They are available now!
http://vogue-tyre.com/upimages/gallery/CAD477/477-dts-stardust-blk_500.jpg

Eww....knew it had to come sooner or later, but will people PLEASE get some taste and stop putting those stupid things on?!?

I have no problem with the Vogue tires, as they still look quite nice when on some kind of Caddy/Buick/Lincoln, but the tops are awful.

Then again, I guess it's not as bad as doing it to a CTS....or a whole flock of new Malibu's and Impala's like the local Chevy dealer did this past spring.... :ill:

I Agree a 100%!! i can get in to the cloth tops on older cadis i think they look clean on them but i HATE THESE TOPS on the new line of cadillacs! The new cadillacs look very sporty modern ect you dont see these tops on BMW and Benz ect.. Just my 2 cents and to each their own if you like them.. but me i hate them on new cadillacs! Just the other day at the dealership i saw a new STS with a hood emblem YUCK!

Eww....knew it had to come sooner or later, but will people PLEASE get some taste and stop putting those stupid things on?!?

I have no problem with the Vogue tires, as they still look quite nice when on some kind of Caddy/Buick/Lincoln, but the tops are awful.

Then again, I guess it's not as bad as doing it to a CTS....or a whole flock of new Malibu's and Impala's like the local Chevy dealer did this past spring.... :ill:

Not "Eww" but EEEwwww... That is the most uglest DTS i've ever seen, hands down...:gun2: maybe he will hit it...

The top makes something new look old. :nono:

I agree it does make something new look very old.. LOL and i thought i was the only one who did not like the tops

I think some people, most notably those from an older generation, tend to be stuck in their ways of what they like--the example here being the same old custom roof they've "had on every car they've ever owned." Okay, fine, but this isn't the 60's or 70's anymore, and doing things like this to a NEW Caddy is just as disgusting as it would be to put a purple canvas top on your new BMW....it just DOESN'T happen.

What people like is their business, but this should be a crime, really....against violating onlooker's eyes! :bonkers:

This is the kind of vulgar tack-on that got Cadillac in trouble in the first place. All those Acura, Mercedes, BMW etc. buyers are doing so because THIS is the image of Cadillac they have in thier minds. Cadillac and GM have worked long and hard to overcome this.

This is the kind of vulgar tack-on that got Cadillac in trouble in the first place. All those Acura, Mercedes, BMW etc. buyers are doing so because THIS is the image of Cadillac they have in thier minds. Cadillac and GM have worked long and hard to overcome this.

Exactly. The problem is, even when automakers have taken moves to try and stop dealers from installing anything so ugly on their cars, like Lincoln tried to mandate when the LS came out, the buyers that came in were the "same old folk" who liked the new smaller Lincoln and MADE SURE that they could get their favorite gawdy canvas roof and trunk luggage rack on it before they signed on the dotted line....so, in effect, dealers had to do what the customers wanted so they could sell the cars.

Same thing with the Chrysler 300, the higher ups at DC commenting to dealers NOT to do such a thing to their car, but once the buyers lined up and started wanting fake roofs and stick-on chrome trim, they happily abliged.

Won't be until some people GET some taste that things like this will continue....

The top makes something new look old. :nono:
Yes. But old models of 60's, 70's and 80's look better than new ones, don't them?

Aside from the looks. I've driven at least three Caddys with these tops, 91, 93, 99 and they are considerably more noisy at highway speeds. Alot more wind noise. So if you are on the fence think about the quiet ride that you will lose.

Exactly. The problem is, even when automakers have taken moves to try and stop dealers from installing anything so ugly on their cars, like Lincoln tried to mandate when the LS came out, the buyers that came in were the "same old folk" who liked the new smaller Lincoln and MADE SURE that they could get their favorite gawdy canvas roof and trunk luggage rack on it before they signed on the dotted line....so, in effect, dealers had to do what the customers wanted so they could sell the cars.

Same thing with the Chrysler 300, the higher ups at DC commenting to dealers NOT to do such a thing to their car, but once the buyers lined up and started wanting fake roofs and stick-on chrome trim, they happily abliged.

Won't be until some people GET some taste that things like this will continue....


You're right about this. I also know that the profit margin on these accessories is enormous and therefore attractive to the dealer. The profit to the dealer on new cars is so slim today that they often need something to help pay the bills. And in the 90's especially, alot of older Cadillac customers didn't like the new designs very much. These vinyl roofs, big white walls, and gold "jewlery" was the way to keep them happy. Thanks to the new designs, the median age of Cadillac buyers is lower now. I do see this kind of resale-killing decoration on newer Cadillacs from time to time, but only a fraction of the number I did 4-8 years ago.

That top looks bad. Those tops make Cadillacs look like cars for the elderly. For example, I went to the stealership to get some parts for my '99 STS and I saw a 1996 Sable Black on black DeVille Concours with NO TOP and boy did it look sharp. Of course, I didn't really notice how nice this car looked because I'm so used to seeing 1994-1996 DeVilles with those ugly tops. Those tops mess up all the 90s on up Cadillacs and some 80s: 1986-2004 Sevilles, 198?-2005 DeVilles, 1986-2002 Eldorados, Cateras, CTSs. STSs. They look plain bad.

The only thing tackier would be to add a fake Rolls Royce grille and a continental kit.

I Agree a 100%!! i can get in to the cloth tops on older cadis i think they look clean on them but i HATE THESE TOPS on the new line of cadillacs! The new cadillacs look very sporty modern ect you dont see these tops on BMW and Benz ect.. Just my 2 cents and to each their own if you like them.. but me i hate them on new cadillacs! Just the other day at the dealership i saw a new STS with a hood emblem YUCK!

I do agree that the tops look really bad on the DTS. I also can say i have seen a couple or BMW's and Mercedes were i live with the fake convertible tops

They should be available now - the roof line has not changed at all for 2006. I agree the tops are ugly, but mine came that way so I had little choice.

Jim

The only thing tackier would be to add a fake Rolls Royce grille and a continental kit.

The Vogue Mesh grille for the DTS will be next and it will be sharp. Let me see, Acura-dead 3 years ago and Mercedes, as many electrical problems as an old Jaguar. So let's not compare those two cars with anything. The perception of them of way off base.

Toyota has more than 3 million, that's 3 million bad engines with sludge problems riding around out there. In many cases they are making the owner pay part of the bill for repairs or replacements. What a quality product and what a consumer friendly company. Now here's the good part. A good percentage of these people said they would buy Toyotas again!

If there wasn't a market for accessories, there wouldn't be any accessories. To each his own. Lastly, who wants a car that looks like every other one on the road?

Another great shot:

http://vogue-tyre.com/upimages/accessories/Cadillac/W485-DTS-CabrioletTop_500.jpg

Again, I don't understand why this is big news. Externally, it's the same car except for the nose and tail. Does this look familiar?
http://www.turbojimmy.com/dts_top.jpg

Jim

Your right, just the nose and tail. They used to do this every year but now it takes 6 years. I guess that is what all the hype is about. Oh well I do like there looks but to try and say its all new is wrong.

Your right, just the nose and tail. They used to do this every year but now it takes 6 years. I guess that is what all the hype is about. Oh well I do like there looks but to try and say its all new is wrong.

I've seen 5 of them on the road now, most recently one with "DTS" wheels yesterday. I haven't done any research so I don't know what the distinction is between the base and whatever they're calling the "DTS" now. It's hard to get used to the way they look, primarily because of the fact that they are the same in the middle with a different nose and tail. Initially I didn't like the tail and thought the nose was okay. After seeing them in motion I think I like the backs better. I dunno. I think they took a certain amount of class away from them with this new look. I can't put my finger on it though.

Jim

I think it's the plate location the messes up the new model, I very much prefer the plate above the bumper, european style... There's way too much paint on the new back..

Here is a good reason not to get a aftermarket top put on a car. RUST. The covering traps moisture in it and the padding works like a big sponge to hold water in. Take a look at some of the older cars with them on it. You will see bubbles, lumps and indentations in alot of the roofs. That is the metal breaking down under the covering. This also happens with factory tops too. I had 3 cars suffer from this problem, one of which was a garage queen, and sadly by the time you notice the rust bubbles it is too late. You will have to strip the top and weld in metal where the rust is. Very costly. If you want your car to look different, change the grill. They make some tasteful custom grilles out there that actually look more classy than the factory ones. The fine mess and the billet ones come to mind. I do agree on the Rolls Royce type grill on a newer model though.

AND IT LOOKS AWFUL!

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/mccombie_5/2006-cadillac-deville-1.jpg

Okay, new "OFFICIAL POLICY":

If you, even for a second, think about putting a vinyl or canvas top on ANY new car from here on out, ANYONE in the normal world with generally acceptable taste, shall blow your head off:annoyed:

Personal tastes are personal tastes, but this garbage should be a national travesty or something....:eek:

Same goes for gluing chrome edge trim on all your wheel well lips, regardless of how stupid and out of place it looks on the car...:helpless:

Okay, new "OFFICIAL POLICY":
If you, even for a second, think about putting a vinyl or canvas top on ANY new car from here on out, ANYONE in the normal world with generally acceptable taste, shall blow your head off:annoyed:
Personal tastes are personal tastes, but this garbage should be a national travesty or something....:eek:
Same goes for gluing chrome edge trim on all your wheel well lips, regardless of how stupid and out of place it looks on the car...:helpless:
ABSOLUTELY!! Stand up and take a bow.

Completely agree

Anyone who puts a tasteless hat on the otherwise well dressed range of new cars, deserves to be publically shamed.

Okay, new "OFFICIAL POLICY":

If you, even for a second, think about putting a vinyl or canvas top on ANY new car from here on out, ANYONE in the normal world with generally acceptable taste, shall blow your head off:annoyed:

Personal tastes are personal tastes, but this garbage should be a national travesty or something....:eek:

Same goes for gluing chrome edge trim on all your wheel well lips, regardless of how stupid and out of place it looks on the car...:helpless:

I'm glad we have an official czar of what everybody should do with their own vehicles. I was worried that people might want to make their Cadillac stand out from the crowd. Have you ever seen a row of DeVilles at a rental car agency? All they need is a little sign on top that says "Cab"!

Theres a difference between making your car stand out and makeing youre car look hideous :)

I mean, how would you feel if someone glued a hat to your head, then just for good measure riveted it on.

Whereas putting a new grille, some alloy wheels or tinted glass in would jsut eb like wearing rings and sunglasses, hyou can always take them off....

Theres a difference between making your car stand out and makeing youre car look hideous :)
I mean, how would you feel if someone glued a hat to your head, then just for good measure riveted it on.
Whereas putting a new grille, some alloy wheels or tinted glass in would jsut eb like wearing rings and sunglasses, hyou can always take them off....

Precisely. I didn't mean to come off as a Nazi, but 9.9 out of 10 people would say it's grotesque in this day and age, and I would tend to agree:yup:

Precisely. I didn't mean to come off as a Nazi, but 9.9 out of 10 people would say it's grotesque in this day and age, and I would tend to agree:yup:

I agree too, i can imgine so many people seeign a perfect car for them, then having it ruinede by the fact it has one of those roofs on it

I'm glad we have an official czar of what everybody should do with their own vehicles. I was worried that people might want to make their Cadillac stand out from the crowd. Have you ever seen a row of DeVilles at a rental car agency? All they need is a little sign on top that says "Cab"!

Oh, chill out - it's just his opinion. I didn't notice him holding a gun to your head.

Oh, chill out - it's just his opinion. I didn't notice him holding a gun to your head.

Thank you:thumbsup:

I think the point of my "9.9 out of 10" comment is quickly being proved...:yup:

I'vw recently seen that type of top on a new STS and CTS.. definitely not my taste. Has anyone ever seen one on a Lexus? Jaguar, Infinity?

I'vw recently seen that type of top on a new STS and CTS.. definitely not my taste. Has anyone ever seen one on a Lexus? Jaguar, Infinity?

I saw one on a CTS the other day. While I think they're an awful idea in general, the one on the CTS looked better than my DTS. Still looked bad, but better if you know what I mean.

I saw a Jag X-type the other day with one of those tops. The owner caught a friend and I laughing at it. Oops.

Jim

Well, somebody is buying them. I can assure you Vogue did not make them to not sell them.:duck:

Well, somebody is buying them. I can assure you Vogue did not make them to not sell them.:duck:

I know....the scariest part of it all:hmm:

I just wish SOMEONE here who likes them and would readily buy, say, a new '06 DTS and pay to have one of the nasty rags tacked and glued on to their once perfectly painted roof, would say WHY.

Is it the added maintenance and care that's attractive? The moisture trapping and likely rust problems down the road?

Sorry, just don't get it. Go right ahead and change out the wheels and put on a full set of Vogues, but those tops have really outlived their welcome.

There is no rust problem with one of these tops. I once asked a dealer how they are installed and he told me they are screwed into the sheetmetal with stainless steel screws and the entire edge of the top all the way around the car is waterproffed with silicone. He had several Devilles parked on the used car lot and they looked fine.

There is no rust problem with one of these tops. I once asked a dealer how they are installed and he told me they are screwed into the sheetmetal with stainless steel screws and the entire edge of the top all the way around the car is waterproffed with silicone. He had several Devilles parked on the used car lot and they looked fine.

There is already moisture under the top, its fabric so its always going have some amount of moisture in it. The moisture then reamins under the top, unable to evapourate, so the roof becomes rusted, the reason you see so many bubbles in them.

The fabric is attached to a fiberglass shell. It can't bubble up. The material looks just like the material on an actual Mercedes or BMW convertible.

The fabric is attached to a fiberglass shell. It can't bubble up. The material looks just like the material on an actual Mercedes or BMW convertible.

IN which case water cannot get through fiberglass at all. There is always a certain amount of moisture in the air. When the top is place on, there will be SOME air under it in between this fiberglass and the roof, therefore rust, it really does happen, there are alot of threads in the FWD Deville and RWD Fleetwood section, it also causes uneven paint wear, so if somone buys the car, and realises it IS as bad as it looks on a new car, take it off and have a two tone auto.

Exactly. My 70 year old Mother still thinks I'm a pimp wannabe because I bought a 2002 DTS. There's still that stigma of Cadillac being an old man, hustler car.

At the same time, it's unfortunate that there is no longer any type of "elegant" or "classy" car available. We're not all looking to race the streets with rice burners.

i know this is a dts forum but i am thinking about getting one so i wanted to look, i have a 1997 cadillac catera vouge edition it was a dealer add on it is green with a tan cloth top chrome grille gold hood ornament chrome wheels and whitewall tires and cadillac emblems with gold emblemes on the side of the top and it is the most intersting car in my area everyone says thats a great looking car and thier both old and young people i am younger and all my friends want my car because it looks so cool young people want these kinda flashy rides like this so when i go out to get my new dts it will have all the dealer add ons i kind find top wheels grill gold package maybe even a cont.kit
i would not dream of buying a regular one to be like every one at the local enterprize rental car place

Exactly. My 70 year old Mother still thinks I'm a pimp wannabe because I bought a 2002 DTS. There's still that stigma of Cadillac being an old man, hustler car.

At the same time, it's unfortunate that there is no longer any type of "elegant" or "classy" car available. We're not all looking to race the streets with rice burners.

Amen brother! Whatever happened to classy American cars? Except for the Chrysler 300, the Bently look alike, what is another classy looking American automobile

I hate 'em as well.... What's the point of a fake convertable?

Oh man, just went by my local dealer and there it was, new DTS with the cloth top. Sure enough, elderly couple and one slippery looking salesman staring right at it. That is why they do it.

i guess im one of the few people that like them and im 22 years old. i like the way the white one looks above the black one isn't to appealing i wouldn't call it ugly though

I think the top looks good on the black one. I'm not saying that every new caddy that rolls out of the factory needs a top, and I have seen some really tacky yuppie a*s candy red/white diamond and tan top '90s caddys out there and yes it looks like sh*t. especially with a luggage rack. But if done right(like the black one) it adds class to something that can too easily look like hardly anything more than another egg shape thing with leather seats.(sorry Cadillac) But I do think that the tops should only be put on full size caddys their not made for anything you want to look sporty. I love the '78-'79 Phaeton, I think the top on that car looked amazing, way better than on any newer caddy. But I still say if done right it looks good.(without the d*mn luggage rack)

[quote=caddycruiser]I know....the scariest part of it all:hmm:

I just wish SOMEONE here who likes them and would readily buy, say, a new '06 DTS and pay to have one of the nasty rags tacked and glued on to their once perfectly painted roof, would say WHY. quote]

Uh, probably becasue THEY LIKE THEM and THEY CAN.

Get over it.:thepan:

[quote=caddycruiser]I know....the scariest part of it all:hmm:

I just wish SOMEONE here who likes them and would readily buy, say, a new '06 DTS and pay to have one of the nasty rags tacked and glued on to their once perfectly painted roof, would say WHY. quote]

Uh, probably becasue THEY LIKE THEM and THEY CAN.

Get over it.:thepan:

Amen, brother! In whose eyes are they "dated?" I personally wouldn't put one on a new car, but who's to say what one should like or dislike. Like somebody said, somebody's buying them, so there's still a market out there. If you don't like it, don't buy it - it's that simple! Hell, if I had my way, cars would still look like circa 1964 - 1968. I simply don't like the direction of styling on the current line of cars and I'm afraid they're all going to look like cartoon cars in the near future - there's quite a few of them out there already (VW Bug, 300-C, PT Cruiser come to mind.)

Just my $.02.

That's horrible.

The '71-'92 Fleetwood/Broughams don't look right without a top, but the look is abominable on the new cars.

Cadillac should banish Vogue from their dealerships; it's ridiculous.

That's horrible.

The '71-'92 Fleetwood/Broughams don't look right without a top, but the look is abominable on the new cars.

Cadillac should banish Vogue from their dealerships; it's ridiculous.

Its a good thing you dont work for Cad.

Stick to your day job.

Not saying I like the top, but If kids and seniors like donuts, IMA SELL THEM....

Its a good thing you dont work for Cad.

Stick to your day job.

Not saying I like the top, but If kids and seniors like donuts, IMA SELL THEM....

There are plenty of people working at Cadillac to rebuild the brand's image, and this stuff goes a long way toward destroying that work. The Vogued-up cars look like someone crashed them through a JC Whitney warehouse, and that's not the image Cadillac needs.

There are plenty of people working at Cadillac to rebuild the brand's image, and this stuff goes a long way toward destroying that work. The Vogued-up cars look like someone crashed them through a JC Whitney warehouse, and that's not the image Cadillac needs.

Wow, exactly what I was thinking: "look like someone crashed them through a JC Whitney warehouse". I wish more people would think that--the heads of the car companies sure do, as I remember a story of Lincoln heads complaining when they found out people were putting tops on their new "sporty" LS, and how designers at Chrysler thought the roofs ruined their bold and classy new 300.

Even beyond the tops, one of my other huge pet peeves is people who INSIST on putting chrome wheelwell lip moldings on EVERY car they ever buy. A Grand Marquis? Okay, that doesn't look THAT bad. But a Pacifica? A base Tahoe? A Camry? It sticks out like a sore thumb and definately looks like an Autozone special...

i dont really like the new DTS, the back is too plain. I want tailfins again. Suble ones like on the eldo from '92-'02. They should sink the trunk down below the lights an inch or 2 and make tailfins, i think thatd make it look like a caddy.

http://carad.ebayimg.com/i11/02/a/06/0b/f7/2c_4.JPG

on a 06 DTS...this is hot

Tops are just like any custom parts added to a car. They change the appearance and meet the desires of a group of buyers that want to personalize THEIR car.

Tops are just like any custom parts added to a car. They change the appearance and meet the desires of a group of buyers that want to personalize THEIR car.
Yes. Why some people add ugly spoilers and extra-large wheels? Convertible tops are MUCH better. They add an elegance and soul to the car.

I must be one of the few that actually like the tops on the cars. you stand out from the crowd alot more with them i think,especially with a dark car/lighter shade top and vice versa. if thats not ur thing then i understand ur hatred for them but hey to each his own

I would never have it on my fleet but you know tastes are different and chioces too

I have to agree on some of those Caddy's the top looks out of place , especiallyy those tan one's. I have 97 SLS all black with a black top, and it stands out. There are like 6 other person with the same car as mine on my block with no top and they wish their car had it. I like the fact that my car is different than theirs.

David