: I'm officially out of FOSS...



BeelzeBob
03-23-05, 09:02 AM
The Fleetwood Owners Secret Society. :p My 1995 Fleetwood Brougham is being shipped to Finland.. I'm going to miss that car.. It rode nicer than any car I've owned.. However, the smoothness of the Northstar, the power, the handling, technology extras and "new" look of my DTS make me happy. My "wants" change drastically from time to time. I went from various sports cars (Z28s, Trans Ams, etc) to a Eldorado Touring Coupe, then a Vette, then a Fleetwood Brougham, and now a DeVille DTS.. It seems I get tired of the sporty feeling and than aim at a luxurious driving experience.. Then, vise verse.. So here I am with my "sporty" Cadillac.. I can only hope that Cadillac will have something similar to the Fleetwood Brougham when I trade-up to something newer later on...

JAKE91
03-23-05, 09:10 AM
Sal, How Is The Low End Torque On The De Ville? Does It Ride Smoother Than The Fleetwood?

How Did The Guy In Finland Find Your Fleetwood?

HotRodSaint
03-23-05, 12:53 PM
Don't forget to turn in your FoSS membership card and your secret decoder ring.

You can keep the autographed picture of Miss FoSS (Supafly) on your wall though! :yup:

vanaisa
03-23-05, 02:03 PM
If you miss your car sooo much, i can always send pictures of it to you - Finland is only 50 miles away from our country :yup:

Ralph
03-23-05, 04:12 PM
The DTS should ride smooth enough and it's got the power you are used to. :)

caddydaddy
03-23-05, 04:13 PM
How Did The Guy In Finland Find Your Fleetwood?

I would guess eBay! My EFI 1976 Fleetwood Brougham was sold to a guy in Germany, and last I knew he still loves it! :bouncy:

See it here:

http://members.tripod.com/~CadillacMan/1976FleetwoodBrougham

davesdeville
03-23-05, 04:15 PM
I think the low end torque of a northstar is seemingly nonexistant when you drive one of these heavy cars - then again I've been conditioned by 500 ci and 490ft.lbs.@2400 rpm.

N0DIH
03-23-05, 04:39 PM
I think the low end torque of a northstar is seemingly nonexistant when you drive one of these heavy cars - then again I've been conditioned by 500 ci and 490ft.lbs.@2400 rpm.

I thought the 500 was a 550 to 575 lb ft torque. Well, for 1970 at least...

As the Olds was 510, and Buick was 520, and Pontiac 500 lb ft all with the 455's.

Tom

caddydaddy
03-23-05, 04:44 PM
I thought the 500 was a 550 to 575 lb ft torque. Well, for 1970 at least...

As the Olds was 510, and Buick was 520, and Pontiac 500 lb ft all with the 455's.

Tom

By the mid 70's with emmisions gear and the new "net" power ratings, the power figures dropped a lot! The 76' 500 made 190 HP and 360 lbs-ft. Not too impressive for such a huge engine!

davesdeville
03-23-05, 05:30 PM
The ratings were all screwed up before 72 when SAE net ratings were published. The 70 500 supposedly made 400hp and 550ft.lbs, which sounds great but was in essence a lie. These were much more accurate to compare to other engines of the time. In reality, a 10:1 500 is about 320hp and 500ft.lbs, an 8:1 is about 300hp and 490ft.lbs.

BeelzeBob
03-23-05, 05:47 PM
Being that I have the DTS, it rides much harsher than the Fleetwood.. The regular DeVille and DHS ride is very similar to the Fleetwood..

The guy who actually gave me the cash found my car on either cars.com or autotrader.com...

The DTS feels more powerful at any RPM.

N0DIH
03-23-05, 05:53 PM
Being that I have the DTS, it rides much harsher than the Fleetwood.. The regular DeVille and DHS ride is very similar to the Fleetwood..

The guy who actually gave me the cash found my car on either cars.com or autotrader.com...

The DTS feels more powerful at any RPM.

I guess I need to go drive one, my 94 V4P car is one of the best throttle response cars I have driven, close even to my 1980 Trans AM with a 70 455 Pontiac in it. And that one was a STRONG car. It won't beat it, but it sure has some awesome throttle response, far better than my 91 Deville, which is very good.

Tom

IndianaSpank
03-25-05, 12:03 AM
Dear Sal,

I hope you got the body weight of the Fleet in trade for Finlandia vodka. The dollar being what it is these days, I hear liquid assets are the hot commodity. Thanks for the insights and organisational feedback. I gotta ask; Angelo Anthony Quagliarillo- can you give us a short history?


All the best-

IndianaSpank