View Full Version : Hood Ornament Alarm, Myth Or Not??


Ralph
04-27-05, 11:03 PM
I want to put the gold plated hood ornament back on my car this summer but I've always been concerned that it might get stolen. I know that when Dad bought this car new, he mentioned something about it having an alarm with the horn but he supposedly told the dealer not to bother hooking it up because the car came with the chrome ornament and he said he would install the gold himself. Since I've had this car I haven't used the gold.

Was there some sort of alarm for these because there are no wires or anything that I can see?

If true, how difficult would it be to rig it up?

Does anyone have an alarm for their hood ornament?

Stoneage_Caddy
04-27-05, 11:17 PM
no alarm ...we have a 5lb ankle biter dog that so damned scared of everything he barks if the grass moves ...and if someone ventures anywhere enar the driveway he lets everything in a 6 block radius know .....thats my hood ornament alarm ...if the damned ornment moves on its own we will know ....

damn dog , dont know weither to kick it or feed it another biscuit

hood ornments are easy to change , only use the gold one for hot dates ....

DopeStar 156
04-27-05, 11:39 PM
I've heard about this thing too, I thought it was part of the alarm system.

Stoneage_Caddy
04-27-05, 11:54 PM
the only way i can figure to wire one would work only when the theif has ripped it off the car ...too little too late

AElayyat
04-28-05, 01:17 AM
I want to put the gold plated hood ornament back on my car this summer but I've always been concerned that it might get stolen. I know that when Dad bought this car new, he mentioned something about it having an alarm with the horn but he supposedly told the dealer not to bother hooking it up because the car came with the chrome ornament and he said he would install the gold himself. Since I've had this car I haven't used the gold.

Was there some sort of alarm for these because there are no wires or anything that I can see?

If true, how difficult would it be to rig it up?

Does anyone have an alarm for their hood ornament?

Hold on guys, there does exist such a device. I have one installed on my 89 Sedan DeVille (when my pops purchased the car it was already there). This device hooks up to the horn some how, and if an a$$hole tries to steal your hood ornament the horn will sound as long as it is not in the normal positon.

I don't think its a factory option as far as I know, it could have been a dealer add on or something along those line.

Go to your local Caddy dealer's parts dept. and tell them you want a hood ornament alarm and they should have it. I got one for my 85 Fleetwood Brougham but never got around to installing it.

DopeStar 156
04-28-05, 01:26 AM
SWEET! How much?!

AElayyat
04-28-05, 02:00 AM
SWEET! How much?!

This was a while back, but I think it was in the range of $40-$50

Ranger
04-28-05, 11:51 AM
I don't beleive it is a dealer option. I suspect it was home made. Not too difficult to do. It should be nothing more than hooking the horn wires up so that when the crest is lifted, they make contact and sound the horns.

Birdie
04-28-05, 12:46 PM
Years ago I had a 79 cougar with a cool big ornament, After about 3 ripped off and no patience left here was the cobble solution:
Since the front nose was fiberglass a electric fence charger was installed under the hood and connected to the ornament. When the car was parked I had a switch to turn the charger on. Had the ornament crooked a few times after, But neve lost one again..

On a caddy, The ornament is connected to the metal hood thus grounding, It would need some electical insulation to work but as a desperate measure could probably be done...

If nothing else maybe everyone will get a chuckle out of this past desperate solution I had....

DopeStar 156
04-28-05, 01:40 PM
Hahahaha! I like that idea better.

LuvCads
04-28-05, 02:53 PM
It would be cool if mine had the alarm for that!!!

I find the hood ornament really sets the car off style-wise. Looking out as you cruise along & seeing that big symbol.

My anti-theft system consists of 2 pitbulls, you can't walk by the house & they're in the window barking their heads off LOL.

powerglide
04-28-05, 03:50 PM
LOL! Yeah...I thought of that too. In fact I recall a thread on this
forum a LONG WHILE back, where we discussed this. Some had mentioned this
electrical shock method (although it had something to do with wiring it
directly to the battery) and some mentioned shapening the bottom of the
ornament to slice the fingers of the crooks.....but in the end we all
agreed it was an accident/lawsuit waiting to happen. Old lady crossing
the street, grabs it and keels over scenario.

Wiring it to the horn seems ideal! (unless you get one of those
RollsRoyce electrical retract ornaments....those are so cool!)

Ranger
04-28-05, 05:16 PM
I recall a thread about this a while back (maybe on caddyinfo). A guy attatched razor blades to the bulldog ornament on a Dodge I think it was. Worked very well as he found blood all over the hood. The ornament was still there but his windshield was smashed. I think it is best to scare 'em away rather than piss 'em off. They'll usually want revenge.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
04-28-05, 05:30 PM
a buddy of mine had a hood ornament alarm on his 1990 Sedan Deville. I dont have the hood ornament alarm, but i do have the security package which includes the regular alarm. Its a great feature, i would be afraid to have a Caddy without the alarm.

DaveSmed
04-28-05, 09:29 PM
I have installed one. Definitely not a home made device, but definitely an add-on. Found it in the junkyard.

powerglide
04-28-05, 10:22 PM
Sorry, I accidentally deleted your question because I clicked the wrong button. If you remember repost it.
-DopeStar 156-


Damned Dopestar!? ;-)

I know it wasn't a question, more a comment.....it was kinda long winded.

Anyone have a quote of what I posted? (on your email/response reminder)

No biggie....

DopeStar 156
04-28-05, 10:42 PM
LOL! Sorry. Being a mod I have "EDIT" buttons for everyone's posts. I brainlessly clicked that, and edited your post instead of quoting it which was what I wanted to do.

Stoneage_Caddy
04-29-05, 12:37 AM
ok fixed it for you guys

Ralph
04-29-05, 12:41 AM
hmmmm thanks. Still can't figure out of it was a factory offered or dealer installed option because I coulda swore the salesman mentioned something about it to my Dad back then. Sandy, where are you??

I'll get around to phoning the Caddy dealership and ask if they have them sometime.

Stoneage_Caddy
04-29-05, 12:46 AM
ill do the same ralph ....if i can get one of those ill spring for a new ornment ...140,000 miles has taken its toll on the "cripsness" of the ornment , the plastic has pitted and faded to hell and no ammount fo polish has been able to help it ...

powerglide
04-29-05, 12:58 AM
Thank you sir!

Adam
04-29-05, 01:10 AM
i might buy one of those flush mounted hood ornaments like the ones on the cars with night vision. those are hard to steal i hear but not sure. after mine got stolen i ordered another one but unfortunately it is chrome and not gold and they didnt offer a gold ornament between 93-96 for the Fleetwoods. i am going to order all new symbols (the new style) and put them all around save for the one on the trunk, but all that will have to wait until i replace the top on mine. i am going with a white landau top.

CadiJeff
04-29-05, 01:14 AM
I don't think its a factory option as far as I know, it could have been a dealer add on or something along those line.

ding ding ding we have a winner I remember the demo unit on the salesmans desk when my grandmother bought the 90 eldo spring ed. in 1989

jspeaect
04-29-05, 02:12 AM
My 93 has a hood ornament alarm...didn't realize it until I was washing it one day...scared the crap out of me!

Ralph
04-29-05, 02:26 AM
My 93 has a hood ornament alarm...didn't realize it until I was washing it one day...scared the crap out of me!

LOL!!! :histeric:

What do you have? Fleetwood, Deville?

jspeaect
04-29-05, 09:37 AM
93 SD 44k Academy Gray/Burgandy w/ $700 worth of a bad torque converter

DopeStar 156
04-29-05, 06:14 PM
I was just at my local dealer and they had no idea what I was talking about. They've never heard of a hood orniment alarm.

Ralph
04-29-05, 06:19 PM
I saw your post Dope and it reminded me to phone just now.

Anyway the parts guy said they were never offered on NEW Cadillacs but they were offered as sort of an "aftermarket" installation. They haven't carried them for a number of years now but they did sell them to Cadillac owners who wanted them. So our Cadillac dealership knows about them.

interesting.

upstate
04-29-05, 06:44 PM
I know after market alarms are sold that will alarm the hood ornament. Some older Rolls Royce if you touched the ornament it would drop down into the grill. Spring loaded like a mouse trap. The new rolls will electronically have an alarm and electronically pull it down into the grill. Caddy never had the alarm feature straight from the factory.

Ralph
04-29-05, 06:47 PM
I know after market alarms are sold that will alarm the hood ornament. Some older Rolls Royce if you touched the ornament it would drop down into the grill. Spring loaded like a mouse trap. The new rolls will electronically have an alarm and electronically pull it down into the grill. Caddy never had the alarm feature straight from the factory.

So how would you polish the hood ornament on the Rolls? That's wild!

DopeStar 156
04-30-05, 12:22 AM
So how would you polish the hood ornament on the Rolls? That's wild!
Haha you don't I guess. I also pushed the Hotbutton today in a blue Yukon. Needless to say I lost.

Ralph
04-30-05, 12:39 AM
Here's a thought, I'm tempted to crazy glue the part that moves in the base of the ornament so that no one could flex it to cut the spring retainer with a pair of wire cutters to get the actual ornament! The problem might be that if it gets bent I'd have to change the whole thing, but it wouldn't really matter because you change the whole thing with one hex nut anyway back to the silver one?

DopeStar 156
04-30-05, 01:51 AM
Naah, it's not worth it. I'd just look for the alarm on eBay or something like that. I'm sure they're out there.

Ralph
04-30-05, 02:08 AM
Naah, it's not worth it. I'd just look for the alarm on eBay or something like that. I'm sure they're out there.

I won't buy off the net.

A little dab will do 'er. :)

nphoenix
04-30-05, 05:50 PM
on my 75 eldo convertable, afiter it was de-ornamented... i rigged myself a sensor.

I had laying around a few older generic carberator throttle springs (about a buck at the parts store). They bend easy so I mounted a mini toggle switch (lots of sheet metal skin on the '75) with the toggle handle down. One end of the caperator srint i tightened up the "eye loop" and poped a rivet with a washer to hold it. I then bent a loop arount the toggle handle and then bent a loop around the ornament base holde rcatch. Now tilting the ornament back pulls on the toggle. Its wired to the horn.

Ranger
04-30-05, 07:00 PM
See, I told ya it was easy. A little inginuity, some wire and a few cheap parts.

Ralph
05-01-05, 05:48 PM
See, I told ya it was easy. A little inginuity, some wire and a few cheap parts.

Glue is easier. :sneaky:

Ranger
05-01-05, 06:57 PM
Glue is easier. :sneaky:
Roger that. And a lot more satisfaction.

DopeStar 156
05-02-05, 01:16 AM
I've looked all over the net and can't find ONE for sale!

Ralph
05-02-05, 01:34 AM
None??? Ebay? Any other car places where you can look?

I just bolted the gold one on there tonite and daymn it looks good!! It's still mint but I don't care because I'm tired of looking at the silver one. It was probably stupid but I put some crazy glue around the round base so hopefully it will harden overnight. There seems to be a clear coating on the gold.

If someone does steal it I hope I can get another hood ornament from the Cadillac dealer and it won't cost too much.

powerglide
05-02-05, 02:07 AM
I'm not sure that crazy glue's gonna help much......if they're gonna steal it, that's probably not gonna stop em.

I wonder if there's a big enough market for a hood ornament alarm if we get a little kit together?

Ralph
05-02-05, 02:12 AM
I'm not sure that crazy glue's gonna help much......if they're gonna steal it, that's probably not gonna stop em.

I wonder if there's a big enough market for a hood ornament alarm if we get a little kit together?

Ya know, I find it strange that the base Deville gets a nice hood ornament but the DTS upscale doesn't! I like them but overall manufacturers don't use them much anymore. I like that the Lincoln TC brought them back. I wonder if Lincoln uses an alarm. It's probably only worth it with the gold plated ones.

I guess you'll never see a hood ornament on a Lexus or an Acura because traditionally luxury cars got them. Someone could probably make it a private business to make and sell these things?(alarms)

You're right, the glue probably won't hold it when I check it tomorrow.

DopeStar 156
05-02-05, 12:07 PM
Hood ornaments are awesome. They pretty much make the car in certain ways. Lincolns and Cadillacs need them, period.

powerglide
05-02-05, 02:55 PM
Hood ornaments are awesome. They pretty much make the car in certain ways. Lincolns and Cadillacs need them, period.


Don't forget Rolls Royce (but not Bentley)!

Ralph
05-02-05, 04:33 PM
Well the Crazy Glue didn't hold and I'm glad now because if it was "Solid" some one could have just broke it off. I'm glad I didn't mess it up, and it looks too awsome to take off now and I'm tired of saving it for the next owner. I WANT to see it! :)

powerglide
05-02-05, 04:55 PM
Yeah, figures.....its worth the risk.

Got to use it while you can!

Ralph
05-02-05, 05:22 PM
I like this guy's hood ornament!

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/661146

Ralph
05-02-05, 05:39 PM
OK, just phoned the Caddy dealership again and the parts guy said the gold plated hood ornaments are discontinued but they are in stock. PRICE for a gold one $370.00 Cdn!!!!!

Silver $78.20!!!

I can't believe the price for a gold one! :rolleyes2

DopeStar 156
05-02-05, 06:03 PM
My upholstry guy said he could get me an entire gold package for the price of the silver!

Ralph
05-02-05, 06:40 PM
My upholstry guy said he could get me an entire gold package for the price of the silver!

I would DEFINATELY take advantage of that because they will be hard to find in the future! Unless you already have all gold emblems...

Ranger
05-02-05, 10:19 PM
I'm not sure that crazy glue's gonna help much......if they're gonna steal it, that's probably not gonna stop em.
When he said crazy glue I thought he meant crazy gluing a razor blase to it.

Ranger
05-02-05, 10:20 PM
OK, just phoned the Caddy dealership again and the parts guy said the gold plated hood ornaments are discontinued but they are in stock. PRICE for a gold one $370.00 Cdn!!!!!

Silver $78.20!!!

I can't believe the price for a gold one! :rolleyes2
I think it would be cheaper to have the silver one gold plated.

Ralph
05-02-05, 11:07 PM
I think it would be cheaper to have the silver one gold plated.

AND it would look better then when I spray painted the silver one to look gold! :suspense: Don't worry, I used paint thinner and removed it after a year. It didn't look too bad. :hide:

If I had $370 to blow I would get an extra one but I wonder how much plating would cost? Where do you go, a jewellery place?

upstate
05-02-05, 11:26 PM
Guys, guys, stop it. Any city has people that have machines that they go to body shops or dealerships where they do gold plating. Used to be they could only gold plate metal now they can gold plate plastic in 23K plating with the item on your car. I've watched them do it. I bet you could get your silver hood ornament done for $40.00. Not sure about that but I have paid those prices in the past. If you can't find someone to do that let me know I'll have you mail a chrome one to me and have it done here. Check it out.

addison_ii
05-02-05, 11:34 PM
AND it would look better then when I spray painted the silver one to look gold! :suspense: Don't worry, I used paint thinner and removed it after a year. It didn't look too bad. :hide:

If I had $370 to blow I would get an extra one but I wonder how much plating would cost? Where do you go, a jewellery place?

I had thought about spray painting my Caddy Emblem on my Keychain back silver. But, I didn't think it would look right.
As far as plating goes, there should be a place in your town that specializes in custom plating jobs. There's a couple in my town that do it but I think the prices are steep. I know one guy that got his mirrors, an interior piece and the windows sill under his back window (on a 1985 Grand Prix) for $400. they did a good job too.

Ralph
05-02-05, 11:37 PM
there should be a place in your town that specializes in custom plating jobs.

I'm sure there is. Thanks for the info guys. I never thought about an autobody place.

I know the rear emblems on my car are gold plated and plastic.

Ranger
05-02-05, 11:40 PM
Pick up a phone book and look up "plating" or "metal finishing" or somthing on that order. I'd bet you could get it done pretty damn cheap.

DopeStar 156
05-03-05, 12:20 AM
I would DEFINATELY take advantage of that because they will be hard to find in the future! Unless you already have all gold emblems...
I think I will take him up on that. Even if I don't put it on, I'll just hang onto it incase I change my mind.

DaveSmed
05-04-05, 12:24 AM
Damn, knew I should have saved the alarm off that coupe. Didn't know they were that hard to find.

SeanHarrington
05-04-05, 05:21 AM
My 93 SDV has the ornament alarm. The old people I bought it from said they had 2 ornaments stolen, and had it hooked up at the dealer with the third ornament.

It sounded really loud and good back in '96, but now it sounds like a sick cow. I guess the contacts are not contacting well anymore.

GuidosCaddy
05-10-05, 02:58 PM
forget the alarm...
A retracting hood ornament, how cool is that...

Has anyone done it or know how it could be done?

Ralph
05-10-05, 07:50 PM
I've still got the gold one on and it might be pretty hard for someone to steal it even with wire cutters, etc. If you twist or bend the ornament backwards you can BARELY see the retaining spring to be able to get the "snippers" in there to get it. I wonder if someone twisted it around enough it might just break off at the spring?

N0DIH
05-10-05, 09:15 PM
I was thinking a 200v AC generator under the hood connected to the hood ornament, when they grab it, the screams of thier voices will be the best alarm yet....

To install it, all you have to do is....

I want to put the gold plated hood ornament back on my car this summer but I've always been concerned that it might get stolen. I know that when Dad bought this car new, he mentioned something about it having an alarm with the horn but he supposedly told the dealer not to bother hooking it up because the car came with the chrome ornament and he said he would install the gold himself. Since I've had this car I haven't used the gold.

Was there some sort of alarm for these because there are no wires or anything that I can see?

If true, how difficult would it be to rig it up?

Does anyone have an alarm for their hood ornament?

Ralph
05-11-05, 06:44 AM
I was thinking a 200v AC generator under the hood connected to the hood ornament, when they grab it, the screams of thier voices will be the best alarm yet....

To install it, all you have to do is....

Can you say "LAWSUIT?" :shhh: :)

geofjones9
05-12-05, 09:01 AM
Bought mine used, had aftermarket alarm on it. Chintzy install, definately not factory, original dealer didn't put it on.

powerglide
05-12-05, 06:09 PM
forget the alarm...
A retracting hood ornament, how cool is that...

Has anyone done it or know how it could be done?

Step 1-buy a used rolls

Step 2-.......

Ralph
05-15-05, 07:28 PM
Got some pics of how it looks FINALLY...