: I'm 17 and I have an $8.00 an hour job, Can I afford a Caddy?



eldorado99
07-21-05, 02:31 AM
I know you guys all love your Caddies, I feel just the same... Or I would if I had one. Caddies are it for me, they... well you all know what I'm talking about. :coolgleam Anyway my dilemna is that I could buy one of the used Cadillacs around here (I'm thinking mid-late seventies Eldorado or Coupe DeVille) because they are fairly affordable (1000-3000 bucks) but... Can I afford to fuel the beast? Likely if I get a car from any of those years it will have a 500cid or 425cid, I have considered a few options such as driving conservatively and :lildevil:burning marked gas:lildevil: but they need premium gas dont they? I don't exactly drive a lot, maybe 500KM a month. Obviously I would be doing all my own mechanical work, so no worries on the fixit prices other than parts. Well anyways, how feasible is it for a Cadillac Stricken 17 year old to have a Gas Guzzlin' Eldorado or DeVille for a daily driver? I know if I do come home with one of these cars my dad will shake his head when I drive in, but he told me I can get one if I want but I will probably regret it.
PS: The Fond Cadillac Memories thread made it even harder to think about getting something else.:p

I~LUV~Caddys8792
07-21-05, 03:22 AM
well i get paid 7.45 an hour at my job, and i earn about $180 a week, it costs me about $35.00 to fill up on friday, at about $2.22 a gallon for regular. I get about 14MPG average, and i drive about 230miles a week average. so i usually put another $8 in on wednesdays because this car's gas tank is too small for its thirst (18 gallons). So all in all it costs me about $45.00 a week in gas. Now if i had a '76 Eldorado, and drove 230 miles a week, It would cost me about to fill up weekly. I figured about 10mpg average. So 230miles/10mpg is 23 gallons. 23 gallons x 2.22= $51.06 a week. Thats just for me. I dont think that it's that bad, compared to what i get now.

ben72227
07-21-05, 04:55 AM
Of course you can afford a used Cadillac.:coolgleam

If I can do it, then you can do it. If you're concerned about MPG, you could always get an '81 model with the V8-6-4 engine. I'm sure you would get good fuel economy there...:lildevil:

majax
07-21-05, 06:04 AM
I may recomend saving up for a more modern Cadillac. But, of course an older would be easier and cheaper to fix. The Eldorado will probably give you the best MPG. Best wishes and I am glad you like Cadillac! Now matter how new or old a Cadillac is people still think you are rich if you drive one :D

EcSTSatic
07-21-05, 09:40 AM
It's just my opinion mind you, but not all Cadillacs are equal. Some are classics and reflect a bygone era. Some are just dinosaurs. Quite frankly, if you can't keep them up, they look like s**t.

When I was your age gas was $.19. I made about $2/hr so gas was roughly 10% of my hourly wage. We drove maxed out GTOs, Supersports, MOPARSs etc and/because gas wasn't really a problem. Fixing them wasn't either. You could land a small plane on the hood of the luxury cars then. Even when I was in the Marines, gas wasn't a problem yet. I still had my GTO.

At $2.20/gal with a hourly wage of $8.00, gas is 28% of your hourly wage. if you are looking at having to run premium at around $2.50 /gal that's over 30% of your wage. So you can see, wages did not keep up with inflation. I don't know what your take-home pay is but it's a significantly large dent in your wallet.

If it were me, I'd find something that didn't make me car poor and enjoy life more. There are some classy rides out there that get twice the mileage of an old Caddy and have many of the same amenities.

Good luck with your decision.

BeelzeBob
07-21-05, 11:05 AM
You have a lot of nice, not-so-old options available to you. Click the link below for a list of what some nice 1992 Cadillacs are going for.

http://www.edmunds.com/used/1992/cadillac/index.html

They're still nice before 1992 and even less expensive... They're not TOO bad on gas either.. Stay away from the early 80s if you can. They'll be harder on gas...

eldorado99
07-21-05, 10:00 PM
Thanks for the replies, I have considered a more modern Cadillac but around where I live they tend to sell for upwards of 5000 dollars. And I don't like them as much as the older ones :shhh:. Well by the end of the summer Ill see whats around and If I can catch a good deal on a more modern one I may do that purely based on practicality. But If I see a nice 76 Eldorado for the righth price, I might not be able to pass it up.:rolleyes:

Night Wolf
07-22-05, 01:39 AM
eh...

<---18 y/o

When I first started dirivng I was making $5.50/hr.... premium was also $1.75 here...

now I make $9.08/hr, premium is $2.70

My first car was my 1993 Coupe DeVille, needs premium (all its ever got) and I get 17mpg town and 26mpg highway... so she is good on gas.

I also have a 1979 Sedan DeVille d'Elegance, that gets aobut 12mpg town and 16mpg highway.... although the carburator needs to be rebuilt.

For gas mileage, I have my 1989 Oldsmobile Eighty Eight tho, 21mpg town and 32mpg highway :)

Honestly, I would defintily rock a classic Cadillac as an only car.... and the best part is, my '79 DeVille cost $13/month to insure :) gotta love classic car insurance :)

I really want a 1975 Coupe DeVille, but the '79 kinda fell on me, so I got it... I still would rather have a '75, just for the sheer size and mass....

I would stay away form the Eldorado as a DD because it is FWD, and those parts, like CV shafts and stuff are pretty hard, and expensive to find...

Really, I think for you a 1986-1989 Brougham would be the best, classic styling, IMO better lines then the '77-'79, decent mileage at 15mpg town and 22mpg highway, but with the Olds 307 under the hood it is a complete and uter dog, but timeless styling.... and they are cheap.

If you want the same car, but a real engine and some 70's hint, go for the '77-'79, if you don't give a crap about gas mileage, anything before 1976 will do...

Just don't "pimp" the car out or do all this stupid stuff to make it gauky....

I will say 1 thing, while my '93 DeVille is my baby and my favorite car... there is just something about the '79 that makes it my favorite in a different way.... I mean, I am old school when it comes to cars, and the '79 is everything i believe a car should be... big, heavy, body on frame, RWD, big block V8, carburator, no ABS, airbag or any of that stuff, but still with loads of standard features that make it a perfect daily driver 26 years later. Not to mention the engine sits in there correctly, and when you pop the hood, it just looks so.... normal... and it is a dream to work on, it really is.

I would use the '79 as a daily driver if it wasn't for things like, the AC not working, and my big sound system being in the '93, and the '93 just being more liveable... and the '79 DeVille gets the same mileage as my friends 2000 Toyota Tundra pickup... so really, it isn't like it is unheard of to get this mileage.

Plus, the 425 runs fine on regular gas....

Really, the only reason why I am keeping the '79, is because one day it is getting a beefed up 500 in her... otherwise I would sell it and get a '75 Coupe.... or save up for my dream of a '59 Eldorado convertible, whcih will probably never happen so just a '59 2 door :) or 4 door flat top.... or if the right car came up, I really don't think it would matter as long as its a '59 :)

eldorado99
07-22-05, 02:42 AM
I guess what car I get will depend largely on what becomes available to me with good opportunity... ie. If a 87 Brougham falls into my hands for a good price because of a family friend or something, that is what I will settle on. I would still like to work towards something with a bit of the 70s in it, I love those cars. I do however appreciate the lines of the Fleetwood Broughams of the 80s as well. The one flaw of the Eldorado in my opinion is its FWD, I would much prefer it to be RWD just because, and I'm sure most agree, RWD is much better for such cars. Haha don't worry, I would never in my life "pimp" out a Caddy, I love them the way they come which seems to be all too rare for Caddy lovers in our age group. Is it fairly easy to say, put in a chev 350 in a late eighties Brougham? That might help a bit... My dream Cadillac is also the '59 Eldorado Convertible, Black of course. I have also considered my likelihood of getting this exact vehicle later in life, I'm pretty sure we will be getting hardtops with the prices of these old Eldorados and the fact that I have never seen one in person because of the sheer lack of them around. Although my next favourite Caddy in line is the '76 Eldorado which is why I so desperately want to get one for my second car (My first car is on its way out but it is nothing special, 84 Ford LTD).
eh...

<---18 y/o

When I first started dirivng I was making $5.50/hr.... premium was also $1.75 here...

now I make $9.08/hr, premium is $2.70

My first car was my 1993 Coupe DeVille, needs premium (all its ever got) and I get 17mpg town and 26mpg highway... so she is good on gas.

I also have a 1979 Sedan DeVille d'Elegance, that gets aobut 12mpg town and 16mpg highway.... although the carburator needs to be rebuilt.

For gas mileage, I have my 1989 Oldsmobile Eighty Eight tho, 21mpg town and 32mpg highway :)

Honestly, I would defintily rock a classic Cadillac as an only car.... and the best part is, my '79 DeVille cost $13/month to insure :) gotta love classic car insurance :)

I really want a 1975 Coupe DeVille, but the '79 kinda fell on me, so I got it... I still would rather have a '75, just for the sheer size and mass....

I would stay away form the Eldorado as a DD because it is FWD, and those parts, like CV shafts and stuff are pretty hard, and expensive to find...

Really, I think for you a 1986-1989 Brougham would be the best, classic styling, IMO better lines then the '77-'79, decent mileage at 15mpg town and 22mpg highway, but with the Olds 307 under the hood it is a complete and uter dog, but timeless styling.... and they are cheap.

If you want the same car, but a real engine and some 70's hint, go for the '77-'79, if you don't give a crap about gas mileage, anything before 1976 will do...

Just don't "pimp" the car out or do all this stupid stuff to make it gauky....

I will say 1 thing, while my '93 DeVille is my baby and my favorite car... there is just something about the '79 that makes it my favorite in a different way.... I mean, I am old school when it comes to cars, and the '79 is everything i believe a car should be... big, heavy, body on frame, RWD, big block V8, carburator, no ABS, airbag or any of that stuff, but still with loads of standard features that make it a perfect daily driver 26 years later. Not to mention the engine sits in there correctly, and when you pop the hood, it just looks so.... normal... and it is a dream to work on, it really is.

I would use the '79 as a daily driver if it wasn't for things like, the AC not working, and my big sound system being in the '93, and the '93 just being more liveable... and the '79 DeVille gets the same mileage as my friends 2000 Toyota Tundra pickup... so really, it isn't like it is unheard of to get this mileage.

Plus, the 425 runs fine on regular gas....

Really, the only reason why I am keeping the '79, is because one day it is getting a beefed up 500 in her... otherwise I would sell it and get a '75 Coupe.... or save up for my dream of a '59 Eldorado convertible, whcih will probably never happen so just a '59 2 door :) or 4 door flat top.... or if the right car came up, I really don't think it would matter as long as its a '59 :)

adam_mcd
07-23-05, 05:04 AM
yea, im 18, make 7.50 an hour and i have a 79 coupe. got it for a thousand, put 700 into it, did a few things myself, and it is my daily driver at 160k miles. im going to a community college for the next 2 years so im gettin a sipper but still keeping my caddy. i wouldnt get a new cadillac unless you have the money to fix em, theyre just terrible on reliability until they get to the 6-8k range. even than, theyre still...ugh. if you know things about old american cars, than youll def be set for the 'real' cadillac experience

DeVillish
07-25-05, 12:54 AM
My first car was a 90 coupe deville that i got for 2k from my gfs grandma, i was 17. It only had 50k miles. At the time i was working at a Boston Market(damn chicken!) and making like 6.50 an hour. This was in like 02. Then i worked at taco bell making about 7 an hour in 04. If you work hard and spend smart then you can do it. Its all a matter of how well you buget you cash. Stay away from credit cards, they are evil. Get what you can afford and what makes you happy. And talk to your parents. Before i got my car my mom and step dad sat down with me and we made a buget for EVERYTHING for the car. Dont forget about insureance, tax, tag and all that stuff. And good luck with your search. Now iam going on 21 and i'll be getting my 06 CTS when i go back to the states next year, with more then half of it already paid off.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
07-25-05, 03:00 AM
ooh yes, devillish brought up an important thing: INSURANCE! Insurance on my '92 Deville is like $1200 a year with no tickets/accidents and a good student discount, and im only 18. Cadillacs in general are cheap to insure because they're so big and safe and surprisingly, have a low rate of theft

Jesda
07-26-05, 07:39 AM
If you have a girlfriend, no. :)

DeVillish
07-26-05, 07:30 PM
oh yeah, that too. When i had one of those i was ALWAYS broke, even though i didnt spend that much on my car....hmmm, shocking huh??

cruella89deville
07-27-05, 01:57 AM
I got my DeVille with a 6 dollar job. lol.

You can get a used Cadillac from '93 or earlier for really cheap. I bought my '89 for two grand. They'll vary depending on location and mileage. Most Caddi's that I've seen have a billion miles. Damn old people. Mine has the 4.5 and it's not toooooooo bad. It's about 35 bucks to fill it up completely. On the highway it sips gas. Around town, it chugs it. lol.

You canget a mid 80's Fleetwood for a descent price if you like the BIG ones. If you like the Fleetwood style, you can get a '79-'81 style Coupe DeVille for cheap I'd bet.

Good luck!!

fullserviceman
08-09-05, 10:37 PM
Gas prices are going up fast keep in mind $2.65 for high test here in NY at the time. I sold my 97 Jeep which got 14mpg highway and bought my 1997 Deville with 90,000 miles off ebay for $3000. Got real lucky but the gas thats been saved from my jeep has paid for it with the miles I have to drive (over 1000/week) Food for thought

Raze
08-10-05, 04:13 PM
Well not to discourage but to give you a page out of my book of experience:

I recieved a 1990 Eldo when I was in High School as a replacement for the family station wagon that I got hit in. It had high miles (150K) but had been reengined at 90k miles and garage kept, a real nice car until I had some repairs done. 4 years, 50k miles and about $3k later and about $1-3k more to go (Powersteering pump dying, front struts gone, transmission shift from 1-2, air level system shot, E-brake gone, faulty light switch, and more) and I threw in the towel and bought a 98 ETC last summer. This car has been on my 'want it' list since the body style came out in 92. I bought this car out of my desire for it, nothing more, nothing less. I spent 8500 on it with 68k miles (I had a really good Coop during my undergrad). One year later, 22k miles, and about 4k worth of fixings (some done by me and some the shop when I didn't have time, 2 tires, altenator, ac-recharge, waterpump, radiator, plugs, wires, filters, thermostat, hoses, gaskets everywhere, 2 U-joints) I'm hardpressed to justify the move as I will be in gradschool for a couple of years with a paltry income. Many will say these are routine maintenance items but that's the point. If you buy car for cheap, expect to have to put some money into it soon after. If you buy a 1-3k car, expect an equal amout of work unless you get darn lucky, then see if you can afford it. Caddy's are definatley expensive to keep going, especially if you drive it like a 'kid', something I've changed drastically just to prevent 'breaking' more stuff.

I'm going to give you a piece of advice I should have gotten when I was about your age (lol that sounds funny coming from a 23 year old): save every damn dime you make and in the meantime get a car that provides you transportation (i.e. a cheap beater daily-driver like an altima, civic, or equivalent that is not only cheap on gas & insurance but cheap on repairs as well). The beauty of a car like that is its relative simplicity which will allow you to learn how to do repairs on your own if you're into that. The unfortunate reality is that many on this board come here because they get tired of paying so damned much for others to repair their cars and end up learning how to do it because the bills pile up, not just us young guys & gals either. Hindsight is 20/20 or so they say but all the money i've dumped into vehicles would have been much better spent on a cheap car to start, learn what I've learned now for a fraction of the price just in parts, and holding out until i was out of college/fully employed.

2002silverbullet sts
08-11-05, 01:52 AM
lol jesda...my girlfriend is my caddy...i do threesomes all the time :) damn they are both expensive though! but worth every dime they say!

Cadence
08-11-05, 07:07 AM
Truth told, IMO, it would be so much wiser to save that money, until you get a bit older ,to get that caddy later on. When I first got my '92 Seville, I had a job that paid me 11.23/hr I was about 24-25 back then and gas was 1.25.

Those were the "good old days".......:yup:

It may depend on what model you get as well. The older models can be easily fixed (with time and effort) and the dealer really can't put the boots to your pocket book, like they can with the newer models. You're looking at the mid to late 70's, which is right about when that gas scare came about. I'm betting that if you find a nice one, you'd be sitting pretty good. Just keep up on the maintance and such if you do.

But it might be pretty tough at 8.00/hr. and with these current gas prices....:want: :banghead:

fullserviceman
08-13-05, 12:54 PM
$2.80 a gallon for premium oh wait that was yesterday I think its up 8 cents!! I make $1200 a week and drive 1500 miles so that a hell of a dent in my wallet even with the 97 deville that get 25mpg average. or even the impala at 30 mpg. Fuel will become a large part of your income if you drive more than 300 miles a week. Repairs are another thing. If I bought a ford escort new when I was 16-18 and making $4.50 an hour I could have had 3 brand new caddy's by now at 25 with all the repairs and bad decisions I made on autos I have owned from age 15 to 25.