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Rolex
07-15-05, 12:27 AM
http://x200.putfile.com/videos/a4-13422373474.wmv

Note to self: when going lion hunting leave the bolt action rifle in favor of the semi-automatic. :bonkers:

Ralph
07-15-05, 12:29 AM
I got a "BAD GATEWAY" on that link, but remember, if the hunter knows what he's doing he'll make that one shot COUNT! ;)

Bolts are more accurate also supposedly because of a tighter lockup.....

Rolex
07-15-05, 12:30 AM
Link fixed....sorry! It's a wonder they didn't all kill each other with crossfire.

Ralph
07-15-05, 12:35 AM
LOL, well they definately got enough shots off, but it was just poor "shot placement" imo. Hopefully it didn't get away wounded, but it was hard to tell.

I think he had a shot the first couple of times, especially with a high powered cartridge and a bi-pod mount. Definately in range, etc.

Ya, that crossfire could have been fatal!

Creepy though.....

Kev
07-15-05, 01:33 AM
They hit him a few times it seems to me but the rounds went through and obviously didn't blow out the heart or hit anything that would have disabled him. That was one tough cat though. I'm guessing there were some soiled undergarments on that trip!

Ralph
07-15-05, 01:39 AM
They hit him a few times it seems to me but the rounds went through and obviously didn't blow out the heart or hit anything that would have disabled him.

Could be. My friend once got a deer with a .308 through the heart and it still ran about 50 yards before it dropped. I guess there was still enough oxygen in the brain to be able to do that.....plus adrenalin....

fast66
07-15-05, 04:09 AM
If they are stupid enough to go shoot at a lion then they deserve to be attacked. My logic.

powerglide
07-15-05, 04:16 AM
Wow......those fkkers deserve to get mauled. It really pisses me off royal.

davesdeville
07-15-05, 07:50 AM
Damn straight they deserve to get mauled. If you're gonna kill something and eat it, fine, but trophy hunters are douchebags in my book.

N*Tony
07-15-05, 09:35 AM
yeah the only thing that would have made it funnier would be if one of those losers got shot when they were trying to kill the lion

Brett
07-15-05, 09:46 AM
Thats not even legal. And really pisses me off.

Elvis
07-15-05, 11:06 AM
If they are stupid enough to go shoot at a lion then they deserve to be attacked. My logic.

Wow......those fkkers deserve to get mauled. It really pisses me off royal..

Damn straight they deserve to get mauled. If you're gonna kill something and eat it, fine, but trophy hunters are douchebags in my book.

yeah the only thing that would have made it funnier would be if one of those losers got shot when they were trying to kill the lion.

Thats not even legal. And really pisses me off.

I'm to sick about this to add anything better. :(

Rolex
07-15-05, 05:35 PM
I'm to sick about this to add anything better. :(

I couldn't have imagined that this vid would get such a rise out of people. I suppose I'll be more selective in the future.

Ralph
07-15-05, 06:14 PM
I would indeed like to know if it is in fact illegal to hire a guide and go big game hunting in Africa now??

Who here hasn't hunted? Or shot a varmint in their yard? Just because a lion is larger, that makes it an issue? If it is illegal in Africa, THEN I might have an issue, but even then I won't take the political correct high road just because it is fashionable.

I'm not justifying anything, however, lions have been known to attack people and livestock, that is simple fact, so I don't need to hear the arguement that lions are not dangerous enough to be hunted legally. If it's legal, it's legal, if not well, what are we supposed to do about it...if they are allowed to hunt them legally, I have no issue here, that is my view.

It is legal to hunt bears here. Should I become upset that they allow this so close to home when it is mostly wealthy American citizens who hunt them here while on vacation. It is good for tourism, hotels, sporting good shops, the economy in general, AND conservation. There is a lot to this issue we don't need to get into, but to criticize it we should know all the facts FIRST!

I guess I don't get easily offended by a video I might see on the 6 'o clock news.

That is all.

Rolex
07-15-05, 06:29 PM
I would indeed like to know if it is in fact illegal to hire a guide and go big game hunting in Africa now??

Who here hasn't hunted? Or shot a varmint in their yard? Just because a lion is larger, that makes it an issue? If it is illegal in Africa, THEN I might have an issue, but even then I won't take the political correct high road just because it is fashionable.

I'm not justifying anything, however, lions have been known to attack people and livestock, so I don't need to hear the arguement that lions are not dangerous enough to be hunted legally. If it's legal, it's legal, if not well, what are we supposed to do about it...

I guess I don't get easily offended by a video I might see on the 6 'o clock news.

That is all.

There are guided hunts available in Africa allowing hunting for almost every animal on the continent....for a nominal fee of course. It's a big part of wild life management, and a good source of revenue. I believe Lion hunting was stopped after 2004. There is nothing illegal in this video. Just FYI, it's not poaching. :D

Kev
07-15-05, 06:32 PM
My personal opinion (as if it matters) is that hunting purely for sport or trophy does not interest me. I would only hunt for a few reasons those being;
1. Food
2. Protection as in kill or be killed, mauled or injured
3. Eradication of harmful or deadly animals if impossible or impractical to relocate them to an appropriate place

Since I can buy all the meat I want at my local grocery store and have not encountered any dangerous animals other than a few roaming dogs (the bears, mountain lions, coyotes and wild pigs have enough sense thus far to avoid my neighborhood) I really haven’t done much hunting lately.

Kev
07-15-05, 06:36 PM
Oops! I forgot about the mice and gophers! Those scroungy little vermin!
Course, my cat has been on the job for the last 13 years so all I've had to do is dispose of a few half eaten carcasses here and there but that may not really count?.......

90Brougham350
07-15-05, 06:37 PM
Rolex is right on. Fee-based hunting is both a major source of income and a huge deterrent to poaching. If a license to kill an elephant costs $30,000 and they sell maybe 3 a season, that's $90,000. All of a sudden these poor African countries have the money to provide adequate protection. Same thing with Lion hunting.

Just me, or did anyone hear that really girly scream almost at the end there?

Brian

Ralph
07-15-05, 06:38 PM
My personal opinion (as if it matters) is that hunting purely for sport or trophy does not interest me. I would only hunt for a few reasons those being;
1. Food
2. Protection as in kill or be killed, mauled or injured
3. Eradication of harmful or deadly animals if impossible or impractical to relocate them to an appropriate place

Since I can buy all the meat I want at my local grocery store and have not encountered any dangerous animals other than a few roaming dogs (the bears, mountain lions, coyotes and wild pigs have enough sense thus far to avoid my neighborhood) I really haven’t done much hunting lately.

A fair view, but also remember that hunting is for "conservation." When WE get too many deer and older deer, they get more diseases, etc. Have you heard of wasting disease in the wildlife. It could be spread into the food chain, and into humans, etc. We've had cases of this here, but very rare. When you get overpopulation of deer you get an overpopulation of wolves because they now have more prey for food, etc. Then we get wolves coming into town and attacking children! How many parents of those children do you want to bet signed the petition to ban firearms and hunting in Canada! Most likely quite a few!

We now have an overpopulation of deer in my province and it is because they have drastically limited the hunting season and we have fewer hunters because of harsh firearm laws. So NOW, we have more people than EVER killed on the highways due to hitting deer on the HW!

It's all related, but like I said, it's Africa, let them deal with their own issues and who are we to judge that video. I thought it was humerous and figured it did serve the hunters right, if they are that stupid and careless....

Ralph
07-15-05, 06:39 PM
My personal opinion (as if it matters) is that hunting purely for sport or trophy does not interest me. I would only hunt for a few reasons those being;
1. Food
2. Protection as in kill or be killed, mauled or injured
3. Eradication of harmful or deadly animals if impossible or impractical to relocate them to an appropriate place


These conditions and terms likely exist in Africa.

Kev
07-15-05, 06:41 PM
Just me, or did anyone hear that really girly scream almost at the end there?

BrianYeah, I heard it, I thought it came from the woman that was there. Are you thinking it was from the guy that got jumped?
:rofl:

Rolex
07-15-05, 06:43 PM
My personal opinion (as if it matters) is that hunting purely for sport or trophy does not interest me. I would only hunt for a few reasons those being;
1. Food
2. Protection as in kill or be killed, mauled or injured
3. Eradication of harmful or deadly animals if impossible or impractical to relocate them to an appropriate place

Since I can buy all the meat I want at my local grocery store and have not encountered any dangerous animals other than a few roaming dogs (the bears, mountain lions, coyotes and wild pigs have enough sense thus far to avoid my neighborhood) I really haven’t done much hunting lately.

I haven't hunted in years, though I still consider shooting my #1 hobby. I posted this vid thinking it had some "blood pumping" entertainment value. I had no idea it would be viewed as an animal cruelty issue. I suppose this is my "southern mindset" hard at work. I don't view hunting, either for food or sport, as cruel to animals. Hunting is just part of good wildlife management...and a fact of life.

Just me, or did anyone hear that really girly scream almost at the end there?

Brian

Yes, that MANLY cry came from the man with the big bore rifle. This was also part of the entertainment value of this clip IMHO. I find it a little funny the lion scares the crap out of the guy who initially takes a shot at him.

Ralph
07-15-05, 06:48 PM
Oops! I forgot about the mice and gophers! Those scroungy little vermin!
Course, my cat has been on the job for the last 13 years so all I've had to do is dispose of a few half eaten carcasses here and there but that may not really count?.......

THAT'S CRUELITY!!! I say WE BAN ALL CATS NOW!!!!!! ;)


:cat:

Those poor little helpless mice. :sneaky:

Kev
07-15-05, 06:54 PM
A fair view, but also remember that hunting is for "conservation." When WE get too many deer and older deer, they get more diseases, etc. Have you heard of ebola in the wildlife population? There was a case of that here. When you get overpopulation of deer you get an overpopulation of wolves because they now have more prey for food, etc. Then we get wolves coming into town and attacking children! How many of parents of those children do you want to bet signed the petition to ban firearms and hunting in Canada! Most likely quite a few!

We now have an overpopulation of deer in my province and it is because they have drastically limited the hunting season and we have fewer hunters because of harsh laws. So NOW, we have more people than EVER killed on the highways due to hitting deer on the HW!

It's all related, but like I said, it's Africa, let them deal with their own issues and who are we to judge that video. I thought it was humerous and figured it did serve the hunters right, if they are that stupid and careless....

These conditions and terms likely exist in Africa.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against hunting, I would only hunt per the terms I've stated. That standard is imposed by me for me, no one else.
If I were in Africa you bet I'd plug any lion that threatened me or mine. Just as I would kill any stray dog that attacks my family. And I almost did once, some fool intentionally let his three pit-bulls out to roam the neiborhood and they came close to biting my nephew, wife and some other small kids that were out playing at the time. I wasn't there luckily for the dogs or I would have done more than fend them off with a weed puller as my little wife did!

When I told the animal control officer this she said, "Oh no, you can't hurt those dogs, it's illeagal." to which I responded, "I'll kill them and won't hesitate to do so if I catch them attacking my family or my neibors kids and when I'm done I'll sue the owner and have your job too if you don't do something about this situation!"

She just studdered some incoherent response and mumbled something about looking into it.

ANYHOO! Sorry for the rant. I have nothing against hunting if it is done properly and reasonably.

Ralph
07-15-05, 06:59 PM
If I were in Africa you bet I'd plug any lion that threatened me or mine. Just as I would kill any stray dog that attacks my family.

When I told the animal control officer this she said, "Oh no, you can't hurt those dogs, it's illeagal." to which I responded, "I'll kill them and won't hesitate to do so if I catch them attacking my family or my neibors kids and when I'm done I'll sue the owner and have your job too if you don't do something about this situation!"


Likewise!!! The people that make me "sick" are people that state and claim they would not hurt the animal even if it was mauling their child!!! I'd REALLY like to see how they might react in that situation, or that an animal could EVER be as precious as their own child, but again I think they are just trying to be politically correct in stating something so ludicris!

Likewise, sorry for the rant. :)

I had a buddy go deep into the woods a few years ago to do some research for the university. When the park official said he "isn't allowed to go into the woods" with a Winchester Defender strapped to his back, loaded with slugs, he responded, "if you can take it off me you can have it, but I'm not going to be a victim of another bear mauling!"

They left him alone.

Elvis
07-15-05, 11:03 PM
Show me the pansies that lion dug up, and I'll join in the hunt.

I'm a ruthless mutha when it comes to protecting momma's flower beds.

Ralph
07-15-05, 11:06 PM
Show me the pansies that lion dug up, and I'll join in the hunt.

I'm a ruthless mutha when it comes to protecting momma's flower beds.

Sorry if I came off a bit harsh Dude. :(

Elvis
07-15-05, 11:10 PM
Sorry if I came off a bit harsh Dude. :(


:histeric: :nyanya:

Ralph
07-15-05, 11:13 PM
:histeric: :nyanya:

:eek: :suspense: :crybaby: :crying: :hide:



:hitstick: :farting:

Boombotz
07-16-05, 12:06 AM
Likewise!!! The people that make me "sick" are people that state and claim they would not hurt the animal even if it was mauling their child!!! I'd REALLY like to see how they might react in that situation, or that an animal could EVER be as precious as their own child, but again I think they are just trying to be politically correct in stating something so ludicris!

Likewise, sorry for the rant. :)

I had a buddy go deep into the woods a few years ago to do some research for the university. When the park official said he "isn't allowed to go into the woods" with a Winchester Defender strapped to his back, loaded with slugs, he responded, "if you can take it off me you can have it, but I'm not going to be a victim of another bear mauling!"

They left him alone.

All I have to say is one thing. Being this is the wife I can say I have never hunted. I know how to use a 22 and can say this for sure if a animal ever came after my daughter I would blow it's f***ing head off with no hesitation. Actually that pretty much goes for anything trying to harm my kid animal or not.

Ralph
07-16-05, 12:36 AM
All I have to say is one thing. Being this is the wife I can say I have never hunted. I know how to use a 22 and can say this for sure if a animal ever came after my daughter I would blow it's f***ing head off with no hesitation. Actually that pretty much goes for anything trying to harm my kid animal or not.


I'm proud of you Julie! That brings a tear to my eye....... :crying: ;)


:thumbsup:

True, it's just common sense when you think about it.