: Katshot's brakes



carguy16
05-13-05, 09:32 PM
Katshot,

Tell us your current brake set up, specifically brand of rotors and pads, etc...

It seems that I can only order Raybesto's brand brakes online, I cant pick them up at Advance Auto Parts or NAPA.

I dont want to get drilled rotors, I only want slotted, but cant find slotted rotors at all, and I refuse to lose my ABS.

I have been told ceramic pads are only good for no noise or brake dust, but they you lose brake performance do to these.

Semi-metallic is supposedly the best way to go. I have been looking at high priced regular rotors for $50.00 bucks all the way up to $90.00(Bendix), I did find cheap rotors for around $30.00 a piece.

I was looking at these ceramic pad's by Bendix:

Bendix CT-3 brake pads provide the optimum combination of ceramic technology and organic friction to virtually eliminate dust and noise. Offering smooth braking, fade-resistant performance and low rotor wear, Bendix CT-3 brake pads are equipped with angled chamfers and premium noise insulators. These thermally bonded insulators include a noise damping system with a silicone core affixed between two layers of galvanized steel. They are rubber coated and attached with a silicone adhesive to absorb more noise than conventional products. Bendix CT-3 brake pads are designed specifically for those customers who desire higher performance and first-rate aesthetics.

Features:

Thermally bonded insulators with a five-layer noise damping system
Advanced organic friction formula
Angled chamfers improve contact profile and pad's surface
Advantages:

Smooth braking
Fade-resistant performance
Low rotor wear
Benefits:

Less dust on wheels
Ultra-quiet braking
Greater customer satisfaction due to high performance
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Is this true? Please steer me in the best direction.

Also, both calipers will be replaced, both front brake lines will be replaced too, and bearings will be replacked. Your expert opinion is important, thanks!:thumbsup:

Oh, if you go to http://www.partsamerica.com (http://www.partsamerica.com/) and search for item no or SKU: MKD52SFM , would those fit my Fleetwood? They measeure the same size as other standard pads according to the picture, but they say heavy duty? That pair is a $50.00 set of Bendix brake pads.

With the heavy duty option, was it only the rear drums that were bigger?

N0DIH
05-13-05, 09:59 PM
In the effort to make his car go faster Katshot eliminated the brakes....

1. Less rotating mass, 1/4 mile times are faster
2. Less energy to get the car in motion, so better fuel economy.
3. Less fuel burned, so better emissions.
4. Absolutely no drag on the rotors, so fuel economy is also improved.
5. Just think, with that over 100 lbs of wasted weight how much lighter the Fleetwood is now!

13's are easy now!

Lets start a trend!!!

Katshot
05-14-05, 01:39 PM
That would be fun huh. Just might hit a 13 then.
To be honest, I'm using Auto Specialty cross-drilled rotors and custom pads. I know a guy that owns a brake shop and he did them for me. I've had good success with Performance Friction pads too but they DID give me a little squeal so that's why I did these custom pads. As long as I keep my rear shoes adjusted, the car stops real good. As for the pads you asked about, any D52 or 615 pads will work. I "think" it's a 615 pad anways. They're the ones spec'd for Impala SS and police cars. Same backing but larger friction material (covers more of the backing plate). If I were going to go for the best braking, I'd upgrade to a Baer conversion kit for the fronts. I was going to do it but got cold feet. I recently had a freind (Bill Harper) convince me that what I had "heard" was incorrect about them causing an increase in front track so I might go back after them myself.

carguy16
05-14-05, 04:49 PM
So, are you running 615 pads? I can only find the D52 pads for the Fleetwood, I want to order some $58.99 Raybestors Super Stop. Yes, the 615 pads do go with the Impala SS according to http://www.partsamerica.com


That would be fun huh. Just might hit a 13 then.
To be honest, I'm using Auto Specialty cross-drilled rotors and custom pads. I know a guy that owns a brake shop and he did them for me. I've had good success with Performance Friction pads too but they DID give me a little squeal so that's why I did these custom pads. As long as I keep my rear shoes adjusted, the car stops real good. As for the pads you asked about, any D52 or 615 pads will work. I "think" it's a 615 pad anways. They're the ones spec'd for Impala SS and police cars. Same backing but larger friction material (covers more of the backing plate). If I were going to go for the best braking, I'd upgrade to a Baer conversion kit for the fronts. I was going to do it but got cold feet. I recently had a freind (Bill Harper) convince me that what I had "heard" was incorrect about them causing an increase in front track so I might go back after them myself.

HotRodSaint
05-14-05, 05:00 PM
They're the ones spec'd for Impala SS and police cars. Same backing but larger friction material (covers more of the backing plate).

I'm pretty sure that the Caprice Police Car's (9C1) got different front calipers that are designed to be used with the thicker pads.

I'm also pretty certain that the caliper's on our car's and the Impala SS are the same part number.


Anyways that aside, Summitracing (http://www.summitracing.com/) , has Power Stop (TRW) (http://www.powerstoprotors.com/) slotted rotors for the Impala SS.



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Katshot
05-15-05, 12:12 AM
Sorry, you're catching me off guard here but I thonk if you check it out, you'll see that there are two different numbers, a D52 and a 615 (or is it a 614) and both fit the stock calipers. The only difference is the size (in square inches) of the friction material. The backing plate is the same on both. I know there's applications on at least some Caprice police cars and some Impala SS's. God I hate questions like this when I'm at home away from my manuals!!!!!!!!!! :annoyed:

attilahooper
05-19-05, 08:51 AM
I have http://www.PowerSlot.com rotors installed on the front of my '95 9C1, good stopping power. Perfectly satisfied customers.

carguy16
05-20-05, 08:58 PM
Katshot,


When you do get home, please lemme know the spec's of those larger 9c1 pads, and if they will fit my car. I was looking at Raybesto's rotor model numbers for my car, they matched the same rotor for an Impala SS.


Sorry, you're catching me off guard here but I thonk if you check it out, you'll see that there are two different numbers, a D52 and a 615 (or is it a 614) and both fit the stock calipers. The only difference is the size (in square inches) of the friction material. The backing plate is the same on both. I know there's applications on at least some Caprice police cars and some Impala SS's. God I hate questions like this when I'm at home away from my manuals!!!!!!!!!! :annoyed:

carguy16
05-20-05, 09:19 PM
My neighbor is doing my rear brakes for me, he said that someone dropped my car on the ground. The rear backing plate for the brakes is bent a little on both sides, but he will bang it out with a hammer. You can see on the drums where the side was scraping, its all shiny. My drums are in great shape, I think they dont need turning, they were measured and checked out ok.

SolidGoldsteen
05-23-05, 04:53 AM
I have an ignorant question... What kind of car is "our cars"?

juiceE
05-23-05, 12:34 PM
I Had Adjusted My Drums Twice In Past Week. The 1st Time I Did It, It Felt Like I Had Much Better Braking... But It Went Away Or Back To How It Felt B4 The Day Was Over, So Then I Just Went Under There, And Did Another 5 Clicks, But It Still Feels Like It Went Back To How It "felt" B4 I Ever Adjusted Them.... An I Doing Sumthing Wrong ????