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HotRodSaint
06-25-05, 12:08 PM
I don't think any of these are real. And i didn't read the whole thread these were posted in.

But my vote is for #1.

#2 looks boring, but with GM's recent track record, this might be close to reality. :helpless:



http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/31-16883-364927-11670/SS-2007-Chevy-Camaro.jpg

http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/31-16883-364927-11671/cam2007.jpg

http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/31-16883-364927-11672/nextgencamaro1.jpg

http://forums.autoweek.com/thread.jspa?forumID=31&threadID=16883

90Brougham350
06-25-05, 01:12 PM
Third one actually kind of looks like a first gen. Either way, doesn't matter which one GM builds, they'll botch the hell out of it anyways with a shitty interior.

Brian

davesdeville
06-25-05, 01:23 PM
None of them are for real. The first one is pretty good, the other 2 are fugly.

BeelzeBob
06-25-05, 01:56 PM
Yeah, none of them are real.. I like the first one best and I have a feeling the actual finished product would look more like the second one. But who knows? Ford did a really great job with the Mustang so Chevy will really need to do a good job.

adam_mcd
06-25-05, 04:04 PM
ha, plastic knobs with blue meaning cold, and red being hot.

..and somewhere in between is a horrible mixture of both.

powerglide
06-25-05, 04:07 PM
I agree with Sal, I hope it'll look like the 1st pic, but I'm bracing for #2......ho hum

RBraczyk
06-25-05, 05:03 PM
Numbah three.

Ralph
06-25-05, 05:46 PM
Those pics aren't too far off from what the GM design students/staff are coming up with.....(see bottom of page)

http://www.cardesignnews.com/features/2005/050523accd-springshow/index.php

Some interesting Camaro/Vette, GM info....

http://www.cardesignnews.com/news/2003/030614eod-rybicki/index.html

Stoneage_Caddy
06-25-05, 07:48 PM
id still like to see a kappa based camaro ,strech it slightly to get 2 more seats in there and get the engine bay big enough to fit the 5300 ....(the 6.0 vette motor should be reserved for a barn storming zl1 option )

M STaR 013
06-25-05, 08:03 PM
i think i like 1 more, but i like #3's paint scheme.

They should put the 3.6L 255hp CTS V6 engine for standard models, because by that time, the CTS SHOULD have like a 300hp V6 standard!

Ralph
06-25-05, 09:04 PM
i think i like 1 more, but i like #3's paint scheme.

They should put the 3.6L 255hp CTS V6 engine for standard models, because by that time, the CTS SHOULD have like a 300hp V6 standard!

I never fully liked the idea of V6 Mustangs, or V6 Camaros in the past. I believe it waters down its pure performance image. I like to see a V8 or nothing at all on performance cars like these. Mind you, it was a huge improvement when Ford went from the 2.3L in the Mustang years ago and made a V6 standard. It was such a huge leap from 88hp to 225 hp in the 5.0L.

Rolex
06-25-05, 09:41 PM
I never fully liked the idea of V6 Mustangs, or V6 Camaros in the past. I believe it waters down its pure performance image. I like to see a V8 or nothing at all on performance cars like these. Mind you, it was a huge improvement when Ford went from the 2.3L in the Mustang years ago and made a V6 standard. It was such a huge leap from 88hp to 225 hp in the 5.0L.

I agree with you about having no respect for thewatered down V6 models. You gotta figure though, the V6 models far outsell the V8 models, and SS models. That's why I think Chevy would do well to produce a new retro-style Camaro with a model to fit every budget. The 255hp V6 base model, the 350 hp Z28 model, and 400hp SS model. This is basically what Ford has done with the new Mustang. So far I've seen a lot more V6 Mustangs on the road than GT models.

I prefer the styling of the #1 pic BTW.

Ralph
06-25-05, 09:45 PM
I agree with you about having no respect for thewatered down V6 models. You gotta figure though, the V6 models far outsell the V8 models, and SS models. That's why I think Chevy would do well to produce a new retro-style Camaro with a model to fit every budget. The 255hp V6 base model, the 350 hp Z28 model, and 400hp SS model. This is basically what Ford has done with the new Mustang. So far I've seen a lot more V6 Mustangs on the road than GT models.

I prefer the styling of the #1 pic BTW.

One thing that supposedly helped kill the F-body was it became much too expensive and people flocked to buy a Mustang instead. So I think if GM wants to "do one better" than Ford, they should make a new retro Camaro with only a V8 and offer it at a price BETTER than the GT Mustang and CLOSER to the V6 Mustang. IMO. THEN, they would have a HIT on their hands to take away from Ford sales.

How many people here would buy a used V6 Camaro, when there is a used Z28 right next to it on the lot?? See my point. Keep the "performance image" pure. These are not economy cars, nor should they be thought that by anyone IMO.

Boombotz
06-26-05, 02:00 AM
I would like to see GM go retro on the firebird. I know it probaly won't happen. But if it did I would buy one.

Stoneage_Caddy
06-26-05, 02:05 AM
at one point firebird was going to be on the corvette platform , mildly strecthed to get 2 more seats back there ...woulda been neat in a way ...but it woulda been expensive too ....

firebird would be around today if they went and moved it to the front wheel drive GM80 platform like they planned to do in 91-92 , they acutally had prototypes built and were testing before they backed out of that idea...good thing tho , it went out like it should have , kicking ass ....

HotRodSaint
06-26-05, 11:38 AM
I would like to see GM go retro on the firebird.

That might be a great idea. Go retro with one of them and modern with the other. Same platform two completely different bodies.

The problem I have, is GM doesn't do either very well right now. :canttalk:

HotRodSaint
06-26-05, 11:47 AM
How many people here would buy a used V6 Camaro, when there is a used Z28 right next to it on the lot?? See my point.

I wouldn't buy a used Camaro unless it was a '67-'71 anyway, but that's just me. But the same largely applies for the Mustang, although I could be tempted by an ex-CHP late '80's 5.0 5-speed coupe.

The Mustang went from 75% V6 to 50% V6 with this new body. That's about 10,000 V6 car's still being sold, better than the CTS (which is mainly a V6 car too).

I don't think GM can afford to ignore the secretaries who want style with gas mileage. And since gas is unpredictable right now, it would be a huge mistake to bet everything on a V8.

I think even the GTO would do better if a much cheaper 'Le Mans' was available with a V6.

HotRodSaint
06-26-05, 11:49 AM
So far I've seen a lot more V6 Mustangs on the road than GT models.

The GT has a 8 month back log because they thought the V6 would outsell the V8 as in the past.

ShadowLvr400
06-26-05, 01:46 PM
Actually, the first one looks a little real. A designer outside GM plotted out something very like that, based on the CTS's platform I think. Was a year or two back in Hot Rodding mags. GM is not known to be using thos ideas. Or any intelligent ideas.

Ralph
06-26-05, 06:22 PM
I don't think GM can afford to ignore the secretaries who want style with gas mileage. And since gas is unpredictable right now, it would be a huge mistake to bet everything on a V8.



Hmmmmm, that's a point! I seemed to have forgot about them in this situation, and that is rare for me. :shhh:

It's a "trade-off for sure."

Elvis
06-26-05, 07:45 PM
Ford goes retro with the t-bird and mustang, reminiscent of the first generation models. So now everybody things GM will do the same thing. They probably will. It might be fun to look at but once it's been done, what's the point?

Ralph
06-26-05, 07:48 PM
It might be fun to look at but once it's been done, what's the point?

For sales??

:shhh: :sneaky:

Elvis
06-26-05, 07:54 PM
IMO, it's less attractive to the buyer if EVERYBODY gets into the act.

Ralph
06-26-05, 07:57 PM
IMO, it's less attractive to the buyer if EVERYBODY gets into the act.

They COULD limit production to keep them rare and maintain resale value while raising the price and they would still probably sell. But then it's no longer the affordable pony car for the masses...

Elvis
06-26-05, 08:04 PM
I just don't think it will work for GM.

The Solstice on the other hand, that one's a killer! GM should stand for something new for the simple reason Ford went retro.

HotRodSaint
06-27-05, 01:23 AM
The Solstice on the other hand, that one's a killer!

It is killer. But because it looks like a retro-euro sports car and not Transformer robot.