: Opinions. Are the 02-06 Escalades going to be phased out with the 07's come out?



Escolade
09-30-05, 12:21 AM
I've been wondering this. In the next upcomming months I planned on purchasing a used 2002 or 2003 Escalade. With all this talk of the 2007's, do you think that the 02-06 Escalades are going to look like Dinosaurs? I was thinking about changing my vehicle choice to an H2 but they are still pretty expensive. Owners, what do you think?

Eddie

blingblingcv
09-30-05, 12:39 AM
Its about what you think. Take a look at the 99 and 00 Escalades. Those were the old body style before the current style. Think about those. If you think those are dinosaurs than dont get an 02 or 03. I know some people that think the old body styles are crap and others still think that the 99s and 00 are hot. So if you think that 00 and 99s are still in and not dinosaurs than get one.

slk230mb
09-30-05, 01:39 AM
I think the transition to the 07 body style will be less dramatic as the shift from 99-00 to 2002. I don't think the 2002-2006s will look dated by any means. But as always just My Humble Opinion.

hcvone
09-30-05, 08:32 AM
If you like the looks of the present Escalade then just don't worry what the new ones will look like, I like the present Escalade looks, front end wise, and we only hope the new one looks at least that good. :)

Boombotz
09-30-05, 08:47 AM
:yeah: took the words right out of my mouth. Just get what you like now. If something comes out, and you like it better trade in and get the new.

DenverEXT
09-30-05, 01:41 PM
I was thinking about changing my vehicle choice to an H2 but they are still pretty expensive. Owners, what do you think?

I've hated the H2 since day 1. The H2 is NOT a Hummer. It's a Tahoe. GM continues to piss me off with using old popular names to sell new crappy cars (ie. Malibu... the original was a Chevelle of which I own, the new is a competitor to an Escort. WTF? :mad2: ). No offense to the H2 lovers out there. Just my opinion.

Stick with the Escalade. If you're afraid it going out of style when the '07 comes out, wait. If you like the current, get it. I just got my '02 EXT and love it.

Stuntless
09-30-05, 02:28 PM
I'm actually worried the '07's will look WORSE than the current models...

hcvone
09-30-05, 03:59 PM
Look worse, that's funny. Some people like the looks, some people don't, I guess that why there is more than one type of car. ;) I am sure the new Escalade's will be even nicer than the present one, it just may take some getting used to.

Escolade
10-01-05, 08:01 PM
I think the transition to the 07 body style will be less dramatic as the shift from 99-00 to 2002. I don't think the 2002-2006s will look dated by any means. But as always just My Humble Opinion.

I would have to agree with you here. I don't think that this shift is going to be as drastic either. I fell in love with the 02 Escalade from the second I saw it. I was 15. Now I'm a little older and have some money to throw around and would finally like to own one. Since I'm only 19 an 07 is out of the question. I think all is well though. :yup:

CadillacGrillz
10-01-05, 09:30 PM
if the new escalade only comes out as a suburban size im going for an H3 put the 24's on hehehe already planning some stuff

slk230mb
10-01-05, 09:34 PM
if the new escalade only comes out as a suburban size im going for an H3 put the 24's on hehehe already planning some stuff

The regular (Tahoe) size is expected as well.

CadillacGrillz
10-01-05, 10:19 PM
but is it expected in the beginning or after some time

slk230mb
10-02-05, 12:25 AM
but is it expected in the beginning or after some time

I'd have to say beginning. If anything I expect the EXT to be delayed, b/c I haven't heard a thing about the Avalanche/EXT redesign.

caddycruiser
10-02-05, 04:01 PM
I'd have to say beginning. If anything I expect the EXT to be delayed, b/c I haven't heard a thing about the Avalanche/EXT redesign.

The regular wheelbase Escalade will be first, followed by the longer ESV and the truck EXT a few months later. Espect the Tahoe, Yukon, and Escalade to start hitting lots in January '06.

CadillacGrillz
10-02-05, 04:33 PM
damn well i hope it passes quickly this month i mean its already gonna be 2 yrs with my escalade

smoovlatino
10-03-05, 11:19 PM
Does anyone anticipate a large depreciation in value of the 02-06 Escalades when the 07's come out? This has been killing me ever since I found out Caddy redesigned the 07'. Pretty soon, every Joe on the street is going to be able to afford the prestigious Escalade because of the price drop.

Spittin Game
10-04-05, 01:02 AM
I dont see the prices dropping much for the 02-06. I think it will be seen as just another year older, and the regular depreciation that comes from that.

smoovlatino
10-04-05, 10:55 AM
The Escalades seem to be dropping in price every month: look how inexpensive a 2002 Cadillac Escalade EXT is now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cadillac-Escalade-EXT-Sport-2002-Cadillac-Escalade-LOW-MILES-MUST-SELL-KBB-38-500_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6148QQitemZ45800486 71QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Synergetic
10-04-05, 05:52 PM
The Escalades seem to be dropping in price every month: look how inexpensive a 2002 Cadillac Escalade EXT is now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cadillac-Escalade-EXT-Sport-2002-Cadillac-Escalade-LOW-MILES-MUST-SELL-KBB-38-500_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6148QQitemZ45800486 71QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Its people like that who are bringing the prices down on Escalades. 28 g's for a 2002 with only 11,000 miles on it is way too low. They even say it themselves, KBB price $38,500. Thats too bad... :bigroll:

Escolade
10-30-05, 03:25 PM
I would just like to bring this back for some further discussion and more opinions. Anyone like to add?

mikeee
10-30-05, 03:43 PM
I purchased an 03 knowing very well that the body style will change. The spy shots were enough for me to determine that no way would I ever be interested in the 07 escalade. The equity I have in my truck might be a factor for me not caring much. But GM seriously softened their line of trucks. All the "beefiness" is gone and starting to look more and more like a Ford product. Very sad. Even if it were a total hunk of junk, it will still drop the value of our current trucks.

Look at the 1st gen Escalades, theyre going for 10k. If you told me that back when they were hot, i wouldve shit my pants. But thats reality.

It all comes down to your concerns. If you like the current body style, and love the truck, wait a few months because they will be much cheaper. If your concern is the current model escalade "looking old", then get the 07, because once they flood the streets with the new esclades, our will slowly start looking like "old trucks".

Personally, I would wait for the 07, test drive it, compare all options and see what works best for you and then make a decision.

My brother will only drive the latest body style, no matter if its improved or not, so long as its NEW. And he is a Denali fan, so when he gets his new denali, which Im sure is already ordered (if theyre offereing that), I will test drive it and see. After seeing the sissy-Passat-like interior, I am 95% sure I will love my 03 even more.

caddycruiser
10-30-05, 04:00 PM
My brother will only drive the latest body style, no matter if its improved or not, so long as its NEW. And he is a Denali fan, so when he gets his new denali, which Im sure is already ordered (if theyre offereing that), I will test drive it and see. After seeing the sissy-Passat-like interior, I am 95% sure I will love my 03 even more.

I'm amazed by the comments, especially on this board of all, about the new interior (at least the Chevy/GMC) being "sissy" or too carlike. Yeah, right....I guess parts that actually fit together properly, are rock solid, and have luxurious textures is just a travesty compared to the current gen's "Chevy in light drag" interior. And this is coming from a current '04 Suburban owner, mind you--our truck is solid, no doubt, and comfortable, but the overall material substance and "feeling" is of something in the $15k price range. The Escalade, even though the chrome door handles and little wood bits are nice, isn't much higher on that scale.

Granted, no one here has REALLY seen or touched any of the new trucks in person, but based on the various high-res pics, the improvements are quite obvious. PLUS, you have to remember, the Escalade interior is expected to be largely unique, and not just Chevy parts with some new paint.

You know, because you might FINALLY be able to drive a $50k+ truck that not only looks the part, but can actually FEEL like something costing so much. What a novel idea:rolleyes:

mikeee
10-30-05, 04:54 PM
I'm amazed by the comments, especially on this board of all, about the new interior (at least the Chevy/GMC) being "sissy" or too carlike. Yeah, right....I guess parts that actually fit together properly, are rock solid, and have luxurious textures is just a travesty compared to the current gen's "Chevy in light drag" interior. And this is coming from a current '04 Suburban owner, mind you--our truck is solid, no doubt, and comfortable, but the overall material substance and "feeling" is of something in the $15k price range. The Escalade, even though the chrome door handles and little wood bits are nice, isn't much higher on that scale.

Granted, no one here has REALLY seen or touched any of the new trucks in person, but based on the various high-res pics, the improvements are quite obvious. PLUS, you have to remember, the Escalade interior is expected to be largely unique, and not just Chevy parts with some new paint.

You know, because you might FINALLY be able to drive a $50k+ truck that not only looks the part, but can actually FEEL like something costing so much. What a novel idea:rolleyes:
Well the man asked for opinions, and he is getting them. Look at the pics, take the steering side by side with a Ford Expedition, same design, placement of buttons, everything. Look at a side by side shot and block the front end. They look the same as an Expedition. The flares are gone and all there is is an ugly strip JUST like the ugly expedition.

Look at the skinny leather seats, JUST like the gator, almost identical.

You can pack a car ass to mouth with options and these little touches that make you happy, but if you take away the things that made an escalade an escalade, then you have a shitty remodel. Its ok, its not the first time GM screws up or any other manufacturer for that matter. Thats why sometime options go away and come back when they realize how much poeple liked them. I mean damn, the SUV is still a big truck. Made to haul, carry lots of poeple and baggage and go off-road and do everything else cars cant, Luxury is nice I just dont like taking the "toughness" out of them.

But again, thats just my opinion and to each his own. The new escalade is a dressed up Expedition with cadi logo. Time for a new designer to join the GM family.

caddycruiser
10-30-05, 06:16 PM
Well, that's your opinion right now.

One thing that REALLY ticks me off, for example, is how they seem to have COMPLETELY written off even improving the 3rd row one bit. As is, it is cramped, uncomfortable, and a pain in the arse to remove whenever you need more room, as far as the short models go. In the long ones, it's relatively roomy and a lot more comfortable because the floor drops down for a more normal seating position in the short models, but their solid back bench is even worse to wrangle in and out than the split seat in the shorties.

Yeah, a big part of them not doing much with it is because they kept the solid rear axle--but a Dodge Durango, for instance, which isn't much longer, has a similar big axle underneath the back, and its 3rd row not only folds flat into the floor, but is also quite comfortable. Then you have the Expedition and Navigator with probably the BEST setup still, out of all full-sizers, with the Armada and QX56 close by.

It's quite and oversight, and as a Suburban owner who loves most everything about their truck EXCEPT the antique 3rd row design, it may very well write a next-gen replacement completely off the possibilities list for our next vehicle.

But back to what you said, about the design and the pieces--we haven't seen the Escalade for REAL yet, so give it a few days and wait until then, and then judge on the looks, interior, etc. The Chevy/GMC always look blander, with the Caddy being the cool older older brother, so that might certainly stay true.

At least there won't be any hideous gaps (like the approx. 1" space b/w grille and bumper on the front of EVERY GM big truck currently, that is more often than not made worse by the bumper ALSO being crooked....), thin and hollow plastics, flimsy door panels, etc., like there are now.

Black Beauty 03 ESV
10-30-05, 06:28 PM
The Cadillac is just like any vehicle, as the years go by there is a certain amount of depreciation and if you take good care of your vehicle one day it could be considered a collector's item. I love my 03 ESV and I would'nt trade for the world not to mention that after all of the after-market work that I've done no one could even come close to giving me the value of what this vehicle means to me. This is not to say that I won't like the 07's, and if it's that appealing to me then I'll just have work a little harder to aquire one. No matter what year Escalade you have it will never go out of style if you LOVE it!!!!!!!

Falkolade
10-30-05, 09:12 PM
Will there be a dramatic change for 07? i think not... will an 02-06 look dated? Yes! ! ! anytime a model changes the older design... well looks old. but if you like it so what? Me... I can't wait till I can get my hands on an 07... W/e gets you off... go for it ! ! !

Lade
10-30-05, 10:00 PM
I'm just afraid of my 02's trade in value...its lost a lot in last two months and once the the 07 is on the floor the ball isn't really in my court...especially if I want one of the first one to hit LA....AlSO IS THE WHEEL OFFSET THE SAME?

Xrayqueen
11-12-05, 01:14 PM
The Cadillac is just like any vehicle, as the years go by there is a certain amount of depreciation and if you take good care of your vehicle one day it could be considered a collector's item. I love my 03 ESV and I would'nt trade for the world not to mention that after all of the after-market work that I've done no one could even come close to giving me the value of what this vehicle means to me. This is not to say that I won't like the 07's, and if it's that appealing to me then I'll just have work a little harder to aquire one. No matter what year Escalade you have it will never go out of style if you LOVE it!!!!!!!

:yeah: I get so sick of people dissing the OBS. I happen to have a 2000 and I love it. Yes I could have bought a new one. I chose the OBS because it was what I liked. New is not always better. The short cutting these companies do makes me wonder. Let's see how many electrical problems not to mention other problems the 2007 will most likely have before jumping on the bandwagon.
Peace Xrayqueen :cool2:

smoovlatino
11-12-05, 06:41 PM
I'm contemplating getting rid of my EXT because of the major price drops... pretty soon... everyone is going to have one just like the Lincoln Nastigators!

Check this out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cadillac-Escalade-Escalade-EXT-L-K-2002-CADILLAC-ESCALADE-EXT-AWD-SUPER-NICE_W0QQitemZ4586411808QQcategoryZ6148QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

ALLeyez187onME
11-12-05, 09:28 PM
i hate to be a negative nancy to anyone who loves the 02-06 escalade body styles. but the prices on the escalades have already dropped dramatically and when the 07's come out. their only going to drop more. more and more people would rather wait to get a new one than buy an older model now. and same with me. i'd rather have an 07 than my 02. i dunno bout anyone else.

ALLeyez187onME
11-12-05, 09:28 PM
i hate to be a negative nancy to anyone who loves the 02-06 escalade body styles. but the prices on the escalades have already dropped dramatically and when the 07's come out. their only going to drop more. more and more people would rather wait to get a new one than buy an older model now. and same with me. i'd rather have an 07 than my 02. i dunno bout anyone else.

GreenLade
11-19-05, 03:05 PM
Do what you feel, I personally think the new ones are hideous and are going to make the current model look that much better. The on thing thats cool on the 07 is the interior.

nyssa7
11-19-05, 05:43 PM
That was cheap, but this one with what I'd call average mileage was much cheaper

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4590865262&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

Speaking as a non-owner who's looking to get an 02 EXT, if prices do relax a bit that would be good for me - but I need my next motor here in the UK by March so will have to make the jump by mid-Jan at latest, taking shipping and UK registration into account. Probably just in time to pay top money before any drop!