreed though

Rock
10-12-05, 03:00 PM
I stand accused, and I generally agree with you. But to globally accept all posts and questions, regardless of content, is to demonstrate a total lack of values. When something wreaks of distaste and disrespect, and then to not say anything, simply condones the action. It's that sort of attitude that leads to events such as the Columbine shootings.

It is amazing that a mature person would find this person's posts acceptable, yet hammer anyone who expresses objection. You should try reading the other posts by this person. He should be in JAIL, let alone have a driver's license. Yet, some of you consider that you are "helping" him!? Help him do what?... break the law? Endanger himself and others, maybe even endanger you or your family?!

I agree that it was bad form of me, and I suppose I should just keep my thoughts to myself, and I shall in the future. But SHAME on you all! I apologize to most of you for my comment, and I shant do it again.
:(

97CadillacPimpin
10-12-05, 03:13 PM
I was also wondering if my 97 sls could get a chirp off the line, haven't tried it.

CadillacSTS2003
10-12-05, 03:36 PM
Rock you a complete nut job. First off ive dont nothing illegal. 2ndly last time i checked burn out are quite legal at PITTSBURGH RACEWAY which is where i race and intend on tryin to burn tire in my ETC. Now to compaire me to the likes of the Colombine shootings its ABSOLUTLY LUDACRIS!!! Your way off base and way outta line. For a 51 year old man you act like a 2 year old pushing your impressions on how someone should drive and handle their cars. Its not your car so it doesnt matter to you. If i get in you car and beat the $hit outta it then you can say something. Until then why dont you go down some Viagra cause god know you are not getting any thrills behind the wheel of you car and with you attitude probably not from your wife (if you even have one that is)

CadillacSTS2003
10-12-05, 03:41 PM
97CadillacPimpin yea you can def chrip them mash the pedal and before the the tc engages the tires will def scream a lil. Getting them to acutally burn and smoke is somthing entirely different.

Voided_Mind
10-12-05, 04:16 PM
I just thought I'd give it a go.
You are nothing but a cheeky old man get in your Caddy which you dont deserve to own and putz around at 20 on an 55 mhp and keep giving ppl the ideology that only old ppl drive Caddys you are one major step back in Caddy owners I REST MY CASE.
What in the world makes you think you have any more reson to deserve to drive a Cadillac more than an "cheeky old man?" Oh, I suppose it's because he's a respectable driver? Because he knows what it means to drive a Cadillac, and drive it with dignity? I suppose people who drive with their BRAIN, and drive WELL do not deserve a LUXURY (not race) car? If anything, YOU do not deserve to own a Cadillac, nor any car other then what you dispise most. I would agree and tell you to go out and buy a Honda Civic. Those take abuse and with your driving style, you'd enjoy it I think. And by the way, don't go trying to "Show off" the fact that you own a Cadillac at the age of 18, because I own one at the age of 17. And I am plenty sure to believe that there are younger then myself that own cars such as ours.

Summing it up: It's clear to me, and I am sure to many others on this forum, that you are getting worked up over a "cheeky old man" having the same car as you. Just because he doesn't drive it like a race car doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve the car. (Not to mention, there aren't many people that drive slow these days, let alone 20 in a 55?!) On top of that, ANYONE deserves to imput their OPPINION, whether it be positive, or negative. This is the only reason why I post this very message.

MACTICULOUS
10-12-05, 04:40 PM
I think you have get your panty's out of their twist kid. If you own a Cadillac, act like you do . Don't act like a child by yelling at people, old man this, old man that. That's stupid. I also hope you don't show your attitude of "I'm 18 and I have a Caddy" around other KIDS your age. I'm telling you right now that that will get a rock through one of your windows or your car bashed in. I could have had a Caddy sooner than I did now but I chose not to. At 17, I was driving a Lincoln, I like the Caddy far better though.
As far as the typing, slow down and stop bashing your fists against the board. Take your time, it takes me too long to figure out what you're saying in your posts that by the time I'm done, I forgot what you said in the beginning. Also, stop trying to sound like such a tough guy, you don't come off as one. Everyone (including ROCK) here has the right to say what they want, which I have besides for one more thing. Every time you or others like you are caught driving dumb, speeding, getting into accidents, whatever, you contribute to the statistics that claim that men under 25 drive "poorly". A result of this makes me have to pay higher insurance because of people who drive like you.
On a final note: I would be willing to bet that you son't care about your car and you drive it the way you do because Mommy and Daddy probably paid for it in one way or another. Drive your car smart and like an adult, if not, go blow your head gaskets and have Mommy and Daddy pay for it.

-Mac http://cadillacforums.com/forums/images/smilies/16suspect1.gif

pillagingpiper
10-12-05, 05:13 PM
True dat, MAC. I was driving a base model S10 pickup when I was 18, had a perfect driving record, and had to pay $155 per month for insurance. My sister, who can't drive a TRICYCLE in a straight line, had an accident and two tickets, paid less than $100 per month at the same age. Rediculous. :bonkers:


As for all the testosterone laden anger in this thread...chill out guys. :cool2: Life's too short to get so bent out of shape...no matter WHAT age you are. :shhh:


The Piper

Voided_Mind
10-12-05, 05:29 PM
Just thought I'd add...Rock you a complete nut job. First off ive dont nothing illegal. 2ndly last time i checked burn out are quite legal at PITTSBURGH RACEWA
Hmmm, and while reading some of those other topics he has started, I really start to wonder... Who's the nutjob now?
Hey ive noticed that when im drivin my ETC on the interstate and im goin like 80 my rpms are at about 2700 rpms. Is that normal sry if i sound stupid on this but my moms Deville and my dads STS Seville dont rpm that high around those speeds. Plus i have an Z rated tire (orginally Z's too) and my car seems to run outta umhp at 110ish i sure if im goin down hill i could be goin faster lol but i thought they had no problem hittin 150 my dads 93 ETC i had up to 145 no problem but this 97 ETC seems to be struggleing

CadillacSTS2003
10-12-05, 06:42 PM
1st off who determines how a car is driven huh? Just because old ppl with their soc sec checks usual can, makes caddys have a bad rep as old poeple cars. As for my interstate comment i was doin 80 in a 75 zone which last time i checked on a 8 lane road isnt really pushin it. Also if you have such a big problem why dont you just DEAL WITH IT. I bought the car im payin for it ill do what i please with it. Oh and btw heres another thing im part of the 1st high school race team (WE ARE FULLY LICENCED BY NASCAR) and ive had to go to a performance driving school to get my licence so i very much kno how to handle a car at high speedswith in reason. Corvettes arent built for burning out but guess what people do it and a Vette cost about as much as a Lac. As for the mommy daddy comments dont you ever talk about my parents i mean common how retarded is that you gonna make your point seem stronger by stating my parents pay for my car wow whoes the 18 year old here again? Guess what they do not have the money to pay for my car cause they have their own car payments, which really isnt any of your business. If I have to email a copy of the sales slip with my signatures to prove it than I shall. I came to this forum looking for help not a fight. I had a simple question and if you dont like it deal with it and move on you dont have to verbally attack me because you dont condon what im doing. You dont have to like it nor do i expect most of you older ppl to. Also an ETC is classified as a Luxury SPORTS CAR just as a Corvette is. Now before you all say then buy a Corvette or a Trans-AM etc.. I have a Trans AM and i hate it anymore they are too small and i like the room Caddys have. SO THANK YOU AND STOP WAISTING MY TIME. Im sick from Mono and i really dont have the energy to deal with this anymore. If your gonna help, then help if your gonna attack what I wanna do thats fine disagree but I dont care to hear it so move on.

tremor12
10-12-05, 06:50 PM
words, words, poorly constucted words

Dude... just quit while you're behind, please. This is a fairly small forum (at least the legacy Seville / Eldorado section), and this type of pissing contest is unnecessary.

CadillacSTS2003
10-12-05, 06:54 PM
Once again i will post because people dont seem to get it either please help me or do not comment thank you

Obviously your parents didnt raise you with the value if you dont have anything nice to say then say nothing at all

tremor12
10-12-05, 07:23 PM
Help you with what? You've already said that you want to burn the tires on a track. Well, a track is going to have a water box that will allow you to do that. The traction control will not be able to compensate enough to keep the tires from spinning then. Problem solved, move on.

CadillacSTS2003
10-12-05, 07:32 PM
nope sorry still dont do it tired anyone else

MACTICULOUS
10-12-05, 08:19 PM
We could all sit here and continue to play games with you. If I say stop crying, guess what, you're going to post again http://cadillacforums.com/forums/images/smilies/crying2.gif http://cadillacforums.com/forums/images/smilies/crying.gif because you want to try and get the last word. So, go ahead and try to be a smart a$$. If you want to keep your crap up and complain, call names, and act like a child, then bring it on http://cadillacforums.com/forums/images/smilies/gunsmile.gif. It seems like you're a little outnumbered. If you keep it up, it'll be like beating your head against a wall http://cadillacforums.com/forums/images/smilies/banghead3.gif For a person who has mono, you seem to be feeling good enough to sit and post stuff right after other people do with your childish responses. Do us all a favor, cut it out, grow up, and admit that you went too far with some of your posts against people and go burn and waste your tires :spin:. By the way, a Vette costs alot more than your El Dorado (No offense to other Eldo drivers). I have spoken, sohttp://cadillacforums.com/forums/images/smilies/mooner.gif.

-Mac

Krashed989
10-12-05, 08:52 PM
Hey man I'm 18 too. Last time I lit up all I did was stick it in drive and slam the E-brake and the gas. Its a lot better to do it on a damp rainy day that way you dont screw the tires up too bad (I had a whole new set lined up just in case). Be careful, stop pressing the gas if you realize that only one tire is spinning. I think its kinda cool when it draggs the back end a little, it shows how much power it has. Be Careful though, and remember I did not tell you to do it, I'm just telling you one of the ways you can do it.

caddypete
10-12-05, 08:55 PM
Maybe your caddy just won't spin the tires. The way it was engineered was to put the most torque to the wheels without spinning, spinning the tires does not get the best 0-60 or 1/4 mile times. My eldo would spin them all the time until the traction control kicked in, and when it hit second it would violently whip the steering wheel. Since then the tires have been replaced it is a lot quicker and controlable.I feel better knowing when I pass someone at WOT and hit second my car is not going to torque steer into the car I am passing.And I am a 49 year old man.

CadillacSTS2003
10-12-05, 09:30 PM
Kashed989 thanks alot for the input but ive tried that on my 97 and just pulls the car no spin in the tires

darkfuntime
10-12-05, 09:31 PM
i think you in the closet :crowded: or just too young sell the caddy and buy a honda:hmm: im sure your a allrite kid but i belive rick has rite if the price is right i will buy your el-dog cus two is better than one:bigroll:

gmendoza
10-12-05, 09:36 PM
1st off who determines how a car is driven huh? Just because old ppl with their soc sec checks usual can, makes caddys have a bad rep as old poeple cars. As for my interstate comment i was doin 80 in a 75 zone which last time i checked on a 8 lane road isnt really pushin it. Also if you have such a big problem why dont you just DEAL WITH IT. I bought the car im payin for it ill do what i please with it. Oh and btw heres another thing im part of the 1st high school race team (WE ARE FULLY LICENCED BY NASCAR) and ive had to go to a performance driving school to get my licence so i very much kno how to handle a car at high speedswith in reason. Corvettes arent built for burning out but guess what people do it and a Vette cost about as much as a Lac. As for the mommy daddy comments dont you ever talk about my parents i mean common how retarded is that you gonna make your point seem stronger by stating my parents pay for my car wow whoes the 18 year old here again? Guess what they do not have the money to pay for my car cause they have their own car payments, which really isnt any of your business. If I have to email a copy of the sales slip with my signatures to prove it than I shall. I came to this forum looking for help not a fight. I had a simple question and if you dont like it deal with it and move on you dont have to verbally attack me because you dont condon what im doing. You dont have to like it nor do i expect most of you older ppl to. Also an ETC is classified as a Luxury SPORTS CAR just as a Corvette is. Now before you all say then buy a Corvette or a Trans-AM etc.. I have a Trans AM and i hate it anymore they are too small and i like the room Caddys have. SO THANK YOU AND STOP WAISTING MY TIME. Im sick from Mono and i really dont have the energy to deal with this anymore. If your gonna help, then help if your gonna attack what I wanna do thats fine disagree but I dont care to hear it so move on.

OMG Dude, a 'vette and an Eldorado are not in the same league. A 'vette is a sports car. An Eldorado is a luxoury coupe. A 'vette will perform great in an autocross event whereas the Eldorado wont. The Eldorado will take you from point A to point B in class, confort, luxoury with plenty of power. The 'vette has oodles of power, has some class for a sporst car (not in the exotic league either) but you'll feel every bump, rock, crack in the road.

BTW, a stock early 80's Trans Am and a Mustang II are a joke when it comes to performance. I think you'll be better suited in an 98+ Mustang GT.

CadillacSTS2003
10-12-05, 09:41 PM
Not my trans am its all corvette drivetrain replaced myself and the Touring Model of the Eldo is classified as a Sports Car

gmendoza
10-12-05, 09:52 PM
Not my trans am its all corvette drivetrain replaced myself and the Touring Model of the Eldo is classified as a Sports Car

Do you have any pics of your TA? What year 'vette powertrain did you use?

Also an Eldorado is not a sports car.

CadillacSTS2003
10-12-05, 09:59 PM
My TA is on ebay right now its the 83 Daytona Pace Car Edition (so yea it had shitty crossfire but i did what i could) i put a 350 x-fire, 700r4 shift kit (giving me acceleration in od) 2.77 rear end, hypertech thermomaster chip, vette throttle position sensor, 160 deg thermostat, performance water pump, k&n filters and had the crossfires set up cleaned bored out and tuned by a k&b preformance shop.

auction is here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pontiac-Firebird-83-Pontiac-Trans-Am_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6420QQitemZ458080752 7QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

gmendoza
10-12-05, 10:06 PM
^Wow, a 83 T-Top Daytona is very disirable to an enthusiasts. Do you still have the stock wheels?

Sounds like you did alot of work to the TA but a 350 crossfire was one of the weakest 'Vette engine.

CadillacSTS2003
10-12-05, 10:11 PM
i won it at an auction it was repoed cuz the camp behind my house was turnin into a junk yard. the old man who had it refuses to give me the orginal rims old wacko. so no i dont other than that shes pretty good ride hasnt rolled over (the odometer i mean) just getting tired of it put soo much work and cash into it lookin for something more

MACTICULOUS
10-12-05, 10:28 PM
Also an Eldorado is not a sports car.

I'm glad someone else pointed this out too. I like the Eldos but by no means are they a sports car.
-Mac

Benjamin Simon
10-13-05, 12:02 AM
Well that was a 98-2000 STS, how did they do the burnouts?

CadillacSTS2003
10-13-05, 12:21 AM
turn off the tc depress the ebrake and slam the gas, i tried it, it just pulled the car forward no spinage

davesdeville
10-13-05, 04:24 AM
I suppose people who drive with their BRAIN, and drive WELL do not deserve a LUXURY (not race) car?

I've taken my ETC to the dragstrip. Do I not deserve a luxury car, your highness?

Fact of the matter is that Rock started this BS by insulting CadillacETC1997. Which was uncalled for.

Help you with what? You've already said that you want to burn the tires on a track. Well, a track is going to have a water box that will allow you to do that. The traction control will not be able to compensate enough to keep the tires from spinning then. Problem solved, move on.

IIRC the TCS will apply the brakes and shut down up to 5 injectors to keep the car from losing traction. When I was driving in snow and the rear tires got hung up on a bump, I could floor the car and the front tires would just rotate slowly. A water box is much less slick than snow.

By the way, a Vette costs alot more than your El Dorado (No offense to other Eldo drivers). I have spoken, sohttp://cadillacforums.com/forums/images/smilies/mooner.gif.

-Mac

Actually comparing 00 models, only the convertable version of the 'vette exceeds the ETC MSRP. I'll bet the drop top Eldo conversions were pretty pricey too.

And the ETC may not be considered a sports car (it's a Personal Luxury Coupe) by insurance standards but anything that will pull off 14s and hang with SN95 Mustangs... it may as well be a sports car.

BACK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND

I herd that that only causes you ABS and Traction Control Lights to stay on even after you put the fuse back in you still dont get 1st gear are your sure thatll work it if you are pretty sure it will ill pull the fuse and try it. Its a real biotch to go in to the comp and clear all those codes to get those lights out afterwards

I do not own an OBDII car but I believe it will not only light up the lights but it will disable traction control and ABS. So you want to be careful, in case you end up wishing you had ABS in an emergency.

As for the codes, there are 2 kinds of codes: history and current. Current means the problem that set the code has happened during this ignition cycle (as in, since you started the car,) history means it's happened in the past few dozen ignition cycles (so it happened fairly recently but hasn't happened since you started it this time.) So when you put the fuse back in, the codes will become history codes which should not trigger the malfunction indicator lights.

mcf1000x2003
10-13-05, 05:26 AM
At the track in my sts all idid was go around the water box but if u wanna smokem i turned the tires and cut them left a little then punched it

Krashed989
10-13-05, 05:39 AM
I do not own an OBDII car but I believe it will not only light up the lights but it will disable traction control and ABS. So you want to be careful, in case you end up wishing you had ABS in an emergency.

As for the codes, there are 2 kinds of codes: history and current. Current means the problem that set the code has happened during this ignition cycle (as in, since you started the car,) history means it's happened in the past few dozen ignition cycles (so it happened fairly recently but hasn't happened since you started it this time.) So when you put the fuse back in, the codes will become history codes which should not trigger the malfunction indicator lights.


Yes you are correct. The ABS and the TCS both work out of the same module, the EBTCM, and both systems need most of the same sensors in order to work. So if you were to create a problem with one system, it is almost guaranteed that the EBTCM will shut down both systems as a safety precaution.

Fuses are designed to break a circut in the event of excess wattage. You would rather the fuse blowing than the wires melting. Replacing the fuse restores normal operation. Which means that the computer will not sense a problem anymore and the code will become history.

I'm pretty sure that the history codes stay in memory for about either 25 or 50 startups. History codes will not illuminate any warning lights because the computer is not currently sensing a problem.


Another way to disable both systems is to pin the floater in your brake fluid resovior down...or siphon the fluid out, but thats not safe...

Eldyfig
10-13-05, 06:15 AM
I don't believe speed alone is going to make a vehicle considered a sports car. It has more to do to with speed and maneuverability, a tighter suspension.


Fuses are designed to break a circut in the event of excess wattage.

Excess amperage.

Krashed989
10-13-05, 06:43 AM
Excess amperage.


amperage x voltage = wattage. but since the voltage is always 12, your only variable is amperage so we are both correct.

tremor12
10-13-05, 07:40 AM
turn off the tc depress the ebrake and slam the gas, i tried it, it just pulled the car forward no spinage

There you go, your car is just teh suxor. :histeric:

mcowden
10-13-05, 12:43 PM
amperage x voltage = wattage. but since the voltage is always 12, your only variable is amperage so we are both correct.

You're both right, but fuses are sold by their amps and volts ratings separately. They aren't rated by watts. So, yes it's a technical detail, but an important one nonetheless. If you had a 1000 watt fuse that was rated for 100 volts and 10 amps, it might blow if you put only 5 amps through it at 200 volts. Still 1000 watts but it blows one way and not the other. Personally, I convert all my cars to the old glass cylinder fuses and wrap them in aluminum foil so they don't blow until 10,000,000 amps. Saves a lot on fuses if they never blow! :D I'm so smart! :dance:

kevinrea
10-13-05, 02:11 PM
Hey CadillacETC1997...


I just tried this yesterday with my 97 eldorado., i put it in first gear off the line and powerbraked until the rpm's would not go any higher, and I let her go.
She burned rubber off the line, and the traction control never kicked in.

it was pretty cool.

kevin

CadillacSTS2003
10-13-05, 02:30 PM
1st off DavesDeville thank you so much for finally defending me i much apprecate it. Also everyone else who has added thank you too, i figure as soon as i can get outta bed ill try pullin the abs fuse and givin it a go. if that dont cut it i guess i just have to settle for kevinrea's point power break and then let off. Thanks Guys!!!

Voided_Mind
10-13-05, 03:50 PM
I suppose people who drive with their BRAIN, and drive WELL do not deserve a LUXURY (not race) car? I've taken my ETC to the dragstrip. Do I not deserve a luxury car, your highness?
I guess I am the first to inform you of this little invention called sarcasm?
Reread my post and you will see that infact, I was getting my point across that good drivers deserve luxury cars just as much as anyone else.

MACTICULOUS
10-13-05, 04:24 PM
I guess I am the first to inform you of this little invention called sarcasm?
Reread my post and you will see that infact, I was getting my point across that good drivers deserve luxury cars just as much as anyone else.

Damn right VM. http://cadillacforums.com/forums/images/smilies/highfive.gif
-Mac

davesdeville
10-14-05, 05:02 AM
I guess I am the first to inform you of this little invention called sarcasm?
Reread my post and you will see that infact, I was getting my point across that good drivers deserve luxury cars just as much as anyone else.

It came off as "if you race or drive your car hard, you don't deserve a luxury car." I guess I am the first to inform you that sarcasm doesn't come across the internet very well.

ELDORACER
11-03-05, 12:58 AM
HELL ya i am 18 too and have a 97 etc also i also just want to embarrass my friends. i dont even know how to spell yet use grammar. I put an exaust and intake on my car as well a full tuneup. i am looking for a little more hp too i am intrested in a chip or overiding the ecm talk to ya l8er if you find anything let me know

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-03-05, 01:34 AM
CadillacETC1997....

I can understand why you want to do burnouts in a Cadillac. You want to show your car has balls to your ricer friends. (which i agree with) But wouldnt it just be easier on you and your car if you just took them for a ride and floored it?
An ETC is a very fast Cadillac, and it should be run occassionally to clear the carbon from the combustion chambers. But I was wondering, wouldn't your '74 Eldorado Convertible do a better burnout with all that low end torque and muscle? Now i see that it is a "project car" so that may mean that its not roadworthy now, but if you can drive it, would that car do a better burnout considering the massive amounts of low end torque the 8.2L produces?

Side note:

I have done a few burnouts in my '92 SDV and when I say a "few" i mean like 3-4 really good ones w/ smoke, and this is within 11 months of ownership. I have heard horror stories from my vehicle services teacher and I have seen what a big burnout did to a 4L60-E Caprice, it shot a part (I forget what part) through the tranny case. And doing excess burnouts in my '95 Roadmaster caused the clutches, and springs in my LSD to go bad. So I know that my car has the capability to do nice smokey burnouts, but i just dont want to break anything again by doing them a lot. And having a big FWD car already puts excess wear on the front tires by having to add acceleration to the list of things they must do, along with most of the braking and steering, so I see that doing burnouts just takes more life off tires that already have enough going against them.

Well anyways, goodluck in your trial and error, and I hope nothing goes wrong.

CadillacSTS2003
11-03-05, 02:03 AM
The 74 is Mech sound except for a minor tranny leak at the front seal. When i say project it needs all the stupid plastic peices replaced due to dry rot and the top replaced. If i wanted to smoke tire that bad i hop into the Stang or the TA i just wanted to hopefully smoke the tires on my ETC a lil right before i destory them in a race.

gmendoza
11-03-05, 02:04 PM
CadillacETC1997....

...You want to show your car has balls to your ricer friends. (which i agree with) But wouldnt it just be easier on you and your car if you just took them for a ride and floored it?...


What he said.

CadillacSTS2003
11-03-05, 02:11 PM
i gave up on this a long time ago guys believe me im happy with the ride and performance of the car ELDORRACER brought this threat back from the dead take a look it was over a month old.