: Drove the XTS Vsport today - decent trade-up if your warranty is expiring



bobs-sts-v
08-09-13, 06:33 PM
Stopped by dealer for oil change. While waiting, GM stops by to chat. Says he just got an XTS-V in today. So we went for a drive. :cool: My impressions:
Decent size - slightly larger than the STS-V. Front seat room is great. Rear seat legroom is deceptive, since the rear seats have a LOT of depth. Might be an issue for really tall folks only if the person in the front seat pushes it ALL the way back.
Voice activated controls are AMAZING. No more stupid, cryptic, staccato commands you have to remember - just talk. It recognizes 12,000,000 words and phrases. Understood myself and Paul (GM) who has a pretty thick Brittish accent. No problems. Switched back and forth between us with none of the "pardon" or "no speech detected" crap we are all used to.
No more buttons - touch screen and touch controls. Very sleek. Lots of device support (up to 10 devices). So phone, iPod, bluetooth devices, SIM card support, USB jacks, everything.
3.6L Twin Turbo with very quick and responsive paddle shifting. Almost NO turbo lag. Auto trans, but "sport" mode with manual paddle shifting is there and responds much quicker than our tip-tronic trans. Close to what I have in the AMG. Magnetic ride control. Automatic adaptive all-wheel drive - meaning that if it detects wheel slip, it jumps automatically into all-wheel drive; automatically reverts to rear-wheel above 30-35mph. Something I could really use here in Chicago in the winter! Not as much power as our V, but very quick. Power is there if you need it.
Interior is nearly on par with ours - certainly much better than the CTS junk of old. Decent trunk space which can easily hold 3-4 sets of golf clubs, and has fold-down split rear seats if you really need more room.
Not as quick as the Tesla I drove last week, but certainly nicer inside than any Tesla. And significantly cheaper than the $100K you would pay for a performance-series Tesla.
Loaded, out the door cost of the XTS-V was $70,280.
I shot pictures of outside the car and the sticker. Not much to see under the hood with the panels all in place. I can try and upload if anyone wants to see them.

Bob

ChurchSTSV
08-09-13, 08:00 PM
So was this a Vseries or a V? I read the XTS-Vseries has the 410 twin tarbo.

TimmyC
08-09-13, 10:49 PM
The XTS Vsport is the one with the turbo V6. That chassis is front wheel drive with all wheel as an option (mandatory on the Vsport). It is not likely to revert to rear wheel drive when no wheel slip is detected.

Guy.Seminerio
08-09-13, 10:53 PM
Yes it's the v sport.

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They're not making a full fledged v for the xts. And when I rented the xts I have to agree about the voice recognition. Excellent. Ill never get used to that horrible side view. Hood is way too short. Front wheels are practically under you. Look at what Mazda did with the new Mazda 6. Got the wheels a little further out front on a fwd car. Something to do with tilting the engine I think? Best looking family fwd sedan if you ask me.

PGA2B
08-09-13, 11:55 PM
:postpics:

Guy.Seminerio
08-10-13, 03:01 AM
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130624/CARNEWS/130629918

One of those pics is a side shot. You'll see what I'm talking about.

youknooow
08-10-13, 08:12 AM
O goodness even V series owners are recognizing the V sport as a V series. Did the vehicle feature the neutered V badge? I also thought this car's all wheel drive was front wheel biased...

Guy.Seminerio
08-10-13, 09:33 AM
Yep front wheel biased

bobs-sts-v
08-10-13, 10:49 AM
Yes, it has the neutered badge, so it is a V-series car. While I personally don't care for the overall shape of the car, and my son said the front end looks silly, I was primarily commenting on the overall size of the car. Similar inside to our STS-V with quite a few more electronic creature comforts than we have. Didn't really notice the "short hood" when driving, but wasn't really paying attention to that. I have pics, just have to get them up here.

Bob

youknooow
08-10-13, 01:00 PM
I have seen F, M, and AMG sports and I and i think the general public never considered them to be in the same pedigree realm as the models they are inspired by.

Cadillac V sport models are respectable performers but they are not V series Cadillacs; there is a distinguishable difference between V sport and V series Cadillacs and I expect my statement to be supported when the next gen CTS-V drops.

RippyPartsDept
08-10-13, 01:49 PM
V-Series
http://stwot.motortrend.com/files/2010/01/27770326.jpeg
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VSport
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/quangty/2014-cadillac-cts_100423108_l_zpsfe8df722.jpg

bobs-sts-v
08-10-13, 01:53 PM
Wish I could wait for the new version of the V, but not sure I will. I may push past the end of my extended warranty, but if even one unexpected item pops up that is going to cost me considerable $, then I will probably bail on my V. I love the car and have enjoyed driving it these past 8 years, but I won't let it start to Jackson & Benjamin me do death (as opposed to nickel & dime :helpless: ). I guess I will have to keep my options open and fingers crossed.

Bob

bobs-sts-v
08-10-13, 01:59 PM
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youknooow
08-10-13, 04:27 PM
I was impressed with the base model XTS (handling and room) so I'm sure the platinum VSPORT will deliver on that car's purpose. My biggest reservation would be the dated 6 speed auto and the front biased AWD.

carter's_sts
08-10-13, 09:08 PM
I never understand that financial argument. If you want a new car go for it, but don't kid yourself that you're saving money by spending a ton of it on a new car. That's a lot of repairs worth.

It's almost always cheaper to keep your existing car and pay for repairs, unless you plan to buy a really cheap car.

wake
08-11-13, 06:02 PM
Maybe I need to see one in person. From the pics the shape makes me think of a dressed up last generation Chevy Malibu.

PNBLWZD
08-12-13, 12:38 AM
I like the interior of the xts, but never bothered driving one because of the V6. Been anticipating this v sport, so might be time to go try one out.

Cadillac Cust Svc
08-12-13, 10:48 AM
Stopped by dealer for oil change. While waiting, GM stops by to chat. Says he just got an XTS-V in today. So we went for a drive. :cool: My impressions:
Decent size - slightly larger than the STS-V. Front seat room is great. Rear seat legroom is deceptive, since the rear seats have a LOT of depth. Might be an issue for really tall folks only if the person in the front seat pushes it ALL the way back.
Voice activated controls are AMAZING. No more stupid, cryptic, staccato commands you have to remember - just talk. It recognizes 12,000,000 words and phrases. Understood myself and Paul (GM) who has a pretty thick Brittish accent. No problems. Switched back and forth between us with none of the "pardon" or "no speech detected" crap we are all used to.
No more buttons - touch screen and touch controls. Very sleek. Lots of device support (up to 10 devices). So phone, iPod, bluetooth devices, SIM card support, USB jacks, everything.
3.6L Twin Turbo with very quick and responsive paddle shifting. Almost NO turbo lag. Auto trans, but "sport" mode with manual paddle shifting is there and responds much quicker than our tip-tronic trans. Close to what I have in the AMG. Magnetic ride control. Automatic adaptive all-wheel drive - meaning that if it detects wheel slip, it jumps automatically into all-wheel drive; automatically reverts to rear-wheel above 30-35mph. Something I could really use here in Chicago in the winter! Not as much power as our V, but very quick. Power is there if you need it.
Interior is nearly on par with ours - certainly much better than the CTS junk of old. Decent trunk space which can easily hold 3-4 sets of golf clubs, and has fold-down split rear seats if you really need more room.
Not as quick as the Tesla I drove last week, but certainly nicer inside than any Tesla. And significantly cheaper than the $100K you would pay for a performance-series Tesla.
Loaded, out the door cost of the XTS-V was $70,280.
I shot pictures of outside the car and the sticker. Not much to see under the hood with the panels all in place. I can try and upload if anyone wants to see them.

Bob

Hello Bob,

Thanks for sharing this with everyone. It seems like you had a positive experience while test driving the XTS-V. I am glad you have enjoyed your STS-V the past 8 years. As you saw with your recent dealership visit, there are newer models out that I am sure will accommodate you when needed in the near future. Don't hesitate to reach out to us if you ever have any questions.

Regards,

Laura M.
Cadillac Customer Care

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I like the interior of the xts, but never bothered driving one because of the V6. Been anticipating this v sport, so might be time to go try one out.

Hello PNBLWZD,

Many people comment on enjoying the interior of the XTS. I recommend you go out and test drive one yourself; you might be surprised! Please contact us if concerns or questions arise. We can be contacted via private message or by Email at socialmedia@gm.com.

Sincerely,

Laura M.
Cadillac Customer Care

CMNTMXR57
08-12-13, 01:04 PM
No V8 and rwd, no interest. (yes, I get that they're not reverting an XTS to rwd).

The replacement for the STS will be a CTS-V.

RippyPartsDept
08-12-13, 01:23 PM
Laura,

please do not add to the confusion by calling this an XTS-V ... it is a Vsport

there is a big difference and people are getting confused between the V-series and the Vsport

we don't need to help the confusion along... plus it doesn't make you look good when it comes to product knowledge

thanks,
chris

bobs-sts-v
08-13-13, 10:58 AM
Rippy,
tried to change the name of the thread to "VSport"
hope it worked.

PNBLWZD
08-13-13, 11:25 AM
No V8 and rwd, no interest. (yes, I get that they're not reverting an XTS to rwd).

The replacement for the STS will be a CTS-V.

That's what I did about a month ago, but will still check it out.

RippyPartsDept
08-13-13, 12:02 PM
Rippy,
tried to change the name of the thread to "VSport"
hope it worked.

Only works for the post you're currently making

a mod will have to change the name of the thread

probably not going to happen :helpless:

GizmoQ
08-15-13, 08:54 PM
Only works for the post you're currently making

a mod will have to change the name of the thread

probably not going to happen :helpless:

Gotcha Covered!

bobs-sts-v
08-17-13, 09:31 AM
gotcha covered!

thanks !

rkj4243
08-17-13, 10:01 AM
The Cadillac XTS, Buick LaCrosse, and new Chevrolet Impala all share the same vehicle platform, Epsilon and are FWD based designs.
The next large Cadillac model that is "upcoming" will be based on the new GM Omega platform and is RWD based.
It is larger than current Alpha (ATS and new CTS) and more along the lines of the next generation Zeta (Camaro).
The Cadillac XTS as it currently is should only be in production a few years, until the new platforms are released.

Guy.Seminerio
08-17-13, 02:58 PM
Actually the next gen camaro is going to be on alpha, which is the platform that underpins the ats and 2014+ cts.

hiltonny
08-19-13, 12:53 PM
http://jalopnik.com/cadillacs-elmiraj-concept-is-the-500-horsepower-coupe-1152124751

Guy.Seminerio
08-19-13, 09:41 PM
Yeah just saw this on the ctsv forum. Beautiful car. I like how ours has the chrome only on the bottom of the side windows. They should do that with this one to clean it up. Really a beauty though.