AS some of you guys know I'm close to buying either a VW Phaeton or Jaguar XJ. I currently have the Phaeton on extended test drive and it's fantastic. I've used it for everything I could possibly use it for. Mainly a work car, commuting etc. It is the quietest car I have ever driven, it makes no noise dispite being a 3.0 TDI. It has the best stereo and very comfortable seats. It's also quite fast. I have it for another two days then i get the Jaguar for the weekend. I will post on the Jaguar when I get it....

Oops, I thought you actually bought the VW, er um, I mean the Phaeton. ;) My bad!

I'd LOVE to hear a review comparing the two after you've driven the Jag also.

I'd still say go for the Jag if fuel concerns aren't an issue, but if they are and you are happy with the Phaeton, then go for that one.

No Continental GT? :suspense: :suspect:


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LOL no I wouldn't buy a car without bagging a free four day drive of it! If I like it i'll buy it. I hope the Jags really bad, because I really want it. I might get one next year, when i don't need a car to use in town.

As for the GT, I'll wait for the Flying Spur ;)

The Phaeton may be a great car, but I'd really worry about VW's notoriously bad dealer service. My ex is German and we had 4 VWs over about 12 years. Never again for me. Maybe they could outsource their Phaeton service to Lexus?

Between the two, I'd opt for the Jag. That's a brand on the way up, rather than down.

I can't fault the dealer service I have received so far, the car arrived with a full tank of diesel, the dealer was most helpful, maybe that is because I could be putting a £76000 sale his way. The problem i'm faced wih is the Jag specced up to what i want/need is £20k more. which im sure you'll agree is alot. I think the VW is a stunning piece of engineering above all else. I don't think the Jag would be justified for what I would use it for, but we'll see in the coming days

Sounds like you're getting a nice deal regardless of what you emd up buying!
Extended test drives=free rental :-)

Oh yeah. :shhh: i never thought of it like that :lildevil:

Doh! Just noticed your location. I suspect the VW dealer network in the UK is far better than in the US.

haha! I was curious as to weather you had realised or not

4 days!!!!! My Dad ordered a new DTS and bought it before even testdriving it!! He couldn't be happier, after all it says "Cadillac" on it somewhere, I think..

I think most people buy after one or two testdrives, I know I do. ;)

Normally I would after two test drives.....but i asked how long an extended test drive would last and they said four days.....free..... and Jaguar said four too. I mean these are pretty large purchases..... So if I drive each of them for four days I can get the best out of them on the commute without having to commit that much money.
I wouldn't pay anything for an extended test drive but if its free why not?

Normally I would after two test drives.....but i asked how long an extended test drive would last and they said four days.....free..... and Jaguar said four too. I mean these are pretty large purchases..... So if I drive each of them for four days I can get the best out of them on the commute without having to commit that much money.
I wouldn't pay anything for an extended test drive but if its free why not?

True, I guess "why not" but what can you discover about the vehicle that you can't in a 2 or 3 hour testdrive?

Then again, it might be good to find out if it stalls on you or something that it might not do in a couple testdrives.....

Still, I might be leary to buy any vehicle that I find out was ever leased, or taken on an extended testdrive because I don't think many people are kind to these vehicles during that time. "Push it to the limits" sort of thing.....

True, I guess "why not" but what can you discover about the vehicle that you can't in a 2 or 3 hour testdrive?

Then again, it might be good to find out if it stalls on you or something that it might not do in a couple testdrives.....

Still, I might be leary to buy any vehicle that I find out was ever leased, or taken on an extended testdrive because I don't think many people are kind to these vehicles during that time. "Push it to the limits" sort of thing.....

Usually those things are advertised as ex demonstrators.....stear clear....appealing offer until you realise there's damaged trim, scratches, dents, and a manner of other things on it. I won't be buying an ex demonstrator mine will be new and shiney from their glass factory :D
The reason i took an extended drive was that i use this vehicle maybe 3-4 hours a day in traffic, and I just want to see how it performs on a daily basis, like can i get everything i need to in the back, are the seats really comfortable, how effective is the climate control in a traffic jam. An extended test drive answers this. And i get a free car for four days :D

Usually those things are advertised as ex demonstrators.....stear clear....appealing offer until you realise there's damaged trim, scratches, dents, and a manner of other things on it. I won't be buying an ex demonstrator mine will be new and shiney from their glass factory :D
The reason i took an extended drive was that i use this vehicle maybe 3-4 hours a day in traffic, and I just want to see how it performs on a daily basis, like can i get everything i need to in the back, are the seats really comfortable, how effective is the climate control in a traffic jam. An extended test drive answers this. And i get a free car for four days :D

How much do you think it will cost in gas for 4 days? I assume you have to "top it up" when you are done?

We just call them "demos."

How much do you think it will cost in gas for 4 days? I assume you have to "top it up" when you are done?

We just call them "demos."

They gave me a info sheet when it arrived, heres what it says about the diesel:
"...we have provided, as requested, this VW Phaeton to you for an extended test drive, we have provided a complementery tank of fuel with the car, hopefully this will cover your needs for the time period of the test drive..."

I'll leave some in it.....

They gave me a info sheet when it arrived, heres what it says about the diesel:
"...we have provided, as requested, this VW Phaeton to you for an extended test drive, we have provided a complementery tank of fuel with the car, hopefully this will cover your needs for the time period of the test drive..."

I'll leave some in it.....

LOL, drive the heck out of it then! What about the 4 days after, when you are in the Jag? Will you be concerned that someone ELSE might be taking it on an extended testdrive? What if you decide (during the Jag testdrive) that you really want that Phaeton, but someone else has it. I think that might be a concern of mine to a degree, but then, I'm paranoid. ;)

LOL, drive the heck out of it then! What about the 4 days after, when you are in the Jag? Will you be concerned that someone ELSE might be taking it on an extended testdrive? What if you decide (during the Jag testdrive) that you really want that Phaeton, but someone else has it. I think that might be a concern of mine to a degree, but then, I'm paranoid. ;)


Rest assured I won't want this one, its the wrong colour (blue) and doesn't have the options i want, im pretty sure they're going to have to build mine especially, meaning a wait. And i doubt many people take advantage of the exteded test drive with the Phaeton, otherwise VW wouldn't be able to afford to put a free tank of fuel in with every drive, if they think they are going to get such a big sale they are going to try and secure it the best they can, i mean not many people buy Phaetons over here.... the only time i intend to see this thing again after im done with it is when i go to collect mine and this one's sitting outside with an "ex dem" sticker on it....

Rest assured I won't want this one, its the wrong colour (blue) and doesn't have the options i want, im pretty sure they're going to have to build mine especially, meaning a wait. And i doubt many people take advantage of the exteded test drive with the Phaeton, otherwise VW wouldn't be able to afford to put a free tank of fuel in with every drive, if they think they are going to get such a big sale they are going to try and secure it the best they can, i mean not many people buy Phaetons over here.... the only time i intend to see this thing again after im done with it is when i go to collect mine and this one's sitting outside with an "ex dem" sticker on it....

Not many people are buying them here either, its really a nice car, I just cant get over the Audi for myself. I know the Diesel is an issue, but seeing the A8 in that trailer for the new Transporter 2 movie pretty much cemented my love for that car.

Not many people are buying them here either, its really a nice car, I just cant get over the Audi for myself. I know the Diesel is an issue, but seeing the A8 in that trailer for the new Transporter 2 movie pretty much cemented my love for that car.

I think the A8 is a very good car... as you probably know its related to the Phaeton, but the A8 is Sportier than the VW, and i don't need sporty right now, and i genuinely think that the VW is better looking....it's subtle...

Because I care about your happiness, I offer this advice:

Lease the Volkswagen
Buy the Jaguar

The VW dealer network is generally horrible.

Because I care about your happiness, I offer this advice:

Lease the Volkswagen
Buy the Jaguar

The VW dealer network is generally horrible.

Boy I tell you what, thats gotta be a weird thing to pull into your local Vdub dealer and bring your 90,000.00 car around to the service aisle side by side with Jenny teenybopper's Convertible New Beetle in her cut-off shorts and tank top, and John Q lookatme in his hopped up Jetta. I cant imagine VW dealers have had much experience in properly dealing with that kind of customer who drives a Phaeton, though I was always provided a loaner when I took my Passat in for service. Generally, I didnt have any problems with the VW dealer.

mcombie: didn't you call your VW dealer a "VW prestige?" Otherwise what is their service like, this may be where the Jaguar is truly better. I don't know though...

Yes, there is only a certain number of dealers that stock the Phaeton, along with the Toureg. They don't service other models, just the prestige two, they're pretty small too so you havent got to deal with lots of staff everywhere, theres only one dealer i have ever been in like this. and it was a Bentley dealer.

Oh, duh, youre in GB. Still, quality issues are a concern. I'd never purchase a Phaeton, but I would be very pleased to lease it for three years and dump it. Such a sweet car though, so sweet.

Hmmm. I have never leased before. The reason being that I like to pay cash for my cars. Always have. I find it very satisfying to own the car I'm driving, and if i had to own any of my cars it would be this one, I wouldn't consider leasing a car I'm using more than any other. It wouldn't feel right for me. If I buy this I'll probably be keeping nearer to the six/seven year mark...

Hmmm. I have never leased before. The reason being that I like to pay cash for my cars. Always have. I find it very satisfying to own the car I'm driving, and if i had to own any of my cars it would be this one, I wouldn't consider leasing a car I'm using more than any other. It wouldn't feel right for me. If I buy this I'll probably be keeping nearer to the six/seven year mark...

Why your out spending all this money I could use a couple of upgrades still on the lade (j/k):histeric:. I can't wait to see what you pick.

Why your out spending all this money I could use a couple of upgrades still on the lade (j/k):histeric:. I can't wait to see what you pick.

LOL I can't wait to get that Jaguar either. I wonder if they send it with a full tank too :coolgleam

LOL I can't wait to get that Jaguar either. I wonder if they send it with a full tank too :coolgleam

If they really want your buisness they will.

They need the sale less than VW. We'll find out....

I like the VW, but the looks ofthe Jaguar call to me a lot more than the VW. But, the notorious issues of Jag motors would make me leery of buying the Jag either... So, it's a 79k Volkswagon, or a British cat that may see the vet more often than the highway....

I like the VW, but the looks ofthe Jaguar call to me a lot more than the VW. But, the notorious issues of Jag motors would make me leery of buying the Jag either... So, it's a 79k Volkswagon, or a British cat that may see the vet more often than the highway....

When put like that the oulook doesn't seem to good. With my options on it the Phaetons going to cost $133,000 USD.....against the Jag which is going to be nearer $150,000+. My thoughts are if I get a jag maybe next year i will be able to get the R, because i wont need it for town driving. And that means i can get the Jag with less options because i wont need so many, and the better engine...

The wonderful thing is that Jaguars have been tremendously reliable since 1995, except the nikasil issue in V8 engines from 1998-2001(?). I'm probably biased because VW is seen here as a car for mild socialists, granola eaters, and teenage girls.

But, the notorious issues of Jag motors would make me leery of buying the Jag either...

Remember, that's the OLD stereotype and things have changed! They bumped Cadillac from second place in JD!!!

Hopefully, the same stereotype that afflicted Cadillac of the 1980's is ALSO gone, and deserves to be "gone" now, just like Jag has climbed their way out of that similar hole...

Jags are the BEST they have EVER been right now! :)

Yes, there is only a certain number of dealers that stock the Phaeton, along with the Toureg. They don't service other models, just the prestige two, they're pretty small too so you havent got to deal with lots of staff everywhere, theres only one dealer i have ever been in like this. and it was a Bentley dealer.

Since the Phaeton is not selling as good as VW thought then what happens if these prestigue dealers have to shut down? I guess you would be best of going to an Audi dealer.

Since the Phaeton is not selling as good as VW thought then what happens if these prestigue dealers have to shut down? I guess you would be best of going to an Audi dealer.

If they do shut it down (which is unlikely due to the demand for the 4x4s) I will definately be going to the Audi dealers.....

Ralph is right, Jaguars couldn't get any better. It comes tomorrow morning. VW collect this tonight.....

When do you hand in the keys and get the Jag Demo??

Still doing that??

Wow, the T-reg must be really expensive over there. Here it starts at a hair under 40k and tops out around the same as a loaded up SRX-V8, if not less. The V10 TDI is quite a bit more of course, but the Porsche Cayenne is even more expensive and has less interior luxury.

I am sure the Jag is going to be a blast with British class.

I am sure the Jag is going to be a blast with British class.

and I can't wait to hear the review!!!! :thumbsup:


XJ6 or XJ8??

When do you hand in the keys and get the Jag Demo??

Still doing that??

VW collect the 'ton tonight in a covered transporter......and Jag drop the 'J in one tomorrow. XJ6... I think it's going to be much fun.....

The 'reg gets pricey at the high end... it starts just above the price you guys get it.... but only limited stockists sell it for reasons unknown to me...

I think he should be driving the XJ8 Vanden Plas. That is the coolest name for a car.

Ralph: where could I find a good used XJ8 on the net my aunt wants to know what kind of XJ8 she could get for an affordable price like 20-30k. She wants a fully loaded new one still though. I guess I could start with ebay.

Ralph: where could I find a good used XJ8 on the net my aunt wants to know what kind of XJ8 she could get for an affordable price like 20-30k. She wants a fully loaded new one still though. I guess I could start with ebay.

You know what??? there is supposedly a really GOOD site that's a direct competition to EBAY and my friend told me the website addy, I wrote it down, and now I can't find it!!!!!

I'll ask him again when I see him, and send it to you, because I would like to check it out too!!!

A base NBS XJ8 2004 model will run you about 32-35k on a good day.

I think he should be driving the XJ8 Vanden Plas. That is the coolest name for a car.

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They dont sell it as the Vanden Plas here. There's a reason. One car that nearly ruined British Leyland (a group that owned most british marques) they sold a car called the Austin Allegro. Look it up on google or something. They top of the line BL models were Vanden Plas models, therse were made in the 70s and 80s...They were very poorly built, and damaged the reputation of Rover and many others. Bad memories for the british public....

Dont ask me what the hell this is doing at a Subaru dealer... but well, there you go...
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=186202325&dealer_id=51364265&car_year=2004&make=JAG&distance=0&lang=en&max_price=35000&model=XJ8&end_year=2004&min_price=1&certified=&address=67202&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=2004&isp=y&cardist=1443#vdptop

That is one trippin Subaru dealership. Thanks for the like I like the steering wheel on the new ones better than those of the late late 90's.

That is very interesting on the Vanden Plas reputation I will certainly Google that. Didn't one of the members of the Royal family die in a car wreck because she could not stop her Land Rover...I cannot remember who, I will have to look it up in my book. Two women is all I can remember.

That is one trippin Subaru dealership. Thanks for the like I like the steering wheel on the new ones better than those of the late late 90's.

That is very interesting on the Vanden Plas reputation I will certainly Google that. Didn't one of the members of the Royal family die in a car wreck because she could not stop her Land Rover...I cannot remember who, I will have to look it up in my book. Two women is all I can remember.

Princess Grace of Monaco. AKA actress Grace Kelly. I think it was 1982, her Rover left a mountain road and plunged 120 feet down a mountain, there was alot of speculation as to who was driving tha car at the time, it is believed her daughter was. She did not hold a driving licence. Note: this was a Rover car I dont think you got Rovers at all in America.

If i can also recall Rover sent engineers to inspect the wreckage, the car was a Rover 3500 P4. These were great, yet due to factory problems, unreliable cars....

Yes, we had Rovers for a few years, back in the 60's.

I think you should look into an Audi A8 W12 2+2.

Yes, we had Rovers for a few years, back in the 60's.

I think you should look into an Audi A8 W12 2+2.

I didn't know you guys ever got them, I did consider an A8, but the W12 isn't economic enough for town use. And i prefer the styling of the Phaeton ( i know, im mad) If i opt for the Phaeton it will be the four seat version...

OK It's gone... they took it away 20 mins ago on the covered transporter it arrived in. Roll on the arrival of the big cat.....

http://www.germancarfans.com/photos.cfm/PhotoID/3030304.004/volkswagen/1.html

http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cfm/NewsID/2020301.001/volkswagen/1.html

http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cfm/NewsID/2030605.003/volkswagen/1.html

Have you considered the diesel A8? I know it seems wrong for a luxury car to rattle and clatter around town, but you retain all the luxury and torque.

THE JAGUAR HAS LANDED!

It came this morning in the same manner as the VW......

Right day one with the Jag. Its superb, build quality is fantastic, leather actually looks like it was once part of a cow and not some petro-chemical look a like. It also has a great stereo, something that is evident is that its less roomy than the Phaeton, but i like it. it cossets you like a jaguar should, despite this visability is good and my junior parked it with ease. its comfortable ands quite sporty to drive, and was cruising at 90 on the way home with no effortIt is fantastic looking and has the nicest wheels ive ever seen on a saloon car :D

What Model? X Type / S Type or XJ ?

Mccombie you have to answer to Jesda's TDI A8 question!! :rant2:

You tricked me, I thought there was no TDI A8 :p

What Model? X Type / S Type or XJ ?

XJ6 Executive....
I did think about the A8 Diesel.... but i figured it was the same engine as the VW, also it demands a premium price It starts at £10k more than the VW, which may not sound much but with my total of options bein alot (almos as much as the Phaeton itself) this would push the Audi higher than the Jaguar, and when i can get an almost identical car with the Phaeton.....

Jaguar will be getting a nice run up some very twisty roads today...... we're seeing what it can do and also visiting family...... it hadles well normally so I'm going to see what the fun fator is.......

Are the XJ6's hand rivited and made from aluminium like the XJ8's? I was at the Jag dealership last Sat. and I got a nice magazine showing how they rivit the alum. just like an old airplane, incredible!

Maybe tomorrow I can scan some....

jags are nice cars now that ford came in the UK and started fixing land rover and jag.

hoozah to ford, for making my favorite car company even more of a favorite.

Are the XJ6's hand rivited and made from aluminium like the XJ8's? I was at the Jag dealership last Sat. and I got a nice magazine showing how they rivit the alum. just like an old airplane...


exactly the same way....they just put the V6 engine in instead...... it is pretty fast.... i know a long straight piece of road im going to try and max it on....... wish me luck guys. Jaguar claims 145.......

http://www.jaguar.co.uk/uk/en/vehicles/xj/specs/performance_economy.htm

Princess Grace of Monaco. AKA actress Grace Kelly. I think it was 1982, her Rover left a mountain road and plunged 120 feet down a mountain, there was alot of speculation as to who was driving tha car at the time, it is believed her daughter was. She did not hold a driving licence. Note: this was a Rover car I dont think you got Rovers at all in America.

If i can also recall Rover sent engineers to inspect the wreckage, the car was a Rover 3500 P4. These were great, yet due to factory problems, unreliable cars....
mcombie , ive worked on more than a few rovers thru the 2 years i spent as a brittish car mechanic , the last being a "sd1" (but i did indeed spin a few wrenches on a lone p4), it was even right hand drive brought here to the states as the owner couldnt live without it ...untill he got our bill ....LOL....it was yet another one of those cars that were powered by the old buick 215

mcombie , ive worked on more than a few rovers thru the 2 years i spent as a brittish car mechanic , the last being a "sd1" (but i did indeed spin a few wrenches on a lone p4), it was even right hand drive brought here to the states as the owner couldnt live without it ...untill he got our bill ....LOL....it was yet another one of those cars that were powered by the old buick 215

I had an SD1 in 1977 brand new... that had the 3500 engine it was FAST but the brakes were feeble..., i believe a Rover director found it in a wreckers yard and bought the rights to it?

Took the Jaguar to Scotland today. 140mph! It felt like 80.....dream to drive, and it looks fantastic except for that grille.... i passed a guy in a Porsche who gave me a thumbs up :D its a beautiful car...... Except the CD player wont play my Dire Straits CD :hmm: maybe its just worn...

money for nothing and my chicks for free !!!

it probably offends the jag to listen to such things

money for nothing and my chicks for free !!!

it probably offends the jag to listen to such things

Hey the Straits rule..... and I'm allowed becu's i like modern music too :D and Sting and The Police played ok so all is good ;) Knopfler was from my area too :D along with sting incidentally. Anyway had a blast. Want to do it all again....

yup the strights do rule ...

i bet it woulda played fine in the VW tho....lol...

so how about features and such , are they about equal ?

yup the strights do rule ...

i bet it woulda played fine in the VW tho....lol...

so how about features and such , are they about equal ?


Pretty much, same sorta thing, many toys, SATNAV is great, didn't use it much though, just drove where the road took me. The steering is slightly better than the VW much more responsive.....handles great for such a big car.

And yes! Tha Straits did play in the VW :banghead: I don't know maybe its just in need of a clean.... i replaced it with Avril :D

exactly the same way....they just put the V6 engine in instead...... it is pretty fast.... i know a long straight piece of road im going to try and max it on....... wish me luck guys. Jaguar claims 145.......

http://www.jaguar.co.uk/uk/en/vehicles/xj/specs/performance_economy.htm

There sure must be a lot of extra weight in the Jag, because I discovered it's about as heavy as my steel Caddy at around 3700 pounds.

I just discovered that you can scan bigger at 800 by 600 pixels, and I was always scanning at 600 by 600. Let me try a couple of test scans and see if I can get some info to you about the hand-riviting, etc. This magazine the Jag dealership gave me is incredible!! It does into such detail.....

EDIT, nope, it won't let me go 800 by 600!!!! :rant2: Unless I put the pages sideways, but then you would have to turn them, this bites!

A major concern is dents in the aluminium. Can a general autobody fix it, or get a replacement......(those are the concerns)

they cant do as good work probabally. they work with steel more than aluminum but if you need a jag repaired then u gotta take it to a jag dealer or a shop they reccomend for good work. its a jag, man, not a geo

they cant do as good work probabally. they work with steel more than aluminum but if you need a jag repaired then u gotta take it to a jag dealer or a shop they reccomend for good work. its a jag, man, not a geo

At least Jag will pay for the towing. ;) According to the above article (in black) they've had to train people special for this type of repair in the U.S., etc. So yes, definately one would have to go to the Jag dealership. (I wasn't asking a "question" above, just citing the article....) :)

yup the strights do rule ...

i want my, i want my, i want my l a c.
:band:
you know we get the chicks for free :coolgleam
they always want to test the air ride and the leather though:hmm: :thumbsup:

The damage thing doesn't worry me too much. Never had an accident before.....well unless you count my off roading experience in my old escalade seen in the fond memories section in the non specific forum. I was very pleased at the speed i got it to. I mean 140 from the smallest engine in the range is some achievement. My head is saying to me "buy the phaeton now and get the XJR next time" which is seeming like a good idea right now because if i get the XJR it is likely to go beyond its limiter. Especially if i have it removed :sneaky: and take it to Germany.....

I cannot imagine what the XJR is like, i didnt think it could get better than this

I mean 140 from the smallest engine in the range is some achievement.

KPH?? or MPH??

What is your speed limit on highways there??? Ours is 100 kph.

KPH?? or MPH??

What is your speed limit on highways there??? Ours is 100 kph.

140 MPH and the speed limit is erm....half of that :hide:

140 MPH and the speed limit is erm....half of that :hide:

:tisk:






:D

Nah its ok im a safe driver :histeric: and there was no police around so i igured id be fine :D what a thrill. i really didnt want the toyota corolla to pull out. luckily he saw four big british headlights in his door mirror and didnt :D

My wife just went to pick my son up from a party and cam back with a biiig grin on her face. I think she likes the Jaguar.......or shes having an affair

My wife just went to pick my son up from a party and cam back with a biiig grin on her face. I think she likes the Jaguar.......or shes having an affair

Pay a little extra and get an XJ8??

Must make wife happy!

I want to go the wole way and get the XJR or the Super V8. But that would defeat the object of having a semi efficient car for town. i think I'm gonna wait until my next big project and buy the R.......or get one now and drive my sons Vauxhall Corsa to work.
I don't know if youre familiar witht hem...so heres a pic if you arent

http://www.opel-seitz.de/grafik/neufa/corsa.jpg

I want to go the wole way and get the XJR or the Super V8. But that would defeat the object of having a semi efficient car for town.

That's why I sort of suggested the XJ8. Also, if a smooth ride is important to you get the XJ8 and you get the best of both worlds, combining power, decent efficiency (compared to the XJR) and smooth ride, etc. It seems like a good intermediate for what you might be looking for.

That's why I sort of suggested the XJ8. Also, if a smooth ride is important to you get the XJ8 and you get the best of both worlds, combining power, decent efficiency (compared to the XJR) and smooth ride, etc. It seems like a good intermediate for what you might be looking for.

I really want both. I could get the R now. but that leaves the prospect of a Corsa. Or I could wait and drive a Phaeton to work and get the Jag in probably December when my next project is due. Then i get an XJR Jag AND a diesel piece of VW perfection. Decisions decisions. I'm, as you can probably tell not very good at compromises. I don't want to miss out on that R. But i do want the perfection and luxury of the VW. I've seen the interior of the R when i was at the showroom. You can get it with red leather and the charcoal wood in the dash. i want that! And then i'd have a cream and wood interior in the VW for daily use.

ohhh.... the decisions we all have to make!!:histeric: When will the final decision be in?

Its likely to be after Monday... when the Jaguar goes back to the Dealer...

And you think it will be which car?

My head says the Phaeton my heart says the Jag. I think I'll probably get thePhaeton and wait until december for an XJR. i also of course have the option of using my sons disused Corsa :histeric:

REACHED A DECISION!

I thought I'd do this from the start but i wasnt so sure. I'm going to get a Phaeton. In red. Then in December when my next project clears I'm going to get an XJR or super V8 i havent looked into those yet. I'm going to the VW showroom ASAP to sort it out! Wish me luck and a big discount for paying cash ;)

Pics Expected!

REACHED A DECISION!

I thought I'd do this from the start but i wasnt so sure. I'm going to get a Phaeton. In red. Then in December when my next project clears I'm going to get an XJR or super V8 i havent looked into those yet. I'm going to the VW showroom ASAP to sort it out! Wish me luck and a big discount for paying cash ;)

Don't be so hasty. :sneaky: You still have the Jag for a while, and you might fall in love. :thumbsup:

Pics essential, yes.

Don't be so hasty. :sneaky: You still have the Jag for a while, and you might fall in love. :thumbsup:

Pics essential, yes.

I am in love! But i want a one with a real engine ;) so i get an R. The Jag goes back at 5pm. There will e pics as soon as i get it :D

Best wishes with buying your Volkswagen.

thanks :D the best aprt is ticking those option boxes :D

Well... Im still a little ticked the A8 didnt get a fair shake :p but I suppose Im glad you went for the German practical now and are gonna get the athletic XJR later. Congrats.

Well... Im still a little ticked the A8 didnt get a fair shake :p but I suppose Im glad you went for the German practical now and are gonna get the athletic XJR later. Congrats.

thanks! Im going to go to VW tomorrow and order the Phaeton :D red on cream leather ;)

Congrats. I can't wait to see some pics.

Have you ever tested an XJR?? Could you have tested one instead of the XJ6? It doesn't seem to make too much sense to test a Xj6 for 4 days if you really want the R? :)

Have you ever tested an XJR?? Could you have tested one instead of the XJ6? It doesn't seem to make too much sense to test a Xj6 for 4 days if you really want the R? :)

I've not driven an R yet. i will look into that later, but there are some cars you need a long test drive in, and others you need not drive at all ;) i will look into the R in maybe December, but I chose the Phaeton because it's better at what i wanted it to do....i still may not want the R when the time comes, i doubt it unless they bring out a BMW M7...

I ordered the Phaeton today. its so much fun being able to tick ALL of those options boxes....or most of them anyway.
VW Phaeton 3.0TDI
Colour: Turca Anthracite (i wanted red but the only one the offer is too dark)
Interior: Sunny beige 'sensitive' leather
Dashboard wood inlay: Chesnut

Many options......almost toalling the value of the car without any. Just an update:D

Is that a darker colored wood??

Is that a darker colored wood??

it isnt as dark as oak......or walnut as you see in jag....but its much darker than pine and beech. its brown

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Followup/articleId=106412

Thanks :D i want that one! in that colour! dont it look beautiful? its purrring at me

Yeah they just sold it to me right there. Its BEAUTIFUL. Even my wife thinks so. so shes given me the :thumbsup: on this one :sneaky: Someone agree with me how beautiful it is? In that colour red? That car has the power to make a grown man cry. Im buying one. In December, come hell or high water i geta Jag. That Jag. :lildevil:

How long will the delivery of the Phaeton take?

How long will the delivery of the Phaeton take?

They havent confirmed but they told me because of the number of options it will take 2+ months. They will telephone me to tell me exactly how long because two was an estimate....

Thanks :D i want that one! in that colour! dont it look beautiful? its purrring at me

That is a beautiful colour allright!!! I took pics of a new Deville in the showroom in that color and I think I like it equally to White Diamond, but it's as dark as I would go. I think that colour along with beige leather would be spectacular!

That is a beautiful colour allright!!! I took pics of a new Deville in the showroom in that color and I think I like it equally to White Diamond, but it's as dark as I would go. I think that colour along with beige leather would be spectacular!

When i get it it will look like that. i would normally get BRG, but because i couldnt have my phaeton that kind of colour ill get the Jag in it. It really does look beautiful. there arent many that colour actually. which makes it better again!