Where are the onstar tracking device(s) located on the 2005 STS cars?

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That's classified information. :sneaky:

That's classified information. :sneaky:



Are you serious??

If you're not a GM tech,what would you need to know that info for?

Are you serious??No, I'm just funnin. I like to joke about OnStar being 'Big Brother' and hope it isn't true! lol!

:hide: and don't tamper with mattress tags either.

If you're not a GM tech,what would you need to know that info for?

The reason I ask is becuase I am fixing a 2005 STS that has a problem with the onstar system and/or some of the computer functions. This is the first time I have ever worked on the new 2005 model and I was't sure were all of them were. My manager was supposed to get a diagram from onstar but it hasn't came yet. So with that said does anyone know were all of them are?

Thanks

Usually all the problems with On-star is the Antenna cable. Tech assist will not even help the dealers untill they replace the coxial cable.

If you are a dealer, which I assume you are, you can get the complete schematics on SI2000. Its listed under Celluar Communications. you can do a search on the home page.

You know their listening, SHHHH:worship: :hide: :tisk:

If you're not a GM tech,what would you need to know that info for?

So what if he isn't a "GM Tech" (it appears as if he is, though). Believe it or not GM doesn't own the car, nor does OnStar. Despite GM's best efforts, consumers can, if they choose, repair their own cars. For now anyway. You don't have to be a "GM Tech" to understand how it works and how to fix it. Even the stuff that watches you.

Jim

No u do not have to be a GM tech, but in the same aspect GM does not have to build the vehicle so that none GM tech can work on them. No matter how u put it, you can not upload information to GM cars without a Tech 2. I pefer to give my buiness to the dealers, I have seen more independent hack jobs come through the dealers.

Customer complains of a overheating condition, independents want a water pump, thermostat, radiator, and a flush, before they diagnosis and tell you that the head bolts pulled out of the block. You need to take it to a GM store because we are not equipped for thoses kind of repairs. Then the customer come in and want the repairs goodwilled back to factory. It was ok for them to go to a Indy shop and pay them a fortune to fix nothing but the dealers should have to work for free. Seen some dealers do it and some put the customers in there place.

My favorite ones is when the Indy bring the cars to the dealers because they do not know whats wrong with them or how to work on them. See that way to often.

My favorite ones is when the Indy bring the cars to the dealers because they do not know whats wrong with them or how to work on them. See that way to often.

It doesn't have to be that way. It's not that the cars are terribly complex, it's that GM is manufacturing them in such a way that you need proprietary tools (Tech2) to diagnose and repair them. They want you to bring the car to the dealer - not an independent or gawd forbid to try to repair it yourself. There's a grassroots effort (I forget the name of the group and website) to try to make the Tech2 information available to the general public (consumers and independent garages) without spending thousands of dollars on the tool and software. I'm not a fan of automotive 'professionals' whether independent or at the stealer. With all due respect to the good ones, I've run into too many bad ones to place any faith in them. Anyone can plug in a computer, ask it what the problem is and repair it accordingly. Anything more complex than that, like diagnosing NVH for example, and I find that the playing field is even among dealers, independents and my own skills (with the aid of a factory service manual).

I'm going through a bunch of crap on my new 'Yota right now. It has a coolant leak that the dealer can't find. They plug a scan tool into it and it says it's okay. I smell coolant and see the level drop. They say there's nothing wrong with it.

My local Caddy dealer was really great in reprogramming my DTS after the flood. However, it was all software work - no real diagnosis or labor. I could've saved over $1,500 if I had access to the scan tool and software, even if I had to pay a few hundred for it.

But I digress....sorry.

Jim

they will make the Tech 2 available to the public in a couple years, because the technology is obsolute. GM will be switching to Personal laptop system with wireless technology for the dealers.