: considering a used car so heres the list:



Adam
05-19-05, 11:53 AM
http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=18EAAL01&dlr=EAAL&searchstring=mercedes (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=18EAAL01&dlr=EAAL&searchstring=mercedes)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=18PRES01&dlr=PRES&searchstring=mercedes (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=18PRES01&dlr=PRES&searchstring=mercedes)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=14TAAN04&dlr=TAAN&searchstring=mercedes (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=14TAAN04&dlr=TAAN&searchstring=mercedes)



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http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=19TABE01&dlr=TABE&searchstring=mercedes (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=19TABE01&dlr=TABE&searchstring=mercedes)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=01HAAM02&dlr=HAAM&searchstring=cadillac (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=01HAAM02&dlr=HAAM&searchstring=cadillac)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=13JAAU14&dlr=JAAU&searchstring=cadillac (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=13JAAU14&dlr=JAAU&searchstring=cadillac)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=09ACCW06&dlr=ACCW&searchstring=lincoln (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=09ACCW06&dlr=ACCW&searchstring=lincoln)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=09DABJ03&dlr=DABJ&searchstring=lincoln (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=09DABJ03&dlr=DABJ&searchstring=lincoln)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=15FAAF02&dlr=FAAF&searchstring=lincoln (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=15FAAF02&dlr=FAAF&searchstring=lincoln)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=51KAAJ01&dlr=KAAJ&searchstring=lincoln (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=51KAAJ01&dlr=KAAJ&searchstring=lincoln)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=12RBRO06&dlr=RBRO&searchstring=lincoln (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=12RBRO06&dlr=RBRO&searchstring=lincoln)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=18TABE03&dlr=TABE&searchstring=lincoln (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=18TABE03&dlr=TABE&searchstring=lincoln)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=18PRES02&dlr=PRES (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=18PRES02&dlr=PRES)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=18SAAC01&dlr=SAAC&searchstring=porsche (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=18SAAC01&dlr=SAAC&searchstring=porsche)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=18RAAH04&dlr=RAAH&searchstring=bmw (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=18RAAH04&dlr=RAAH&searchstring=bmw)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=14TAAN06&dlr=TAAN&searchstring=bmw (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=14TAAN06&dlr=TAAN&searchstring=bmw)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=17TAAN07&dlr=TAAN&searchstring=bmw (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=17TAAN07&dlr=TAAN&searchstring=bmw)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=19TAAN03&dlr=TAAN&searchstring=bmw (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=19TAAN03&dlr=TAAN&searchstring=bmw)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=20TYMD05&dlr=TYMD&searchstring=bmw (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=20TYMD05&dlr=TYMD&searchstring=bmw)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=19HACB04&dlr=HACB&searchstring=jaguar (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=19HACB04&dlr=HACB&searchstring=jaguar)



http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=20PABC01&dlr=PABC&searchstring=audi (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=20PABC01&dlr=PABC&searchstring=audi)


http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=19RAAH02&dlr=RAAH&searchstring=audi (http://www.tpost.com/listing.asp?ad=19RAAH02&dlr=RAAH&searchstring=audi)

Adam
05-19-05, 11:57 AM
ya see i really want a new car and i am considering new either a 05 Mustang or a 05 Cobalt LS Coupe. but these are what i am considering used. i know there are some bmws in there, and you all know im not a bimmer fan but they are in my price range. yeah i know there are only two Cadillacs in there but there arent very many to choose from. they had some 03 CTS' for 27k-29k and i am not going to pay that much for one when for 30k i can get a SL 500. but those are what im considering. what do you all think?

Playdrv4me
05-19-05, 11:58 AM
You have so many different types of cars there its tough to tell what you really want or need. My pick would be the SL500 at the top or any of the 3 Series, or the DTS. Those are all solid cars.

Boombotz
05-19-05, 12:32 PM
http://www.tpost.com/pictures/18EAAL01.jpg2000 MERCEDES 500 SL, BOTH TOPS, V8, LOADED, LEATHER, ALLOYS, IMMACULATE, Champagne, ONE OWNER ,$30,000 FIRM


This is my pick. Nothing else did anything for me. The escalade looks nice, but you have a lot more cars then Suv's which makes me think that's the way your leaning. That Mercedes looks sweet.

powerglide
05-19-05, 01:21 PM
Yeah that SL is good deal!

Play, how's the reliability and maintenance on these things?

Playdrv4me
05-19-05, 01:45 PM
I havent heard that they are any more or less maintenance intensive than the regular Merc's with the same engines. Its a pretty reliable platform and the underpinnings of it are more related to the Pre-2000 S Class than the newer S Class which is a good thing.

Adam
05-19-05, 05:55 PM
i might get that one (if i go used) but it will all depend on where my bank can get the interest rate. if it is too high then i wont be able to afford it (well i could but insurance is what is going to kill me). i can afford up to 550 a month but that is really cutting it close. like said, it will depend on 1) interest and 2) insurance.

that Escalade is pretty nice, ive seen it before (actually i know the previous owner) and know it was taken care of. it is kinda dirty in that picture though. the bimmers, im not a big fan of BMW but they are in my price range. that DTS is pretty sweet but a guy i work with said he test drove it and he thought the tranny was messing up. said it was shifting hard and when he went up a hill it sounded like the gears were grinding.

Adam
05-19-05, 05:56 PM
you just sold your truck didnt you Ian? hell you can go for that Benz if you want, i wouldnt care. my personal favorite is the Audi TT turbo. the only thing im not to fond of is the manual tranny.

Playdrv4me
05-19-05, 08:35 PM
That is a nice Benz isnt it. If it were closer to me or my dealer buddy in Wichita Id probably go for it. Only problem is it doesnt state the mileage, and Id certainly want it to be under 50k miles, and preferrably with Xenon lights, which amazingly were an option even as expensive as that car was new.

c5 rv
05-19-05, 09:01 PM
I also like the 500SL. The problem is, around here, if a car like that is at an independent used car lot for a good price, something is seriously wrong with it.

Adam
05-19-05, 09:22 PM
c5 you make a good point, if the mileage isnt listed i bet its high. i say around 60k- 92k max. i might go down there this weekend and look at it. i am also gonna look at the Audi TT. the only thing that i dont like about that Audi is its manual. i know how to drive manual but i wouldnt like having it as my everyday driver. that is what i am looking for so that i can retire the Fleetwood and get to work on her. when i orginally bought that car i was driving my Lincoln but like a week after i bought it the Lincoln broke down, been driving the Fleetwood ever since. once i finally got the Lincoln rolling again i got the 89 Deville but plans for it have got to start soon and i only drive it 1-2 times a week. the Lincoln is now my brothers (well its still mine but i let him use it cause he has a family now). so i need a new car (or newer) to drive everyday. i looked at getting a 98 Vette but it was sold before i could look at it. there was an 02 but they wanted 35k for it. i need something that isnt going to cost me an arm and a leg cause i still need the money for my Fleetwood (even though it is going to take a couple years before she is completely finished).

if i get a new car it will either be the Cobalt LS Coupe or a new Mustang.

Adam
05-19-05, 09:33 PM
oh and just to tell you guys, i test drove a CTS V the other day (even though i cant afford it) and man it was fun. i had a blast. shoot every red light id take off an just fly. raced a honda boy and killed him. wish i had the money for one of those. the only thing is that damned manual tranny, i couldnt stand to drive a manual all the time.

Ralph
05-19-05, 10:06 PM
I like the beige DTS with chrome rims or a new Mustang GT. :thumbsup:

p.s. I still had that list so you didn't have to look each up again. :)

Adam
05-19-05, 10:15 PM
I like the beige DTS with chrome rims or a new Mustang GT. :thumbsup:

p.s. I still had that list so you didn't have to look each up again. :)

well gee its not to late now- end sarcasm.

that DTS i just heard some horror stories about. a guy i work with test drove it and he said the tranny was messing up. he told me that when he went up hills it sounded like the gears were grinding. i think i posted that, look ^. it has been there for almost seems a year and still hasnt sold. it was first posted last April i think when i looked at that DHS (right before i got the Fleetwood). i didnt know it had problems til that guy in financial counseling (they make damn good money) told me about it.

hey you give me the money and ill go buy that GT!

Ralph
05-20-05, 12:13 AM
hey you give me the money and ill go buy that GT!

SNAP!!

So get the V6, I thought you said it had decent power, etc. I'd rather haver a new car over a used one, even if it's a Ford, but that's just me. :hide:

Playdrv4me
05-20-05, 12:22 AM
Im still rooting for the SL :D

adam_mcd
05-20-05, 12:27 AM
im rootin for the ford escape hyrbid

Adam
05-20-05, 12:28 AM
Im still rooting for the SL :D

how'd i know you were going to say that? that SL might be out of my price range. i am going to call the bank tomorrow and see what they say interest wise and how long the loan would be for. if it is low then ill see insurance. but it might be out of my price range. the new Mustang i already have squared away insurance wise and payment wich is in range and will still give me the flexibility to work on the Fleet. hey Ian you can give me that 33,500.00 you made and ill buy it then. ill pay you back over time... eventually... one day... okay maybe not but still.

Adam
05-20-05, 12:30 AM
im rootin for the ford escape hyrbid

i dont think i picked one of those:hmm:

Adam
05-20-05, 12:34 AM
SNAP!!

So get the V6, I thought you said it had decent power, etc. I'd rather haver a new car over a used one, even if it's a Ford, but that's just me. :hide:

yeah and i will more than likely go that route. and will probably get the Mustang. im just not sure if that is what i really want. i really want another luxury car like a Benz or a Caddy. but yet i cant afford a new one and a sorta new used one in my price range would be almost perfect. see my crossroad there? that is why i posted this (beside you saying i should) so i could get some of my closest friends advice.

Playdrv4me
05-20-05, 12:37 AM
Id say if you cant get the SL, then maybe a CLK430 Cabrio? Or a 325i Convertible? Its too bad the new Mustang GT Convertible isnt a few years old already or you could pick one up for a steal. As it is they are about 30k, in a years time you can probably pick one up for 25.

Ralph
05-20-05, 01:19 AM
yeah and i will more than likely go that route. and will probably get the Mustang. im just not sure if that is what i really want. i really want another luxury car like a Benz or a Caddy. but yet i cant afford a new one and a sorta new used one in my price range would be almost perfect. see my crossroad there? that is why i posted this (beside you saying i should) so i could get some of my closest friends advice.

Maybe Ians right, if you really want a Benz, go with the most affordable, lowest mileage model imo. Either way, test drive as many as you can and then it would be interesting to read your reviews/comments on each. Don't rush in and think it through...be cool like Elvis, no rush..


Ian, what are you driving now that you sold the truck??

Jesda
05-20-05, 04:06 AM
LS V8 is a steal at 20k. But at 30k, the SL is irresistible.

davesdeville
05-20-05, 04:11 AM
Get an LS8, they're pretty nice and as Jesda said the 20k one looks to be a good deal.

I think you'd get used to driving a manual as a daily driver. It's like second nature. I really want a manual, they're so much more fun, I might just have to go junkyard hunting for a Getrag 284.

davesdeville
05-20-05, 04:12 AM
SNAP!!

So get the V6, I thought you said it had decent power, etc. I'd rather haver a new car over a used one, even if it's a Ford, but that's just me. :hide:

A friend of mine has a brand new Aveo. I'm sure you could trade your dads DTS for it because it's used and the Aveo is new. :yup:

powerglide
05-20-05, 07:24 AM
Check out the certified preowned world......that gets you best of both worlds.
99-00 SL500's are about 34000 list around here, I bet if you went to the right one at the right time you can negotiate something.

Again, I think the 2002-Q45's a freakin bargain right now.

I drove a CPO (had the original warranty PLUS the CPO 3 years/36K miles bumpeer-to-bumper) 2002 with 20K miles on the clock, they were listed as $28K!
Rear backup camera, 3D navigation, voice activated AC/Radio/Nav, 14 HID's, reclining rear seats, 18 inch sport rims, adjustable shocks, 350 HP, etc etc

powerglide
05-20-05, 07:28 AM
SNAP!!

So get the V6, I thought you said it had decent power, etc. I'd rather haver a new car over a used one, even if it's a Ford, but that's just me. :hide:

dunno.....something about a 6 cylinder mustang.....just ain't right.
Its very renta-car.

I'd rather spend the dough on a used Jag or something for sure.

The new car part of the experience wears off in a few months, then all you'll have is a used v6 poser mustang thats depreciating like Lindsay Lohan.

Playdrv4me
05-20-05, 08:23 AM
I actually dont have too much of a problem with the six banger mustang except for the fact its tinny and noisy as hell. Ive not been in too many a six cylinder car that has a more noisy engine. It just brings the whole feel of the car down to me.

You might want to look at something fuel efficient and reliable like Im doing... You know me as well as everyone else here and I like the flashy powerful stuff too, but this time I want to take a break and just get back into something comfy that fits like a glove and handles well. So Im checking out cheep BMW's like this one...

http://www.getauto.com/cardetail.html?vin=WBADT43411GF59127&searchCriteria=BROWSEPROCESS|yes/DESIRED_PAGE|1/DISTANCE|200/MAKE|6/MODEL|172/SEARCHLEVEL|3/SEARCHTYPE|car/SORT|Year/WHICHWAY|DESC/ZIP_CODE|67202

Thats more than enough car for me, if a bit slow.

powerglide
05-20-05, 09:24 AM
Used to have a 525i, it doesn't have much torque of the line but pulls like a beast when the rev climbs. I loved it. Something about the sound of free reving classic BMW 6 cylinder is beautiful. I have a set of clear corner lens headlights for that car that I am getting ready to sell, lemme know if you want em. (they are OEM off a 00 M5)

Playdrv4me
05-20-05, 11:03 AM
Yup, actually I decided to take it one step further and get a 530 perhaps instead. I loved the 3.0 I6 in my 330i, so I figure its still sufficient in the 5 series. I considered a 540, but really where BMW shines is there world-class six cylinder engines, their V8s are nice, but nothing to write home about.

I found one in nice condition for 21,500 in St. Louis, custom wheel package and everything. The only thing I really want is Xenon lights. I dont even like the BMW Navigation unit so I dont mind not having it.

http://images.autotrader.com/images/2005/4/15/181/119/1393066472.181119082.IM1.MAIN.565x421_A.562x421.jp g

Elvis
05-20-05, 02:18 PM
If I were 20 and looking for a vehicle, I would go with the BMW 3-series, or a Mercedes CLK. They both have very functional back seats, but not so big that they ruin the look or the performance of the car.

Ralph
05-20-05, 07:06 PM
A friend of mine has a brand new Aveo. I'm sure you could trade your dads DTS for it because it's used and the Aveo is new. :yup:

What?? The DTS isn't mine to trade. Dad's DTS only has 500 kms and should still be worth 35-40 Cdn (70 new) and I sure as hell wouldn't trade it on an Aveo! A Mustang GT maybe.

Sidenote: went with a buddy to test drive one of those new torch red GT's today and the salesman wouldn't let us!!! He gave us a bs line that "well, we want to keep the miles off them because they are rare and hard to order in because of a shortage." At least I got to fire it up and it sure sounds powerful.

They lost a future sale! I thought Ford encouraged people to come in for a testdrive?! Very disappointed with that particular dealership! :mad:

davesdeville
05-20-05, 07:35 PM
Yeah that's my point Ralph. New pieces of crap aren't better than used nice cars.

Adam
05-20-05, 11:31 PM
Dave- i agree that manuals are fun but i dont like driving them that much. i test drove a CTS V and it was fun but i wouldnt own it cause its manual. i had to drive from Kingsport to Abingdon one day with a friends car that is manual and man it got old quick (Abingdon is about 1 hr from me give or take).

Ian- if i get a car that is fuel efficient it will probably be a new Cobalt. when i first seen one i didnt figure i'd like it but i test drove it and man it was great. so if i go fuel efficient then that is what ill go with. that v6 Mustang was pretty fun. had power when needed and was fairly torquey. i loved it and will most likely buy one. i called my insurance company today and they were supposed to get back with me today about the insurance on the SL but they never called back. im gonna see monday what it is. there was a nice CLK 230 (is that right?) at a local dealership and they only wanted 23k (2002). im still looking though, havent decided if i want a used luxury car or a new Cobalt/ Mustang.

Adam
05-20-05, 11:34 PM
that bimmer is pretty nice Ian. i looked at a few of those bimmers today and they were pretty nice but im not a bmw fan. i could care less if i owned one or not. i did test drive that Audi today and boy it was nice but that damn manual tranny just... yuck... hate them. nice choice on the 525i though, not a bad lookin car. and if thats your thing go for it.

Ralph
05-21-05, 12:48 AM
Yeah that's my point Ralph. New pieces of crap aren't better than used nice cars.


That doesn't mean I would trade on an Aveo.....give me some credit or class. There are other NICER new cars. :shhh:

Ralph
05-21-05, 12:50 AM
that bimmer is pretty nice Ian. i looked at a few of those bimmers today and they were pretty nice but im not a bmw fan. i could care less if i owned one or not. i did test drive that Audi today and boy it was nice but that damn manual tranny just... yuck... hate them. nice choice on the 525i though, not a bad lookin car. and if thats your thing go for it.

Ashley would prefer to cruise in a black Mustang convertable. ;) What colour would you get. I saw Torch Red today at the dealership and it's beautiful, like a pastel red and not too "bloody." :thumbsup:

davesdeville
05-21-05, 04:26 AM
I always point and laugh at the V6 Mustang boys..

Ralph
05-21-05, 05:04 AM
I always point and laugh at the V6 Mustang boys..

Would you rather he bought a German car?! :annoyed:


Not that there's anything wrong with that. :shhh: :hide:

But seriously, 210 hp from a V6 Mustang is pretty good. the older V6's were like slugs compared to this.

davesdeville
05-21-05, 05:37 AM
And this is a slug compared to the V8. Come on, V6 'stangs are for girls and car rental companies. They run about a 15.8 last I heard for Pete's sake. They are an improvement over the old 3.8s though, at least the new V6s can beat the Corsica de la Muerte.

Playdrv4me
05-21-05, 10:14 AM
The CLK would be the CLK320, CLK430, CLK500 and CLK55 AMG. CLK is the mid-sized Mercedes Coupe/Convert. that is based on the E-Class, both new and old. The SLK would be SLK230 and SLK32 AMG and is the "Miata" sized Merc. If your looking at an SLK Id actually recommend going for a Chrysler Crossfire instead. Same car, cheaper, and better looking in my estimation, especially now that the SLK has been replaced with something much nicer in the SLK350.

I feel you on the BMW thing. I used to like Mercedes more than BMW but lately Ive really become disenchanted with Mercedes with alot of their new designs, problems and the fact that they are building cars for the masses rather than the core audience some of their cars were originally targeted for, like the old stodgy capable and military based G-Wagen... now being replaced by something closer to a Ford Expedition than an H1.

With BMW... their designs have gone to crap lately, but the cars are still true to their driving heritage. In my mind there are few things that have the gritty driving feel of a BMW, I just love the way they handle and mix luxury with driving ability. Their I6 motors are an amazing piece of work.

Ralph... Who is the new hottie?

Ralph
05-21-05, 04:02 PM
Ralph... Who is the new hottie?

Just a "filler-inner." named Evita. Here is the full size pic just for you Ian :thumbsup:

I was very impressed with the comfort and support of the Mustang seats. To me, that's one of the most important factors because no one can enjoy a car if they are squirming all the time. (like I was in the Grand Marquis!)

Adam
05-21-05, 04:45 PM
And this is a slug compared to the V8. Come on, V6 'stangs are for girls and car rental companies. They run about a 15.8 last I heard for Pete's sake. They are an improvement over the old 3.8s though, at least the new V6s can beat the Corsica de la Muerte.

if you give me the extra money for the v8 then ill buy it :D . until then sorry, im going with the v6. it was a blast driving the v8 but if i want to drop that kind of money then ill go elsewhere, like a used vette. im not a big fan of Ford, i like the new Mustang cause it resembles the old ones. that is about the only reason.

Ian yeah it was an SLK 230. it was red and a real nice car. i drove it and it just hummed. unfortunately it has already sold. also if i go used ill be looking at a last generation Eldo (or Benz).

Ralph
05-21-05, 04:47 PM
a last generation Eldo.

Now there's an idea! They are so rare.

Adam
05-21-05, 04:59 PM
there was, at one time, a whole lot of them around here for sale. now they are all gone again. i talked to the salesman at the local Caddy dealer and he told me alot of people that bought these things 3 years ago are trading them in for CTS' and STS' (even though ive only seen 2 STS' around). i have seen 4 XLR's can you believe that!?!?! but anyway the salesman said that their used inventory had at one time 4 2000-02 Eldos and that they were making pretty good money off of them. they did have a few Devilles/ DHS'/ DTS' but those arent selling that well and the cars arent holding resale very good. he said it would be hell when the new DTS drops soon. (he said when but i dont remember know). he told me the craziest thing he has seen was some guy traded in a brand new CTS he bought for his son for graduation on a new Cobalt. his son wanted the new Cobalt so he could do "more stuff to it and didnt want an old mans car." i laughed my but off and really couldnt believe it. they sold the car 2 days later. they had an 02 Seville and an 04 or 05 SRX in the used lot (also an 04 Escalade).

Ralph
05-21-05, 05:03 PM
some guy traded in a brand new CTS he bought for his son for graduation on a new Cobalt. his son wanted the new Cobalt so he could do "more stuff to it and didnt want an old mans car."

:helpless: :bonkers:

Playdrv4me
05-21-05, 05:06 PM
Stupid kids.

BTW Ralphie... thx for the pic... shes a hottie!!

Adam
05-21-05, 05:10 PM
my thoughts exactly. when he told me that i just laughed and thought, whatta friggin idiot. he must be a honda boy or something cause who in the hell would trade a CTS for a Cobalt. there is a doctor here at the hospital who bought a brand new (well new at the time) EXT for his son for graduation. told him whatever he wanted on it though he had to get for himself. that boy has done a lot to it too. he had to get a job and pays his insurance. it is now sittin on 24s, lowered, bad sound system/ tvs and all that stuff. just cause daddy bought him a new lade doesnt mean he is spoiled. he had to work hard for it (had to make straight As) and had to get a job to do all the stuff he wanted and pay the insurance. oh, daddy is a neurosurgeon.

davesdeville
05-21-05, 05:11 PM
if you give me the extra money for the v8 then ill buy it :D . until then sorry, im going with the v6. it was a blast driving the v8 but if i want to drop that kind of money then ill go elsewhere, like a used vette. im not a big fan of Ford, i like the new Mustang cause it resembles the old ones. that is about the only reason.


I couldn't buy a new V6 mustang. If I were interested in a mustang I'd take a V8 with a few miles on it over a new V6. I guess if you only like the 05 styling you're stuck with a V6 though.

Ralph
05-21-05, 05:17 PM
BTW Ralphie... thx for the pic... shes a hottie!!

My pleasure. I'll send you some nice Avril pics for possible avatarts. :yup: :thumbsup:

Adam
05-21-05, 05:24 PM
I couldn't buy a new V6 mustang. If I were interested in a mustang I'd take a V8 with a few miles on it over a new V6. I guess if you only like the 05 styling you're stuck with a V6 though.

eww i hate all the old ones. that last gen body style is terrible. the v6 is about all i can afford (payment wise and insurance wise). besides im not big into performance and all that like you are so... im just in for an everyday driver that looks nice, is affordable, and is ok on gas.

davesdeville
05-21-05, 09:03 PM
Then why were you all complainey about the Zephyr only having 210hp? Sheesh you confuse me.

Adam
05-21-05, 10:38 PM
with that i was just saying why only that much when you can get the same out of a v6 mustang? like why pay more? if that is what they are gearing for, a younger audience that is into all that hp junk.

Playdrv4me
05-21-05, 10:48 PM
Well I think the Zephyr should provide at least as much HP as the CTS 3.6. Lincoln is not doing themselves any favors by introducing the Zephyr while leaving the LS in place. They are close to eachother in size and features so thatll just create confusion, and the LS has the much nicer V8.

Im still a little baffled by that decision. Lincoln didnt need lower end cars, they need a BETTER Navigator and better HIGH end options, much like Caddy has the STS and DTS.

Ralph
05-21-05, 10:50 PM
Then why were you all complainey about the Zephyr only having 210hp? Sheesh you confuse me.

Maybe the Mustang is lighter, and would move faster with that hp. Either way, the Mustang feels VERY sporty sitting in it and the Zephyr will be boring as hell.

davesdeville
05-22-05, 03:21 AM
Well I think the Zephyr should provide at least as much HP as the CTS 3.6. Lincoln is not doing themselves any favors by introducing the Zephyr while leaving the LS in place. They are close to eachother in size and features so thatll just create confusion, and the LS has the much nicer V8.

That's exactly why Zephyr has only 210hp, you want more? Get an LS8. Again, Zephyr and some of its competition:

06 Zephyr = 210hp and 3404 pounds.
05 BMW 325i sedan = 184hp and 3300 pounds.
05 CTS 2.8L = 210hp and around 3500 pounds.
05 Lexus IS = 215hp and 3300-3400 pounds.

While I'm at it:
05 Mustang V6 = 210hp and 3350 pounds. (Mustang has 40 more ft.lbs. torque so it will take the Zephyr from a stoplight, maybe a tenth or 2 in the quarter)

adam_mcd
05-22-05, 04:06 AM
15.8 for a v6? thats not bad when you weigh all the factors. shit, why waste more money for a few more seconds? ...but honestly id rather get a v8 than a v6, but im a lil speed fart. i can understand why a v6 would be better for ya.

Adam
05-22-05, 02:45 PM
yeah that is the point i was trying to make with the Zephyr. tomorrow i am going to test drive a few and we'll see. i went by the Buick dealership earlier and they had a REAL NICE SRX sittin on 22s in it was black but i couldnt tell interior wise but it was sharp. they had a few Caddies there actually. ill let you all know something tomorrow.

davesdeville
05-22-05, 07:40 PM
What is the point you were trying to make with the Zephyr? You said it didn't have enough HP, then I say it competes well, then you say "yeah that's the point I was trying to make."

Adam
05-24-05, 06:05 PM
Well I think the Zephyr should provide at least as much HP as the CTS 3.6. Lincoln is not doing themselves any favors by introducing the Zephyr while leaving the LS in place. They are close to eachother in size and features so thatll just create confusion, and the LS has the much nicer V8.

^ that is the point im trying to make with the Zephyr. now onto what this thread is supposed to be about:

i test drove so many cars yesterday, my head is still spinning and i am confused as ever. the SL 500 all i can say is DAMN. man that thing rode like a dream. miles werent too high although i can't really remember how many but it was in the ball park of where it should have been. shoot that thing was fast. they werent going to let me test drive it at first but when they seen how interested i was in it they decided to let me. very fun car but unfortunately im going to have to cross it off the list. insurance was going to be sky high and they wouldnt budge on the price. even though it said firm in the ad i was hoping to talk them down. i told them 27k and id walk out the door with it today but they said no. i drove that Audi TT and it was a blast to drive but the manual tranny just got on my nerves (especially when i was driving at lunch hour and it was stop and go traffic). not pictured that i test drove was a 96 BMW 740 I or IL (dont remember). black on black but they wanted 13k and it had over 120k miles so i said no thanks. i test drove those beamers and they were pretty nice actually. i was impressed (still not a bmw fan though) and am considering. i drove that 94 Benz and it was pretty nice but the mileage was over 130k i think (not real sure). test drove a few others on the list (including the Caddies). the Escalade was cool and am considering but that DTS did shift hard and when i went up hill i could feel it lagging. it felt like it didnt want to shift out of gear. also when letting off the gas it would go "CLUNK CLUNK", so i said thanks for the ride see ya. i did see a SRX on some 22s (i think) but i wasnt going to ask about that price. test drove a CTS (3.6) and it was nice but they wanted 29k. well some of those cars im still considering even though i will probably be going new Mustang or Cobalt.