If you found the car you've always dreamed of and it was available in near-mint condition with only 15,000 miles on it, would you pay what the person was asking even if it was well above a car which might come on the market in the near future?

My dream car is a white 1991 or 1992 Brougham with white leather interior. The one I found a few provinces away is going for $12,000 US, has the 5.7 engine, has only 15,000 miles and is all original except for recently changed shocks and springs (not sure why they needed changing). Also has the rare wire wheels (which I would likely sell since I don't care for them) and an E&G grill, which I would also sell since I prefer the original grill. Pioneer speakers were installed as well.

I'm sure in the weeks and months to come, as I look for a car, I'll encounter other good buys, but I guess I'm afraid I won't soon find a car exactly as I like it. What would you do? Wait for something similar for less, or make a close offer above what you might get otherwise? I'm sure the car would be appriased for around that much.

How often are White on White 1991s and 1992s 5.7 Broughams available on the market? :bigroll:

If you can afford it and that is what you dream of then I see no reason why not to get it really and if you can research the mileage first just to make sure its all original then it doesnt get any better.

usually shocks fail with time they will start to leak regardless of their usage the rubber detoriates causing leaks so that could be one reason for me shocks only last about 3 years or 30000 miles then they don't perform as well.

3y or 30K, wow! You are easy on shocks! I seem to get a new shock to perform well for around 5K and I am then unhappy with them. They are firm and controlled for such a short time.

I guess Bilstiens are next for me....The 200K+ shock....

3y or 30K, wow! You are easy on shocks! I seem to get a new shock to perform well for around 5K and I am then unhappy with them. They are firm and controlled for such a short time.

I guess Bilstiens are next for me....The 200K+ shock.... Bilstiens are typically at 90%+ efficiency after 200,000 miles. Well worth the $$.

Caddieboy, by all means, if that is your hearts desire and that you are comfortable with the $$, then go for it. But don't pay to much if you don't think it is worth that. I have found often cars with low miles aren't always the more reliable, they still are aged, and that comes with a price too. Dried up seals, dry rotted hoses and tires, etc. so remember, just because it is "new" by the odometer, it isn't a new ride.

Hope it all works good for you! Sounds like a nice ride!

Is $12,000 too much? If you found the car you've always dreamed of and it was available in near-mint condition with only 15,000 miles on it, would you pay what the person was asking even if it was well above a car which might come on the market in the near future?


lol, if I found a 1959 Eldorado Biarritz, mint, with 15,000 miles... yeah, I'd pay $12,000 :)

but, anyway, that does seem high, then again, maybe not for that car, and if it is the car you want, and you have the money, then I'd say go for it.

Car is worth whatever someone will pay for it. If you will keep the car I say go for it. It should last you a long time.

A 91 Brougham for 12k? That's a very high price, even with those miles... 6k would be a much closer price for the age... Especially since gas is so expensive. For 12k, could get a brand new car...

3y or 30K, wow! You are easy on shocks! I seem to get a new shock to perform well for around 5K and I am then unhappy with them. They are firm and controlled for such a short time.

I guess Bilstiens are next for me....The 200K+ shock....

I love bilsteins they are just so damn expensive i had some in a suburban and they were great but i had to remove them to add some air shocks instead because the truck would sag in the back with a heavy load but they worked fine otherwise.

usually for me 30k is a nice average ive had with shocks but on my caddy my last set i only liked them for about 2 yrs. after that i just had them another year because i was too lazy to change them out sooner.

most shocks do seem to only last a while then they start to get loose but they still serve their purpose :rolleyes:

I know which car you're talking about. D 'Elegance with blue carpets and dash right? The guy also has a 5.0 91 for sale. I'm just curious where this guy got these and why he's selling for top dollar?

I think I know which car you're talking about. D' elegance with the blue carpets and dash right? He's got a 5.0 91 for sale to. Where'd he get these 2 beauties and why's he selling for topmost dollar?

If you do buy and want to sell the wires let me know.

If you can afford it and that is what you dream of then I see no reason why not to get it really and if you can research the mileage first just to make sure its all original then it doesnt get any better.

I just found out the owner wants $16,000 for the car. That's more than I'm willing to pay, even if it is my dream car. He feels this is a good "Actual" value of the car versus book value, considering the mileage. Even at such low mileage, I'm not sure the actual value is that high.

Caddieboy, by all means, if that is your hearts desire and that you are comfortable with the $$, then go for it. But don't pay to much if you don't think it is worth that. I have found often cars with low miles aren't always the more reliable, they still are aged, and that comes with a price too. Dried up seals, dry rotted hoses and tires, etc. so remember, just because it is "new" by the odometer, it isn't a new ride.

Hope it all works good for you! Sounds like a nice ride!

Considering the owner wants $16,000 for the car, I'm suddenly not sure I want it. I'd rather wait for a similar car with more mileage on it and pay less, even if it is my dream car. I'm not sure how to convince him it's worth the $11,000US I'd consider paying, based on seeing and driving the car, but I don't think we'll come to terms considering the large gap of what he thinks it's worth and what I think is an overly generous offer.

lol, if I found a 1959 Eldorado Biarritz, mint, with 15,000 miles... yeah, I'd pay $12,000 :)

but, anyway, that does seem high, then again, maybe not for that car, and if it is the car you want, and you have the money, then I'd say go for it.


How do you convince someone to take $11,000 when they're convinced it's worth $16,000? I assumed he'd sell for $12,000 or a bit less based on what I think is a generous offer. But apparently he wants much much more than that.

Car is worth whatever someone will pay for it. If you will keep the car I say go for it. It should last you a long time.

I wonder if anyone is willing to pay the $16,000 this owner wants. Seems high, but I guess there might be someone out there willing to pay that much for it. I'm willing to pay a quite generous sum of $11,000 for it, so there might be someone willing to pay more. I think I'm probably the best offer he'll get, so maybe it will work out. I'm not optimistic since he said I shouldn't be surprised that he's asking $16k if I know what book versus ACTUAL value is considering mileage.

*crosses fingers*

A 91 Brougham for 12k? That's a very high price, even with those miles... 6k would be a much closer price for the age... Especially since gas is so expensive. For 12k, could get a brand new car...

And it turns out he wants $16,000 for the car. That's $10,000 more than what you think is a good price for the car. So, I probably won't be buying it. The search continues!

If you do buy and want to sell the wires let me know.

I would probably keep the Wire Wheels. They've grown on me considerably. Very sharp!!!

I know which car you're talking about. D 'Elegance with blue carpets and dash right? The guy also has a 5.0 91 for sale. I'm just curious where this guy got these and why he's selling for top dollar?

I don't know why he's selling for top dollar. He certainly deserves a lot of money for keeping his car or cars in good shape, but I think he'll have a hard time finding someone willing to pay top dollar. I'm not one of them, even though I would love to buy the car.

I have a friend with a 90 or 89 Brougham, and if you offered him 11k, he'd probably be willing to drive it there, give you a bj, and turn over the keys to the car. It's got a new 307 in it with like 600 miles on the motor, and pretty fresh paint. (Under a year) What's the D'Elegance package you want have that the others don't? (I don't think his is D'Elegance.

Found out from him, his isn't a D'Elegance, and the only difference seems to be pillowtop seats... But you could convert that part, and slap some fake badges on it...

I have a friend with a 90 or 89 Brougham, and if you offered him 11k, he'd probably be willing to drive it there, give you a bj, and turn over the keys to the car. It's got a new 307 in it with like 600 miles on the motor, and pretty fresh paint. (Under a year) What's the D'Elegance package you want have that the others don't? (I don't think his is D'Elegance.


I'm looking for a 1991-1992 Brougham, (D'Elegance doesn't matter, it's just the type of seats really, and I don't care for the button seats compared to the stripe ones, but it's a moot point) qith the 5.7L engine. White body, white top, preferably silver trim, and white interior. Astroroof would be a bonus. Preferably auto-dimming rearview (too many escalades burning my retinas) and that's it. Not asking too much. I think if I bide my time I'll get the car I want.

The reason I'd be willing to pay $11,000 is the car is super far from needing an Engine rebuild (and probably wouldn't need one in my lifetime) and is exactly as I would have bought it if I was at the dealership ordering one. Any other Brougham, which is likely what I'll end up with because I don't see this car happening, I'd not pay nearly as much. So your friend's car probably won't do it for me. And as much as I like BJs, I prefer them from women. :cool2:

Ah well, if that's the case, go through auto-trader, and I'd actually go within 250 miles of zip code 32839. Orlando FL. Lot of old geezers still in this state. They love their caddies and lincolns.

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1991 Used Cadillac Brougham Sedan 12,000
Mileage $6,500
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1991 CADILLAC BROUGHAM, 4 door, white, blue interior, sedan, one perfect auto, class colec, very good cond, see it & want to buy it, everything perfec...
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1992 Used Cadillac Brougham Sedan 110
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1992 CADILLAC ELDORADO BROUGHAM, v8, auto, ac, p/seats, p/mirrors, p/windows, am/fm, air bags, abs, alarm, full leader/top.110k m digital gauge,piece ...
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1991 Used Cadillac Brougham Sedan 97,000
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1991 CADILLAC BROUGHAM, DeElegance Series, 97K mi, light blue w/dark blue leather, garaged, $2,800, 352-266-7618
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What you want is easy to find.

I HAVE A 91 DE ELEGANCE 350/TRIPPLE WHITE RED CARPET & DASH/ SUNROOF/ WIRE WHEELS/SUNROOF/EXCELENT CONDITION/ NO RUST NO DENTS/ NEVER WRECKED/
HAS THE CLASSIC GRILL BUT I HAVE THE ORIGINAL. E-MAIL ME AND I CAN SEND YOU PICS. mfdevito@hotmail.com

What you want is easy to find.

But those aren't what he wants. He said he wants a white one with white interior. It also doesn't say if they have the 5.7Litre engine or not and a lot of the time they don't.

But those aren't what he wants. He said he wants a white one with white interior. It also doesn't say if they have the 5.7Litre engine or not and a lot of the time they don't.

Quite often they don't say they have the 350 / 5.7 but they have the VIN. In that case, if the 8th digit is a 7 (1991 or 1992) then it's a 5.7. If it's an E it's the 5.0. I'm starting to realize that my offer of $11,000 was hasty. I've found what I want, minus the Astroroof for $4500. Snatched up mind you, but still, I think if I bide my time, I'll get a good price and also get the car I want.

Everyone I talk to who has a 5.7 says how rare it is. Certainly more rare than the 5.0, but if that's the only thing you care about, there are plenty gorgeous cars with a 5.7. Now I just need to find the one I want.

I HAVE A 91 DE ELEGANCE 350/TRIPPLE WHITE RED CARPET & DASH

Awe nuts! The red carpet and dash kinda ruin it for me. Why am I so freaking picky!?! I'm pickier with cars than with the ladies!!! Anyhoo, I emailed you and still interested in more info.

I wonder if my friend's 1990 blue dashboard would fit in the 91 you have. And then it's a matter of a carpet kit. :bigroll:

As a note, you can redye a lot of stuff, though darker colors. Additionally, you can get the exterior repainted...

As a note, you can redye a lot of stuff, though darker colors. Additionally, you can get the exterior repainted...

I considered repainting, but ultimately, the less work required, the better. It's always nice to have and keep a car rust free and with original paint. A really good paint job is hefty money, and I wouldn't get a cheap paint job. When I see bad paint jobs, it's just awful.

What types of things can be redyed?

Carpet, and dashboard vinyl or whatever that is. Plastics can be dyed/painted, though it doesn't always hold well.

As for paint, 2500 or so. If you took a mediocre caddy with a bum motor, bought the car at 2k, did the paint at 2500, and the motor at 3500, you'd 8500 for a fully setup car.

Yeah...12K is too much. Here's one with an LT 1 for $ 8,450.00. And it just happens to be for sale too !! Not White, but we could make believe...lol

http://www.cadillacforums.com/cadillac-classifieds/showproduct.php?product=888&sort=1&cat=8&page=1

Yeah...12K is too much. Here's one with an LT 1 for $ 8,450.00. And it just happens to be for sale too !! Not White, but we could make believe...lol

http://www.cadillacforums.com/cadillac-classifieds/showproduct.php?product=888&sort=1&cat=8&page=1

Not a big fan of the '94 unfortunately. :D

Carpet, and dashboard vinyl or whatever that is. Plastics can be dyed/painted, though it doesn't always hold well.

As for paint, 2500 or so. If you took a mediocre caddy with a bum motor, bought the car at 2k, did the paint at 2500, and the motor at 3500, you'd 8500 for a fully setup car.


That's the route I was going to take, but ultimately I decided it's easier and nicer to get exactly what I want than make what I want. I don't need the car tomorrow. :)

Awe nuts! The red carpet and dash kinda ruin it for me. Why am I so freaking picky!?! I'm pickier with cars than with the ladies!!! Anyhoo, I emailed you and still interested in more info.

I wonder if my friend's 1990 blue dashboard would fit in the 91 you have. And then it's a matter of a carpet kit. :bigroll:


The burgundy interior has grown on me. I've checked out some pix online and find it to be quite nice.