Hey guys.

In order to keep costs down on my project, I want to use some oem GM rims. So, I did some minor research and got some info.

Here's the OEM 89 DeVille:

* 89 to present Deville - 15x6 - 5x115

Here's some GM rims I was peepin'. All OEM:

* late 80's Camaro IROC Z - 16x8 - 5x120.7

* mid 80's Corvette - 16x9.5 - 5x120.7

* 96 Corvette ZR1 - 17x9.5/11 - 5x120.7

* 80's Regal GN / T Type - 15x6 - 5x115 (80's Monte SS should probably be the same)

That's basically all I think. Obviously the GN rims would work becasue it's the EXACT same size. However, could the IROC rims work? Or even the mad beefy Corvette rims? The GN, OEM Caddy, or maybe IROCs would seem to be the best. Even the IROCs would probably rub a tad. My DeVille is FWD, so I'd need to use the larger tread rims up front. lol.

Someone tell me if this will work or if I should give up and live in personal denial. lol.

hmmm, I have no idea what you just typed....

but ANY Cadillac FWD wheels will fit a 1985+ FWD car....

I have 1998-mid '01 Seville SLS 16" wheels on my '93 Coupe DeVille....

Front wheel and rear wheel drive wheels have different backspacing. So I don't think any other wheels, except those off another GM FWD car will work.

they may fit but like caddy daddy said the backspacing is diffrent , changes the load on the wheel bearings and spindles ...

I still like my DTS wheels best

hmmm, I have no idea what you just typed....

It wasn't meant to be challenging...






But anyway... If the lug pattern is the same 5x115 and the backspacing is almost identical wouldn't it work? It seems like the GN rims are almost identical. Even if the rear wheels on the Gn were a tad wider...couldn't you just put them on the front of the Deville?


:hmm:

It wasn't meant to be challenging...






But anyway... If the lug pattern is the same 5x115 and the backspacing is almost identical wouldn't it work? It seems like the GN rims are almost identical. Even if the rear wheels on the Gn were a tad wider...couldn't you just put them on the front of the Deville?


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you can't mix and match FWD/RWD wheels....

any FWD Cadillac wheel from 1985+ will work... I say 1985+ because the Eldorado from 1967 dosn't count :)

Why can't you use the RWD rims on a FWD? There some law? lol. Can you use like 4 GN front rims? lol. I don't know... It's 1:30 am and I'm very sleepy... lol.

yeah.... the law of stupidity....

errr.....

....ok.... simply put, FWD wheels have different offsets then RWD wheels... they are different bolt patterns, they do not fit... if you think they will, then feel free to pick up your Grand National wheels and stick them on.... then when they don't fit, you'll understand...

Plus, starting in the mid-90s Cadillac has some VERY nice wheels out... I dunno why you would want to switch divsions here... stick with a Caddy wheel, and you get the center cap too....

Alright. It's just that I owned a Honda before this and me and my friend still have a CRX...so I just got used to being able to use rims from Integras, civics and del-Sols on the CRX. But it makes sense now.

If I got some American Racing Torq-Thrust II rims in chrome from Summit will they work? Here's the specs on them:

Torq-Thrust II wheel

* Two piece alloy
* Fully polished
* Center cap included
* Avalible for early or late model cars
* Sold individually
* Bolt patterns = 5x4.5 | 5x4.75 | 5x5

15x6 | 15x7 | 15x8.5 | 15x10 | 16x7 | 16x8

Will any of those patterns work? I thought I saw somewhere that it was 5x5 that would work...but I don't know. Apparently 5x115 works...but I don't know what 5x5 is...or what that equates to. If none of those work, what will? Also, I want to either keep the stock 15 inch rims size, or upgrade to 16. Nothing enormous. If I do that, what would a good rim width be? I want a little wider than stock maybe, but I definately don't want to rub when I turn the wheel all the way. I think the Torq-Thrusts would look good on the car because they're chrome and a nice, classic design. But if they don't fit...I'll improvise.

PS: Thanks for your help. I'm new to the domestics thing. lol.

PS: Here's the rim for reference.

http://www.rjays.com/Wheels/amr_images/505torq-thrust-2-sm.jpg

You can use RWD rims as long as the offset is correct. I fitted my car with a set of wheels and tires off a Land Rover! These rims are very beffy and most likely an overkill but they sure look nicer than the 14" wire caps that were on the car before.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/rhedahl/d2a30939.jpg

Alrighty. In that case, what offset should I look for? I have an 89 Sedan DeVille. So it's probably the exact same in that aspect. I want to use either 15's or 16's and maybe even an inch or so over stock width if possible.

Tell me please exactly what I need to look for when I look for rims. I don't want to spend a grand and have them not fit or work properly...

THANKS!!!

camaro rims would look sweet. id also like to know because i am looking for something for my second rimupgrade after i get tired of the 14 spoke? deville rims im looking to grab. im guessing you have the same alloys as me. anyone know how common the shiny lace ones were for the deville anyway?

btw nice eldo.

You can use RWD rims as long as the offset is correct. I fitted my car with a set of wheels and tires off a Land Rover! These rims are very beffy and most likely an overkill but they sure look nicer than the 14" wire caps that were on the car before.


damn...those look good on that car!!!

You can use a wheel with an offset between 35 and 40. The best thing is to try on a wheel and make sure it'll work.

For more information, refer to:

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoWheelOffsets.dos

camaro rims would look sweet. id also like to know because i am looking for something for my second rimupgrade after i get tired of the 14 spoke? deville rims im looking to grab. im guessing you have the same alloys as me. anyone know how common the shiny lace ones were for the deville anyway?

btw nice eldo.

As I understand it, the spoked wire hubcaps were the regular wheel, and the alloy ones were the option. The alloys were called tourning rims. Whatever. I thought they were goofy looking. lol.


You can use a wheel with an offset between 35 and 40. The best thing is to try on a wheel and make sure it'll work.

For more information, refer to:

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoWheelOffsets.dos

So, based on that, I'm guessing the 40 is wider? lol. The 35 would be like the OEM width and the 40 would be slightly wider? Should I maybe roll 35 on the front to make sure I don't rub? Or is 40 safe too?

Upon looking back at Summit again... All it says for the wheel is the bolt pattern (let's say 5x5), and the size (let's say 16x7). Where do you look for the backspacing? Isn't that the 7? If so, what nuber do I have to look for in that size?

****** WILL THESE RIMS FIT? ******

I saw these on Summit and I love them. Classic GM. The rims from the 94-96 Impala SS. They're 160 or so each. That's 40 less than the Torq-Thrusts...and they're bigger.

Here's a pic to remind y'all:

http://www.ormoluenterprises.com/impalass/i/big/wheel.jpg

Here's all the info it gives you:

Brand: GM Performance Parts
Product Line: GM Performance Parts Impala SS Wheels
Rim Diameter (in): 17
Rim Width (in): 8.50
Backspacing (in): 5.00
Beadlock Functional: No
Beadlock Included: No
Rim Material: Cast aluminum
Center Material: Cast aluminum
Wheel Finish: Polished
Lug Nut Seat Style: Conical seat
Wheel Construction: 1-piece
Conical Seat Taper: 60 degree
Hub Centric: No
Center Cap Included: Yes
Offset (mm): 6
Valve Stems Included: No
Quantity: Sold as a set of 4.
Notes: Includes 5 lug nuts, centercap, and 1 valve stem.

Wheel, Impala SS,17 in. x 8.5 in., 5 x 5 in. Bolt Circle, 5 in. Backspace, Each


If these will work, I'm going to buy them. I've always loved the wheel. They'd probably look gay with whitewalls. lol. Guess I'm going back to blackies.

Alright. It's just that I owned a Honda before this and me and my friend still have a CRX...so I just got used to being able to use rims from Integras, civics and del-Sols on the CRX. But it makes sense now.

If I got some American Racing Torq-Thrust II rims in chrome from Summit will they work? Here's the specs on them:

Torq-Thrust II wheel

* Two piece alloy
* Fully polished
* Center cap included
* Avalible for early or late model cars
* Sold individually
* Bolt patterns = 5x4.5 | 5x4.75 | 5x5

15x6 | 15x7 | 15x8.5 | 15x10 | 16x7 | 16x8

Will any of those patterns work? I thought I saw somewhere that it was 5x5 that would work...but I don't know. Apparently 5x115 works...but I don't know what 5x5 is...or what that equates to. If none of those work, what will? Also, I want to either keep the stock 15 inch rims size, or upgrade to 16. Nothing enormous. If I do that, what would a good rim width be? I want a little wider than stock maybe, but I definately don't want to rub when I turn the wheel all the way. I think the Torq-Thrusts would look good on the car because they're chrome and a nice, classic design. But if they don't fit...I'll improvise.

PS: Thanks for your help. I'm new to the domestics thing. lol.

I don't get it... Civic, CRX and Del-sols are all the same car.... all a version of the Civic... of course wheels are going to swap and such... plus they are all FWD...

please keep the rice to the Civic's and leave the Caddys tasteful....

The bad news is 94-96 RWD Impalla SS rims will not fit on a FWD Cadillac. The distance between the bolt holes is different. I looked up what kind of wheels fits an Impala and got the following 17X8.5 5-127 10C The 127mm (Impala) vs. 115mm (Cadillac) is the problem here. You can get by with a couple of mm differece but 12 mm difference is way too much. You would not even be able to get the wheels over the lugs with this much difference. Also, with a offset of 10, the wheels would most likely protrude out from the fender wells and most likely drag on the fenders. The wheels on my car have about the least offset that I would be comfortable with. I had modify the front suspension by setting the front camber to -1.5 degrees to get it to not rub on the fenders.

I don't get it... Civic, CRX and Del-sols are all the same car.... all a version of the Civic... of course wheels are going to swap and such... plus they are all FWD...

please keep the rice to the Civic's and leave the Caddys tasteful....

What the heck are you talking about? All I said was that I knew you could use rims between all of the cars because they were all 4x100. I said that I didn't know about domestics though. Understand my response before you jump to conclusions...