: Bring back the Eldorado!!!



SpeedyArizona
09-18-05, 12:02 AM
I recently purchased a BMW 3 Series Coupe thanks to Cadillac because there are no new Eldorado's to buy!! Eldorado has a legacy behind it (similar to Corvette, Thunderbird, Mustang), and how can they get rid of the symbol of an AMERICAN LUXURY CAR?!?!?!?!?!

The Eldorado needs to be brought back, it will have MANY anxious buyers awaiting its return! Even hearing the name E L D O R A D O brings the thought of luxury, freedom, and it is the true american luxury car. I understand that Cadillac is creating the CTS/STS to try and imitate a luxury sports car, but you cannot replace an Eldorado with a 4 door sedan!!!!

I couldn't afford a new 2002 Eldorado when I was 22, but when I finally can, you snatch them away (except used)!!! When you stopped production on the Eldorado in 2002, you created a hole in my heart that can't be fulfilled with a CTS, or even my new Beamer! Think about how many other luxury car manufacturers have Coupe's that are doing so well on the market when Cadillac is focusing on 4 door sedans.

Will you ever consider bringing back the true symbol of luxury, the Eldorado? Think about what you did to the Eldorado fans (new and old) on that sad 2002 year. Please, BRING THE ELDORADO BACK!!!!

70eldo
10-11-05, 02:58 AM
Maybe Cadillac intended the XLR as the Eldorado? With some fantasy you could derive eldorado out of XLR? But I agree that the XLR is not a suitable new Eldorado. It should indeed be a luxury sports coupe and not a roadster...

Bring the flagship back!

CadillacSTS42005
10-11-05, 10:16 PM
i agree i wish theyd bring it back however it prob will end up lookin like complete shit i mean look at the new deville and seville they look nothing like they used to they are just bigger versions of the CTS

I~LUV~Caddys8792
10-12-05, 05:19 PM
I think they should bring it back, In RWD form, use the platform from the GTO ( I forget what they call that platform) but yeah, make it competitive to the BMW 6 series, and CLK mercedes, but sell it for $10,000 less. Make it a Northstar V8, with supercharged Northstar optional, and 3.6 V6 standard. Basically, a Rwd luxury sports coupe, about $45-65k 240-440hp, make it be able to run anywhere from low 15's to mid 13's in the quarter mile. That would be awesome!

Krashed989
10-17-05, 11:48 PM
OOooooh this is one I will definatly second.
*starts chanting* Bring Back the Eldo, Bring Back the Eldo, Bring Back the Eldo.........:yup:

CadillacSTS42005
10-25-05, 10:52 PM
i seriously think it will end up lookin like some CTS offspring rather than a Eldo offspring

lacmang
10-27-05, 05:10 PM
Cadillac is more worried about people who buy German Luxury cars than keeping people who love Cadillacs happy. They need to bring back Eldorado and Fleetwood. And quit calling the Deville a DTS!

Patrick7997
11-03-05, 11:38 PM
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Absolutely bring back the Eldorado.....

An XLR is not an Eldorado..... The XLR is a fabulous addition to the line, but taking away the Eldorado to "make room" for the XLR makes no sense.

At the very least, there better be parts support FOREVER for all Northstar Eldorados.....

jjsocrazy
11-07-05, 11:11 AM
If I am not mistaken the XLR is considered Caddies Vette.

CadillacSTS42005
11-09-05, 12:39 PM
idk im not gun hoe on it till i see what its gonna look like if its another CTS then count me out...

jhocker
12-13-05, 09:36 PM
Yes Please.

Bring Back The ETC. I had to part with My 98 ETC after 219,600 miles.

Now I have a 2001 ETC with 45,000 miles.

Where will my Third One Come From????

We have owned 5 Caddy's so far, and driven them over 500,000 miles.

An 89 Sedan DeVille, a 90 Seville (Couldn't find an Eldorado when I needed it), a 97 Sedan DeVille, a 98 ETC, and A 2001 ETC. If these two serve as well We'll have driven 800,000 on the 5 vehicles, and that doesn't include the 180,000 that someone else drove them before we purchased them.

lacmang
04-22-06, 05:51 AM
You guys are on the right track with this concept that I hear is supposed to come out in 2009. Call it THE ELDORADO with an upscale package "The Biarritz". I'd like to see a longer trunk. Take a good look at the 67-70 . little more trunk little less fastback. Have lots of Metal parts and few if any plastic parts. autoclose trunk would be nice and any other things Cadillac owners have enjoyed. I hope someone at Cadillac is listening.

PAULSTSMAN1
04-30-06, 02:56 PM
This morning I saw that concept car on Autoline Detroit. The host of the show thought this may be an upmarket XLR, that if produced will be powered by a new Cadillac V-12, not a Northstar, but a V-12 derived from a melding of 2 high tech V-6's according to the host the V-6 is thought to be General Motors most advanced engine made.

On the show with him was Popular Mechanics, Spy photographer, who indicated the mockup of that picture is absolutely stunning, he believes the price will be north of 100K. While I think the concept is market worthy a price point of $50k and V-6, and V-8 power is more on the money.

Stratospheric price, is the hallmark of Mercedes Benz, and others Cadillac cannot touch as a 1 effort creation. It will take reputation, and exclusivity to approach those ranks, like the XLR-V. I think Cadillac should devote development to shore-up the line with a mid-range coupe to re-place the Eldorado, and possibly an HHR based entry level SUV the latter should be a dual fuel or hydrid available model.

Haleykeek
05-01-06, 06:41 PM
Eldorado? yes,you are right,Cadillac should definitely bring back the Eldorado.This was a true american icon.

HITMONEY
05-05-06, 04:38 PM
I too would like to see the return of the Eldo, I know they would never use the name Eldorado again because of all the new monikers... I would settle for "ETC".

Sadly, I don't think it will ever happen... as stated before the XLR is their coupe and I don't see them making more than one coupe... I don't think many or any manufactures make more than one coupe, besides maybe Porsche.

Too bad. I would be the first in line for a new ETC.

OffThaHorseCEO
05-10-06, 04:52 PM
i think XLR is not meant to be the new Eldo, but more just a new coupe, i also think XLR stands for eXcalibur Luxury Roadster, meanin its the new Excalibur

http://www.fedrelandsvennen.no/amcar/grom/bilder/xy127.jpg
http://www.fedrelandsvennen.no/amcar/grom/bilder/xy128.jpg

OffThaHorseCEO
05-10-06, 04:54 PM
wait, i think i was mistaken, is excalibur made by cadillac?

70eldo
05-11-06, 08:22 AM
You guys are on the right track with this concept that I hear is supposed to come out in 2009. Call it THE ELDORADO with an upscale package "The Biarritz". I'd like to see a longer trunk. Take a good look at the 67-70 . little more trunk little less fastback. Have lots of Metal parts and few if any plastic parts. autoclose trunk would be nice and any other things Cadillac owners have enjoyed. I hope someone at Cadillac is listening.

The model was said to be taken into production by Lutz. His 75% scale Sixteen... It would perfectly fit the Eldorado as the Flagship of Cadillac. Back to glory I would say!

I think the T in ETC will vanish then, if in this naming concept. I think it could still be called Eldorado. Just like Escalade will not be abbreviated.

mack1a
10-05-06, 10:46 PM
Cadillac is more worried about people who buy German Luxury cars than keeping people who love Cadillacs happy. They need to bring back Eldorado and Fleetwood. And quit calling the Deville a DTS!

My first Cadillac was a 1997 Eldorado ETC. Now that they are no longer available I buy DTS's (performance level) which actually is a DTS at least.

Calling the normal poor handling DeVille with a canvas top and fender skirts a DTS is an insult to the DTS.

And quit putting the gas filler on the passenger side of all new cars. The right side is what I call the commie car side. Most cars manufactured by former WWII enemies put the filler on the right side.

90Brougham350
10-07-06, 09:57 AM
Why ruin a quarter-panel when behind the license plate works great!

CadillacGurl
10-07-06, 03:36 PM
Please bring the Eldo Back! It would burst my bubble if it looks like a relative of the CTS. The XLR was suppose to take the place of the Eldorado? F-THAT! I'll take an Eldorado over an XLR anyday!

dp102288
10-08-06, 07:58 AM
The price of the XLR puts it out of the range that was targeted by Eldorado buyers. Although they may have wanted the XLR to take its place, financially, that is impossible because of the current XLR pricing.

Greer/Dallas
12-07-06, 11:31 AM
I was very upset myself that the Eldorado had been scrapped for the current line that replaced it. I have a 93' touring coupe now with the 1st gen computer and it is awsome. I also owned a 01' with the 3rd gen computer and noticed a big difference in the computers. The 3rd gen computer didn't have near the pickup or torque of the 1st gen. and I felt with each new gen. they were slowy deteriorating the quality of the Eldarado. So I started to look at other types of cars too but, decided to restore my 93' instead. I'll buy my wife a BWM some other brand when it's time for another new vehicle.

dp102288
12-07-06, 07:55 PM
^^ By "computer" do you mean engine?

JRau
12-08-06, 08:14 PM
Why ruin a quarter-panel when behind the license plate works great!

We think alike, there, Brian! I like where they have our fuel filler! Never have to think which side to pull next to at the pumps!:)

JRau in central Iowa

Haleykeek
12-08-06, 11:37 PM
yeah!!!!!!! bring back the Eldorado name-plate.and build a DOHC V12 stuffed under the hood with classic 67 Eldorado tail-fins,and classic styling with hide-away headlights.that's what Cadillac should build.The XLR is a Corvette with Cadillac inspired design and NorthStar power.the Eldorado outlasted the Lincoln Mark VIII,Toronado,and Riviera.It was still a desired car.I'm with you all,Cadillac should bring back the Eldorado.

Phantom&RedGoat2004
12-09-06, 10:39 PM
I was considering a last-year Eldo, but the bank wouldn't finance a used one, so I bought a new GTO. I love Cadillac, but I had to have a V-8 coupe and Caddy couldn't deliver for under 40k.

dp102288
12-10-06, 08:33 PM
^^ Non-believer! Be gone!!!

j/k :D :p I really like the recent GTOs...lots of power for the money! :thumbsup:

Phantom&RedGoat2004
12-11-06, 07:15 PM
I would have bought an Eldo - I promise. I fell in love with my buddy's '70 that had cutom plates: "LDO ROD".

dp102288
12-12-06, 06:57 PM
^^ Just don't do it again! :p

Hey I love the GTOs! :thumbsup:

lbwd
05-01-07, 09:38 PM
I just don't want to continue seeing BMW's with Cadillac grilles, man.

dwight.j.carter
05-09-07, 11:54 AM
Have you guys seen pics of the 2009 CTS-V ? It is a two door coupe and I am thinking what B.S. that they didn't give that the eldo name if they are going with a two door !

70eldo
05-10-07, 03:49 AM
How is a Coupe CTC an Eldorado? Latest Eldorado was a 2 door version of an STS. In the 50's and 60's it was practically an ultralux version of a coupe deville and in '67-70 it was a Fleetwood class.
The closest they could get to an Eldorado on current platforms would be on a 2 door version of an STS. And I think most of the fans would like to see a unique comeback of the Eldorado though.

eldrewado
05-15-07, 02:21 AM
oh but they cant give it a real name its got to have a 3 letter designation so maybe it would be back to ETC, or perhaps to make it sound right the LDO or something (joking) i dont think they will bring it back until theres a big anniversary or something. not that they shouldn't of course. if they were to bring it back it would have to be really done right, or else id rather spend money restoring an older one. but perhaps picky guys like us aren't the market there after.

lbwd
05-15-07, 05:31 PM
All I really want is a Cadillac vehicle (particularly a sedan) that has high-class like they used to (1996 STS) that has performance and luxury. It's called "high end."

70eldo
05-19-07, 04:17 PM
How about an STC-V?

calarco3
07-25-07, 11:30 AM
The eldo needs to return to the the market it is as simple as that.

lbwd
07-25-07, 04:30 PM
The eldo needs to return to the the market it is as simple as that.

Check this out:
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-seville-cadillac-eldorado-forum/113082-future-cadillac-back-end-eldorado-s.html#post1155804

LetsDance
08-05-07, 01:14 PM
If Cadillac would bring back the Eldorado we would buy another one in a heartbeat ( We had a 2000 ). Caddy execs..........are you listening? Your consumers are telling you what we want, listen to us.

70eldo
08-06-07, 02:35 AM
Check this out:
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-seville-cadillac-eldorado-forum/113082-future-cadillac-back-end-eldorado-s.html#post1155804

It's an old article and the V12 has been denied by Bob Lutz and Holden (Australia). Though, the V12 would be the perfect answer in the Fleetwood and Eldorado class.

I think the project has merely been posponed, since they are merging the DTS and STS first.

Jim C
03-22-08, 07:41 PM
The coupe market is beginning to come back around.
It's time to bring the Eldorado (ETC) back to the market.
Don't miss the boat on this one guys.

Cadillac needs to Lead the market, not react too late and miss the boat.

The XLR may have been intended to replace the Eldorado, yet the pricing and small size doomed it's potential to fill the niche where a well executed, reasonably priced American sized luxury coupe could have been a hit.

Rear wheel drive is a must.

Thanks,
Jim

PAULSTSMAN1
03-24-08, 03:21 AM
This is a concept published in a magazne some months ago. I recently found it on the internet, it is a drawing of a concept car that was seen in clay at the GM Design Studios. Apparently it is an uplevel Cadillac Coupe E8 or E12. The similarity to the Bentley design is unmistakable, as was the 100K price mentioned in the article. Willl it ever be built? But we can dream, can't we.

Katshot
03-24-08, 09:02 AM
Would probably sell but not with that kind of price tag IMO. Would LOVE to see some "heritage" models come back to Cadillac's lineup. But unfortunately, a $100,000 Cadillac is like a $30,000+ Hyundai, most people just won't go for it. Perceptions about a marque impose price limits, and I don't think anybody outside GM's corporate offices sees Cadillac competing in the $100,000 market right now (or anytime soon!).

PAULSTSMAN1
03-25-08, 06:45 AM
Katshot

We need to consider the dollar situation, today the USA dollar is .15 of what it was in 1960. In 1960 dollars an item that would have cost $13500 now costs approximately (didn't use my work spreadsheet, just ball parking) $105,000. This is what inflation does, why do you think that $35,000 house is now selling for $550, 000, is it because one spent $10,000 on the bathroom, or 25,000 on the Kitchen?

By the way in case you didn't realize it Cadillac has been selling the 2 seat XLR V, it sells for about $106,000, and it doesn't have a backseat!

pompste
08-16-08, 09:10 PM
Cadillac is more worried about people who buy German Luxury cars than keeping people who love Cadillacs happy. They need to bring back Eldorado and Fleetwood. And quit calling the Deville a DTS!

Absolutely 100% correct! There was a time when Cadillac was the "leader" in the luxury car category.Cadillac is now a "follower".
I know many current/past Caddy luxury car owners who don`t like the "alphabet soup" names for current Caddy cars.
Many i know really want the Eldorado & Fleetwood back also.

gothicaleigh
08-18-08, 03:08 PM
Here's your Eldorado:

http://jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/03/2008-Cadillac-CTS-Coupe-Concept.jpg



This is the que for everyone driving Cadillacs from a decade ago to complain. If you are honest though, the old Eldo has nothing on the new CTS coupe. The CTC is more powerful, better handling, comes equipped with a better interior made from better materials, and is actually competitive with other cars in it's class.


...I'm sorry, but they're not bringing the name back.

Newmonarch
08-24-08, 03:50 PM
But there is a problem...Cadillac is in now "Art&Science" Era and all cars are designing with only ruler. But Eldorado was aesthetic car, 1950 to 2002, it wasnt changed. It is like a wine, I dont know you use this term for cars or not, but Eldorado was like Dream car. But modern Cadillac's are looking very rough and though. Evem 2002 Eldorado is looks much better than Mk1 CTS I think. MK2 is much better looking but Eldorado is better. In fact, Eldorado was the way more luxury and bigger than modern CTS. In 2002, It has got front massaging seats on upper equipment package. In 2008, yes Cadillac CTS has got 30 Gb Hdd, Head up display, but its because of year 2008... ( It is about technology, but using massaging seats on a car cost higher than those ) .

Xlr and XLR-V series are good. But XLR is designed to be a roadster and its smaller than Eldorado, and very very small. It is like European car with its 4.4 meter length. I think the Eldorado's only problem was its FWD platform, not another thing. ( Except Northstar engine, I heard it has not got modify capabilities , 300 hp is not so much for that kind of a car I think , and also It has got low torque for 32 valve 4.6 . Bmw's 286 Hp 4.4 liter engine can produce 440 nm.

artscadillac
01-07-09, 01:51 AM
I had 1993, 96, 98 and 2001 Eldorado ETC's and it has been my favorite car. I now have a 2007 CTS with FE3.

If the Eldorado ETC was still here, it would be a 2 door version of the STS.

If Cadillac was going to bring back the Eldorado name, it would most likely be the CTS COUPE.

70eldo
01-07-09, 09:06 AM
This is a concept published in a magazne some months ago. I recently found it on the internet, it is a drawing of a concept car that was seen in clay at the GM Design Studios. Apparently it is an uplevel Cadillac Coupe E8 or E12. The similarity to the Bentley design is unmistakable, as was the 100K price mentioned in the article. Willl it ever be built? But we can dream, can't we.

That looks most likely in the direction of a might-Eldorado!
Never will a CTS or STS coupe be an Eldorado, as the Eldorado, when it will be re-vived, should be the flagship of Cadillac. Therefore it will be a 2-Door DTS-based platform with V8 and V10 engine. Like the size of the BMW 6-series or Mercedes SLK.

BTW, if Cadillac is following, then who is leading exactly? It is you yourself who compare to other brands to find similarities, although all Cadillac models are distinctively different from the competition in many positive ways. At least in my eyes...

I guess I start 2009 with a fresh vision :halo:

larrydak
03-25-09, 04:19 PM
The fact of the matter is GM screwed up getting rid of the Eldorado and building there high priced SUV's. BRING BACK THE ELDORADO it is an American icn for what a 2 door coupe should look like and drive.