I'm a little perplexed.

My thread concerning the development and testing of my wheel-hop aid was almost the most viewed thread in the history of this forum.

Then I offered the kits for sale, and having had numerous folks "commit" during this thread, certainly it was easy to see the interest. Based on this I made a large purchase of tubing and other materials, so I could be ready.

All, who have been exposed to the kit have seemed to have much good to report, and only minor complaints, as in some whine transfer into the cabin.

Having said all this, I have only taken orders for 13 kits, 2 of which I installed. Therefore my question is this:


What happened to the at least 15 people who said they were going to buy one, and what happened to the incredibly high interest in this solution?

I would like any and all comments, as I'll never meet most of you you have nothing to fear!!!LOL!!!! No, all kidding aside, I really would like to know.

As I stated in the earlier thread about you designing the kit, people like you are the reason I bought an american car over a european one. The homegrown solution is right here in America not in a garage in a German town no one has herd of. I still have interest in purchasing one. My rearend has started to whine, and my tires, well I'm gonna need new tires with in a few days ago. I have to get the rear situated then I'm in. I'm just trying to figure a way to go about bringing the problem up to the dealer.

?Do you take paypal by any chance?

If I suceeded in getting orders out of 86% of the people that said they would buy, Id have an island in the Caribbean. 13 of 15 buy...damn good if you ask me. :)

Florian

I am noticing a lot of names I have seen on this froum on the ls1tech forums, perhaps they are hanging around over there. Although I think I've seen yours too? Might be some people there...

CTSV05 -

The only thing holding me from purchasing a kit is longer term results, and making sure that there aren't going to be revisions to the design before I buy. I would like to see some reports on the kit after several thousand miles before I commit. I think it's great that you came up with what we all hope to be the be all end all solution to the hop.

Perhaps if you started a thread to ask how everyone with the kits were doing i.e. how many miles driven since install, if they would do it all over again, ease of install, any run ins with warranty issues, or ill effects upon any other components etc. that would drum up more confidence in the product and help to move more of the kits.

Well, my purpose isn't to implant guilt or whine, I was just looking for some insight, as I'm not the most business savvy person. I'm just a guy with a good idea.

Florian, whats funny, is of those who stated a definite interest only a couple of those followed thru.

Thanx, I am over at LS1, but got spanked for promoting my kit as I'm not a vendor.

Parker, yes PayPal is doable, as well as all major cards.

[QUOTE=CTSV05]Well, my purpose isn't to implant guilt or whine, I was just looking for some insight, as I'm not the most business savvy person. I'm just a guy with a good idea.

Florian, whats funny, is of those who stated a definite interest only a couple of those followed thru.


05,

I think the major hang up is that it is not an "approved" piece. The general has not blessed your idea. I think that you have provided a great solution to an issue that plagues the V, but my .02 is that people are on the fence due to the fact that there may be: a.) warranty issues b.) other unknown issues/failures that may occur as a result of use c.) installation issues, i.e. no lift available, not wanting to it themselves, no welding exp. etc.. Im certainly not blasting your product...as I said before, I think its a great idea that has seen excellent results. Im just offering an objective view.
All the best to you, I hope you see increased sales and more people taking the plunge for your efforts. :worship:

Florian

That is kinda wierd, everyone thats seen my kit(mine now) say they want one right away...and ask where to call...

Anyhow for anyone who still on the fence I have 4k miles now, as long as that thing is on tight its all good :)

Didn't vera order a few?

That is kinda wierd, everyone thats seen my kit(mine now) say they want one right away...and ask where to call...

Anyhow for anyone who still on the fence I have 4k miles now, as long as that thing is on tight its all good :)

Didn't vera order a few?


We were going to order a couple(i belive we still are) but ordering parts isn't my job,...I make recomendations for what I belive will be the best product. I have recomended the KARS kit(since I have seen it work in person) and I would stand by it. But, again, I don't have ordering authorization.

Danny, you know what I have to go through to get parts,..

It's just that I have stay on top of my parts guy. I know he's busy but, .....

I'll go shoot him now, and assume his job.

Doug, i'll see what I can do brother.

Jamie

Florian, you make good points, and I can understand the installation being a drawback. As far as you "blasting", I asked, and am looking for honesty, so if there is something I can do, I will.

I'm just so pleased with the results myself, I guess I mistook my excitement for a boom in sales!

As far as GM approval, oh there is info I have but cannot elborate at this time. I'll say this, apparently the design of my kit made an impression amongst some GM engineers.

Sorry, I must leave it at that.

Danny, thanx, and 4000 mi. seems like a good test. I know I'm selling them, but I have over 6000 mi. with no problems.

Jamie, good to see you back, how was Italy?

Ohh god don't ask him that, ever since he came back he has been talking about wrapping my seats in lui vetan.

Said something about it being "just fabulous"

Wierd cat, hell of a tech though!

Ohh god don't ask him that, ever since he came back he has been talking about wrapping my seats in lui vetan.

Said something about it being "just fabulous"

Wierd cat, hell of a tech though!


What, whats wrong with a CTS-Vetan package? I knew you would be interested in it....I just didn't have your color, hot pink.(actually, pink, is my favorite color,...cause it's all pink inside baby...:yup: )

Anyways Doug...I had a great time! Italy was awesome,..drank ALOT of wine. I saw alot of cool places, rome, florence(Firenze), touscany region,grosetto,Amalfe Coast, and honestly alot more places. I did ALOT of driving,...at times 6 hours in the car. Not just any car, a friggin DIESEL FOCUS,...buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut it wasn't soo bad because my sister didn't bring her husband, she brought a friend(female)...and well,....her and I got along. Great time man, wish I could tell you all about it HERE but, I won't bore these people. Although I will highly rercommend FIRENZE,....(florence),...awesome place! Women everywhere. Soo many gorgeous women. Wow. Now i'm getting depressed. No wait, nevermind, i'm takeing out danny's girlfriend tonight, so there goes my depression...:histeric:

Thanks Doug, best wishes brother...jamie

Before it goes any furter its Louis Vuitton. I just couldn't read it butcherd anymore, unless you were trying to be funny, then it was hilarious.

I think producing aftermarket speed parts for CTS-Vs will not make anyone rich. Production of CTS-Vs is a small fraction next to Corvette production, so at very best the market is quite small. There are at least three mfgs of headers for this car, and I wonder if any of them have sold more than ten sets. I wonder how many Maggies have been sold.
The typical CTS-V owner who particpates in the web group may not be a big purchaser of aftermarket parts, compared to Corvette owners. There seems to be an inordinante fear that one's warranty will be voided with any modification.
It appears to me, and I may be completely wrong, that many owners have never become physically involved in doing the work themselves. This leads to a natural aprehension not only about aftermarket parts, but also of trying to find someone trustworthy of installing the aftermarket parts.

As for myself, I have never hard-launched this car so as to induce wheel hop. My hard driving is confined mostly to squirts out of corners and roll-ons. I have headers, cold air intake, light flywheel and ECU tune - so I am interested in more power, and am will to spend money on it.
At this time, I haven't felt the need to eliminate wheel hop, but that may change.

Doug,
As one owner of a V that sees your design as a real improvement in not only the hop but in a chassis brace that will enhance handling, I am very interested in your kit. I am also one of the people who would like to see if any ill effects occur from the use, ie. Audi swaybars were cracking subframe floors and I can't imagine what the cost would be should a warrantee claim be denied. I spoke with my service manager about your kit and he seemed OK with the aplication.

Please do not stop going forward with the kit, as your effort is unique and much needed. You do have customers that haven't shown themselves, yet...

For those that have other remedies, ie. Specter bushings, Lingenfelter bushings, ect. Is your kit compatable? Time and customer feedback will only strengthen the demand.

Thanks for your work and don't give up on us,
ace996

Doug -

I've been following along with the development. As you know I have the BMR AWH kit in place on my V, and I'd gladly remove it if I had the time.

Hang in there. Some of us will come to the bat soon enough! Since I have an '04 I'm just not totally sold on the welding portion of the install...need to get my welding buddy to check out the pics and see how many :drinker it will take to get him to take care of it for me :bouncy:

Thanx to all who have taken the time to repond.

Maybe I being somewhat new to this type of automobile will need to learn how the market works.

If anyone here has not had wheelhop, then God has surely smilled on you!!! As my wife experienced it the first time she drove the V.

I'm not quitting or giving up, just puzzled at the difference in interest and purchases.

Well, I've looked at a GTO and think I can be of help there as well, so that will be my next "Invention"....

BUT, I did think with approx 5000 + Vs 100 kits wouldn't be out of line!!!

Doug,

This post makes me feel bad as I was one of the guys that canceled on you. Why did I cancel????
A couple reasons really.
First I was a little depressed after I saw your video clips from the track. Looking and listening to your runs with the stage III and then my car with nothing it sounded and looked pretty much the same to me. 60' times and e.t's were pretty much the same too with my best 60' being a 2.2 something and 1/4 mile at 13.6
So with that, I then started to think what do I really want.. What I want is to have a fun car on the street and a car that will 60' in the 1.8 to 1.9 area. The car should do that 60' with no problem if we could come out of the hole good in my opinion. So that brought me to the thinking of do I want a different car, put a solid rear end in it, wait for the DTE upgraded diff, ETC..
So with that, not sure what I am doing I am just putting on the full BMR kit for now until I decide what I am going to do for the fix. Is the BMR kit better than yours?? I doubt it very much but it will come off a lot easier with out the welded pads still there if the Dif does go south before I go to the next step. I was at the Dealer today and we talked about me putting on the full BMR kit and if I would have to take it off before coming in for any service work if the rear did let go and he said it wouldn't be a problem to leave it on.
Maybe I am just spoiled with my past cars and trucks, but with a vehicle of this power a 2.2 or slower 60' time in not for me. Will I do a sub 2.0 second 60' with the BMR, most likely not.. But it will have to do for now until I see something that looks like it will get me there.
I wish you nothing but the best with your kit, and I do appreciate the time and effort and most of all the honesty that you have given through out the progress of your kit.
That is the reason for me and thank you for everything...
Bill
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Well Bill, maybe my next outing will be better, as the new tires seem to work better.

Also, when I put that octane boost in, it really killed the power!

Hang in there CTSVO5, the sales will come in time.

When we first introduced both versions of our HD differential struts for the C5 Corvette a couple of years ago, sales we're slow at first as we had expected. Mainly because everyone said that "they didn't need it", but we knew otherwise.... We began noticing driveline breakage event trends LONGGG before anyone else did because we had the experience of building these differentials every day and just from the shear numbers of them we had built to date, we saw things happen sooner in the field than than the average person would. Ironically, the same folks that stated that they "didn't need it" were the very same one's that continually kept breaking driveline parts, while the folks that did install our product from the start did not have anymore driveline problems. Interestingly enough, now even the naysayers are using our product with outstanding success for their cars. The same positive outcome will follow for you in time.

Plus, "Rey" hit the nail on the head in his post...

Give it time and eventually everyone will come around in one way or another and sometimes it usually takes a few hits on their wallet from replacing broken parts for them to realize the error of their ways for them not having one of your products on their car in the first place. :)

Good luck and keep smiling! :cool:

Hang in there CTSVO5, the sales will come in time.

When we first introduced both versions of our HD differential struts for the C5 Corvette a couple of years ago, sales we're slow at first as we had expected. Mainly because everyone said that "they didn't need it", but we knew otherwise.... We began noticing driveline breakage event trends LONGGG before anyone else did because we had the experience of building these differentials every day and just from the shear numbers of them we had built to date, we saw things happen sooner in the field than than the average person would. Ironically, the same folks that stated that they "didn't need it" were the very same one's that continually kept breaking driveline parts, while the folks that did install our product from the start did not have anymore driveline problems. Interestingly enough, now even the naysayers are using our product with outstanding success for their cars. The same positive outcome will follow for you in time.

Plus, "Rey" hit the nail on the head in his post...

Give it time and eventually everyone will come around in one way or another and sometimes it usually takes a few hits on their wallet from replacing broken parts for them to realize the error of their ways for them not having one of your products on their car in the first place. :)

Good luck and keep smiling! :cool:


THANK-YOU SIR!!

CTSV05, What happened with the octane boost? It made you slower? How? and Why?
I'm glad I didn't throw it in my car, I was going to for my track days but just never did.

05, don't give up on me either,I got a shifter sitting in my bedroom for a couple of months now.I just need time,I believe everyone who has seen your web sight and vids knows your the best fix out there.I'm on a schedule to do the hop fix in the fall.And special thanks for answering all my questions.I have got to do something as I have decided to stay with the runflats.

Will,

Apparently 93 octane is optimal for our motors, unless maybe boosted and running hard.

Yes, octane slows down the flame kernel, and if over octaned, as in my brain farted moment, it will act as tho timing has been retarded. Hence the loss of power, or acceleration.

Actually, it took 2 tankfuls for our V to be back to its snappy self.

When my 421 was at 11.3 to one, we were running 110, well the plugs looked wrong, so we started mixing 110 w/ 94 and picked up a tenth.

64, I'm not giving up, I was only surprised at the incredible interest in my threads, and the lack thereof in the kit.

Hang in there Doug, your doing a great job...!

Listen I will pay double the stage 3 kit, if you can design me a cage for my girlfriend.

I plan on feeding her raw meat for 30 days as a social experiment.

Hang in there Doug, your doing a great job...!

Listen I will pay double the stage 3 kit, if you can design me a cage for my girlfriend.

I plan on feeding her raw meat for 30 days as a social experiment.


Your crazy dude:cookoo: LMAO.....

Doug, I belive Nelson called you to order a kit. Hopefully he did.

Take care man.

Jamie

Yes, Nelson called to order a S-3. I was very happy to see a DEALER, see the value of the kit.

Danny, I may need to see your female in person, nude of course, to get a true feeeeeelllll of the size cage needed.

Understood. I will box her and fed-ex immediately.

:)

EXCELLENT!!!

I'm sure my wife will be totally understanding as long as its business!:histeric: