I notice that the connector with part # 15394150 on gmpartsdirect.com is fairly cheap. That really makes me wonder what all is included. Do any or all of the connectors (including this one) include the wires, or is it just the plastic connector end?

If it's just the plastic connector end, then:

1) Do the connectors include the metal clips inside?
2) Where would I get the appropriate wire?
3) How would I crimp the wire into the clips? Is there a special tool?
4) Again, if it's just the plastic connector end, is there a way to order the entire harness...wire and all (from any site)?

Thanks for any info!

Good luck!

The connector is just the connector. You will need to buy the connector, terminal pins, terminal crimper and wire. The problem is most companies that sell these parts only sell in quantity such as 1000 terminal pins etc. and it becomes quite expensive.

You might be able to go to your local dealer and see if they are willing to give you some of these items for a small fee if they have them lying around. Trying to get pins from GMPartsDirect is not going to happen and for each of the connectors there are probably a good 8-10 different pins for these connectors. Different metals, different sizes for different guages of wire etc. You local dealer would probably be best to help you.

The main distributor for these connectors is: http://www.powerandsignal.com

But they only sell the connector is a quantity of 1000 and the pins with a quantity of 11000 (Part # 15394147 (http://www.powerandsignal.com/IDC/DisplayResults.aspx#)). They do have sample packs with quantities of around 100-200 but you will need to be in the electronics field to get those small quantity sample packs.

All terminal/connector parts are available through GMSPO (your dealer). The little metal parts are usually in small quantities like 5 or 10 and cost next to nothing. The crimping tool is the hard part. They are special and usually have to be obtained through Kent-Moore or a local tool man like the Snap-On guy that visits shops etc. I have gotten them from both sources in the past.

Hmm...even more hurdles to jump. :(

So I guess getting a complete wire harness is out of the question?

If I were to build it, it would cost a bunch because I'd have to order way more parts (e.g. 11,000 minimum quantity per package) than I'd need. The big unknown is WHAT kind of crimper? I see I've got a couple of sources to check with, but I don't know what kind of terminal crimper to get.

Hmm...I've got an electrical engineer friend. Maybe he'd have more info....perhaps a source for wire and terminal pins as well? We'll see.

Thanks for the information, guys....and keep it coming, if you have any more!

If you are only doing a handfull of terminals you can do this with a pair of thin needle nose pliers. It wont be the best way but to buy the die and tool would cost you much more money.

This connector is not on the US models, What are you doing with it?

Unless it's REAL special, usually a pair of crimping pliers has the dies for several different connectors.

According to: http://www.ctsowners.com/?page=04connectors that connector is for the XM Tuner. I do not have the XM option installed, so I therefore, do not have the Tuner, nor the corresponding wire harness. There is a product coming out from SoundGate (www.soundgate.com (http://www.soundgate.com/)) that will allow me to use that connector for a SIRIUS Tuner (for a complete factory-installed look). So my goal is to make that harness so that I can get SIRIUS.

Here's another thought: Would a custom car-audio installer be able to take my connector and wire up everything as I needed? I would imagine they might have terminal pins and bulk wire for some of the installations that they do. Think they could swing that for me?

Check with them and find out. Some of these Delphi connectors use specific terminals that are not universal and not used for any other connectors so some audio places might not have them. (I am sure they could easily just solder wires to the radio though) I would first check with your dealer to see if they have any hanging around.

I would not get too excited about soundgate coming up with a working solution because I though the databus had something to do with the xm setup. (Atleast I think thats the way the late models work)

Yeah. As far as I know, the XM unit uses the Class 2 Databus. So, in theory, I'll get Artist and Title info on my radio screen, and also be able to control the Tuner through my radio controls.

SoundGate has already had product out (for months) for several GM vehicles (including: Escalade, DeVille, Grand Prix, Grand Am, Vibe, Aztek, and all Chevrolet vehicles). That includes years 2003 to 2005. I believe the reason that some vehicles have their own versions of the SoundGate device is due to slight differences in each vehicle's Class 2 bus. I know there are people from www.siriusbackstage.com/forum (http://www.siriusbackstage.com/forum) who do have SoundGate units installed in their own vehicles. The CTS version is due out in a month or two. I've been chatting with a representative from SoundGate and he did confirm the 1 to 2 month timeframe for the CTS version...as well as the need for this specific XM connector.

I'll check with my local car-audio installer.

I've also heard that my car will have to be reprogrammed by the dealership. Rumor has it, that the computer has to be TOLD that XM is installed for the Band button to cycle to XM mode (or SIRIUS, in my case). Since my car has no XM (and possibly not programmed to use XM), I've got my eye out for that hurdle, as well.

Thanks!

I hope your right because I would love to switch from XM to Sirius but I guess time will tell.

Indeed, time will tell. I surely hope I'm right as well!

We'll see how this goes.

Thanks so much!