: Got My First Ticket in 21 years



GT04CTS-V
09-05-05, 07:38 PM
I was driving through Mount Airy, MD and I saw two Maryland State Police cars, one on each side of the road. I checked my speed, was doing 25 mph. The speed limit was 30. The cop pointed at the V and motioned for me to pull over. He then told me that I was pulled over for not having a front license plate. He asked for my license and registration and asked if it was my car. I thought to myself, is this a trick question? I just gave you my license and registration and guess what, the names match - - Dufus.

He returned to the car with a ticket for $55. What a piece of crap, no warning. He told me that they were checking for seat belt violations. Stinking revenue cops - - - I then asked him what the speed limit was - he told me that he had no idea.

I asked if I had to take the car to an inspection station to verify that the tag was installed. He said, nope, just pay the ticket. He also mentioned that I could get pulled over on the way home for not having the front tag. I said, Do you mean that your bud on the other side of the road could pull me over again - He respond - yep, but most likely wouldn't.

The funny thing is I have no idea how to mount a front tag on the V, not to mention that it detracts from the look.

I left with a nice roar of the Maggie and Magnflows. Man - Thanks to officers like him, the road is a much safer place. :banghead:

heavymetals
09-05-05, 07:54 PM
Your lucky you didn't get a real *****.

That gives them probable cause.:annoyed:

Next question is "Do you mind if I search your car?":banghead:

keeksv
09-05-05, 08:45 PM
Not sure how to mount a front tag without screwing up the front bumper, but mine had a place for a front tag when I bought it. IMHO, it's not worth not putting a front tag in MD--don't give them any reason for pulling you over...and don't even think of driving anywhere here on the Eastern Shore if your car doesn't have a front tag..unless you want to see what traffic court over here is like. Just go to the Cadillac dealer and buy the plate holder--I'm sure it just screws right into the bumper cover directly, but I can check if you want.

BTW, LOTS of police around today, in every kind of vehicle you could imagine--never seen anything like it...:bonkers:

6104696
09-05-05, 09:19 PM
Not sure how to mount a front tag without screwing up the front bumper, but mine had a place for a front tag when I bought it. IMHO, it's not worth not putting a front tag in MD--don't give them any reason for pulling you over...and don't even think of driving anywhere here on the Eastern Shore if your car doesn't have a front tag..unless you want to see what traffic court over here is like. Just go to the Cadillac dealer and buy the plate holder--I'm sure it just screws right into the bumper cover directly, but I can check if you want.

BTW, LOTS of police around today, in every kind of vehicle you could imagine--never seen anything like it...:bonkers:

There are lots of threads about front plates on this forum, including discussions about the stock mounting and alternate (no holes) mountings, and the risks and rewards of driving without a front plate in a "front plate" state.

I live in a front plate state, my front plate is in the trunk....I don't drink and drive and haven't had so much as a pot seed in one of my cars in over 20 years (to my knowledge) ....so I'll risk it.

joshdctsv
09-05-05, 10:17 PM
Just pay it and move on. I got one in the V and one every other year for the Vette. If you're willing to pay good money for mods, you're willing to pay $50 not to ruin your bumper.

FYI, Texas finally gave up this year and went down to one license plate. Someone decided they could save money that way. :bouncy:

GT04CTS-V
09-05-05, 10:20 PM
Just pay it and move on. I got one in the V and one every other year for the Vette. If you're willing to pay good money for mods, you're willing to pay $50 not to ruin your bumper.

FYI, Texas finally gave up this year and went down to one license plate. Someone decided they could save money that way. :bouncy:


Agree - My feelings exactly.

GT

crowan
09-05-05, 10:30 PM
The federal government makes the states show that they are enforcing certain safety laws (seat belts, DWI etc.) as a condition of getting federal highway money, hence the periodic enforcement spikes from time to time. Labor day weekend is a traditional time for major traffic enforcement operations.

If points are not involved and the fine is $55, I would pay it immediately and forget about it. If you drill holes in your bumper, you will be annoyed for as long as you own the car. Consider it the cost of keeping your car looking good, like periodic detailing.

CR

cdog533
09-05-05, 11:22 PM
Yeah, about once every year I get the trifecta: No front plate, tinted windows, no seatbelt. It's $225 but worth it to express my own sense of personal freedom.

Just consider it a "cool guy" tax. For being a cool guy, you have to pay $250 or so in tax. Or in your case, maybe $50 a year -- a real bargain.

AmesCTS-V
09-05-05, 11:52 PM
I got pulled over for no plate in my Silvy SS. No ticket, just a written warning. I really don't see a point in the front plate law.

BliTzer
09-06-05, 12:29 AM
Get that new retractable front plate holder.. leave off.. if ya get pulled over flip the switch.. when they walk too the front it will go like this... my mistake sir, thought you didnt have one.. have a good day.. lol

I seen em on ebay too... they look pretty cool. if i had to have a front plate, thats the one i would use... looks like you dont have one, until you need it.

latr blitzer

AmesCTS-V
09-06-05, 12:40 AM
blitzer, you got links? I'm looking on ebay but only finding chopper ones. Sounds interesting.

Dave's V
09-06-05, 12:41 AM
Cops never seem to pull you over when you have extra time so why give them a reason to pull you over in the first place. First they pull you over for no plate, then they tell you were five over, check your registration and license, check your car for anything remotely illegal (you be surprised what they can use in this catagory). I got pulled over before my perm plate came in because I didn't have a front plate mount. The cop wasted 1/2 hour of my time but was clearly looking for DWI or other infractions.

Don't give them a reason to waste your time.

benjet
09-06-05, 02:26 AM
Here in CA (where I got my no front plate tix) they tag you while parked, no hep having the front plate in the car with you ;)

Lovely.

BliTzer
09-06-05, 07:20 AM
Let me see if i can find it.. i just seen it like 2 weeks ago, there was several... Also how i found out about it, someone on this forum made a post about it.. might ought to post who knows info about retractable plate platform.
i will keep looking though, i will find it.

later blitzer

qweegybo
03-03-08, 11:54 PM
Here in CA (where I got my no front plate tix) they tag you while parked, no hep having the front plate in the car with you ;)

Lovely.

When imive back to cali, i plan on keeping my arkansas registration (business application) and they only give you one lisence plate. Will i still get a ticket in Cali even though i'm registered in Arkansas?

rdjiv
03-04-08, 01:51 AM
Nope, as long as you are registered with another state, you should be fine. I'm a FL resident (with the one plate) and haven't been bothered in MD, VA, or here in CA.

AirCav
03-04-08, 02:16 AM
I got pulled over for no plate in my Silvy SS. No ticket, just a written warning. I really don't see a point in the front plate law.It's a nice flat, conveniently located, reflective surface. It's where they aim the laser. In fact, some States have increased the reflective coating specifically for that reason.

(Oh, you meant that you couldn't think of a "legitimate" reason for a front plate?) :cool:

korizzle
03-04-08, 02:26 AM
When imive back to cali, i plan on keeping my arkansas registration (business application) and they only give you one lisence plate. Will i still get a ticket in Cali even though i'm registered in Arkansas?

yeah you most likely will...when i was living in arizona, while registered in arizona, with an arizona driver's license, i drove back to my parent's home in california one weekend and got pulled over and ticketed for window tint that is legal in az but illegal in ca...i dont remember the exact percentage...i think 35% tint - it was like 8 years ago. the cop said that it doesn't matter that i live in az...my car was illegal according to the state i was driving in, therefore, i can be (and was) cited.

btw...way to bring a thread back from the dead - you must have been reeeeeaaaally bored today :D

SkullV
03-04-08, 02:29 AM
yeah you most likely will...when i was living in arizona, while registered in arizona, with an arizona driver's license, i drove back to my parent's home in california one weekend and got pulled over and ticketed for window tint that is legal in az but illegal in ca...i dont remember the exact percentage...i think 35% tint - it was like 8 years ago. the cop said that it doesn't matter that i live in az...my car was illegal according to the state i was driving in, therefore, i can be (and was) cited.

btw...way to bring a thread back from the dead - you must have been reeeeeaaaally bored today :D

Wrong, you ABSOLUTELY will not get ticketed. I am from Indiana and spent the first 2 years of my driving career on the border between Indiana (only back plate) and Illinois (both plates) and have NEVER gotten ticketed. Window tint is a COMPLETELY different issue. I did however get ticketed in Illinois for having more then 6" of total sticker height on the back window of my Jeep!

MauiV
03-04-08, 02:40 AM
I was caught behind some 80 year old in a Q45 in the fast lane the other day when I see a truck ahead hit his brakes. Its a well known spot just past a rise that Troopers sit, so I always check my speed through there anyway. Grandpa slows to 66 in a 70 when he sees the cop and coasts by on a 3 lane Interstate. I on the other hand push in the clutch and throw some Corsa notes at him since he was nice enough to get out of the car and hold his radar like a bazooka, at a whopping 65 MPH. His head was on a swivel trying to figure out where it came from, since it couldnt have been that Cadillac.

Dicks.

korizzle
03-04-08, 03:15 AM
Wrong, you ABSOLUTELY will not get ticketed. I am from Indiana and spent the first 2 years of my driving career on the border between Indiana (only back plate) and Illinois (both plates) and have NEVER gotten ticketed. Window tint is a COMPLETELY different issue. I did however get ticketed in Illinois for having more then 6" of total sticker height on the back window of my Jeep!

with all due repect, skull, cali is a whole different animal when it comes to automobile restrictions...this state (i moved back here 7 years ago - brief stint in az, haha) goes out if its way to screw everyone on the road. you might be right, and perhaps window tint and front plates will be treated differently, but i don't think so and wouldn't risk it - the last thing you want is to have a couple beers after work, not be drunk but possibly flirtin with the legal limit, and then get pulled over for not having a front plate even though you thought your out of state registration was your shield.

cop told me that no matter where you're registered, you're driving within the jurisdiction of a state's law, therefore you're subject to that state's law. just as i violated ca law with my window tint, a missing front plate is a violation as well - and if the cop wants to be a dick about it, it seems to me that one could be cited.

quick google search: http://blog.wired.com/cars/2006/03/no_plate_great_.html

check out the last post on this blog...looks like this guy from tx with tx plates driving in ca got busted for no front plates...which lead to other troubles. looks like you only have 10 days of being in ca with the other registration before you can have your car impounded!

sorry skull, but it looks like in ca, you will get busted for no front plate, regardless of where you're from...i do trust your word about indiana and illinois however. i've never been though, so i have no experience with the laws there.

thebigjimsho
03-04-08, 09:55 AM
with all due repect, skull, cali is a whole different animal when it comes to automobile restrictions...this state (i moved back here 7 years ago - brief stint in az, haha) goes out if its way to screw everyone on the road. you might be right, and perhaps window tint and front plates will be treated differently, but i don't think so and wouldn't risk it - the last thing you want is to have a couple beers after work, not be drunk but possibly flirtin with the legal limit, and then get pulled over for not having a front plate even though you thought your out of state registration was your shield.

cop told me that no matter where you're registered, you're driving within the jurisdiction of a state's law, therefore you're subject to that state's law. just as i violated ca law with my window tint, a missing front plate is a violation as well - and if the cop wants to be a dick about it, it seems to me that one could be cited.

quick google search: http://blog.wired.com/cars/2006/03/no_plate_great_.html

check out the last post on this blog...looks like this guy from tx with tx plates driving in ca got busted for no front plates...which lead to other troubles. looks like you only have 10 days of being in ca with the other registration before you can have your car impounded!

sorry skull, but it looks like in ca, you will get busted for no front plate, regardless of where you're from...i do trust your word about indiana and illinois however. i've never been though, so i have no experience with the laws there.Dude, you can't be serious. What, are you suppose to get a California plate at the border as you enter the state? That makes no sense. Tint is one thing because it is a modification and each state has its regulations. But the if the car is registered in a one plate state, they can not give you a ticket for one plate.

thebigjimsho
03-04-08, 10:00 AM
Additionally, your post of that google search and the guy from Texas has more to do with a question as to residence since he had spent a few months in California. It doesn't say that if he was just a Texas resident vacationing or driving through the area that he would still be responsible...

LUVMY04V
03-04-08, 10:06 AM
On my old cts i got a "fix-a-ticket" basically you just had to bring it down to the station and show them that you mounted it....I got some weather stripping and two bolts and washers and bolted it on for an hour. Went to show them i fixed it. But the funny thing was the cop didnt even look at it he just asked me if i did. I said yes and he singed the ticket and it was over LOL.

Natedog
03-04-08, 01:04 PM
ehhh.. at least u didn't get pulled for going 114, then get a 'not displaying front plate' AND tint ticket on top of that... VA is the worst:banghead:

korizzle
03-04-08, 01:13 PM
Dude, you can't be serious. What, are you suppose to get a California plate at the border as you enter the state? That makes no sense. Tint is one thing because it is a modification and each state has its regulations. But the if the car is registered in a one plate state, they can not give you a ticket for one plate.

i agree that it's ridiculous, but the point of that quote was just to show that a guy with a car registered out of state was pulled over for not having a front plate - that means, that it is still a violation in ca to drive with no front plate regardless of where you are registered.

you're right, jim, that guy is talking about spending a long time in the state, not just a brief trip or something...but...that is irrelevant. he was ultimately slammed because he hadn't registered his car within the 10 allowed days - if you're only there for 9 days, for example, you don't have to worry about it, but it appears that you are still subject to california vehicle code - hence he was pulled over for something so frivolous as not having a front plate.

also, let's not forget, i was told by the ******* cop that pulled me over that it doesn't matter where my car and i call home, when in california, if i'm violating their law, i can be cited.

korizzle
03-04-08, 01:16 PM
On my old cts i got a "fix-a-ticket" basically you just had to bring it down to the station and show them that you mounted it....I got some weather stripping and two bolts and washers and bolted it on for an hour. Went to show them i fixed it. But the funny thing was the cop didnt even look at it he just asked me if i did. I said yes and he singed the ticket and it was over LOL.

haha, same thing happened to me a couple years ago with my exhaust! ticketed for it being too loud so i went to a muffler shop had it changed (bought the car with the loud exhaust) to something quiet...took it to be verified and no one even looked at it. pissed me off actually.

trukk
03-04-08, 02:30 PM
Holy Thread resurection Batman.

Gary sold his V like 2 years ago. Hell Blitzer posted in this thread :D (ahh the good old days).

-Chris

Kudos for using search though.

keeksv
03-04-08, 03:40 PM
Holy Thread resurection Batman.

Gary sold his V like 2 years ago. Hell Blitzer posted in this thread :D (ahh the good old days).

-Chris

Kudos for using search though.
...good times, good times...

trukk
03-04-08, 03:59 PM
...good times, good times...

Try my Schwetty Balls....:D

-Chris

thebigjimsho
03-04-08, 05:28 PM
i agree that it's ridiculous, but the point of that quote was just to show that a guy with a car registered out of state was pulled over for not having a front plate - that means, that it is still a violation in ca to drive with no front plate regardless of where you are registered.

you're right, jim, that guy is talking about spending a long time in the state, not just a brief trip or something...but...that is irrelevant. he was ultimately slammed because he hadn't registered his car within the 10 allowed days - if you're only there for 9 days, for example, you don't have to worry about it, but it appears that you are still subject to california vehicle code - hence he was pulled over for something so frivolous as not having a front plate.

also, let's not forget, i was told by the ******* cop that pulled me over that it doesn't matter where my car and i call home, when in california, if i'm violating their law, i can be cited.But you're missing the point. California law dictates that cars registered in that state, or that should be, need to have 2 plates. It is NOT state law for out of state vehicles to have them...

korizzle
03-04-08, 06:21 PM
But you're missing the point. California law dictates that cars registered in that state, or that should be, need to have 2 plates. It is NOT state law for out of state vehicles to have them...

i'm sorry jim, but i certainly am not missing any point.

1. here is qweegybo's post that sparked this converstation:

"When imive back to cali, i plan on keeping my arkansas registration (business application) and they only give you one lisence plate. Will i still get a ticket in Cali even though i'm registered in Arkansas?"

i believe "imive" means 'i move'. so, it is my understanding that we are talking about a vehicle that "should be", as you put it, registered in ca...meaning it will be here longer than the grace period allows.

2. the link i provided merely showed an instance where someone with out of state registration (texas plate) was pulled over for only having one plate. the officer that pulled him over had no idea how long he'd been in ca yet - all he knew was that the car was missing a plate and from texas. he was pulled over for having 1 plate and not 2 - the cop could clearly see that the plate was a texas plate - i'm just trying to be clear here.

3. here it is again; i was told by a cop that it didn't matter that my car was registered in az...if i am in ca and violating ca law, i can be cited. most cops aren't going to be jerks about it, but that apparently that doesn't mean they can't cite you. let me be even more clear...i am only sharing with everyone what i was told. i hope that i have been misinformed. logic is not on the side of his words, i understand that - i was shocked when he told me i was in the wrong.

i haven't read through the wording of the law, but perhaps you have and that's where you're information is coming from. if that is the case, then it looks like what you have is a solid argument that you shouldn't be ticketed if this ever happens to you...but that may not stop a cop (or even parking enforcement officers) from issuing a fix it ticket...or at least pulling you over for it. hell, i could see a cop using it as a reason to pull you over and then just letting you go, but using that plate issue as an excuse to check you for anything major (drugs, drinking, etc.)

korizzle
03-04-08, 06:46 PM
hey jim, you'll be glad to know...

i just got off the phone with my cousin (he's a chp in central ca - fresno) and he told me that you technically can't be cited for not having a front plate if you're from another state that doesn't require it. if an ignorant officer does give you a ticket for it, it will be thrown out after the fact. but, if your state does require a front plate, then your citation will be enforced.

he suggested that people who do a lot of interstate driving print out a copy of the vehicle code section from your state and keep it with your registration...that way if the cop that stops you isn't familiar with the laws of your state he can use your reference as a guide to make a better decision.

he did also mention that he couldn't care less about front plates (ca or otherwise), but he says that he knows of officers use it as a tool to check for other bigger infractions...haha much like i mentioned before.

sooooo...if you're gonna be in california, probably should just put a plate on and avoid and potential trouble. to each his own though - i will always have dark tinted windows...until they make it an arrestable offense! :thumbsup:

looks like the cop that pulled me over was only correct about the tint and used too general of a statment!:want:

CTSV_510
03-04-08, 07:16 PM
wow you sure used a lot of words just to say, "Jim's right."

:lol:

korizzle
03-04-08, 08:16 PM
wow you sure used a lot of words just to say, "Jim's right."

:lol:

:hide: haha, you noticed that, eh!

stupid cop all those years ago made me go out of my way to try and prove a point that was incorrect. i feel so violated.

thebigjimsho
03-05-08, 12:56 AM
hey jim, you'll be glad to know...

i just got off the phone with my cousin (he's a chp in central ca - fresno) and he told me that you technically can't be cited for not having a front plate if you're from another state that doesn't require it. if an ignorant officer does give you a ticket for it, it will be thrown out after the fact. but, if your state does require a front plate, then your citation will be enforced.

he suggested that people who do a lot of interstate driving print out a copy of the vehicle code section from your state and keep it with your registration...that way if the cop that stops you isn't familiar with the laws of your state he can use your reference as a guide to make a better decision.

he did also mention that he couldn't care less about front plates (ca or otherwise), but he says that he knows of officers use it as a tool to check for other bigger infractions...haha much like i mentioned before.

sooooo...if you're gonna be in california, probably should just put a plate on and avoid and potential trouble. to each his own though - i will always have dark tinted windows...until they make it an arrestable offense! :thumbsup:

looks like the cop that pulled me over was only correct about the tint and used too general of a statment!:want:That's cool that you went through the trouble of finding out. I guess I was going lawyer speak earlier. I know cops who bust balls to find ANYTHING during a stop that they can nail you on. And not having a front plate in a state that requires such is eye catching.

But ultimately, it's unenforceable...

z06bigbird
03-05-08, 01:15 AM
Just pay it and move on. I got one in the V and one every other year for the Vette. If you're willing to pay good money for mods, you're willing to pay $50 not to ruin your bumper.

FYI, Texas finally gave up this year and went down to one license plate. Someone decided they could save money that way. :bouncy:

Pretend that ticket was for the 50 other times you (and I) were speeding. Your number came up. You did not have a front tag. So, what do you do??? Take it out verbally (here) on the cop. Man up. Admit your mistake. Cops have a job to do. Some cops (like me and you) are good and bad.

If this is the worst thing that happens to you in life, consider yourself very lucky.

thebigjimsho
03-05-08, 12:45 PM
Nothing bad can come out of being quiet and obedient to a cop. The best thing for your ultimate outcome is to shut up and do whatever the cop says. I give him nothing to remember me by or reason to come to court to face me. If he gives an obvious open to talk my way out, I may try. Otherwise, it's all in the courts for me.

Whenever I get pulled over, I fight the ticket. But I don't fight the cop. That comes back to bite your arse. I go through what the law makes available to me. If and when I get the cop on the stand, I pepper him(or her) with questions that may twist his words or show his procedures were not to protocol. When they're on the stand is when you get your aggression out.

That is, if it ever goes that far. Which happens in Massachusetts maybe 1 out of 8 times. A couple times, the cop never bothered to file the paperwork.


Funny story about being nice to a cop:

I was in my hometown and myself and some friends were at a Chinese restaurant. Afterward, we were outside shooting the breeze. It was not long after July 4th and someone had a couple bottle rockets. So we waited for traffic to clear and launched one along the ground out of the parking lot. Well, as we were lighting the fuse, a local cop had turned down the street. I freaked. The rocket was aimed right in his path! I stomped my foot to trap it, but just as I was stomping down, it went off! It exploded right underneath the officer's car...OMG!!! It was the dumbest thing I've ever done in my life.

Well, two of my buddies were from Vermont. The officer comes flying in flies right up to us. He comes out screaming and demanding ID. One didn't have his license on him. The other was asking why he needed to show ID when he didn't do anything. I just shyly give him my ID. Well, since he didn't like my friends attitudes, he went off on them. And they gave it back. The cop got so worked up he spent his energy threatening to take them to jail and how he didn't appreciate the attitude. Finally, my friends realized they were pushing it and everyone calmed down.

Once everyone calmed down, the officer just up and left. All he ever did was ask for my ID and give it back. The rest of the time I just watched the argument. I could have, and should have, been busted or cited for something, but I didn't. I always just shut up with cops...

NIK
03-05-08, 02:48 PM
hey jim, you'll be glad to know...

soooo...if you're gonna be in california, probably should just put a plate on and avoid and potential trouble. to each his own though - i will always have dark tinted windows...until they make it an arrestable offense! :thumbsup:

l

If you're from a state that doesn't require a front plate (PA where I'm from)
just where and how are you supposed to get another plate to put on the front? Just asking - this seems to be a very stupid issue. They would ticket a tourist for abiding by his own state law?

thebigjimsho
03-05-08, 03:20 PM
If you're from a state that doesn't require a front plate (PA where I'm from)
just where and how are you supposed to get another plate to put on the front? Just asking - this seems to be a very stupid issue. They would ticket a tourist for abiding by his own state law?Check out post #33...

korizzle
03-05-08, 03:40 PM
If you're from a state that doesn't require a front plate (PA where I'm from)
just where and how are you supposed to get another plate to put on the front? Just asking - this seems to be a very stupid issue. They would ticket a tourist for abiding by his own state law?

don't they give you two plates to being with?

but regardless, it turns outs that if you are cited for not having a front plate, it will be dismissed because PA doesn't require it. the only issue is possibly getting harassed by a cop who is using the "no front plate" as a reason to pull you over in hopes that he can bust you for something else.