: Removing drop kit



BEarle
07-15-13, 07:46 PM
I think I'm going to take out my McGaughys drop kit. I can't take the ride no more. I was trying to decide either go back to the 22s and keep the drop or keep the 24s and raise it back up and I decided to keep the 24s. It sucks because it looks so dam good with the drop but with the choppy ride I can't stand it anymore now the truck is starting to squeak and rattle and it drives really screwed up. My gf was even saying the other day what's wrong with the truck!

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Does the drop affect the ball joints or control arms at all? Or is that springs?

firstlac27
07-15-13, 08:11 PM
Anytime you put big rims on a car or truck you are killing the suspension. Pretty sure your suspension is shot, you have to change some suspension parts in maybe take off the drop, Unless you like paying for suspension parts in labor, You can still ride good with just 20s

BEarle
07-15-13, 09:16 PM
Yeah I had friends of mine that swore by the spindle kit but it ain't cutting it for me. I just replaced the shocks not too long ago so they are new. I had the 24s on it before I lowered it and it drove nice.

36dbldz
07-18-13, 04:35 PM
Yeah I had friends of mine that swore by the spindle kit but it ain't cutting it for me. I just replaced the shocks not too long ago so they are new. I had the 24s on it before I lowered it and it drove nice.

What's size tire did you use?

emay
07-20-13, 01:17 PM
I got mine lower than most on my kelderman/accuair setup. On the 22's it's perfect at 32" front 32.5" rear at fenders. On my 24's I feel a bit more had to bump to 33.75" front and 34.25" rear at fenders to net same ride feel. Enough that I never swapped back to the 24's after winter. Couple shots of her on the 2's.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5455/9329415046_dd13cf118d_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5449/9326611751_467c120b43_b.jpg

BEarle
07-20-13, 05:43 PM
That's sick! That's why I don't want to put my stock suspension back because it looks so dam good. Is there anything I should worry about? Like control arms or ball joints? I have drop spindles with springs in the back. My friend told me that the eibach sway bars are giving me the stiffer ride.

soulsea
07-20-13, 06:01 PM
I would take off the sway bars and put the stock ones back and see if the ride improves before taking off the drop. It seems logical that a part meant to reduce roll would stiffen the ride by consequence, although I'm not knowledgable enough to say for sure.

I actually had a 2/3 drop on 24s on my old Tahoe and she rode like a pig so took it off. There is something called the 'free travel mod' which involves cutting off the bump stop brackets with a sawzall that is supposed to restore the ride quality after the drop, but I'm not sure this applies to autoride trucks like ours. Maybe someone else knows for sure.

MrHolland
07-20-13, 11:11 PM
Sway bars will make the ride more harsh. That's where I'd begin.

emay
07-21-13, 10:52 AM
In order to sit where mine is I first trimmed the bump stops, air out it still sat on the nubs. So I cut out the entire bracket (free travel mod Soulsea mentioned). That freed up plenty of room to get full suspension travel.

I'm also running a set of hotchkis sways, I got them from Soulsea. I feel no adverse affects in ride stiffness with them on. Body roll is far less in cornering with the combination of the bars and lower center of gravity than when it's aired up that I can attest to.

BEarle
07-21-13, 04:05 PM
I think that it's my wheels to tell you the truth.

soulsea
07-21-13, 04:21 PM
I dunno B ... when I removed my 2/3 drop kit from my Tahoe and went back to stock height the ride quality reverted 95% back to stock through that action alone, taking the 24s off and replacing them with 22s restored the last 5% of the ride. I'd be willing to wager that going down 2" on wheel size alone will not measurably improve your ride quality. It's easy to test out tho if you have a friend close by with a stock Esky willing to swap wheels with you for a few hours.

Otherwise, revert back to the stock sways, and if you're still not happy with the ride you can decide if you want to cut out you bump stop brackets or remove the drop altogether. But I feel ya, like I said just like you I loved the way she looked but I hated the ride quality:

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s444/soulsea1/HyHoe/file_zps6c79c717.jpg

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s444/soulsea1/HyHoe/d1700a3a.jpg

BEarle
07-21-13, 05:33 PM
I dunno B ... when I removed my 2/3 drop kit from my Tahoe and went back to stock height the ride quality reverted 95% back to stock through that action alone, taking the 24s off and replacing them with 22s restored the last 5% of the ride. I'd be willing to wager that going down 2" on wheel size alone will not measurably improve your ride quality. It's easy to test out tho if you have a friend close by with a stock Esky willing to swap wheels with you for a few hours.

Otherwise, revert back to the stock sways, and if you're still not happy with the ride you can decide if you want to cut out you bump stop brackets or remove the drop altogether. But I feel ya, like I said just like you I loved the way she looked but I hated the ride quality:



Thanks for you help buddy, I might think its my wheels. I have the 24 oem style wheels, I think they are made poorly because the last few months I have noticed that the inside of the wheels are pitting and pealing badly. I think they are way to heavy for the car also.

My biggest concern of all is the safety of the truck and the drop kit. I get nervous on the high way because it drives really bad. It vibrates a lot and it kind of has a hard time excellerating like the wheels is weighing the car down you know. I had the 24s before the drop and it drove fine.

MoistCabbage
07-21-13, 05:40 PM
The wheels aren't too heavy for the truck, and aren't keeping it from accelerating, or causing vibration. Lowering springs=harsher ride quality and in some cases, accelerated wear on suspension and steering components.

BEarle
07-21-13, 05:44 PM
They are not springs tho, they are spindles. The reason why I went with the spindles because it doesn't wear on all the components etc. plus GM gave McGaughys a award for best aftermarket suspension or something like that. But I'm going to start by taking out the sway bars first and see what happens.

soulsea
07-21-13, 06:01 PM
A drop shouldn't make the truck vibrate if installed properly, and if you got an alignment after it was installed and are using the same wheels as before that didn't vibrate, then it's likely that the installation wasn't done properly. Have the shop double check it when they are swapping sway bars.

MoistCabbage
07-21-13, 06:13 PM
A vibration at speed is an out of balance rotating part.

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They are not springs tho, they are spindles. The reason why I went with the spindles because it doesn't wear on all the components etc. plus GM gave McGaughys a award for best aftermarket suspension or something like that. But I'm going to start by taking out the sway bars first and see what happens.I thought I saw springs mentioned earlier in the thread.

36dbldz
07-21-13, 06:41 PM
Isn't it spindles in front and springs in the rear? It seems most people are not feeling the ride with the drop

BEarle
07-21-13, 06:49 PM
I had it aligned twice since the drop. Yeah a lot of people are not liking the ride with the drop. I swore before that I wouldn't screw with the suspension but I had a friend that installed it on his escalade and swore by it so I tried it. The weird thing is, that it drove better with the 26s than the 24s which is odd.

silkjones
07-28-13, 04:47 PM
I purchased my truck with a drop and let me tell you my 95 mitsubishi has a better ride quality than my cadillac. I need to return it to stock. I'd rather ride high than to hit a bump and feel like my car is about to fall apart. What would I have to purchase to return it back to stock? I need to get that done this week.

soulsea
07-28-13, 10:03 PM
What would I have to purchase to return it back to stock? I need to get that done this week.

It depends what type of drop it is. If it's spindles up front and springs in the rear then you need the OEM front spindles, the OEM rear springs, bumpstops, and autoride links. If the front is dropped with springs then you need the OEM front springs instead of spindles.

This is just me guessing on the basis of the standard moderate drop kits by Belltech or Mcgaughys. More significant drops may have additional parts or the previous owner might have modified additional suspension components for this specific drop. Best way forward it to take it to a suspension shop or a shop that does these types of mods, have them look at it, and see what parts have actually been modified so you know what OEM parts you need.

silkjones
07-28-13, 10:11 PM
It depends what type of drop it is. If it's spindles up front and springs in the rear then you need the OEM front spindles, the OEM rear springs, bumpstops, and autoride links. If the front is dropped with springs then you need the OEM front springs instead of spindles.

This is just me guessing on the basis of the standard moderate drop kits by Belltech or Mcgaughys. More significant drops may have additional parts or the previous owner might have modified additional suspension components for this specific drop. Best way forward it to take it to a suspension shop or a shop that does these types of mods, have them look at it, and see what parts have actually been modified so you know what OEM parts you need.

Thanks a lot! Will go that route this week.

soulsea
07-28-13, 11:22 PM
You're very welcome ... hopefully the previous owner used a standard kit rather than a a bunch of mismatched ebay parts, it'll make it a lot easier to spot what needs to be put back to stock. If it's only springs, bumpstops, and autoride links it shouldn't be too expensive to get the OE parts, spindles are a little more expensive, both to buy and in terms of labor for a shop to swap them out.

rgb129
07-29-13, 08:27 AM
Are these problems on the 3/5 drop or the 2/3 or both? I really wanted to do the 2/3 drop on mine, but reading this thread makes me leary.

BEarle
07-30-13, 12:03 PM
I have a 2/3 drop. I'm going to start by putting the stock sway bars back in and see how it is after.

Does anyone run billstein shocks? Will I get a better ride if I install those.

soulsea
07-30-13, 12:18 PM
Don't you have magnetic ride?

I don't think you can just throw any shock under there.

BEarle
07-30-13, 12:56 PM
I'm not sure it's a 2010 premium

silkjones
08-22-13, 07:13 PM
I'm just getting a chance to take the car in...i'm actually taking it to the dealer because struts are covered by my aftermarket warranty. I'm so glad that I got the platinum warranty that covered all of those parts. I'll just pay my $250 ded and let them fix everything. My stabilitrak light came on, i need my suspension checked, i have a leaky sunroof, my windshield wipers sometime stop for some unknown reason, and my transmission is taking a while to catch when I put it in reverse. I will definitely report back on the ride quality once this drop is removed.