: Creative Steel 8.8 Kit Available-- Immediate Ship



MotorMounts
07-08-13, 06:24 PM
Hey Guys, Just had a guy bail out on an 8.8 kit that was ready to ship, we were just waiting for the final payment. The customer sold the car so now the kit is available for immediate shipment to someone else. The diff is an iron case with the OEM gear ratio 3.73 and has a Eaton Tru-Track carrier. The axles and drive shaft are also ready to ship, the axles have the upgraded outer CV's already installed which are stronger than the OEM CV's and don't require the greasy nasty job of swapping the OEM CV's on to the new axles (I'll never do that again), the drive shaft is a two piece unit or if you want to wait two weeks it can be substituted for the one piece aluminum version. Same price. The price is $5075 which includes shipping.
If you have questions, call me. 503-316-1811 Max

FuzzyLogic
07-08-13, 06:35 PM
Hey, have you guys ever considered doing a kit that allows us to purchase and install a normal TR6060 with its normal tail housing? Improved linkage...better transmission brace...parts commonality...potential shorter driveshaft for improved critical speed and better harmonics...that would probably be a huge seller.

MotorMounts
07-08-13, 07:18 PM
Hey, have you guys ever considered doing a kit that allows us to purchase and install a normal TR6060 with its normal tail housing? Improved linkage...better transmission brace...parts commonality...potential shorter driveshaft for improved critical speed and better harmonics...that would probably be a huge seller.

That would be an easy one, just need the length of the trans and if the flange is different those dimensions

FuzzyLogic
07-08-13, 07:47 PM
If I had that, I would have a TR6060 installed in my car and no need to purchase your kit. ;)

philistine
07-08-13, 09:09 PM
Hey Guys, Just had a guy bail out on an 8.8 kit that was ready to ship, we were just waiting for the final payment. The customer sold the car so now the kit is available for immediate shipment to someone else. The diff is an iron case with the OEM gear ratio 3.73 and has a Eaton Tru-Track carrier. The axles and drive shaft are also ready to ship, the axles have the upgraded outer CV's already installed which are stronger than the OEM CV's and don't require the greasy nasty job of swapping the OEM CV's on to the new axles (I'll never do that again), the drive shaft is a two piece unit or if you want to wait two weeks it can be substituted for the one piece aluminum version. Same price. The price is $5075 which includes shipping.
If you have questions, call me. 503-316-1811 Max

Mine!

Nice talking with you Max. I appreciate the time you take to discuss your product.

MotorMounts
07-08-13, 09:09 PM
SOLD, That baby is gone, history and/or unavailable

DavidBoren
07-08-13, 10:05 PM
Max,
We have talked on the phone about rebuilding my driveline with your flex discs and some various bushings you offer... can I just have you install one of those one-piece aluminum driveshafts? Are they available for the non-V CTS (LY7/5L40E)? And if so, how much does it cost?

MotorMounts
07-08-13, 10:37 PM
It can be done but the shafts for the 8.8 swap will have different ends and length. Bring the car down to Salem, we'll get some measurements, then get a quote for the shaft that will fit your car.

FuzzyLogic
07-08-13, 10:57 PM
Another question: any chance you'll offer a kit that's compatible with the G-Force 1000 HP axles?

Manofmetal01
07-09-13, 12:13 AM
Is $5075 the normal price or was it a deal given the circumstance?

MotorMounts
07-09-13, 10:58 AM
Another question: any chance you'll offer a kit that's compatible with the G-Force 1000 HP axles?

I don't see how that would be possible, the G-Force axles are designed to fit in a Getrag diff, that means no fitty in a 8.8 and even if the stubs could be swapped out the axles bars would probably/definitely be the wrong length. The 8.8 is physically larger than the Getrag, which means the axles need to be shorter to mate up with the wheel hubs.


Is $5075 the normal price or was it a deal given the circumstance?

$5075 for the complete kit with upgraded outer CV's and shipping is the normal price. The "deal" on this kit was that it was ready for shipping right away (straight away, if you're a Brit). In fact the crate is half done and later today we'll see what brown can do for us.

liqidvenom
07-12-13, 03:47 AM
making a kit to run a tr6060 would be great. many of us have a few miles on our t56 which tend to shift......well rather crappy.

RyRidesMotoX
07-12-13, 08:12 PM
making a kit to run a tr6060 would be great. many of us have a few miles on our t56 which tend to shift......well rather crappy.

Yea but a well built T56 can handle a lot of power. The big twin turbo vipers come to mind. Before the 6060 was out, they ran t56 transmissions. I mean how much power do you really want? Either way building for 1000+HP is going to be expensive but I think the vast majority of us are good with a t56 with fresh (and stronger) internals... Unless you are pisnuoff... Then nothing is safe. He could have a transmission made out of the cooled metal from the earth's core and still break it. Lol

I'm not a huge fan of "good enough" with cars but the t56 is good enough for me when it gets rebuilt with better parts. Plus some of that shifting has to do with the way the trans is mounted in the car.

FuzzyLogic
07-12-13, 08:58 PM
Our T56 can handle about 450 RWTQ before it grenades. The totally TR6060 starts at 600 ft-lbs, which is more than a built T56, but most common modifications push it into the 700-800 ft-lb range, which is totally outside the realm of possibility with the T56.

RyRidesMotoX
07-13-13, 01:48 AM
Our T56 can handle about 450 RWTQ before it grenades. The totally TR6060 starts at 600 ft-lbs, which is more than a built T56, but most common modifications push it into the 700-800 ft-lb range, which is totally outside the realm of possibility with the T56.

Well tick performance advertised their stage 2 t56 is good to 700rwtq. I agree that the 6060 is the better of the 2 transmissions in all areas. And for guys that need much more that is should be the weapon of choice. But the T56 isn't as bad as people think.

liqidvenom
07-13-13, 05:01 PM
Yea but a well built T56 can handle a lot of power. The big twin turbo vipers come to mind. Before the 6060 was out, they ran t56 transmissions. I mean how much power do you really want? Either way building for 1000+HP is going to be expensive but I think the vast majority of us are good with a t56 with fresh (and stronger) internals... Unless you are pisnuoff... Then nothing is safe. He could have a transmission made out of the cooled metal from the earth's core and still break it. Lol

I'm not a huge fan of "good enough" with cars but the t56 is good enough for me when it gets rebuilt with better parts. Plus some of that shifting has to do with the way the trans is mounted in the car.I am speaking in terms of shift quality. My work vehicle had a t6060 version in it and when i would drive that and then jump back into any t56 there was a honest difference.

if power was the main goal, then you just build the best one you like.

RyRidesMotoX
07-13-13, 10:57 PM
I am speaking in terms of shift quality. My work vehicle had a t6060 version in it and when i would drive that and then jump back into any t56 there was a honest difference.

if power was the main goal, then you just build the best one you like.

Yea the t56 doesn't have the best shifter feel... course that could be 10 year old bushings and stuff as part of that. It is one of the more difficult transmissions to make smooth shifts in that I have driven. And I have driven old top loader truck 4 speeds without using the clutch and stuff. the T56 takes a certain amount of finesse and a certain amount of sledge hammer to get from gear to gear

philistine
07-13-13, 11:06 PM
Yea the t56 doesn't have the best shifter feel... course that could be 10 year old bushings and stuff as part of that. It is one of the more difficult transmissions to make smooth shifts in that I have driven. And I have driven old top loader truck 4 speeds without using the clutch and stuff. the T56 takes a certain amount of finesse and a certain amount of sledge hammer to get from gear to gear

It's a $hitbox for shifting. When I drop my drivetrain for a new clutch and this CS 8.8 kit, I plan to replace the bushings. There's a lengthy thread on LS1tech stiffening the slop. Even my old Mustang shifted better except missing 3rd - at least I don't have that problem in the V. Every gear is a fight but I don't miss.

MotorMounts
07-14-13, 02:12 AM
Philistine, Your 8.8 kit shipped the day after you paid for it. I wish I had a tracking number here at home for ya....................ahhhhh crap false alarm, Kristie just told me that she sent you a tracking number. This was one of those times that it's cool to bring the secretary (wife) home with ya evenings and weekends.

liqidvenom
07-17-13, 07:09 PM
yeah this trans is great for heavy work, but it lacks the easy going, smooth nature of some other manuals i have driven.

Andringa
07-17-13, 10:26 PM
Normally I'd agree on the T56 being frustrating, but it's been in the upper 80s and 90s all week and the trans really loves these temps. I wish my transmission always felt this good.

I wonder if a thinner fluid would help us out. I currently have Amsoil in it.

RyRidesMotoX
07-17-13, 10:40 PM
Normally I'd agree on the T56 being frustrating, but it's been in the upper 80s and 90s all week and the trans really loves these temps. I wish my transmission always felt this good.

I wonder if a thinner fluid would help us out. I currently have Amsoil in it.

Your shifting might like thinner fluid but your bearings may run dry if it foams from being too thin. I still sear that it is probably the transmission mounting that sags over the course of 'x' years and then causes poor shift feel.

VincentT
07-18-13, 12:26 AM
Your shifting might like thinner fluid but your bearings may run dry if it foams from being too thin. I still sear that it is probably the transmission mounting that sags over the course of 'x' years and then causes poor shift feel.

Nah, I just replaced both MM's and put a trans insert in and it's still the same shifting feel for me.

Bewbzout
07-20-13, 01:33 PM
Dont know what some of you guys are smoking but the T56 has been proven to handle 800RWHP in AWD syclones and typhoons. Thats more torque than you will ever be able to put on it using a CTS-V. Unless you were to completely take out the rear subframe, straight axle the car and tub it with slicks.

Not saying the T6060 trans isnt better but for the cost of a T6060 and the cost to install it really puts you in the same range as these magnum T56's. Plus all that time you save you can relax and drink beer.

Oh and on a side note- most of you on here only have hopes and dreams of having the HP to tear a build T56 apart so dont kid yourself.

FuzzyLogic
07-20-13, 01:35 PM
Dont know what some of you guys are smoking but the T56 has been proven to handle 800RWHP in AWD syclones and typhoons. Thats more torque than you will ever be able to put on it using a CTS-V. Unless you were to completely take out the rear subframe, straight axle the car and tub it with slicks.

Not saying the T6060 trans isnt better but for the cost of a T6060 and the cost to install it really puts you in the same range as these magnum T56's. Plus all that time you save you can relax and drink beer.

Oh and on a side note- most of you on here only have hopes and dreams of having the HP to tear a build T56 apart so dont kid yourself.

The T56 that you're referring to has a different, stronger gear ratio and vastly different shafting than our T56. And guess what? Those upgrades are incompatible with our unique T56.

While you can build a 700 RWTQ T56 if you've got unlimited money, it's cheaper and more effective to buy a transmission that was designed to handle that much torque from the factory.

Bewbzout
07-21-13, 12:11 PM
http://www.rsgear.com/products/transmissions/tranzilla.aspx

Do you thing the T6060 just drops in? Tuning? Driveshaft? Shifter location in the floor? Converting all the plugs?

Dont forget that you will be lucky to find a stock T6060 unit for less then 1.8k:coffee:

FuzzyLogic
07-21-13, 01:44 PM
The Tranzilla costs $9000--more than double that of a T56 Magnum.

RyRidesMotoX
07-21-13, 02:38 PM
http://www.rsgear.com/products/transmissions/tranzilla.aspx

Do you thing the T6060 just drops in? Tuning? Driveshaft? Shifter location in the floor? Converting all the plugs?

Dont forget that you will be lucky to find a stock T6060 unit for less then 1.8k:coffee:

Wtf? How are you comparing a T6060 so a trans that cost more than some cars? Duuuuuude, the truth is, the T56 isn't that great. For my application its worth me rebuilding one for cheap, but if i was going huge power it would be new trans all the way

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The Tranzilla costs $9000--more than double that of a T56 Magnum.

More like triple... One can get a magnum for like 2800-3000 right? Or am I mistaken?

liqidvenom
07-21-13, 08:46 PM
it isnt just the strength, some people just dont like the shift quality of the t56. the t6060 just does that better in every aspect.

NickL84
07-26-13, 04:12 PM
I've driven cars with the T6060 and I love it, with that being said, the T56 in my old 03 felt tight and shifted
great. The car dyno'd just shy of 500rwhp and I beat the hell out of it, the transmission just took the beating and laughed. The
half shafts in the rear end are another story...