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JDemoney
08-04-13, 08:27 PM
Hey guys/gals...my name is James. I live in Box Elder, SD and am stationed at Ellsworth AFB. I'm not a Caddy guy at all. Not a GM fan at all. However, my great-grandmother has given me her 2002 DeVille with 38k miles. She has macular degeneration and broke her hip and femur last summer and at nearly 93 she has come to terms with the fact that she can't drive anymore. She, on the other hand, is a Caddy enthusiast and made me promise to take the absolute best care of her beloved Caddy. On Aug 25 I will be flying out to AZ to pick the car up and drive it back here. I am plenty mechanically inclined but I hope to rely on you more seasoned Cadillac owners to assist me in making sure I fulfill my great-grandmother's request. I look forward to discussions with y'all and hope to become an upstanding member of your online community!

orconn
08-04-13, 08:39 PM
Welcome, James, you came to the right place!

93DevilleUSMC
08-04-13, 08:42 PM
Welcome! Trust me, that first Deville always makes you a fan!

JDemoney
08-04-13, 08:47 PM
Welcome, James, you came to the right place!

Thanks! I'm already learning a lot just browsing the DeVille forum. Once I get the car and detail it I'll throw up a couple photos. I'm not even sure if its a base model, DHS, or DTS. Its white with oatmeal interior. I remember that from the last time I rode in it in '05.

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Welcome! Trust me, that first Deville always makes you a fan!

I've always liked Cadillacs, especially the CTS-V with the LS motor. Just never wanted to buy one. I'm a Mustang guy by trade. Not like an "I like Mustangs" guy but a "lets build this and put some go fast goodies on it" Mustang guy.

Are you Active Duty?

93DevilleUSMC
08-04-13, 08:59 PM
Thanks! I'm already learning a lot just browsing the DeVille forum. Once I get the car and detail it I'll throw up a couple photos. I'm not even sure if its a base model, DHS, or DTS. Its white with oatmeal interior. I remember that from the last time I rode in it in '05.

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I've always liked Cadillacs, especially the CTS-V with the LS motor. Just never wanted to buy one. I'm a Mustang guy by trade. Not like an "I like Mustangs" guy but a "lets build this and put some go fast goodies on it" Mustang guy.

Are you Active Duty?

I am just a medically discharged boot camp broken hip case that bought the Deville a month after getting home at the Ft. Gillem lemon lot. I joined this site a short time later and picked he first name my brain spat out.

Tell me about some of your Mustang builds?

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Also, if yours has the standing hood ornament, it's a base. If it has the grille ornament with no standing hood ornament, it's a DHS or DTS. Does it not have the correct trunk badge?

Submariner409
08-04-13, 09:17 PM
Welcome Aboard !!! :highfive:

You'll NEED a real GM/Helm service manual - eBay or www.helminc.com (http://www.helminc.com). For instant gratification subscribe the car to www.alldatadiy.com (http://www.alldatadiy.com).

The engine takes exactly 7.5 quarts of 5W-30 oil with filter. Whatever type/brand floats your boat. Oil level should be here on the dipstick - <== ADD XXXXXXXXXX OPERATING RANGE ========oo======O

Oil level at the top X or at the "O" and the engine will get rid of it like a case of the bugs.

The transmission is a dry sump unit - NO FLUID on the dipstick with the engine off.

Read the owner's manual twice. Study the entire Cadillac Technical Archive way up ^^^ in the top black bar. read every sticky post at the top of every forum of interest - like the ones just above this thread. It's all timeless info. The Community tab, Albums. The red Seville - two albums, 6 pages of stuff for your engine.

Retired QMCM(SS)(DV) - 25 years submarines. Navigator, "operations" specialist.

JDemoney
08-04-13, 09:20 PM
I am just a medically discharged boot camp broken hip case that bought the Deville a month after getting home at the Ft. Gillem lemon lot. I joined this site a short time later and picked he first name my brain spat out.

Tell me about some of your Mustang builds?

Bummer!

I've had a lot of Mustangs...

I had a '94 Cobra triple black with a 408 and KB 2.6, C6, and spooled 9".

Had a 1990 hatch with a 347 that was about 12:1 with a five speed that ran 6.80 all day.

Had an '03 Mach1 with just long tubes, full exhaust, JLT CAI and 4.30s.

The last one I had was a '98 Cobra with a .030 over block, forged internals, Crower blower cams, ProCharger D1SC with a 3.9" upper and 7.5" overdrive crank. Tube front end, T-56 w/Liberty Gear 28-spline input shaft, 33 spline 8.8. Made 11PSI at 5k and 21 at 7500 :). She was fun but when I moved to SD I never drove it so I sold it.

I've had some daily driver cars and some not so. But right now my wife, who is prior active duty, is using her Post 9/11 to finish her BSN so stuff like this is on hold until she's done with that and we're in a little more car friendly climate

I'm not sure which front emblem it has. It's been eight years since I saw it last. My grandma has the car right now but I'm not going to bother her with going to do stuff for me. I'll just find out for myself when I get there. I do know it DOES NOT have the faux convertible top..

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Welcome Aboard !!! :highfive:

You'll NEED a real GM/Helm service manual - eBay or www.helminc.com. For instant gratification subscribe the car to www.alldatadiy.com.

The engine takes exactly 7.5 quarts of 5W-30 oil with filter. Whatever type/brand floats your boat. Oil level should be here on the dipstick - <== ADD XXXXXXXXXX OPERATING RANGE ========oo======O

The transmission is a dry sump unit - NO FLUID on the dipstick with the engine off.

Read the owner's manual twice. Study the entire Cadillac Technical Archive way up ^^^ in the top black bar. read every sticky post at the top of every forum of interest - like the ones just above this thread. it's all timeless info.

Retired QMCM(SS)(DV) - 25 years submarines. Navigator, "operations" specialist.

Thanks for the invaluable advice! I'll be checking all that out for sure.

As far as my specialty goes, I'm in aircraft maintenance. Been in 10 years tomorrow and am an E-6. From '03-'10 I was working C-130s at Dyess AFB. Flying on those as a flying crew chief was the best time of my career. Now I work on B-1s.

Ranger
08-04-13, 09:24 PM
:welcome:

JDemoney
08-04-13, 09:26 PM
:welcome:

Thanks!

93DevilleUSMC
08-05-13, 01:57 AM
Bones heal, skin regrows, etc, etc; Suck it up, buttercup, they say.

Sounds like you've mostly built drag race and track Mustangs! Let me know what kind of Deville it ends up being, and make sure you give us pictures of the road trip, not just the car! (Hint: food, hotels, and odd shit are all points of interest).



Bummer!

I've had a lot of Mustangs...

I had a '94 Cobra triple black with a 408 and KB 2.6, C6, and spooled 9".

Had a 1990 hatch with a 347 that was about 12:1 with a five speed that ran 6.80 all day.

Had an '03 Mach1 with just long tubes, full exhaust, JLT CAI and 4.30s.

The last one I had was a '98 Cobra with a .030 over block, forged internals, Crower blower cams, ProCharger D1SC with a 3.9" upper and 7.5" overdrive crank. Tube front end, T-56 w/Liberty Gear 28-spline input shaft, 33 spline 8.8. Made 11PSI at 5k and 21 at 7500 :). She was fun but when I moved to SD I never drove it so I sold it.

I've had some daily driver cars and some not so. But right now my wife, who is prior active duty, is using her Post 9/11 to finish her BSN so stuff like this is on hold until she's done with that and we're in a little more car friendly climate

I'm not sure which front emblem it has. It's been eight years since I saw it last. My grandma has the car right now but I'm not going to bother her with going to do stuff for me. I'll just find out for myself when I get there. I do know it DOES NOT have the faux convertible top..

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Thanks for the invaluable advice! I'll be checking all that out for sure.

As far as my specialty goes, I'm in aircraft maintenance. Been in 10 years tomorrow and am an E-6. From '03-'10 I was working C-130s at Dyess AFB. Flying on those as a flying crew chief was the best time of my career. Now I work on B-1s.

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Also, we had a guy on here named NightWolf who was a civilian maintenance guy for C-130s at Warner Robins.

JDemoney
08-05-13, 08:13 AM
Bones heal, skin regrows, etc, etc; Suck it up, buttercup, they say.

Sounds like you've mostly built drag race and track Mustangs! Let me know what kind of Deville it ends up being, and make sure you give us pictures of the road trip, not just the car! (Hint: food, hotels, and odd shit are all points of interest).



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Also, we had a guy on here named NightWolf who was a civilian maintenance guy for C-130s at Warner Robins.

All of my cars were street/strip minus the '94...it only had a five gallon fuel cell. The '98 I actually sold to a guy I knew in Texas who flew up here and drove it back ... Got 24 MPG average the entire trip. Not bad for a 600hp 4.6 ;)

And I'll log my trip. It's a 1300 mile drive so there will be plenty to see. Robins sucks BTW. I used to go TDY there to pick our planes that just got PDM done. They do great work there but the city is awful.

93DevilleUSMC
08-05-13, 10:25 AM
All of my cars were street/strip minus the '94...it only had a five gallon fuel cell. The '98 I actually sold to a guy I knew in Texas who flew up here and drove it back ... Got 24 MPG average the entire trip. Not bad for a 600hp 4.6 ;)

And I'll log my trip. It's a 1300 mile drive so there will be plenty to see. Robins sucks BTW. I used to go TDY there to pick our planes that just got PDM done. They do great work there but the city is awful.

Damn! Good mileage for anything with that kind of power! And I agree with you on Warner Robins. I loved the base when I went there as a CAP cadet, but the town itself has it's own kind of nasty patina. I used to date a Security Forces girl from WR. Screwed up beyond screwed up in the head, but great in...other areas :D. She's married now :(

JDemoney
08-05-13, 11:10 AM
Damn! Good mileage for anything with that kind of power! And I agree with you on Warner Robins. I loved the base when I went there as a CAP cadet, but the town itself has it's own kind of nasty patina. I used to date a Security Forces girl from WR. Screwed up beyond screwed up in the head, but great in...other areas :D. She's married now :(

I remember the first time I went TDY there. I flew commercial in to Atlanta, got my rental car, then drove to WR. From the time we got just outside of the Atlanta city limits, I kept seeing signs for this place called Strippers in WR on Watson. Made the mistake of going there. One of the single worst experiences of my entire life.

Hoosier Daddy
08-05-13, 12:06 PM
I kept seeing signs for this place called Strippers in WR. Made the mistake of going there.
Yeah, me too. When I realized my wife would see it on my CC statement, I had to refinish our front door for plausible deniability.

JDemoney
08-05-13, 05:34 PM
Yeah, me too. When I realized my wife would see it on my CC statement, I had to refinish our front door for plausible deniability.

Now THAT is funny stuff. I wasn't married at that time so I could afford to make mistakes like going to Strippers.

77CDV
08-05-13, 06:28 PM
:welcome: The Deville is a great, comfortable long distance cruiser, and if it's a DTS, the power may surprise you.

JDemoney
08-05-13, 09:09 PM
So it DOES have a cloth top on it. Is it a DHS? I can't find online which models offered a cloth top...

93DevilleUSMC
08-05-13, 09:41 PM
WR Strippers...the only thing bombed by more Airmen than the Middle East. :D

JDemoney
08-05-13, 09:43 PM
WR Strippers...the only thing bombed by more Airmen than the Middle East. :D

Can you help me out? Which models offered the cloth top? It turns out my memory isn't as good as I though.

93DevilleUSMC
08-05-13, 11:16 PM
Can you help me out? Which models offered the cloth top? It turns out my memory isn't as good as I though.

I think the Deville and DHS did. I base that on having never seen a DTS with the cloth top.

orconn
08-05-13, 11:47 PM
I don't think either model came from the factory with a vinyl top; they were all dealer applied, I think.

MoistCabbage
08-05-13, 11:59 PM
Yup, all after market. The last Model years with factory roof treatments were:

Seville/ Eldorado - '91
Deville/Sixty Special - '93
Fleetwood - '96

Faith76
08-06-13, 12:13 AM
Welcome! My grandma helped me buy my first Cadillac.

Hoosier Daddy
08-06-13, 12:20 AM
Welcome! My grandma helped me buy my first Cadillac.
Are you saying it skips a generation?

Faith76
08-06-13, 12:52 AM
I don't think so. She never had one. She does love mine though!

Are you saying it skips a generation?

Hoosier Daddy
08-06-13, 01:00 AM
I don't think so. She never had one. She does love mine though!
Good tradition to start.

70eldo
08-06-13, 04:12 AM
Welcome!
You will notice driving the DeVille is WAY DIFFERENT than your Mustangs. It can't be more different than that. I hope you'll enjoy the relaxed driving :D

BTW, I thought the B-1 was taken out of service and only Australia is forced to keep flying it (as they cannot find a fitting replacement). So they still fly that Aardvark (= South-African Dutch for "ground pig" in direct translation) in the US as well?

JDemoney
08-06-13, 09:17 AM
Welcome!
You will notice driving the DeVille is WAY DIFFERENT than your Mustangs. It can't be more different than that. I hope you'll enjoy the relaxed driving :D

BTW, I thought the B-1 was taken out of service and only Australia is forced to keep flying it (as they cannot find a fitting replacement). So they still fly that Aardvark (= South-African Dutch for "ground pig" in direct translation) in the US as well?

No other country in the world flies B-1s. In the 80s when the B-1A was being developed President Carter put the kibosh on the whole program. When Reagan was elected President he brought the program back and the B-1B was put in to service. The only other country in the world that has something similar is Russia and it's called the Blackjack...looks strikingly like a B-1 and functions a lot the same as a B-1, but it isn't a B-1. Russia can't even afford to fly it or maintain it. The Aardvark was the F-111. The only similarity between the F-111 and B-1 is both aircraft have the ability to sweep the wings aft for supersonic flight.

Maintaining these aircraft is a challenge. They weren't designed to be used like we're currently using them. They were designed to fly in to Russia, drop nukes, and be ditched; a "one-time use", if you will. Thanks to the STAR Treaty, our fleet is not currently nuke capable so we fly with conventional weapons.

(This can all be found on Wikipedia or other military aviation websites, so none of this information is sensitive or a violation of OPSEC)

RippyPartsDept
08-06-13, 09:36 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/B1s.jpg/800px-B1s.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/B-1_wings_swept.jpg/800px-B-1_wings_swept.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/B-1A_Orthographic.PNG/500px-B-1A_Orthographic.PNG

Submariner409
08-06-13, 10:04 AM
Going back in time ............... a little B-24 humor from the Confederate Air Force.

JDemoney
08-06-13, 10:40 AM
Hillllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarious!

93DevilleUSMC
08-06-13, 09:20 PM
B1-B Crew: Blows shit up. Laughs. Looks for more shit to blow up.

JDemoney
08-06-13, 09:24 PM
B1-B Crew: Blows shit up. Laughs. Looks for more shit to blow up.

A year ago maybe. Two years ago ago definitely. Today, not so much.

70eldo
08-07-13, 04:52 AM
No other country in the world flies B-1s. In the 80s when the B-1A was being developed President Carter put the kibosh on the whole program. When Reagan was elected President he brought the program back and the B-1B was put in to service. The only other country in the world that has something similar is Russia and it's called the Blackjack...looks strikingly like a B-1 and functions a lot the same as a B-1, but it isn't a B-1. Russia can't even afford to fly it or maintain it. The Aardvark was the F-111. The only similarity between the F-111 and B-1 is both aircraft have the ability to sweep the wings aft for supersonic flight.

Maintaining these aircraft is a challenge. They weren't designed to be used like we're currently using them. They were designed to fly in to Russia, drop nukes, and be ditched; a "one-time use", if you will. Thanks to the STAR Treaty, our fleet is not currently nuke capable so we fly with conventional weapons.

(This can all be found on Wikipedia or other military aviation websites, so none of this information is sensitive or a violation of OPSEC)

Oh what a shameful mixup from my side! :thepan:
Thanks for clearing me up!

Hoosier Daddy
08-07-13, 08:21 AM
Going back in time ............... a little B-24 humor from the Confederate Air Force.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachments/community-lounge-introductions-general-discussion/133401d1375797860-new-member-b-24-moon.jpg


He better hope there isn't a bird strike or he'll be spitting up feathers for a week.

JDemoney
08-07-13, 08:47 AM
Oh what a shameful mixup from my side! :thepan:
Thanks for clearing me up!

No worries! The F-111 was retired some time ago, but I would have to look up when. It was before my time (Aug 5, 2003 is when I came in). It was a pretty revolutionary aircraft for it's time with the swept-wing design. To that point in time it was the only jet in the world with a moveable wing surface if I'm not mistaken.

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He better hope there isn't a bird strike or he'll be spitting up feathers for a week.

Thinking of bird strikes makes me sick to my stomach. One never forgets the smell of dead, semi-cooked bird...especially not one that hits a jet that's moving at 600kts at low altitude and bounces along the belly of the plane from the nose to the tail.

70eldo
08-14-13, 03:58 AM
No worries! The F-111 was retired some time ago, but I would have to look up when. It was before my time (Aug 5, 2003 is when I came in). It was a pretty revolutionary aircraft for it's time with the swept-wing design. To that point in time it was the only jet in the world with a moveable wing surface if I'm not mistaken.


And with an ejection cockpit :thumbsup:
But wasn't the Tomcat of the same era?



Thinking of bird strikes makes me sick to my stomach. One never forgets the smell of dead, semi-cooked bird...especially not one that hits a jet that's moving at 600kts at low altitude and bounces along the belly of the plane from the nose to the tail.

Lots of pictures to be found online

http://www.skybrary.aero/images/thumb/C130BS2.jpeg/300px-C130BS2.jpeg


I almost had a bird stike in AZ doing flight training. Flying a propeller A/C with endless visible feels like sailing. But when an eagle shoots past your cockpit window it just scares the sht out of you and you realize 170 kn is not slow...