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AsAkAs
08-21-05, 02:54 PM
With the comming of the 2007 model year (which is supposed to be a redesign) How about we all voice our hopes and dreams for the next CTS. We know it's going to sport something like a Sixteen front end and styling cues. But what else do we want?

A more powerful engine, 280-300hp?
An All Wheel drive option?
More technology like Remote start/push button start, active steering headlights, adaptive cruise control?
A coupe model?
Convertible Model?


Tell us what you want to see in the new 2007 CTS.

Personally I'd like to see an AWD model, and a 6 speed automatic with paddle shifters as a part of the sport package

OldRoadDawg
08-21-05, 03:05 PM
I need those cooled/ventilated seats like are in the Escalades to keep my fat rear-end cool.
About 300 to 325 hp would be sweet.

RobertCTS
08-21-05, 03:08 PM
I like to have the "Heads Up Display" on the windshield. GM has had it for some time but not for the CTS. Yes, of course..MORE POWER!
MY brother's LS has an exit mode where the seat goes back and the steering raises up. Much more comfortable getting in & out of the car,

AsAkAs
08-21-05, 03:10 PM
I like to have the "Heads Up Display" on the windshield. GM has had it for some time but not for the CTS.

Yes to that! I had it in my grand prix and it is sorely missed now! Have you seen the 4 color one in the STS? It's gorgeous

RobertCTS
08-21-05, 03:25 PM
Yes to that! I had it in my grand prix and it is sorely missed now! Have you seen the 4 color one in the STS? It's gorgeous

Hmmm..another reason to look at the STS in 2007.;)

Yep, I too had DUD on my Pontiac GTP. I loved it!

J.E.T.
08-21-05, 04:31 PM
Supercharged engine..........400 hp minimum. Rain sensing wiper system like the STS has now. Maybe a little more room in the driver and passenger cabin, screw the backseat. MUST have more trunk space, that's an absolute must. All this for $30K.


JET

B Hoth
08-21-05, 04:45 PM
How about a fix of a couple of our regular gripes, like a parking brake located in the center console, key switch in the dash or like the XLR key in pocket push the button type. I wouldnt mind a volt and oil pressure gage in the dash cluster. 6-speed auto would be nice, hope they continue to offer the manual but make it a little easier to obtain. How about a V type package to option up to (exhaust, tire, suspension) without having to go to the V8 to get it. Dash and door trim similar the STS would be nice.Strut bracing for the engine wold be a nice touch there. Sorry is this too much two cents worth!:bonkers:

Krank
08-21-05, 04:59 PM
Hand E-brake, around the 275hp ballpark at the crank, keyless fob entry with remote start, heated/cooled seats, auto-leveling HID's that also rotate left and right to follow around corners as well as up and down to trace the road, a more aggressive sounding exhaust note, an even more tuned sport suspension package, new/wider tires are a must, and for the automatic to have paddle shifters as mentioned above with a racing gearbox somewhat like BMW's SMG or Ferrari's F1, with adjustable shift speeds and aggressiveness for the quickest shifts possible.

AsAkAs
08-21-05, 05:25 PM
Supercharged engine..........400 hp minimum. Rain sensing wiper system like the STS has now. Maybe a little more room in the driver and passenger cabin, screw the backseat. MUST have more trunk space, that's an absolute must. All this for $30K.


JET

That's stretching it a bit don't you think? lol 400hp minimum? not talking 07 cts-V here, just cts heh

Chuck C
08-21-05, 05:52 PM
35+ mpg, AWD, and 0-60 in under 6.0 (hybrid? yes.)

17" wheels standard, opt. 18"

Coupe and sedan offerings

Cleaner dash w/ a more luxurious feel

Chrome-tip duals

Roomier back seat

AsAkAs
08-21-05, 05:54 PM
(hybrid? yes.)



Hybrid option, good idea!!

ccclarke
08-22-05, 12:31 AM
How 'bout a rear deck lid that fully raises when you're hands are full and you need to put items in the trunk? Leather padded door armrests (similar to STS) would also be a nice touch.

BishopRuger
08-22-05, 11:10 AM
Well everything you guys have mentioned is great, I'd love all that but NO WAY is all that ever going to happen. Not for 30k.. May 55k

If we added all those things to the CTS it'll be just as or more expensive then the current STS and then the STS would be like 60k base, hahaha...

And no way should they put the e-brake in the center console, that just takes away from the refinement and beauty of the interior. Save that for a lesser car or for a race inspired car. Remeber this isnt a racer, its a sport LUXURY sedan. Luxury being the key word.

All it needs, imho, is better standards like
1. Rim and tire package like Chuck C mentioned, 17" standard w/18" opt
2. Better brake package
3. Standard Chrome tips
4. Std HID's (w/the active steering headlights as an opt)
Options:
1. Cooled/heated seats
2. V-style suspension (maybe as an upgrade on the sports package)
3. Rain sensing wipes
4. Push button start would be pretty cool
5. AWD

SilverCTS
08-22-05, 11:41 AM
Supercharged engine..........400 hp minimum. Rain sensing wiper system like the STS has now. Maybe a little more room in the driver and passenger cabin, screw the backseat. MUST have more trunk space, that's an absolute must. All this for $30K.


JET

CTS-V already has 400 hp.

SilverCTS
08-22-05, 11:52 AM
Well everything you guys have mentioned is great, I'd love all that but NO WAY is all that ever going to happen. Not for 30k.. May 55k

If we added all those things to the CTS it'll be just as or more expensive then the current STS and then the STS would be like 60k base, hahaha...

And no way should they put the e-brake in the center console, that just takes away from the refinement and beauty of the interior. Save that for a lesser car or for a race inspired car. Remeber this isnt a racer, its a sport LUXURY sedan. Luxury being the key word.

All it needs, imho, is better standards like
1. Rim and tire package like Chuck C mentioned, 17" standard w/18" opt
2. Better brake package
3. Standard Chrome tips
4. Std HID's (w/the active steering headlights as an opt)
Options:
1. Cooled/heated seats
2. V-style suspension (maybe as an upgrade on the sports package)
3. Rain sensing wipes
4. Push button start would be pretty cool
5. AWD

The price factor is a good point.

If you want the CTS to remain in the $35k to $45k price range, then you can't expect GM to throw everything in but the kitchen sink.

However, you could expect some of the following:

A little more horsepower, perhaps as much as 300hp
Touch screen Nav System
Redesigned instrumentation
AWD and a lot of the other stuff BishopRuger mentioned
If I were GM, I wouldn't mess around with the exterior styling, dimensions, or anything that radically changes the car.

If you want 400 hp, then buy a CTS-V. If you want a bigger car, then buy an STS. If you want a convertable, then maybe you should consider an XLR (assuming you can afford it).

I'm not sure about the hyrbrid idea...Let Chevy & Saturn sell Hybrids.

AsAkAs
08-22-05, 11:57 AM
I'm not sure about the hyrbrid idea...Let Chevy & Saturn sell Hybrids.


True price is an important point, but some of these options are on other cars of the Entry Luxury Class, yet lacking in ours for around the same price range.


As for the hybrid idea why not? Lexus is on the way to being the first luxury car maker with hybrid(s), and they're going to catch the sales first. Hybrids aren't just for bread and butter divisons or "green" divisions with small engines. The less fuel a car uses the better, but in this segment of the market, it has to do so without effective performance, reliability, luxurious operation (NVH)

Chuck C
08-22-05, 11:59 AM
How 'bout a rear deck lid that fully raises when you're hands are full and you need to put items in the trunk?

No doubt!

Bishop...now you're talkin. Those items would give the competitors a serious run for their money and it's realistic too. I think going after the German and Japanese luxury brands was ambitious for GM, and it has given Cadillac designers the motivation to produce the product line we have today. But it's not enough...most cars that compete (almost) directly with the CTS offer AWD. Halogen headlamp technology is yesterday's news. Standard HIDs are functionally better and make a statement about the forward direction of car design. 16" wheels do not belong on the CTS. Just like the G35 (does Acura TL have an 18" pkg?), standard 17" wheels w/ 18" option would make the CTS more competitive.


But this is the DREAM list....350hp supercharged, AWD, 18" wheels, V brakes, Xenons, hybrid making 50mpg all for $30,000. That would be a good start. ;)

AsAkAs
08-22-05, 12:01 PM
wheels w/ 18" option would make the CTS more competitive.


But this is the DREAM list....350hp supercharged, AWD, 18" wheels, V brakes, Xenons, hybrid making 50mpg all for $30,000. That would be a good start. ;)

We get the 18" option this year :thumbsup:

Yes, a dream list for certain, but a realistic one we hope

BishopRuger
08-22-05, 12:08 PM
Yeah its a dream but man I would like to see some of them come true. I'm looking forward to see how they use the Caddy sixteen style front end.

AccElan01
08-22-05, 12:25 PM
I've been told the CTS redesign is set for '08/'09. The Escalade will be redesigned for '07 and it's supposed to be incredible.

RobertCTS
08-22-05, 12:28 PM
I've been told the CTS redesign is set for '08/'09. The Escalade will be redesigned for '07 and it's supposed to be incredible. All previous posts have suggested 2007 is the year for new sheet metal for the CTS. There's even been some press to support that.

http://www.edmunds.com/future/2007/cadillac/cts/100512177/preview.html

Artist conception of the 2007 CTS.

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/images/Cadillac_cts_new.jpg

PAW 47
08-22-05, 01:18 PM
I for one would like a coupe in this the current body style the car would look killer. They want to go after BMW, kill the 330ci Coupe!!

I would love to have a paddel shifter for my slushbox...say along the lines of the triptronic design of the P-cars but with better programing!

I would also like a real sport/track model..lighter, stiffer suspension, wider tires, and no stablitrack, 300 hp.

Devil_concours
08-22-05, 01:39 PM
More power (possibly 300hp we've been hearing with new injection method) and lighter car. More reliable rear end and better interior.

BishopRuger
08-22-05, 02:08 PM
Robert, where did u find that picture ??

RobertCTS
08-22-05, 03:03 PM
Robert, where did u find that picture ??

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/spy-photos/spy-photos-2007-cadillac-ctsv-028566.php

AsAkAs
08-22-05, 03:27 PM
More reliable rear end

Hahahaha, no more getrag units! Please for the love of god!:thehand:

PAW 47
08-22-05, 04:08 PM
There are some of us that do not have issues with our rear ends..

RobertCTS
08-22-05, 05:37 PM
There are some of us that do not have issues with our rear ends..

Yes PAW, Rear ends are good! :yup:

Devil_concours
08-22-05, 09:03 PM
There are some of us that do not have issues with our rear ends..
but there is way too many people with rear end problems

CTS2800
08-22-05, 09:08 PM
A Turbo or Supercharger for the 2.8L.
A few less pounds.
Air vent for back seats via the center console.
Lower Trunck line.
Quieter engine.

Devil_concours
08-22-05, 09:14 PM
A Turbo or Supercharger for the 2.8L.
A few less pounds.
Air vent for back seats via the center console.
Lower Trunck line.
Quieter engine.
you probably won't see the turbo'ed version of the 2.8l since that will put it right near 3.6l. Lower trunk line also won't happen due to rwd.

iconic
08-23-05, 01:48 AM
300+ hp option
tighter sport package, stiffer & lower
leather replacing some of the plastic interior
cooled seats
paddle shifting on auto as mentioned before
pretty rear led's like the STS
nicer exhaust, no dinky tips
slightly more normal lug pattern on the wheels?
17's standard

RWD stays

Devil_concours
08-23-05, 09:16 AM
300+ hp option
tighter sport package, stiffer & lower
leather replacing some of the plastic interior
cooled seats
paddle shifting on auto as mentioned before
pretty rear led's like the STS
nicer exhaust, no dinky tips
slightly more normal lug pattern on the wheels?
17's standard

RWD stays

that bolt pattern is the same one gm has been using for quite some time and it probably won't change

SilverCTS
08-23-05, 11:52 AM
As for the hybrid idea why not?

I don't know. I guess some people think this would be a good idea. I'm just not sold on them yet.

Plus, the hybrid option will be expensive, much more so than AWD.

I heard that you'll need to keep your car for about 5 years before you start saving money.

I never keep cars longer than 3 years.

Devil_concours
08-23-05, 07:18 PM
I don't know. I guess some people think this would be a good idea. I'm just not sold on them yet.

Plus, the hybrid option will be expensive, much more so than AWD.

I heard that you'll need to keep your car for about 5 years before you start saving money.

I never keep cars longer than 3 years.
i'd rather have diesel than hybrid. More efficient and plenty more torque.

Eld
08-24-05, 12:15 AM
300+ Sport pkg
Magnetic Shocks (Sport/Lux pkg)
Heated/Cooled seats
Paddleshifter
Interior that looks something like the new IS350

And maybe look something close to this
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5976/ctsbackground11zl.jpg
(I did not make this chop, just saw it on http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18861&page=2 Give cerdit were credit is due)

peccles
08-24-05, 02:28 PM
1. Weigh 100+ lbs less than current CTS without sacrificing interior space or trunk space.
2. Magnetic Ride Control shocks as an option
3. Adaptive forward lighting as an option.
4. Better stereo head unit. Should play MP3s from DVD/CD. Should be able to play DVD-A discs DVD DTS/Dolby 5.1 music. Should receive over the air digital radio broadcasts. Should have an aux input in front of head unit for MP3 player.
5. More HP and torque without sacrificing mpg and possibly improving it.

AccElan01
08-24-05, 03:37 PM
Several posters have mentioned there is no way we're getting these features for $35k. I beg to differ; the 2006 Toyota Avalon and even the new Nissan Maxima's have many of these features with the $35k price tag. Cadillac needs to do the same for us.

Devil_concours
08-24-05, 07:34 PM
Several posters have mentioned there is no way we're getting these features for $35k. I beg to differ; the 2006 Toyota Avalon and even the new Nissan Maxima's have many of these features with the $35k price tag. Cadillac needs to do the same for us.
it's because you're paying for the name plate.

EasyCTS
08-25-05, 02:19 AM
1. Weight -100 lbs.
2. Magnetic Ride Control option
3. Adaptive forward lighting as an option.
4. Better stereo head unit. Should play MP3s from DVD/CD. Should be able to play DVD-A discs DVD DTS/Dolby 5.1 music. Should receive over the air digital radio broadcasts. Should have an aux input in front of head unit for MP3 player.
5. More HP and torque without sacrificing mpg and possibly improving it.
- Weight Drop - Yes!
- Magnetic Ride Control - I like it on my Vette and would sure like it on my CTS
- Stereo Head - I'd appreciate playing my DVD-As and SACDs in the CTS environment on long drives. An Aux input on the front would be a big plus!
- 275-300 HP would be sweet
- Ignition on the dash - Nice on my Vette - beats having to look stupid when I miss putting the key into the column key slot (hidden by the steering wheel)
- Heads up Display - something I take for granted in the 'Vette.
- keep the volume wheel on the steering wheel - faster up and down with greater control than up/down buttons
- Does anyone else think that fingerprints on trunk shelf below the license plate look tacky on Cadillac?
- 1" drop for the Sport model !!!

Devil_concours
08-25-05, 03:17 AM
Here is my revised list

-Target curve weight should be no more than 3400lbs for manual and 3450lbs for auto
-5+spd auto with manual control (SMG would be better)
-300hp v6 minimum
-Better interior material. I like the current layout but i just hate the plastic used
-Remote starter
-Multimode magnetic ride control with height control (Sports - lower and firmer, cruise - regular height and soft ride, Semi-sports - firm and high or low and soft)
-MP3 capable stereo with aux input for portable mp3, laptop, psp, pda....
-Xenon light standard
-Appearence pacakge (spoiler, chin spoiler, side skirt, 18" or 19" wheels)