: Anyone else can't stand the new BMWs?



berkin
04-06-05, 12:26 AM
Check out the trunk lines and the lines from that start at the bottom of the rear fenders.

The second car is a Kia Rio which first came out as a 2001 model.

http://www.theraceforum.com/images/forum/2915-54-1.jpg

http://www.theraceforum.com/images/forum/2915-54-2.jpg

What was BMW thinking when they signed off on this interior?!

BMW calls this trim, "aluminum cube."

http://members.cox.net/e90/AMS/DSC02456.JPG

The woman on the left is an Australian, known as Dame Edna.

http://www.theraceforum.com/images/forum/2915-36-1.jpg

Here is a gorgeous second generation M5. Who would guess this thing has 340 hp unlike the new M5 with its pathetic side vents.

http://www.e34s.de/Bilder/am2004/Saturday/DSC_1374.JPG

Here is an 850CSi. It was BMW's big, fast, luxurious coupe for the mid 90s.

http://members.roadfly.com/79k304x4/850CSiblue.jpg

What was BMW thinking when they signed off on the trunk of the 6 series? The red coupe is the new M6.

http://members.roadfly.org/bm75204/645TrunkUp.jpg


http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3041213.002/1006big.jpg

The BMW Z4 looks like a smashed toy car with all of those lines and angles. This green is a factory BMW color which is called "Urban Green." They no longer offer it for good reason.
http://www.porsche.co.za/preowned/other/photos/Z4%20Urban%20Green.jpg

Take a look at the "refreshed" 7 series.
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/slide/geneva2005/3240.jpg

berkin
04-06-05, 12:28 AM
The BMW X3 isn't made at a BMW factory. It is made by a Magna Steyr in Austria. The X3 comes from the factory with nasty, black plastic bumpers.

http://www.autoarola.fi/autot/ZKG761.JPG

berkin
04-06-05, 12:38 AM
Car:
2005 BMW 730iL

Description:
Faulty wiring caused overheating and engine fire

Location:
United Arab Emirates

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/exotics/745_120050206_003.shtml

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/exotics/745_120050206_003.jpg

illumina
04-06-05, 12:50 AM
I can't stand ANY Bimmer because my "X" ran off with some ass-hat that drives a 325I :nono:

Ralph
04-06-05, 12:52 AM
I'm not a fan, and my aunt has a 735il but I don't mind the styling of the new 5 series, or the 6.

Stoneage_Caddy
04-06-05, 12:55 AM
the only "bangle beemer" i like is the 5 series , but ive always been a fan of the 5 ..the rest of them really blow in the styleing dept ....

adam_mcd
04-06-05, 01:04 AM
i love the new 6's, but you're right. when i first saw the 'new' 5 series, i thought 'omg a saturn'. but it does look like a rio from that shot also. than i go 'well at least they wont F up the 3 series!' WRONG. the new 7 series looks like crap. honestly, i didnt hear anybody bitch when BMW was just releasing their cars with minimal-to-none exterior changes. not saying i hate bmw, (first choice of dream car: m3 or m5), just chris bangle has ruined BMWs prestige.

http://www.edmunds.com/media/buyingguides/05/veh350/2005.bmw.3series.350.jpg

VS

http://bmw.carclub.ru/pictures/news/1111-1.jpg

Stoneage_Caddy
04-06-05, 01:11 AM
tho mechanicly the new 3 is by far the best there ever has been , same could be said for the rest of the line , but how they have done the outside and inside really blows ...and then there is I drive ....should be swapped out for "Yes I would like to Drive the car"...

These are supposed to be the "ultimate driving machines" ..why do we need all that crap ?

the simplistic nature of the old "2002" is gone forver

caddeville
04-06-05, 02:07 AM
I like only like the 80's 7 series and 6 series, my dad owned a 1985 bmw 745i twin turbo back in europe when i was 5, and a 1988 bmw m6. both of them were 5 speed. The old europien bimmers have much more power that american ones, and also look better with cleaner bumpers. The 745 was VVVEEERRRYY fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we also had one here in BC canada about 6 years ago. A 1983 bmw 733i 5 spd. The 745i twin turbo I think is probably faster than a new northstar. But the new bimmers just don't fit my category, they look too alien.

davesdeville
04-06-05, 03:14 AM
I never really liked BMWs but their styling on the new ones are going downhill. What's the differance between a BMW and a porcupine?

danbuc
04-06-05, 03:18 AM
I'm not a fan of the new BMW's at all. My mom had a 1998 M3 Conv. which was really nice, but it had some problems. My dad also had an old 1600 with an engine out of a 2002 (the 1600 engine blew up on the Throgs Neck Bridge, may have been GWB I don;t remember).

I think if I was going to buy a BMW, I'd probably buy a later model year 850Ci. You can get them now, for about 18-25k with relatively low mileage, and in mint condition. Those car's were about $100,000 new. That's a pretty good deal these days. I always did like the styling of the 8 series. The last two generation M5's were nice too.

Jesda
04-06-05, 03:45 AM
If you see him, kick him in the nuts:
http://panick.free.fr/portraits%20designers/chris_bangle.jpg

Stoneage_Caddy
04-06-05, 12:30 PM
I never really liked BMWs but their styling on the new ones are going downhill. What's the differance between a BMW and a porcupine?
The Plicks are on the inside of a beemer !!!

Whats the diffrence between a 330ci Convertble and a porcupine ?

None !!!

90Brougham350
04-06-05, 01:19 PM
IMHO, BMWs are: overengineered, cold, and uninviting. I don't like BMW interiors, period. Aluminum cube = just plain offensive. BMWs are also: fast, sporty, fun to drive (to those who enjoy a powerband that STARTS at 3500 rpm), sleek, and respected. BMW has always enjoyed a favorable position in the mind of the average consumer. But then again, BMW also has i-drive. And frankly, the biggest thing that gets me about BMW is the people who drive them. Now before we start a flame war, a very good friend of mine drives a 2001 X5. However, he's 22, and his father just payed cash for it to give to him. His father is very wealthy, and just payed cash for a 645i as well. I'm not saying anything like BMW drivers are *****s (yes, we all know the joke), but I'm saying there's a very certain type of driver who drives a BMW. I don't know how to describe it, but I think many of you know what I mean.

Brian

Stoneage_Caddy
04-06-05, 01:30 PM
IMHO, BMWs are: overengineered, cold, and uninviting. I don't like BMW interiors, period. Aluminum cube = just plain offensive. BMWs are also: fast, sporty, fun to drive (to those who enjoy a powerband that STARTS at 3500 rpm), sleek, and respected. BMW has always enjoyed a favorable position in the mind of the average consumer. But then again, BMW also has i-drive. And frankly, the biggest thing that gets me about BMW is the people who drive them. Now before we start a flame war, a very good friend of mine drives a 2001 X5. However, he's 22, and his father just payed cash for it to give to him. His father is very wealthy, and just payed cash for a 645i as well. I'm not saying anything like BMW drivers are *****s (yes, we all know the joke), but I'm saying there's a very certain type of driver who drives a BMW. I don't know how to describe it, but I think many of you know what I mean.

Brian

I understand what your saying , ive seen the people driving them and they dont even have enough talent in there pinky finger let alone there whole body to use the car to its potnetial .....

There truely a well balanced fun machine ...but those of us that can drive them to there potential cannot and will not buy one ....to us thats money beatter spent on something that isnt so common ...Like a nice used Porsche or a vette that requires a little more attention at the limit than a BMW ....

powerglide
04-06-05, 03:25 PM
I gotta say the new 5-series bimmers are not that bad. Not a big fan of the interior though (I think the competitor E-class benzo's do a better job on the interior design)

The previous model was amazing, IMHO. I had to own one. See pics of my previous car : 2001 525i M-Sport

Loved it but my wife not a fan of the harsh ride. Pluse I missed Caddies alot, hence my current Deville.

Blackout
04-06-05, 05:20 PM
Sounds like someone isn't a fan of BMW's. But I like the new looks of the cars. The new M5 I'm not too sure about but I am sure it will grow on me. But I'm glad they have revamped the interior's. They were looking bland and the same as they did in the early 90's. German's have always had boring interior's and I'm glad to see that they are trying to change that around. But if someone came up to me and offered me a top of the line STS and a top of the line 5 Series then the 5 Series would win hands down. I would say to look in your own backyard at some of the lines.....edge's of the new Cadillac's. I'm not a big fan of this edged off crap that Caddy is doing with their cars and the interior's of the new Caddy's isn't impressing me either compared to a BMW.

Adam
04-06-05, 05:23 PM
i just dont like bmw's.

danbuc
04-07-05, 01:57 AM
People who drive Audi's are the same way. Very snooby, and inconsiderate of other people on the road. Reminds me of thia one time I went out driving here in West Chester, PA about two weeks before school started. I was with my dad at the time, and we were just driving around, seeing what was in the area. Well, when we got onto the local highway here (202), it was a 2 lane highway. Everybody was in the right lane going about 65, so I decided to merge into the left lane a go a little faster. By the time I had moved into the left lane I was going roughly 80mph, when I noticed this car screeming down the highway a few hundred feet behind me. I look to my right for a spilt second, and managed to swerve back into the right lane, just missing two other cars. Much to my suprise (well, not really after I realized what car it was), was an Audi RS6 flying down the highway in the left lane doing what looked to be at least 140mph. By the time I got back into the left lane, the f**ker was already a few miles down the road, where I could no longer see him. It's a**hole's like that, who really piss me off. Not only did he not brake when he came up behind me (never saw the front end drop), but he could have killed abotu 20 or so people on that road. It's only two lanes, so there's isn't nearly enough room to drive that fat on this road. Plus, it was at abouy 12:00 in the afternoon on a Saturday. :annoyed:

powerglide
04-07-05, 03:21 AM
People who drive Audi's are the same way. Very snooby, and inconsiderate of other people on the road. ....... :annoyed:


Interesting point.....I think the car affects the way I drive. When I used to drive that BMW, I drove it hard to enjoy its handling and performance capabilities. (resulted in a bunch of expensive speeding tickets) Same goes for the Z28's I've owned. (both wrecked) These cars aren't enjoyable just cruising slowly, so I end up pushing it to unsafe/stupid limits.

The caddies and lincolns I've owned were most enjoyable when driven smooth, just cruising. (in fact not fun at all carving up curves at high speeds) My driving habits adjusted to its style. No speeding tickets or accidents in years.

Funny how the car affects my personality.

danbuc
04-07-05, 03:39 AM
You make an excellent point on the type of car affecting one's personality, and driving habits. I do see alot of Audi owners driving really slowly in the fast lane as well. This goes for BMW's too. It's almost as if there two types of a**hole's that drive these cars. There are the ones who buy the outrageously fast ones, and drive like maniacs, cutting peopel off left and right all over the road. The there are the the one who buy the lower end, slower models, and drive them 10mph under the speed limit in the fast, just slow eough so that you can't pass them. Then they give you the finger when you flash them to pass.

I'll never forget the time I had some f**ker in an A6 flash me with his high beams, which were also HID's. It was the middle of the day, nice and sunny outside, and I was still completely blinded. I moved over into the next lane, and the driver in the A6 accelerated like he was goign to pass me, only he didn't. He just pulled up next to me, and sat there, drive the asme spped I was. Needless to say, I rolled down my window, made sure I got his attention, and promply gave him the finger. I then proceeded to floor the gas, and leave him in the dust.

I also noticed, that the a**holes, so to speak, usually tend to only drive newer models. I guess what I mean to say is, that I rarely ever see somebody weaving through traffic at 100mph, driving a late 80's Audi or BMW.

90Brougham350
04-07-05, 11:12 AM
Well, I suppose it could be said that the car is somewhat a reflection of the driver's personality. I think this is true about a lot of us with our Caddies. I mentioned my friend with the 2001 X5 eariler. He tells everyone his philosophy on driving is to drive a vehicle to its full capability whenever possible, after all, why else would they build it to go fast? We argue all the time about it, usually after I've been riding in the back seat and getting sick from it. Driving a 90 Brougham, why in the world would I be hot-rodding everywhere? My car was not built for speed, it was built to ride like a friggin' dream, and that it does. He can keep his X5. The interior is ugly anyways (gee, any surprise there?).

Brian

berkin
04-07-05, 11:51 PM
Car:
2005 BMW 730iL

Description:
Faulty wiring caused overheating and engine fire

Location:
United Arab Emirates

Check the link
http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/exotics/745_120050206_003.shtml

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/exotics/745_120050206_003.jpg
http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/exotics/745_20050206_002.jpg

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/exotics/745_320050206_001.jpg

Playdrv4me
04-08-05, 12:10 AM
Man, gas MUST be ridiculous over there... I mean 730??? Driving anything over the size of a CTS with a 3.0L engine is absolutely nuts. That car must be slower than molasses.

danbuc
04-08-05, 12:26 AM
...usually after I've been riding in the back seat and getting sick from it.......The interior is ugly anyways (gee, any surprise there?).

Yeah those seats are like sitting on a park bench. My friend borrowed his Dad's 4.6 X5. He regularly drive a Jeep Liberty, like a lunatic I might add, so you can just imagine how he drove the X5. Those seat are so hard and flat, each time he took a turn at 50 (middle of town I might add), I went flying into the window.

The interior is horrible. It's just boring. To be quite honest, I'd rather drive a Ford Escape than that thing. Such a waste of money. :nono:

powerglide
04-08-05, 12:57 AM
Man, gas MUST be ridiculous over there... I mean 730??? Driving anything over the size of a CTS with a 3.0L engine is absolutely nuts. That car must be slower than molasses.


I thought gas was dirt cheap over there....?

Never even knew they had a 730 iL (long wheelbase) if it is 3.0 litre, youre right thats gotta be sloooooww

adam_mcd
04-08-05, 01:18 AM
your wife thought a 5 series bmw had a harsh ride? what a picky bitch. shoulda kept the 5 series but love conquers blah blah blah..

powerglide
04-08-05, 01:25 AM
your wife thought a 5 series bmw had a harsh ride? what a picky bitch. shoulda kept the 5 series but love conquers blah blah blah..


hey hey thats my wife you're talkin about.....

She was right though, it had an extremely stiff ride (it was a M-Sport Package), same suspension and wheels as the M5. Going over highway expansion joints the CD would skip everytime. Totally different ride height and handling characterstics than a regular 5 series

Kept the wife, sold the car!

adam_mcd
04-08-05, 01:37 AM
yea i know the m sports handle a bit stiffer, but its better than alot of cars out there.
sorry, when i mean 'what a picky bitch' i mean shes very picky.

RobertCTS
04-08-05, 11:30 AM
Car:
2005 BMW 730iL

Description:
Faulty wiring caused overheating and engine fire

Location:
United Arab Emirates

Check the link
http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/exotics/745_120050206_003.shtml

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/exotics/745_120050206_003.jpg
http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/exotics/745_20050206_002.jpg

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/exotics/745_320050206_001.jpg



Yes, I love the smell of burning imports in the morning!!:thumbsup: