Ok, we've been getting more and more pre '80s cars on this site lately, So I think there should be a classic caddy section on this site, breaking it off from everything below the '80s cadillacs. We'd be able to get help quicker and better, could post our pictures of only the classic ones, and wouldn't have to go around the whole site looking for some little information. Who agrees we need a classic caddy section?

Ok, we've been getting more and more pre '80s cars on this site lately, So I think there should be a classic caddy section on this site, breaking it off from everything below the '80s cadillacs. We'd be able to get help quicker and better, could post our pictures of only the classic ones, and wouldn't have to go around the whole site looking for some little information. Who agrees we need a classic caddy section?

I don't even own a classic caddy and i agree 100% it will make it a lot easier and faster for searches not just for you guys but for all

I agree, we should definately have a section for the Classics. I think it should be 1981 and earlier Caddys, so it includes the 368s but no HT4100s.

Good idea...... Ill move this to the suggestion area......!

Okay. Thanks for the PM to point out this thread, Jeremy.. Well.. What if we had a "Classic" section (subforum) for each model? This way:

#1. We don't have a WHOLE new set of forums for each individual model.

#2. We don't throw ALL the models into ONE forum.

#3. The classics are still in the correct sections - just seperated from the rest of the threads...

Let me know what you think... And I'd love to hear more from more people...

I think just one Classics forum would work well. Even though it would be all the classic models thrown together, that's not bad cause there were only 2 for the most part: Eldorado and DeVille/Fleetwood. And people who know about one will almost surely know about the other.. ehh it just makes more sense to me that way.

I agree with that......... More subforums=more confusion....... :bonkers:

One classic caddy section will do just fine, for now anyway...!

Well, let's get more input on that then...

Yeah, I mean the subforums wouldn't be too good because us classic guys would like to hang out all in one place just to talk about them, not having to jump though each of the different model of car subforums. One place would do it for me with no confusion because we don't have nearly as many people with classics as we do with new cars. I know I don't like to visit the model sections anymore because it doesn't pertain to me, just new cars. I used to go into the deville section, but I got sick of not having anyone with old devilles so I don't go in there anymore.

Any new updates, Sal?

Well, let's get more input on that then...I vote for a single new "Classic Cadillac" Section in the "Vehicle Discussion" Section.

I haven't thought it through completely, but I think it might also be good idea if we could organize the Photopost Gallery into 3 main sections - say "Past Cadillacs", "Present Cadillacs", and "Future Cadillacs" and divide the current subsections between them.

And how about a section for us non cadillac owners!!!!!

Heh don't you already have a whole forum about Infinity?

Anyway, yeah Sandman's idea sounds cool too.

You have my vote for the classic caddy section.

Im tired of venturing into the pushrod forum, and instead of finding discussion about the 4.1, 4.5, 4.9, I find all this crap about 472's, 500's, and 425's which many present owners here just simply do not how to deal with correctly.

It's getting to the point where it's cluttering up the Pushrod forum and could use it's own forum!

Hey watch yo self foo. The pushrod section does say "Performance discussions relating to pre-Northstar Cadillacs" under it, does it not? Yeah that's right. So a classic section would seperate the 500 series and the newer stuff like 4.9s etc, but until that happens you're stuck with it.

Okay so I guess we're in favor of simply having a Classic Cadillac Discussion section in the Vehicle Discussion area?

We're going to need to do a lot of MOVING of threads into this new section when it happens...

10-4..... Ill help out however I can....!

Id vote for a Classic section even though I don't own one :D

But then there should also be guidelines asto what are classics. To me 1980 and newer isn't because they're all the same as far as rear wheel drive ones go. Except for the engine. The first of the downsized Eldorado and Seville isn't either because it ran through the early 80s, except again for the engine. So maybe there would have to be something for these owners like anything with the car can go in the regular forums but questions about the older drivetrain could go in the classic section. It's things like this that would make it confusing.

1980 and below goto classic caddy section......

I think it should be 1981 and earlier Caddys, so it includes the 368s but no HT4100s.
... yeah 81 and back so anyone with an 81 368 is included since it's so similar to 68-79 engines...

Well now I question why 1980 and 1981? I can understand the engine thing like I said in my last post but how does slapping those cars in the classic category help people when the cars themselves aren't classics?

Only the cars with those engines...... Those engines are the same (relatively speaking, moreso than the HT4100 and up) as the classic caddys..... So we should put those cars with them....... Plus, they were designed about the same as the older ones, also.......

Sal!!! Governor Arnold endorses the creation of the classic caddy section! Listen:

http://members.rogers.com/tjrobbins/sal.mp3

Only the cars with those engines...... Those engines are the same (relatively speaking, moreso than the HT4100 and up) as the classic caddys..... So we should put those cars with them....... Plus, they were designed about the same as the older ones, also.......

So... what you're saying then is that since the body style of my 1991 was designed in that time as long as it's not an engine question I can hop onboard with a Classic forum and start asking away with any other question I have right? :D

he means look wise. Everyone is welcome to post, but the cadillacs we will specify on are all the ones under 1981. If you need help with an newer model than 1981, you should use the other sections to ask in, not the classic one.

He means newer.. but yeah.

My original point still stands. And that is that you can't just generalize what cars a classic section would be for by what engine it has. Earlier 80s Eldorados and the humback Sevilles and RWD Fleetwoods and Broughams are all older styles. The people who are going to know them best are the people who'd be in the classic section. And don't forget the 4.1L was dropped for older GM small blocks that are more related to the older engines then to the new ones. Who's going to be able to answer the technical questions about a 307 with a carburetor or a 305/350 with a throttle body best? I don't think it's going to be the people who're driving around with 4.9s and Northstars...

If a split happens between FWD and RWD would there still really even be a need for a Classic forum? Most posts seem to be for FWD cars and what's left is the older style ones anyway :confused:

It's just the cars under the year 1981, so it includes all older cars from 70s, 60s, what 50s we have. It's just a split off to hang out with other people that have older cars rather than having all the people talking about their new cars with fuel injected and such.

Very good idea. I'm for it.

So... is it a go or no?

That's what I'm waiting to hear.

As am I........

Sal????

Just waiting on sal......

Would this Classic section simply be for all pre-1981 Cadillacs? If so, then it wouldn't be too difficult to keep that going right. But if it were for all cars XX years and older, then every year we'd need to move all the threads that fall into that category - which would be quite cumbersome to say the least..

Secondly, are any moderators willing to go through the board to move pre-1981 related threads into this new Classic area?

I don't think we'll actually call it "Classic" anyway.. Probably just something in regards to pre-1981..

Pre 1981 and that's it. A 1982 car will not change into a 81 car so the forum won't either. I still think it should be called the Classic section, but the name doesn't make too much differance as long as it's there.

"Classic Cadillacs (1 viewing)
Forum for discussion regarding Cadillac models made before 1982."

Or something like that..

The problem with naming it "Classic Cadillacs" is that when 1982 becomes classic, it wont be in there... The section will only be for 1981 and older. So someone looking for a "Classic" 1982 wont find it..

What I meant by the "changing" thing was this.. If we WERE to have a "Classic" section - and have all the Classic Cadillacs in there, we'd have to weed through all the posts to MOVE all the "first year classics" into the Classic section...

I still don't like this classic forum idea for the reasons in my previous posts. It's going to knock people with cars newer then 1981 into the regular category even though the people who know the cars best are going to be sitting in the older section.

Having too many forums is just as bad as not having enough and I still think that if a FWD/RWD split happened it would put off the need for a classic forum and more people would be able to get the answers they're looking for.

Im not sure what I want anymore..... :bonkers:

I think if we took out ALL the different models, and made an FWD, RWD, and Pre-81, that would do it!!!!

I like my original idea of all pre 81 nothing else. The reason FWD and RWD wouldn't be good is because having a classic, I just want to get away from all the new higher tech things and all the northstar talk. I'd rather hang out in a forum with a bunch of guys/girls that have classics so we can drool over each others cars. No offence, but I don't drool over new caddys when I see them, but if I see a good classic, it makes me drool and I can't keep my eyes off it.

I do, however, agree with Sal on the name. Every year it would suck to have to switch over all the posts. The name should be "1981 and under Cadillacs" or something like that.

I'm sure the moderators wont have a problem with moving all the posts, because there aren't as many of them as there are about newer caddys.

But PLEASE keep us updated. I'm getting anxious to see all the classics. :bighead: :bonkers: :cool: :halo: :worship: :bouncy:

All these pre 1981 arguements are the same. It's always 1981 because of the engine. Now this look thing pops up. ALL RWDs from 1977 to 1992 have the exact same body EXCEPT for the change in 1980 and the one in 1990 which was basically trim and headlights. Same with all Sevilles from 1980 to 1985 and all Eldorados from 1979 to 1985. ALL these cars are based on older ones, and all of these cars were also available before 1981. So how can you seperate them by look? None of them are related at all to any of the smaller FWDs. Like I said before if someone who owns one of these cars has a question- who's going to be able to answer it. It's not going to be someone with one of the cars you're wanting to dump them in with so now you've cut out 11 years worth of cars.

An engine isn't the only thing that makes up a car, yet that's what this classic section idea keeps getting based on. The ones from around 1980 and 1981 had fuel injection too and are as advanced as 1990-1992s are. Even more in the tech department because sometime after the mid 80s they won't even figure out gas milage for you anymore.

So what it really comes down to is that a section for older cars will help a few people who don't want anything at all to do with newer models and will make this site pointless to about 11 years worth of cars and owners. :rolleyes:

All these pre 1981 arguements are the same. It's always 1981 because of the engine. Now this look thing pops up. ALL RWDs from 1977 to 1992 have the exact same body EXCEPT for the change in 1980 and the one in 1990 which was basically trim and headlights. Same with all Sevilles from 1980 to 1985 and all Eldorados from 1979 to 1985. ALL these cars are based on older ones, and all of these cars were also available before 1981. So how can you seperate them by look? None of them are related at all to any of the smaller FWDs. Like I said before if someone who owns one of these cars has a question- who's going to be able to answer it. It's not going to be someone with one of the cars you're wanting to dump them in with so now you've cut out 11 years worth of cars.

An engine isn't the only thing that makes up a car, yet that's what this classic section idea keeps getting based on. The ones from around 1980 and 1981 had fuel injection too and are as advanced as 1990-1992s are. Morson in the tech department because sometime after the mid 80s they won't even figure out gas milage for you anymore.

So what it really comes down to is that a section for older cars will help a few people who don't want anything at all to do with newer models and will make this site pointless to about 11 years worth of cars and owners. :rolleyes:

We're seperating them by year not looks. If it'd make you happy we can cut it off before fuel injection, would that make you happy? Besides, why would it make it pointless if we split off the older from the new, the 82 and up have all the other forums that exist. They can get their questions answered there. There are barily anyone with older cars on here as it is so why not just break it off so we can have our own little spot to look at the other classics that we're more interested in. Everyone else is welcome to come in and talk and look at whatever we're posting, but if they need help with their car, just post it in the regular caddy sections.

Alright fine what the ****ever. don't have a forum, have aforum who gives.

IMO...... It shouldnt be this hard.... just make the forum and see what happens......

And Sal...... Ill help move over some of the old posts!!!!!

If 4 or 5 of you want a Classic area - why don't I just make a subforum called "The Classic Club" and you guys post pictures and threads about your cars? I'm having trouble with the idea of seperating everything for a few people who don't want to be a part of everything else.

The main reason for it was to make it easier for us to ask questions and keep updated with the older classic cars. You know what I mean? Since we've got two '78s, a '68, a '70, and a few more, but I can't remember right now. It's mostly easier to organize pictures, maybe if we want to throw a car show (probably not) haha, talk about our old caddies, you know? The subforum would be great though, that's what I had in mind the whole time. Main reason for this is say you go into the regular deville section, and it says help with something, and it looks like it'd be for an older car, but it's for a '90s caddy, so you can't tell the difference between the posts. Sorry for the confusion, Sal. Thanks though if you'll make the subforum for us.

I like Sal's idea :D

Okay. More input needed then.. I think this would work out nicely because everyone who finds this site that owns a classic Cadillac will look there right away. As the forum grows, maybe it can become its own main forum...

IMO "Classic Club" is OK - it is anyones own decision, is his/her car classic or not.
But it helps a LOT to find threads talking about older cars/problems etc.
You got my vote!

A classic caddy section.. SWEET.. you got my vote:D SAL, I think engine size is the key here more than anything. All the caddy's from 68 to 79 had big blocks in 'em except for the seville and it had a 350 in it (I think) AS for the early 80's I dono i'm not that familiar with 'em. I know the 425,472 and 500's where all big blocks and classic's.;) Anyway hope this helps some..